AIG's Liddy just read some death threats. Where did they come from? Barney Frank wants those names: UPDATED with Video
By John Amato Wednesday Mar 18, 2009 10:17am
(Post updated with video.)
Barney Frank wants the names of the people that received the bonuses from AIG. Liddy tried to make it a confidential list and Frank refused even after Liddy read off a few death threats from a piece of paper.
Where did Liddy get the two death threats that he read to Barney Frank? Rep. Frank wants those names, period so Liddy played the fear card and said he was worried about their safety and then read two "death threats."
Barney said he understood the hostility out there, but would subpoena him for them anyway. Where did Liddy get those threats? Were they letters, were they emails, comments on blogs or message boards?
Welcome to our world. I've received many death threats just for writing my blog and if he thinks a few unhinged comments will put the brakes on those names, he's sadly mistaken.
The hearing continues...Open thread on his testimony.
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Geez. They learned nothing.
you dont worry about the people who threaten, you worry about the ones with the match grade 50cal ammo and the spot overlooking your house.
how come nobody in this country uses roadside bombs?
barney frank almost laughed at him. i would have.
roadside bombs are bad enough on our troops in the ME...let's not start givin folks ideas here...we got enough violence with all these shootings.
LAST thing we need is some damn roadside bombs.
Some crazy whacked out bomb maker gets arrested in the United States everyday.
Couldn't agree more, though I suspect match grade 30-06 would get the job done.
In the end, none of these people (or their family members) are safe; with or without security. Anyone can be killed if the doer is sufficiently motivated.
Former Ranger
The hearing continues...
Eh...eh?
I don't think he specified the origin of the threats.
so, mr. master of the known universe is hoping that mentioning unsubstantiated death threats might help his case, maybe get him some sympathy? ha
shows just how out of it this fuck wad really is. personally, i think the greatest punishment for this thumbdick would be to force him to work as minimum wage job for the rest of his miserable life. yet, i would surmise that the majority of americans wouldn't cross the street to safe this asshole's life.
so, be careful dickhead, instead of getting sympathy you might just give some people ideas.
is a great idea. See how the like it when they cannot afford anything, and how the people that they are taking from are living.
As one of the greates quotes from the Watergate story involving Woodward and Deep Throat (Mark Phelps), "Just Follow The Money".
I have often wondered if the Freepers go on a thread and say totally outrages stuff and then use that stuff as talking points. He also just increased the number of death threats just by giving up the publicity
this up on the other AIG thread, but from Limbaugh via Media Matters;
Sounds like Liddy is a fan, it's probably where he got his information from.
that the people who designed the credit swaps were fired. What about the argument that "we need to give these bonuses to keep these people, because only these people can undo the complex systems." So he just stated that these bonuses went to NOT the credit swap division of AIGFD, but a different division. AND he just stated that the people who designed the system were fired a long time ago. WTF?
"we need to give these bonuses to keep these people, because only these people can undo the complex systems."
bwahahahahaa...
did he follow it up with a promise to gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today? so friggin' transparently dumb and insulting.
i don't care what division you work in AIG: NO BONUSES.
they are lucky enough just to have jobs.
when do we get to the part where he wets himself and starts crying "I want my bonus!! It's mine mine...you're being mean!!"
my popcorn is ready
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgF8jVJf5nA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvS8KMtsKsc&fe...
looks like the same cast from the errol flynn version of robin hood, hee hee
Probably the same costume designer, Edith Head.
I looked it up, she worked on Samson and Delilah but not Robin Hood. It just seems many of these old movies had a generalized look to them.
Most Westerns, when you look closer at them, are more representative of the period they were released than the period they are recreating.
the master of the universe turns into a pouty two year old girl, cause the wind blew up her shirt.
I was watching when he read them...and as heinous as those threats are (I certainly do not condone them) there is a bigger picture that these prima donnas need to understand--if they can, that is. But they've lived in their own gilded world for so long, I'm not sure if they'll ever truly "get it".
And Barney was he usual sly self...(love that guy)...when, after Poor Little Rich Kid Liddy solemnly intoned the angry utterences, remarked that he, politician Barney, gets threats like that as a matter of course...in other words "welcome to the real world, Biff"--
Ah well...at least Liddy didn't pull a Beck and start blubbering....
I heard Frank say he will subpoena if the names were not submitted. You know I agree with Frank, let the greedy bastards be known. They cannot silently rob the American taxpayer and go with their lives. They are criminals, just as much as Madoff.
For me $165 million dollar payback is not the issue. The issue is doing harm and then get rewarded. This is wrong. If these people who got the bonuses get ostracized by the community then it is fine by me.
read my comment above. Liddy stated that the division which brought AIG to it's knees was the credit swap division within AIGFD. He stated those responsible were fired long ago. The people who got the bonuses are IN A DIFFERENT DIVISION WITHIN AIGFD.
so like all big failing companies they played musical sinking ship deck chairs.
Then is this wrong?
Liddy has only been at the helm for 6 months. He is being made the scapegoat for all of AIG. I want the TRUE culprits, the heads of all divisions of AIG, these are the guys that caused the trouble and so far I haven't heard who these men are.
Don't worry...I'm sure that's got a good executive health plan.
You know...the one with choice of doctor, low out of network costs, low deductibles.
All those things that you need to incent high earners like Liddy.
It's all scapegoating! You think Madoff is the only ponzi schemer out there? It is totally ridiculous, congress should have let the damn company fail.
could you expand on:
"It's all scapegoating"
what is all scapegoating?
I'm reading a thread on 4chan right now, with some very articulate and focused threats that a smart guy like Mr. Liddy should take very seriously. not from me, of course, but very specific announcements have occurred on 4chan in the past, with the OP following through. so I don't blame the guy for sweatin.
sucks to be hated on, I suppose..
oops, I take it back. just refreshed and the thread 404'ed.
Better check that answering machine again...
If he's only been CEO six months, it's obvious he shouldn't be the only one on the hotseat. Where is the previous CEO?
Probably Arruba or St Croix.
Stop ripping off tax payers maybe?
Secret programs and sneaky assassins are everywhere. Ask any Ninja, if you can figure out who we are. The real threat comes not from the blaringly obvious, but from the vanishingly subtle. This one time I will reveal the secret.
You can always tell a Ninja by the...[Ack!]
Just I kidding. No such ninja existing. Nothing here to seeing.
http://www.insidesocal.com/pets/bill.jpg
http://askaninja.com/
How utterly shocking! Given that I've gotten death threats for writing MOVIE REVIEWS, I'm not too worried about some empty blustering resulting in any physical harm to these guys. Not like they don't get paid enough already to afford some security, anyway.
Besides, I take the continued life of Microsoft's upper executive ranks as evidence that there is no one in this country with enough drive to actually attack a corporate head; given the number of times I personally and others I know have been possessed by blind rage at Microsoft for reasons both direct and indirect, and by inference the tens of thousands who have felt the same way, yet nobody has ever tried to kill Gates or Balmer with anything stronger than a pie, I don't think AIG execs are in any danger.
Now, personally, I want to know why we haven't already fired the entire upper management level of the company. They've already conclusively demonstrated their complete and utter inability to do their jobs--said jobs presumably including NOT RUNNING THEIR COMPANY INTO THE GROUND--so why don't we just make an example of them? Since they're so worried about being poached by other companies, surely they won't have any trouble finding work elsewhere.
Come to think of it, has any company EVER been run worse than AIG? Explain, exactly, how whoever we replace them with cold do a WORSE job than these guys already have. What're they going to do, lose the value of the fraction of the company that the government doesn't own?
about Democratic Senator Chris Dodd deliberately removing a measure in the bailout bill which exempted executive bonuses - and deliberately replacing it with a measure explicitly stating that these bonuses should get paid.
anybody else heard this rumor?
not trolling and obviously not a repub. but really curious, and a little pissed here.
not the last part.
Someone here I'm sure will chime in with facts.
hello?
anybody?
Here's what I found out about Dodd and AIG bonuses:
http://www.courant.com/news/politics/hc-aig-b...
so - Dodd wasn't in the room when he inserted the clause? did I read that correctly?
FOX is making the most noise about this so - I'm trying to take it all with a grain of salt. but man, you can bet that if its proven Dodd wrote the clause - well - his career is over. done. gone. dead. ruined.
This morning said that the amendment was not Dodd's but someone else's. Harry Reid should be looking into it and disclose who entered it into the bill.
removing the stipulation. It will be interesting to learn the facts. As a major player in AIG, could we have been sued by the folks who supposedly had a contractual right to those bonuses? That be something... bailout the chumps, then get sued by them. :-/
Supposedly a bonus restriction was left intact in a Feb. bill?
An interesting key point, the Rep. from MA (Not Frank) made. As a Corporation, by law they must put the shareholders at the top of their concerns. A contractual obligation, date sensitive shows they anticipated a crash/loss and with an premeditated forward looking action, had the bonuses penned into said contract. Which maybe a criminal violation of fiduciary responsibilities?
That > Spencer Bachus, III U.S. Representative, Alabama’s 6th District is a kiss ass for some reason? IMHO
Problems Hidden Under The TARP
Snip - "What’s to prevent the TARP administrator from trading the government’s TARP shares based on inside knowledge obtained by Treasury’s unique position? When the Resolution Trust Corporation was created to administer the governments response to the S&L crisis its litigation rights, and the rights of others to sue it, were defined by statute. But the TARP legislation was unhelpful in this regard."
[ http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/corpgov/2009/03/... ]
Dodd: Treasury Officials Insisted On Weakening Bonus Provision
Snip - "According to Dodd, officials at Treasury expressed concern that if the government were to prohibit payouts, it risked being sued by companies like AIG, which had contracts stipulating that bonuses were to be paid."
[ http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/18/dodd... ]
I just heard a death threat. on CNN. channel 44 on the ol' cable teevee, here in Portland OR.
some guy calling himself "angry bob" called Rick Sanchez and reminded us about what happened in China with the milk executives who poisoned the public. he openly advocated "lining these AIG guys up against the wall and giving them a bonus in the form of a million full metal jackets"
huh... sounds like a whole lot of crazies is severely pissed off.
so much as it's a suggestion,(however crazy) offered by a rightfully pissed off taxpayer.
doesn't break my heart either way.
I'm still researching names, addresses and faces.
Agent Provacateurs???
Until there is evidence of who these jackasses are, one never knows.
The threats were supported by a Huffpo story/allegations. I would tend to give them more merit then less. As was stated we have laws to address the issue.
As far as taking comments on blogs? One rep. mentioned a comparison to Casablanca show very close to the one that was posted here a day or two ago by a fellow commenter. I'm not sure if you noticed it, but it was something about a sheriff or someone walking into a salon and saying I can't believe gambling is going on here, as he stuffed money in his pockets?
Some Rep. "The Female maybe from NY?" made a correlation to the activities of AIG as a "Casino", which I posted yesterday I believe. Found it on that Santeli thread,
The markets are just like a casino...
Tue, 03/17/2009 - 14:38 — Truth_Critic
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/cnbcs-ri...
I had sent my Rep an email that contained a Glass-Steagall Act / Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act. remark, and that same referance was mentioned as well.
Coincidence?
The CEO is working for a buck. He has nothing better to do then get death threats for a dollar? I understand about giving back, but something does not seem logical, at least as I try to understand it.
Retired, they say can you run this piece of shit and he says yes, and I'll do it for a dollar, hows that sound... any theories here? Am I just selfish, cuz I wouldn't do it for a buck!
I'm sure Frank has been on the receiving end of his share of death threats too. Who cares? Make it public. The min any of these jokers got was $1M. It would take the average American over 20 years to earn that much.
some guards to watch the little babies so they want be so scared
Only creates work, it doesn't create jobs. The Republicans would cry and piss and moan, then complain about a lack of security.
Then we can start talking about gay illegal immigrants having abortions on the American flag, like good Republicans want to do.
God, does his staff review these tapes. Get him to back off the mic...Alot!
His pops and clicks (and lip smacks) are driving me nuts!!
put one of those red bozo's noses on Beck's photo/video to make him easiers for us to look at?
pretty eloquent for a death threat.
If this were congress trying to get back Cheney's Halliburton stock options after he lied us into war and steered no bid government contracts at our expense to Halliburton, I would say I have an idea where the threats came from and I would say confiscate Cheney's shotgun.
I wonder if the right wing are going to want to tea bag Barney Frank over this?
from Dems?
WASHINGTON (CNN) — Senate Banking committee Chairman Christopher Dodd told CNN’s Dana Bash and Wolf Blitzer Wednesday that he was responsible for adding the bonus loophole into the stimulus package that permitted AIG and other companies that received bailout funds to pay bonuses.
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/politics/200...
Dodd: Treasury Officials Insisted On Weakening Bonus Provision
"The Treasury Department demanded that Sen. Chris Dodd insert exemptions into the stimulus bill that allowed bailout recipients to receive bonuses, the Connecticut Democrat said on Wednesday."
>>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/18/dodd...
Yea anyway, I was getting death threats in video game chats, for using progressive players names, I am still alive. Of coarse I didn't just steal 100k from a million people either. burp
Every time an insurance company denies a medical claim it’s a death threat. Payback?
This supposed outrage by the politicians is a farce , one big show . Just more hypocrisy by the crooks and whores who gave AIG billions and billions of our dollars , with no over sight , no strings and no accounting for it .This bonus stuff is maddening alright but is just a drop in the bucket compared to what our corrupt government, Dems and Repugs , handed out to their pals .
If everyone who was ever threatened went into hiding, we would have a lot more Reslugs hiding in the closet.
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