Did Republicans just admit that Katherine Harris stole 2000 election for Bush?
By John Amato Thursday Nov 13, 2008 4:00pmThis is too much. The Republicans are basically admitting that Katherine Harris stole the election for George Bush.
Republicans are also questioning the credibility of Minnesota’s Secretary of State Mark Ritchie, the man tasked with overseeing the recount. A background document distributed by national Republicans portrays Ritchie as a far-left, Democratic version of Katherine Harris, the former Republican secretary of state whose actions helped decide the 2000 presidential election. The document accuses Ritchie, who was elected in 2006 with the assistance of a progressive-led group designed to elected Democratic election administrators, of having connections to the controversial voter registration group ACORN and the Communist Party of America.
As Al Franken gets closer to victory, the Republicans are unraveling. A recount is definitely on its way. Oh, what fun...
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Not the first time Reps have essentially admitted that the Florida election was rigged in 2000.
Your saying that katherine harris stole the 2000 election? Wow,no one would have guessed!!! She caused the whole earth 8 years of pure hell? My kinda gal....signed SATAN.
They need some counseling from Stuart Smalley. Say it Sarah, "I might not be VP, maybe I can't see Putin from my house, but I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me"
I don't!!
If a Democrat says it they are called a "sore loser". But it is so much common knowledge that the Repubs are pretty much admitting it in this document.
The Republicans would know from experience what to look for and how to do it, when it comes to stealing elections. The ACORN doesn't fall far from the tree.
Franken will be sooooooo fun to have in the Senate, that I sure hope he wins (not to mention how important his extra vote will be!) But, either way, this recount process will be a great spectator sport (by-the-way, you can contribute to Al and be more than just a spectator). Win or lose, there is a VERY real chance that the Republicans will hurt themselves very badly by replaying Florida 2000 in their attempts to save this seat.
I'll be waiting to see Bill O'Reilly interview the new senator. Hehehe
I seriously doubt he'll be invited. O'Reilly knows he can't bully Franken.
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Imagine the funny expose he'd write, "Big Fat Republican Lying Liars".
This stuff is what makes up the future of this country.
well, not "Republicans" exactly... out loud...
but JOSH KRAUSHAAR and politico seem to be...
they really dont
may they all get ass cancer
Don't say I didn't warn you.
The difference is that Katherine Harris didn't want all the votes counted.
And Mark Ritchie does!
I can't believe Coleman was arrogant enough to call for Franken to concede when it was close enough for an automatic recount. What am I saying? He's a Republican. Of course he's that arrogant.
I heard Coleman tried to guilt trip Franken, saying that Franken ought to concern himself with the cost of the recount to the taxpayers of Minnesota and concede the election.
RIDICULOUS.
To be successful, a politician must get elected.
To get elected, you must do what's necessary.
Whether you're Obama or Saxby Chambliss.
Think what that means.
It means lying to the voters.
All sucking is not equal. If the democrats suck, then the republican's are a black hole of suckiness.
Yes. Then they will say that Katherine Harris was legitimate and that this instance is not. They will divorce Harris from any wrongdoing, blathering on and on about "context", then they will fully ravage and intimidate Mark Ritchie.
Is it January 20th yet?
Mark Richie doesn't have too much to worry about as far as harassment by the GOP. He seems like an honest guy and will do the job right. When you have a race that is that close you have to be honest about the recount. There was a huge voter turnout and people in MN were careful I think about how they chose their candidate. I voted for Frankin and I hope he wins but there were a lot of voters who voted for Norm. And I have to respect that.
I hope that if Coleman wins he peels himself from the slick machine and does the job he was elected to do. He is an opportunist though.
Katherine, Bolton and his gang, and the Supreme Court.
Dubya did not win in 2000. He was appointed. I hope that history will record it correctly.
When Minnesota’s Secretary of State Mark Ritchie was asked about the comparison of him to Katherine Harris, he had no comment, as he was too busy with his head inside his shirt checking out his boobs.
Is it too late to lock her up?? She lives about ten miles from me in Longboat Key. I'd love to make a citizens arrest just for the overt blue eye shadow she smears all over her lids.
What's it like to be an amoral ass aka. rethuglicon?
that they were saying this and thought, "Holy Shit". They just came out and said what all of us already knew, but was still shocking to hear them admit. Where was their outrage in 2000? Fucking hypocrites.
This nation is amazing. I mean really amazing. I will always believe, having paid very close attention to the affairs of this nation for the past eight years, that we were as close as we have ever been to losing our democracy. And in one season we change. And look at the change. These recounts mean something. It isn't hacks in a back room throwing away ballots. It isn't criminals in a room readjusting the numbers in primarily democratic precincts to have Republican candidates win by a landslide (that is more voters voting Republican than reside in the precinct). We did it.
God, I live in a great country.
As soon as it was clear that the vote margin was under half a percent, THE CERTIFIED VOTE TOTALS BECAME IRRELEVANT. Keep that in mind. Unless the vote totals would have shifted by the tens of thousands of votes necessary to move the vote OUT of recount territory, the only numbers that matter are the recount numbers.
So the Republicans have been screeching about the shifting certified vote totals being beneficial to Franken, all to no purpose. Wasted energy. Pure theater. Because even if the votes had changed so that Franken had more in the certified totals, it would not have mattered, only the recount matters.
The Minnesota Star Tribune, which endorsed Coleman, ran a highly irresponsible editorial yesterday which repeated Coleman campaign assertions without substantiation or investigation (some people complained).
Again, all this for nothing. The numbers that changed did not and do not matter.
Of course, the REAL reason for this screeching is that they know that Coleman will lose the recount, and they want to start now undermining the credibility of Franken's Senate term. Or even setting the stage for a legal challenge to the recount numbers (Norm regularly files frivolous lawsuits over election results, his latest was just thrown out.)
Meanwhile Mark Ritchie (a member of my church with whom I spoke last Sunday) is doing his level best to strictly follow the recount rules, and has appointed a carefully nonpartisan board of judges to oversee the recount results. I have every confidence that Ritchie will execute the obligations of his office with utmost precision and professionalism, and that Norm Coleman will file a lawsuit after Franken wins.
Katherine Harris and I hope he steals this election if that is what it takes to get beaver boy out of there.
Why is it that...
The IRS can keep track of how much every single person owes the government.
BANKS can keep track of how much every single person has TO THE PENNY.
The CIA can sort through the trillions of terabytes to find the word "bomb."
Yet we seem to lose votes left and right, as if it's some sort of mysterious process that none of us can quite understand?
Because.........votes are cast in secret, unlike a bank account or IRS account the is attached to a person.
We lose votes because we have turned our system over to a private industry with no oversight.
We lose our votes because we have allowed a system to be put in place that is IMPOSSIBLE to secure or verify in many states.
We lose our votes because one side wants us to and the other side doesn't seem to care when it happens and prefers to look the other way.
We lose our votes because we have turned the election process into a business.
Any person in America can go onto their bank website, or paypal, or virtually any site out there, and conduct a secure transaction.
Certainly, there's no reason why every person in America shouldn't be able to do the same with their votes.
Whereas paper ballots sometimes create confusion and generate many mistakes, and private electronic voting machines can be easily tampered with, on-line voting could be sent securely to a central place (be that one in each county, or one in each state) that could be verified by members of each party. So long as the same software were used nationwide (and tested and verified prior to production), I don't see where anyone could alter votes.
I used to think it would be cool if we could. But think about it; what a huge temptation the elections of the USA would be to hackers and code kiddies.
Not just the kids with Red Bull, but criminal groups here and in foreign countries, unfriendly governments, terrorist groups - online voting would be targeted by all these people every day. Think of the coup if you could sell California's votes to the highest bidder or hire someone to make sure your ballot measure passes without fear of reprisal because there is nothing physical to check the votes against.
I hope we don't go to online voting.
I clicked the link and it goes back to a politico story. But it looks simply like analysis by politico. So are you implying that Politico is now letting the cat out of the bag?
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I think you may be reading a bit much into it. I can't see that it is an admission.
Then you are obviously Far Left Mr. and/or Ms. RADICAL!
Last night my bff Susan got her first good look at Coleman and(just like me) could not get over the fact as to how God awful this guy looks!Are his teeth the temporary ones the Dentist gives to wear until your's are ready? This guy is hideous looking!Why anybody would vote for this cretin is beyond me!OOPS, my bff just informed me that Michelle Bachman is from Minnasota! that explains it all!
Colmans lawsuit against Franken was dismissed so I guess that means that Coleman really is the 4th most corupt senator in Washington
John, I don't understand why you wrote that. In an election this close, I would think the outcome is totally unpredictable. In 2004 in Washington State, the even closer gubernatorial race ended when Chris Gregoire "won" the election by something like 133 votes after a hand recount. I think that process was reasonably fair, if tainted by "irregularities" on both sides, but when an election is that close, I don't think any count will ever absolutely guarantee the "correct" outcome. Election officials have to do the best they can and citizens have to accept the result.
However, I don't see Franken as getting any closer to victory. He may win and he may lose; the odds seem about as close to fifty-fifty as one can get. However, saying that Franken is nearing victory, while innocent enough in intent, will probably simply encourage Republicans to scream "fraud."
isn't rigging an election illegal? why wasn't/isn't she charged?
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