Conference Call With Obama campaign on McCain/Palin pushing Voter Fraud
By John Amato Friday Oct 17, 2008 5:01pmI was on the conference call with the Obama campaign that addressed this issue:
The General Counsel of the Obama campaign is currently holding a media conference call to "Announce Major Action Taken Today To Address Illegal Conduct and Improprieties in the Sham "Anti-Fraud" Campaign Orchestrated By McCain-Palin and the RNC."
I have the letter they sent out. I'll post it soon. They are taking it very seriously. Digby has been asking to hear from David Iglesias about the phony election fraud charges that the McCain campaign has been pushing. They are trying to demand an FBI investigation of Voter Fraud against ACORN. This is actually all about registration and not actual voting. Digby says:
The US Attorney scandals and this ACORN nonsense are pieces of the same story.
If you remember the Attorney firing scandal revolved around the fact that people like David Iglesias would not go after phony voter fraud cases pushed by Republicans.
He spoke out on it.
David Iglesias says he's shocked by the news, leaked today to the Associated Press, that the FBI is pursuing a voter-fraud investigation into ACORN just weeks before the election.
"I'm astounded that this issue is being trotted out again," Iglesias told TPMmuckraker. "Based on what I saw in 2004 and 2006, it's a scare tactic." In 2006, Iglesias was fired as U.S. attorney thanks partly to his reluctance to pursue voter-fraud cases as aggressively as DOJ wanted -- one of several U.S. attorneys fired for inappropriate political reasons, according to a recently released report by DOJ's Office of the Inspector General.
Iglesias, who has been the most outspoken of the fired U.S. attorneys, went on to say that the FBI's investigation seemed designed to inappropriately create a "boogeyman" out of voter fraud.
And he added that it "stands to reason" that the investigation was launched in response to GOP complaints. In recent weeks, national Republican figures -- including John McCain at last night's debate -- have sought to make an issue out of ACORN's voter-registration activities.
Whenever Republicans bring up anything about Voter fraud it's always targeted to disenfranchise voters and not protect our voting rights.
Just look at Indiana's Voter disenfranchisement Act just passed. The point of that law was to purge the voting rolls and also to scare people from voting. There are many other states looking to pass similar laws like Indiana. Voting is a right. It's not a privilege. It's something "the people" have had to fight for the entire time America was born.
National women’s suffrage, however, did not exist until 1920. During the beginning of the twentieth century, as women's suffrage gained in popularity, suffragists were subject to arrests and many were jailed. Finally, President Woodrow Wilson urged Congress to pass what became, when it was ratified in 1920, the Nineteenth Amendment.
And it took until the 1965 Voting Rights Act before African Americans were given that right also.
The National Voting Rights Act of 1965 (42 U.S.C. § 1973–1973aa-6)[1] outlawed discriminatory voting practices that had been responsible for the widespread disenfranchisement of African Americans in the United States. Echoing the language of the 15th Amendment, the Act prohibited states from imposing any "voting qualification or prerequisite to voting, or standard, practice, or procedure ... to deny or abridge the right of any citizen of the United States to vote on account of race or color."[2] Specifically, Congress intended the Act to outlaw the practice of requiring otherwise qualified voters to pass literacy tests in order to register to vote, a principal means by which southern states had prevented African-Americans from exercising the franchise.[3]
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The GOP is so unamerican...so uncaring of the country...that they would risk domestic peace in their mad pursuit for power.
Why does the GOP hate democracy?
They must hate it very much, because it seems to scare them a lot.
If they care so much about voter fraud, wouldn't they focus on setting up a reliable system for casting and counting the actual votes?
the gop wants POWER, dip-shit bush has over 1200 singing statements, this is more than ALL the presedents be for him. presedent NO. DICKTATOR WANT A BE, LOOK AT ALL OF THE MILITARY COMMING BACK FROM BUSHES WAR, 30,000. COMMING BACK WITH OUT THERE ARMS,LEGS. BRAIN ISSUES. LOOK AT ALL THE HURT OF THE FAMILEYS WHO WILL "NEVER" SEE THERE SON, SISTER,WIFE,DAD EVER AGAIN BECAUSE BUSH WANTED A WAR. DO YOU THINK HE EVEN GIVES A SHIT ABOUT THEM. HELL HE EVEN TRYED TO STOP SEN WEBS GI BILL. HE AND HIS BUDS SHOULD GET CHARGED WITH "WAR CRIMES"
"Democracy & Freedom" is nothing but a campaign slogan and a war cry. The GOP doesn't really believe in either concept.
They have done more to destroy this country than any nutjob Islamic terrorists.
They don't love democracy or freedom. They are ENEMIES of them. They believe in GREED and POWER and will do ANYTHING to keep it... including starting a race war in this country.
LET US VOTE! Can't we once in this fucking generation have a fair opportunity to vote? Getting a little tired of this shit.
Tenacious B - http://www.filthyrichmond.com/
And Rove rears his ugly head.
I forget, why isn't he in jail?
I hope he comes to the same ends as his role model Josef Goebbels
http://www.dunckleystreet.com/images/rove-goe...
Muthah Fucker!
I actually thought that after the Valerie Plame affair Rove should be incarcerated at Guantanamo Bay as an "enemy combatant." Jail is too good for him.
1000 radio stations across the country have been yammering about this for weeks and when it makes it into teh mainstream its too late, like so many other red herrings teh GOP has used over the years. in NM the 'public' pressure on iglesias and then on wilson and domenici to fire him was generated by local talk blowhards on either side of limbaugh and hannity on giant station 770KKOB at teh request of the local GOP/rove or it would have been a little story in the papers.
a searchable database of major station blowhard (national and local) transcripts would have alerted the Dem party to this ACORN repeat weeks ago but once again they want to play catchup politics and wonder what hit them.
at this point obama/biden and their people need to link this and the whole GOP to the talk radio monopoly. the GOP has finally completed it's morphing from the party of lincoln to the party of limbaugh. he more than any other person represents teh morals and principles of that party and has done more than anyone else to geet them, and us, to this point in our history.
Those currently in power are soiling their pants in fear they'll get indicted for past crimes by an Obama Justice Department. Thus the bogus charges against ACORN.
They won't face any charges. I predict Bush will give darn near his whole administration a pardon, then they will all reconvene in Paraguay and have one big laugh at how they screwed America.
How are our relations with Paraguay? Good enough that they'd extradite him if pressed?
he did this in a bill hs signed about 5 or 6 months ago.
I think the McCain campaign somehow forgot that this time they're messing with the president of the Harvard Law Review and millions of fed up Americans. They've gotten by with crap like this for so long that I think they just thought it would be "business as usual". Well, this time Democratic voters and the brilliant voice of Senator Obama are screaming "ENOUGH".
All I can say is, get ready for the new wave of angry white domestic terrorists. What kind of clever slur can we think of for these people? Hmmm...
How about "Banana Republicans."
I really like that one!!
NICE
the party of lincoln has finally morphed into the party of limbaugh- can anyone do that for U-tube?
he more than anyone represents the morals and principles of the modern GOP and did more than anyone, as point man for the talk radio monopoly reaching 60MIL from 1000 stations, to get us here.
We've officially become fourth world in terms of our ability to hold free, fair and democratic elections. It's way past time for international monitors and observers of U.S. elections.
What an insult. SNL is going ahead with Palin plans, according to MSM: http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/i...
I hope the audience boo's her off the stage.
I hope the SNL audience doesn't even show up! Ha Ha
If it hits YouTube, fine. I won't give SNL the ratings.
I'm jumping on your train Ms. J.
jump on!
With this Sarah Palin as POTUS set and you'll feel better. Once you click on the website, have fun clicking on all the different props in the Oval Office (windows, doors, "Bridge to Nowhere", the red phone, the trash can, various pictures etc.):
http://www.palinaspresident.us
And don't worry. SNL will have "fun" with Palin. The joke will DEFINITELY be on Palin.
I endorse it.
Be sure to check out the light switch. Heh.
is the RedPhone
Whoever thought that up is a freaking genius.
Boycott.
Let NBC know why its ratings are going to suck on Saturday.
To quote Billy Preston, "Nothin' from notin' leaves nothin'".
Or haven't you noticed that SNL doesn't really get high ratings? Hell, that show doesn't get middlin'- or even low!- ratings any more.
I hope the SNL cast and the audience tear her apart (metaphorically, of course).
I watch SNL, not this time, I will not give that BITCH any time. How can she get the VP spot when sho was part of that group in her home state who are nothing more than "Terrorist" hate the US.
Because that's what they are. They're Thugs who hijacked the Republican Party, and by doing so, the rest of the government and country as well. Just by being Thugs.
The reason Iglesias didn't pursue voter fraud cases is because it wasn't happening. It is election fraud that the republicans are gguilty of that should be pursued and prosecuted.
This is great news!
Speaking of the potential for voter fraud, it would also be very helpful to focus in the next couple of weeks on the matter of touchscreen voting w/o paper records. I worry that rigged voting results could still end up swinging the election to McCain, to which the pundits would simply shrug their shoulders and speak of the "Bradley Effect". Need to prime the general public to the greater likelihood of the "Diebold Effect".
Debold changed there name. In Texas, we still have debold. when I went to vote, I asked for a paper. they told me "NO" this is all we have. NO paper, NO recount.
showed the Countdown video to my wife. Her response 'How f'ing stupid these people are. I'm a simple woman who runs a motel and I can see these scams in 2 minutes! Do these people not know someone's gonna talk in this day in age? These people think we're still living in the 60's' end quote. I concur.
Why Don’t Dems Just Fight Fire with Fire with Own Robocalls
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=4099
They do have robocalls - they just aren't filled with nasty, disgusting, ignorant lies. I'm registered Independent and live in a Philly suburb, I get at least 2 or three call every day - mostly from the repugs.
that the Obama campaign must have some solid evidence,or they wouldn't have gone public with the letter.
Perhaps. Seems theyre pretty confident since they go as far as implicating the McCain campaign not just DOJ
with the election in the bag,why would they go to these extremes?
Because nothing's in the bag. It never is. Obama and his people know they're going to have to fight this one out tooth-and-nail just in order to win it fairly.
As Michael Moore said, this is the sound of dinosaurs dying. They're not going to go quietly.
Obama has told everyone.."Don't get cocky!"
my bad for saying that. Until the Oath of Office is given,nothing is certain.
Its good to see Obama is taking up the fight already. This ACORN "voter fraud" nonsense stinks and needs to be brought up to the surface the sooner the better.
GOBAMA!
countdown and rachel maddow both on this story...
i caught the headline earlier on googlenews when it broke...
something else on countdown - worst person...
remember when i asked about the flag behind OBAMA? and found out it was the OHIO state flag? that was monday 10/13...
it took longer than i thought it would for: the "outrage" if he'd gone and made up his own flag! da noive! (@16:29)
Bob Grant, WABC, took the bronze tonight...
Registering millions upon millions of new voters is the single biggest threat to the Republican Party. The vast majority of people who do not vote would likely vote for Democrats. The Republicans would be such a minority if another 20 million people were registered to vote.
Acorn is doing real damage to the Republicans and is a real threat. It is not a surprise that they are going after Acorn. We should have 10 more Acorns pop-up.
Registering more voters for a couple of million dollars of effort would do more damage to the Repulicans than tens of millions spent on advertising.
First thing Dems should do once Obama is in office is claim eminent domain over fuckin' Diebold, Sequoia, etc...Pay them $1 (abot $0.99 too much)for their fuckin' "proprietary" software and put it in the public domain.
The FBI should be torn up by the roots and reconfigured. The agency is always- always- willing to do the bidding of America's political bipartisan racketeers.
Don't linger on it so it backfires stay on the ECONOMY.
Let them keep making mistakes and don't interfere
'pay no attention to the Man behind that curtain?' Sometimes I wonder whose side You're on,LA.
Pursue it but you have to expect Bushes crony in the AG seat is going to play the buck stops here.
Side? What sides? I'm for people not sides. Despite my obvious disdain for Extreme Right Wingers at this point.
I love how you can predict the future. Can you tell Me some odds on sports? I'm a little short this week. OK, forget 'sides'. You speak one minute of 'negativity' and then say 'this won't happen'. You are a walking contradiction. Step outside of yourself once in a while, and You might understand what I'm saying.
I'd like to see something posted here about the slanderous robo-calls being sent out too. McCain/Palin continue the attack with smear and fear. I'm so very sick and tired of their hate rhetoric. It's even more frightening that this is how they would deal with our enemies if elected. Everyone knows you can't create peace with your nemeses with bitch slaps.
Why the fuck are the Democrats not making Huge stink about caging. i have not read anything about this except here and maybe other blogs. If the Dems make enough noise the MSM will have to say something. It is kind of late now but at least they should try. This has been going on for a long time.
You mean those hacks of the corperatocracy? That MSM?
Well first of all you have to remember who's running things on the Dem side.
"If (Bush) won't sign it, then let's get on a path" to enacting a recovery bill, Pelosi said, "instead of beating our head against a wall just to make a point that he won't sign it. But we can get something signed — please, God — when Barack Obama wins the election."
I mean seriously
As the disaster that is the McCain Campaign rages on more and more influential Republicans are endorsing Obama. The continuation of the "Bush Doctrine" is creating a new terminology in the American vocabulary "Obama Republicans" check out republicansforobama.com and you'll like what is happening.
This new attack on ACORN could prove to be a painful error in judgement. The reaction and legal challenges by the Obama camp is not only impressive but unheard of in recent Democratic circles.
What exactly do you mean with your name? GoodfortheMonkey?WTF does that mean?
its open to interpretation. it's a pro darwin stance mostly and that's about it
Mostly? About It?
When Obama has had to deal with racist t shirts with curious george on them, you pick goodforthemonkey?
Surely you can do better than that.
"mudshark huh" i'm a left of liberal Kucinich Nader supporter that is voting for Obama because he gives this country the best opportunity to deliver on its promise of greatness. I also believe that satire is a great tool.
I'm relieved to see the Obama camp finally pushing back on this. The fake accusations of voter fraud against ACORN are the cornerstone of the Republicans strategy for this November. This is the biggest issue pertaining to the elections that there is right now. The day after the elections, in key swing states, Republicans will be crying foul. It will be a replay of Florida in the 2000 elections in states like Indiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Florida and elsewhere. We're going to witness angry mobs of Republican operatives jamming wherever recounts are being demanded across the country.
The House and Senate should immediately hold hearings and drag Mukasey in to testify under oath about why he is illegally misusing the Justice Department and the F.B.I. to launch specious investigations right before the elections.
During the last debate McSame kept spewing his version of the communist manifesto saying that Obama wants to share the wealth, share Joes wealth. I thought it was odd that when I tried to buy Obama's book "The Audacity of Hope" on Amazon I was offered a discount if I also bought "Statehood for Cuba" by Arturo C Castro. So I guess McSame is Right and Obama's is far left!
As soon as we have a chance in this country (like once we end the wars, bolster the economy, get folks back in their homes, and put all the Bushists is jail) we should work real hard to reform (Palin has made that a dirty word) the whole election system.
First thing we could do is eliminate the Electoral College - make the system one person, one vote. That way the criminals - currently the Repugs - would have a much more difficult time interfering with enough voters to make a difference. Especially in elections like this one, where it is clear that one candidate will surely be way ahead in the popular vote.
As it stands now, they only need to focus their energies on screwing up just a few states with a lot of electoral votes. That would be nearly impossible if every single vote really counted!
The problem, Amitola, is that the American citizen may NEVER AGAIN get to the point where their VOTE IS COUNTED, accurately. We have seen the very same voter DISENFRANCHISEMENT by NeoCon/GOP operatives in the 2000, 2002, 2004 AND 2006 elections. Between voter caging and outright VOTE FRAUD, especially with no-paper-trail no-recount electronic voting machines, the USA can NO LONGER BE CONSIDERED A DEMOCRACY -- not unlike Zimbabwe and the Russian Federation.
I fear that the ONLY WAY that American LIBERAL and/or POPULIST PATRIOTS will ever regain control of USA voting rights IS THE BULLET. Every PATRIOT had better start arming themselves the way that the NeoCons, the skinheads, and the other out-and-out fascists here have been doing for years.
SCOTUS says "no organized fraud"
http://www.americablog.com/2008/10/breaking-u...
At least they are going to put up a better fight than we did in 2000 and 2004. This repub crap is tiring, but might as well get ready for it every single election because they cannot win fair and square.
It's not a question of electoral reform but would take a constitutional amendment to get rid of the electoral college. The last one tried was the ERA amendment, and it was like pulling teeth, and still failed.
)O(
It would *not* take a constitutional amendment to resolve the popular vote issue.
http://www.nationalpopularvote.com/
It would only take enough states to take matters into their own hands to control the issue. While there is Federal control, there is also the matters left to the States that aren't in the domain of the Federal government.
1: Please get a population registry like everyone else. You have social security registers, don't you?
Then, as soon as a citizen is 18 years old, he or she can show up and cast the vote in their own district.
2: The one person, one vote system is (In Europe) only practiced in Belgium and Switzerland (I think its those two). In theory, its fine, but nations would be more or less run by the populous regions of said nations, and so most campaigning and promises would go that way, which would cause other problems as well.
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Fri, 10/17/2008 - 19:30 — mudshark
What exactly do you mean with your name? GoodfortheMonkey?WTF does that mean?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1IoQJ_PVoM
)O(
Is an over-abused term. Too many people equate farce, parody and general rudeness with it.
It was like what Justice Potter said about pornography, he may not know how to define it, but he knows it when he sees it.
I think, perhaps like art, it's a question of the passage of time.
)O(
I started growing suspicious about this when it showed up as a featured story on Lou Dobbs. When I saw the same package on CNN's regular news, I thought, "WTF?" Thursday, I got a Media Matters e-mail noting that CNN had broadcast this story 54 times despite its inaccurate and misleading content. Then Friday I read that the FBI has opened an investigation ( Thank you Chuck Schumer and Diane Feinstein for saddling us with Michael Mukasey!), and now I'm convinced: This is the "October Surprise." The Obama campaign is pushing back hard against this (Thank you Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow for forcusing on this Friday night!), but I am wondering if the GOP is trying to lay the groundwork to steal another election. God help us all.
We should at the minimum listen to the republican complaint. Who, more than them, knows more about voter fraud.
We should listen to what their complaints are and get the specifics which will show how they have done it in the past.
i am utterly gob smacked that the fukin republicans even dare talk about cheating and fraud after the last election and their antics in florida. this country is being run by crooks, liars and unamerican arse holes
I wonder if Dobbs will get up to speed on ACORN now... or will he just squeal louder?
I wonder if we can prosecute him for being a Bush mouthpiece when all this is over...
Maybe we could exile him to Mexico...
obama is guilty of voter fraud and should be procecuted. he gave money to ACORN and has not said one commented on there crimanal activities. may just justice prevail and may they all go to prison for playing with our democracy. not only that but obama is evil in many other ways. goverment officials are sworn to uphold the constitution and obama and other liberals only seek to destroy our freedoms and right, rights that include the freedom to express religion and speech and the second admendment that says we have the right to bear arms. i am saddened and angry that our country as gone so far down to even consider such an evil man for president and to consider a godless socialism. many of us and our families have fought and even died to protect the freedoms that obama now wants to steal from us. obama will be tryant and will rule with iron fist and our nation will go to hell in a handbasket.
.....freedomusa, why we should believe you. Your grammar is atrocious and your spelling and punctuation are even worse. In short, you have zero credibility. You appear to be brainwashed by the Body Snatchers.
Blink your eyes seven times and slap yourself in the face. Maybe you'll snap out of it.
freedomusa, you're probably not as bad a person as this comment makes you look. Think for yourself and seek the truth, don't just repeat the first crazy thing you hear on some radical right wing radio station.
Are you somehow related to the woman in the video I just uploaded:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2c0ge4H_BE
Freedomusa
You are being used as a tool for a dishonest hate campaign. Wake up!!
Did you forget that Bush-Cheney shamelessly exploited the ignorance, fear and anger of Americans following the 9/11 attacks, using the same lies to stir up fervor in favor of a U.S. invasion of Iraq. Just like McCain /Palin- Lies, Fear, and Hate are dividing this country right now. Go tell your camp to choose civil and social peace over blind political ambitions. Tell them to put the country first.
John McCain seeks the Presidency not to serve, but to achieve power. The same as George W. Bush.McCain is an nasty evil little man, ..he will destroy America .
Sarah Palin is no better she has all the compassion of a pit viper. Palin spews lies, and pure hatred, She is a danger to us all. I am personally sick of it and so are many other American`s……so we will see you at the polls…Because most ppl want to end this dark chapter we have been living in for the pasr 8 years.No MORE!!
Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they will believe it.
~Adolph Hitler
go to PBS website for last night's Bill Moyers Journal where he interviewed Mark Crispin from NYU on his book about voter fraud, his views on ACORN and what voters should do come election day . . . IT"S A MUST VIEW FOR THESE TROUBLED DAYS!
Is this the issue that can break the back of the Republican party by going after the money that feeds it? I think that a criminal conspiracy to defraud can be established from their behavior over the past election cycles. Will this be the issue that destroys the GOP just as the KKK was destroyed? Let's all say it together RICO, RICO, RICO.
And then you've got the California GOP using YPM to switch Dem registrations to Repub so that after they switch the votes it won't look so obvious.
If there ever is a legitimate reason for voter suppression or purging of voters from listings, this guy's wife would be it.
I could not believe that someone like this woman would be given the right to vote, but then again all ciitizens have the right to vote whichever way they want, but this is incredible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2c0ge4H_BE
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