Obama Wins Debate again. UPDATED with video
Obama coolly won the third and final debate. The first third I thought McCain was a bit more energetic and had a slight edge, but during the remaining sixty minutes Obama closed him out. The split screens killed McCain. He was blinking rapidly and looked angry. FOX's Nina Easton once again calls it correctly:
Easton: It reminded me of a tennis match where John McCain was running all over the court and Barack Obama was lobbing them back smoothly and the perfect example of that was the William Ayers question which we all were waiting breathlessly for, he raised it and Obama said look iI served on a board with this guy, a reform board, he's an education professor and no I didn't start my campaign in his living room like you claimed and then it was left like that and it was almost a favor for Obama for McCain to have brought that up.
Hume: You mean, he could dispose of it.
Easton: He Just disposed of it and moved on...
It appeared like McCain didn't want anything to do with Ayers and it showed. Schieffer forced the candidates to face the negativity issue and when McCain begrudgingly brought up Ayers, Barack knocked it down with one hand tied behind his back. I do wish Obama would have attacked McCain's associations more at that point, including highlighting his ties to the Keating Five scandal since they actually produced a documentary about it. Obama was more concerned with playing it safe.
McCain was more interested in a sitcom coming soon to you. "Joe, the Plumber," who as we're finding out isn't even in the 250K bracket that he questioned Obama about. A CNN focus group didn't like the new series at all. More shall be revealed about "Joe."
Don't See It [Ramesh Ponnuru]
A couple folks here have been saying that McCain is doing better than in the previous two debates. I wish it were true, but I just don't see it. I think a few times McCain has come across as spluttering.
CNN Poll: Obama wins: 58-31
Who attacked more: McCain did 80-7
John McCain was on tonight–sharp, confident, and powerful. I think he won this debate, although only on points. True, McCain needed something more than a narrow win, but I still think he did himself some good. On the other hand, even when Obama is on the defensive, he radiates calm and confidence. That helps him, regardless of who wins or loses the argument on the issue at hand
And the best part is, finally, William Ayers Responds to McCain!
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=4033
OMG! - is that really Ayers? That's terrifying - he looks like Bloody Bill Kristol.
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yeah...cause he wasn't wandering around aimlessly like a resident at an assisted living facility.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
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... looking for someone to change his diaper.
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And the contrast with Obama was amazing. Talk about cool under pressure: Does anything faze this guy?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Yeah - you can bet Corporate media is kicking themselves for that.
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wow.......nora o'donnel(cnbc) just mentioned that joe the plumber owes on back taxes. it's reported anyways.
the REPUBLICAN party......no not the GOP......had to develop this caricature to connect with the american public. MORE deception by the REPUBLICANS to sell their brand. i'm tired of it.
Someone over at Kos got the plumber guy's public records and posted them in the comments section over there today. That's probably what MSNBC did too.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
NRO uses nutmeg, cinnamon, and chocolate sprinkles to spice up the taste of poo poo.
Dkos:
Should Joe The Plumber Really Worry About Paying Taxes?
by BarbinMD
Thu Oct 16, 2008 at 10:01:27 AM PDT
During last night's presidential debate, we heard a lot about "Joe the Plumber," also known as Joe Wurzelbacher, an average (ahem) Joe, who is really worried that a President Obama might raise his taxes. But does Joe really need to worry? Because if he's the same Joe that ABC News identified as Sam Joe Wurzelbacher, also of Toledo, Ohio, he doesn't always bother to pay his taxes.
LUCAS COUNTY COURT OF COMMON PLEAS
J. BERNIE QUILTER, CLERK
700 ADAMS STREET
TOLEDO, OHIO
MONETARY AMOUNT: $1,182.98
DEPT OF TAXATION STATE OF OHIO
Defendant 1:
WURZELBACHER SAMUEL J
30 DERBYSHIRE RD
TOLEDO, OH 43615
Is it possible? Is this average, model American citizen a tax cheat? If that's the case, Joe doesn't really need to worry about his tax rates at all, does he?
For further discussion of Joe, see iceberglim's diary.
Obama picks his battles. He decides what is worth fighting for and what isn't. His confidence shows as he keeps his cool, listens and then reacts as the occasion calls for.
My grandmother would have said that McCain looked like he had ants in his pants. Notice that just about every time McCain was speaking Obama was looking at him. The only times I saw McCain look at Obama when he was speaking were the times he seemed pissed about what Obama was saying.
When they got to the part about school vouchers and McCain jumped in at the end with what he thought was a joke but it came across as if he were nothing but a fu*king wise ass.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
very well stated. this is how i see it. obama picks his 'battles'. it makes sense. mccain on the otherhand
is like an inefficient engine. he's the 'futile cycle' burns up energy and achieves NOTHING. his antics and
melodramatics is part mccain but also part theatric cover up for lies/half truths/deception.
i can't be sure about this i know mccain's father was an alcoholic. like BUSH i believe mccain has this type of behavior. not a criticism just an observation.
Barack LOST LOST LOST just like he will LOSE the election!
He crawled outta there with his tail between his legs like the underhanded sneaky cheat he has always been, and always will be. But not is OUR COUNTRY! He needs to join his namesakes in the third world! Maybe he may get lucky and become President there!
Na na na na hey hey hey ....gooooood-bye!
Wow, you are about as out of touch with reality as McCain and Palin. Sit down before ya fall down...oh wait, you already did...ON YOUR FACE!
He who laughs last, laughs best. Your meds need adjusting, bud.
Below I have pasted the link to exactly what Joe said to make sure it is properly reported.
He says he wants to BUY a company, he did not say he makes it currently. Please listen to the audio.
http://embeds.blogs.foxnews.com/2008/10/15/wh...
Joe the "plumber" said "I'm getting ready to buy a company that makes $250K ... a year." Now I don't know much about Republican speak, but when I say that I'm getting ready to buy something it usually means that I have the money for it.
The guy's argument turns out to be absurd. He may as well have said "I'm getting ready to buy Microsoft Corporation and I'm worried that your tax plans will ruin my American dream."
The core argument is also flawed. The Republicans are trying to equate taxes on wealthy people ($250K+/yr is wealthy) to burdens on small businesses. There is really no comparison. Businesses get taxed on the net profits; any small business that rakes in more than $250K/year without reinvesting it really needs to examine their business plan. Cash in the bank is good for individuals, almost worthless for a business. (Large businesses just move it offshore...) If you don't expand, your competitors will -- and if you rake in a net of $250K I promise that you will have competitors.
Ain't cognitive dissonance a wonderful trait?? Sure puts reality in its place.
when does Joe the plumber call the slip and fall lawyer to help him avoid being fined by the evil government?
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
started all that blinking I seriously thought He was gonna have a stroke. Whew! I mean how can anyone think He'll live to Election Day fer criss sakes.
John,
You say, "I do wish Obama would have attacked McCain's associations more at that point... Obama was more concerned with playing it safe."
I see it differently. From the beginning, Obama has been all about basing his campaign on the issues, differentiating himself from the other candidates on the issues. The "negative" ads that the campaign has run have all been issue-oriented, and he has stayed, as per his game plan, issue-oriented in the debates. He is steadily and confidently basing his efforts on his "new kind of politics" promise.
No one would enjoy more than me seeing Barack verbally destroy McCain and the whole vicious, destructive conservative movement, as he certainly could, as astute, witty and articulate as he is. But he's looking down the road towards governing, and I believe he intends to keep his promise there, too, to involve everyone. To get everyone, Republican lawmakers and supporters alike, to buy in to his reforms, he needs to insult as few people as possible.
To date, I think his strategy is working brilliantly. Love your website. Keep up the fantastic work!
Not a whole lot of people picked up on this, and I'm sure it could be written off as a minor gaffe, but in the section of the debate talking about how dirty it had become, McCain said something along the lines of, "We will be running a truthful campaign."
Now... is he admitting they haven't up until now? BEcause it certainly sounds/reads that way to me.
No offense but deconstructing any of the Repugs public blather is a futile waste of neuronal activity. Logic, evidence, argument, balance are anathema to their ideological pirouettes and tautologies. If you doubt this, take a swing at the howlers by the simian warmonger. His drool and drivel would drive a sane primate to hardball heroin in a nanosecond.
I read this three times with glee... very well written to say the least "hardball heroin in a nano second!"
classic..
urs
The MSM declared McCain the winner. CNN even tried to debunk their own polling. Well, John King and Dana Bash anyway.
BTW, what happened to Bill Bennett? Both he and Alex Castellanos were doing victory laps around the CNN Election HQ after the debate. Castellanos actually said Axelrod was tearing his hair out because of Obama's performance. But of course, then the focus groups, incuding Luntz/FOX, and every snap poll overwhelmingly went for Obama.
I'm tellin ya, you can make documentaries and write books about how disingenuous, or just plain corrupt, the corporate media have been during this election cycle. Wolf Blitzer even tried to pull a fast one with Hillary last night, but she was having none of it.
Fat ass degenerate gambling racist Bill Bennett was celebrating like a Klansman at a lynching immediately after the debate. When the poll numbers came in later with every category overwhelmingly favoring Obama....big butt Bill had vanished. Rumor has it he was in CNN's mens room begging his bookie for more time and apologizing for betting on Grandpa.
between the two was that McCain, because of the position he was in, had to make Obama his whole focus. Obama, because of the position he was in, was able to take the fight past McCain. McCain thinks only tactically; Obama thinks strategically. Kudos for Obama and his team for a winning strategy. I hope part of them are thinking past the election.
The media has been real busy lately working themselves into the news when it comes to the elections. Each talking head tells us their opinion and then tells us it should be our opinion too. They do their "professional" analysis even though most of the time they are totally wrong. Remember way back when this was just beginning and they told us our choice this year would be either Hillary or Rudy. They were all so sure, but they were all so wrong.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
If the way Obama has handled his campaign is any indication of the way he will handle the oval office, we'll be just fine.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
You're correct.
Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. Hey - the guy (Obama) is presidential... He thinks on his feet, he listens, he is capable of quickly understanding complex issues in their various contexts - and he communicates so clearly. I just kept thinking how much I'll enjoy knowing there's a person in the Oval Office capable of comprehending and reacting rationally to the myriad of challenges that office encounters and communicating his analysis and decisions so well. I just kept thinking: "Man - I am so going to enjoy hearing what you have to say about the direction America needs to take." Folks - the world is counting us "down & out" ... the "Ex-superpower" and though we've taken a few hard shots to the chin from our recent incompetent leadership - we're far from "down & out" ... but we do need good leadership to get out of this mess. With respect to McCain - he's too old to lead us for a full 8 years. We need a bright young president with vision and tenacity.
I am a Kenyan......and i closely follow world news and politics. America has had some tough times ......but one thing i know about America is the ability to get up, dust off and get back into the game and restrategize.Coming from a third world country.....i would rather stick with America as a super power anytime. I look at China,Russia,N.Korea,Germany and i am afraid of what the world would be without the Good old America to the rescue together its alies.So vote wisely America...the world counts on it.
Obama's basically won the election, now that he's secured the mutant vote:
http://www.weeklyworldnews.com/election-08/ba...
Barack Obama has received the political endorsement of America’s favorite precocious mutant: Bat Boy.
“This boy is a shining example of the American dream,” Obama said at a small press conference held after the meeting.
“Coming from meager beginnings, cast out for who he is, he now enjoys the freedom and limitless possibility granted to every American.”
GWB had a few, very "brief" moments of looking more sharper early on.
If this was McCains sharpest, I'm not impressed in the least. It is way too easy to find enumerous clips of total flip-flopping, change with the wind, lies, by McCcain, just like there was with Bush.
Let us not forget who was involved with Keating in the original S&L scandal. He looked, not so sharp, at the inquiries.
GWB + Ken Lay = crime
McCain + Keating = crime
Dejavu.
Obama + Rezko = crime
There ya go.
Sorry, Rezko told him that a house looked sound and sold him a tiny piece of land. Story over. Thanks for playing. Be better informed next time, and you may have a better chance of winning.
In judo you use your opponent's momentum against him. If he lunges like John McCain, every two minutes, you grab him and throw his ass to the floor in the direction he was headed.
You don't win on aggression. You win based on how many times you toss your opponent on his ass.
McCain didn't know what kind of fight he was in. Bu here's a clue: it wasn't boxing, John. (You would have lost that, too, by TKO)
Barrack never left his feet.
It's like McCain had no idea the camera was on him when Obama was speaking. I've never seen anything like it.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/16/...
KKK has been distributing flyers in mail boxes in Oklahoma.
http://www.jedreport.com/2008/10/mccains-lame...
Does anyone think for a second if McCain was cited to have won the debate by 2 to 1 in the scientific polling that the idiotic MSM wouldn't be proclaiming a "game changer." Instead, we keep hearing about the non-story of Joe The Plumber, and the question of "who won?" Unbelievable
if you didn't watch the FRONTLINE that was on this week, check it out. it was bio(s) of Obama and McCain. it was pretty good. there were some interesting interviews with harvard law school classmates that were exposed to Obama in his earlier yrs. they often talk about his ability to find compromise bringing opposing views together for a common cause. obama is a unique individual getting a unique time in history. i
predict he will get this country on track back to the constitution and less special interests. obama will
bring back the importance of the legislative branch.
Zoloft McCain http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYUN-oyitPQ
It's like Mr. Burns on The Simpsons after Mr. Burns got drugged up.
"I bring you love! I bring you peace! I bring you Joy!"
Yeah, I bet that whatever McCain's people injected him with started to wear off long before they wantedit to!OOPS!
At Wednesday Night's Debate (SLIDESHOW)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/16/the-...
can anyone explain why the recent polls have been apparently tightening? see www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/preside...
Check out a video compiling all of McCain's bizarre ticks and blinks: http://brainrageblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/pre...
http://ezinearticles.com/?Blinking---Control-...
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Look at Joe America all scared like a filthy capitalist pig. Sit tight, americans, its all over soon. Obama going to make you bleed like pigs, too. And then you'll know of his might. haha
Obama 08
you forgot one New
Thu, 10/16/2008 - 13:31 — John (not verified)
Obama + Rezko = crime
There ya go
McCain + S&L Crisis = Unconvicted Felon
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
More can be added if you would like to go that route.
Obama + Acorn = Fraud, lies, and illegal activities
there is another one for ya
http://www.armchairsubversive.org/
Re-thug-lics -- the party of immature, voraciously rapacious, despotic, doughy white, cowardly, aggressively angry, bigots, racists, perverts, xenophobes, pedophiles, murderers, war criminals, homophobes, misogynists, self-hating women, fetid wombs and consummate chronic liars.
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mcgramps + WACL=Sedition
Or at least Logan law violaters.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
with the Republican brand being so bad...maybe they should run for reelection under that moniker.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
I had a scary thought last night while watching the debate and it was this:
Even if Obama wins(and I hope he does), he won't win. What I mean by that is I fear that someone will strike him down/take him out/assassinate him.
Frankly, I don't think this country is ready for a black president, even if he is of a mixed racial background. And quite honestly, I don't think this country ever will be, or at least not for another two or three generations.
Right now it's still too unstable in this country, not only the economy, but peoples MINDS.
This guy[Obama] seems to mean well, he seems the right person for the job. But unfortunately even if we are given the right person, it often takes one wrong person to ruin it all.
I really really hope I'm wrong[about Obama being assassinated]. I hope he becomes president and not only elevates America but also elevates Americans to being respected again.
I don't think you are the first one to have this thought. The problem I see is that the media and the dems and Obama himself are the ones that have been bringing up race since the get-go. Why they are doing this I don't understand unless they want people to think how bad the repubs are. Because the dems have been blaming the repubs for all of these attacks or comments about race. But, if you go back you will see that it is the opposite. I have also noticed that Obama himself tries very hard to be linked to Kennedy. I would have to believe that he does this because he thinks if everybody looks at him as being another Kennedy then he will win? For the dems unfortunately, he is not another Kennedy. He has nothing inside the suit, no heart, no knowledge, no substance and especially (absolutely) no leadership skills to run this country - he only has a smile. So I hope that the dems will open their eyes and see him for what he truly is, a junior senator with no background and substance. The only good thing is that he can push the yes or present button in the senate for the people who got him elected and who control him. By the way, I am not a repub, just an American who wants someone that will stand up for us when we need him. McCain is that person. As for Obama, I don't need someone to smile for me, I can do that myself!
Wow, finally an intelligent comment in this far left site. Like it or not, McCain has the experience and background to be a leader. Obama has no experience to qualify him for the presidency. You all listen to his promises and fall all over yourself. You want to talk about disrespect while another candidate is speaking. I guess you were all blinded momentarily in all three debates when Obama sat laughing, or broke in and talked over McCain. If Obama makes it into the White House, it will be interesting to hear from all of you in about a year from now to see how great you think he is. You want a socialized heath system, loose the choice of health care you want to pay for, you got it with Obama, you want a socialist government, you got it with Obama. I for one prefer the America that my father and my mother served to protect. The America that my brother, my uncles, my friends have served and fought for. The America that gives you misguided, leftist, socialist marxist the opportunity to belittle and criticize our government. The America that allows YOU the freedom to choose to vote for a fellow socialist, leftest, marxist. Instead of trying to make this country into a socialist country, why don't you just move to one that already IS. (Because then you would not have the freedom you have here!)
Take your flamebaiting and namecalling horseshit over to Redstate, where you will be a hero. Here, you are just another jackass with an attitude problem.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
"McCain has the experience and background to be a leader."
Really? Is that why he seems like on the verge of busting a vein and having a stroke at almost any moment?
Sorry, just because you were a POW and lived to tell about it doesn't make you a natural born leader.
This guy[McCain] wanted to sit it out in the POW camp until his fellow prisonders were freed and he's going to sit it out in Iraq until America is flat busted and broke like his f*ed up busted and broken smile.
He's not a leader, he's a bleeder.
"I guess you were all blinded momentarily in all three debates when Obama sat laughing, or broke in and talked over McCain."
Talked over McCain? Good lord a toddler could 'brake in and talk over' McCain and it would make perfect sense. The guy is a drooling, babbling old fart with no new ideas and no sense of reality. Why else would he choose Palin?? You want to talk about out of touch, McCain is beyond the reach of even the most basic principles of how a president should be, let alone the American people. Obama had EVERY right to cut that old bean bag off, he should have bitched slapped him to set the record straight on all the crap McCain's camp spews out.
And you have the nerve to talk about talking over someone? Obama was completely respectful when he needed to be, as opposed to foaming-at-the-mouth McCain who is as see-through as a jelly fish in his ignorance and stupidity.
"I for one prefer the America that my father and my mother served to protect. The America that my brother, my uncles, my friends have served and fought for."
This is the real kicker for me. You know what, the American that your father, mother, aunt and pet dog served to protect doesn't exist any more. It's gone, it's changed and old antiquated systems like Wall Street and the government in general are in dire need of a drastic, across-the-board reboot.
The country your folks served to protect is pretty messed up, regardlesss of whether you have a kush job and a nice house or are living in a cardboard box under the freeway.
If you prefer the America your people fought for, you should want radical change and something entirely new, not something old, plastered together and on the verge of death. Or some vacant Alaskan soccer mom!
The biggest problem is you don't know what you want.
First of all, the race card whether brought up overtly or covertly by McCain's campaign or by his supporters will ALWAYS be there, because again, a lot of Americans can't wrap their tiny, rotted brains around diversifying the country to be open to any kind of president.
"He has nothing inside the suit, no heart, no knowledge, no substance and especially (absolutely) no leadership skills to run this country - he only has a smile."
No heart? Really? No Knowledge? Really?? No leadership skils? REALLY?? WTF are you smoking? Probably the same stuff you've been smoking since the Reagan era.
You wanna see a f*ed up smile? look at Frankenstein McCain. Good lord when that over ripe sack of cancerous potatoes smiles I want to vomit on his face to produce a better result.
I do wish Obama would have attacked McCain's associations more at that point, including highlighting his ties to the Keating Five scandal since they actually produced a documentary about it.
I have to disagree there...the thing thats killing McCain's campaign is people are sick of attacking the other guy over and over...the solution is not for Obama to attack the other guy over and over.
Obama is a pretty sharp cat, and he's figured out that what the american people want to hear are answers, rather than stopping his campaign to shit all over his opponent.
its why he's going to win
there's a lot of POWER behind mccain. WE need to continue our message. we're sitting good but we need a
safe landing. i plan on voting early which starts this weekend. VOTE early if possible. what people have to remember is that the BUSH administration and the REPUBLICAN party have been in perpetual politicization
motion for several yrs. if the NEOCONs had it there way they would RULE forever.
Yes, exactly. Check NOW to make sure you're registered. Check your registration to make sure your name and address are correct. If they aren't - visit your local Democratic Headquarters and find out how to get a provisional ballot (or whatever is necessary for you to vote)
AND VOTE EARLY - AND DO NOT ALLOW YOURSELVES TO BE INTIMIDATED. VOTE and VOTE EARLY!
I didn't know where to put this, but I think it should be seen. Its getting ugly out there, children.
http://www.pe.com/localnews/inland/stories/PE...
WARNING: It's pretty fuckin' offensive.
How ANYBODY can join this racist organization is beyond me.
I can only get so excited over who won or lost a debate. I'm much more nervous, like everyone else, about the outcome of the election. There's a ton of money and power behind McCain. I was surfing the web the other day looking at which CEOs have contributed to what candidate. I was sickened to learn that the company I left (for good reason) the CEO of that company had contributed more money than any other CEO. And guess which idiot the money went to? Regarding some people's disappointment about Obama not attacking McCain's stance on certain things, I think Obama has a much narrower margin for error than does McCain. As bad as I wanted Obama to punch McCain in the stomach, I was glad that he maintained composure. I believe this will carry him through.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RZVw3no2A4
Don't even get me started on who got money from who.
"As bad as I wanted Obama to punch McCain in the stomach"
Condoning violence is not appropriate
Thanks,
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/us...
"Barack Obama gets Fidel Castro's support
Senator Barack Obama's foreign policy credentials took a further blow on Tuesday after his candidacy for the Democratic presidential nomination won the backing of Fidel Castro."
Are you kidding me?
I know the republic party is morally and intellectually bankrupt, but really, is this all you have left?
Bravo on the name :)
If you don't mind the Socialist States of America, then by all means, vote Obama.
You do know I could say the same about your party, right? I mean the video and the news article does not lie, someone doesn't like the truth it seems.
I think its ovious to anyone that truly watched the debate & listened to the answers with an open mind that McNasty could barely contain his distaste for Sen.Obama and indeed, I wouldn’t be surprised if he ground down his caps with how hard he grinded his teeth during the debate. He was so angry that Obama wouldn’t take the bait to some of the barbs he threw out. He was obviously trying to goad Obama and got more and more angry when Obama simply rose above it & contidicted him without losing his cool. His snarky behavior, heavy sighs, and eye-rolling revealed a jealous, angry man teetering on the edge of a full blown rage.
NOT that kid of temperment you want associated with a certain 3am call…
I know they are saying he lost overall.. but WTF brand of crack are these morans smoking to think MCCAIN WON ON ANYTHING>???
No video.
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It would be curious to learn what part of the planet "fedupinflorida" is really posting from. The part that owns and invests in the communist media of America, no doubt. The part that installed Obama.
I have a hard time listening to these people that are interviewed that say they did not hear what they wanted to from the canidates. They don't know where they stand on issues. This is terriable that so many of us don't educate ourselves about the canidates and need to be told with missleading statements how they should vote.
In all of Obamas resopnses he has detailed his positions and plans and McCain has only tried to smear Obama. McCains plans are off the cuff and seem that thered is no thought like the buying bad mortages and refinanceing that at currant home values. This would be directly burden the taxpayers and the banks would be made whole.
McCains plan to make market losses tax deductable would only benfit the rich that desposable cash to play in the market. The loss on your 401K would not be deductable. That some real redistribution of wealth
Everyone was waiting for mcsame to bring up Ayers and then it was over.
Gosh these rightwing nut bags never cease to amaze me with their ignorance and stupidity!
At the risk of sounding like Andy Rooney, Didja notice in the Republician Reagan administration our tax dollars went to bail out the Savings and Loans? And 20+ years later under the Republician Bush administratiion our tax dollars are bailing out banks? Why does this seem to happen when the GOP is in the White House? Barack Obama took the high road and answered questions about Bill Ayers and not once have I heard him say how John McCain and 4 other senators got down on their hands and knees and licked up the drool that oozed out of Charles Keatings mouth, taking his campaign contributions and spreading influence to open doors for Keating to wipe out peoples life savings. And he has the gall to sit there looking down his nose at Barack and judging? If McCain wants get holier-than-thou, let him get rightous with his own VP running mate for abusing the powers of her office. What a pack of hypocrites.
I'm surprised that no one has commented that mcgramps has tried to blur the distinction between compare and contrast arguments with character assasinations under the banner term of "negative" campaigning.
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I admire Senator Obama. It goes to show how much control he has over his emotions. If I were in his shoes, I would have lambasted McCain for his atrocious campaign rallies and negative ads. But Obama didn't. During the debate, it really showed Obama's true character - he's willing to lose a battle in order to win the war.
While McCain seemed to do better than in the previous debates, he did not provide enough doubt about Obama's qualifications to be president. The polls continue to slide for McCain. His message has failed to connect with the majority of the American public. The Republicans need to get used to the title, Barack Obama, President of The United States.
I watched that debate from start to finish. I was anxious for McCain to bring up the Bill Ayers subject. He told Charlie Gibson on the news the other night that he would bring it up.
I don't know which debate that everyone else watched, but McCain did not bring up the Ayers subject! Obama did. Obama, brought it up. I think he did it because he saw that McCain didn't have the guts to do it himself. John just sat there looking all tense and nervous. His response to Barak bringing it up seemed tense, like he didn't expect to have to address the subject.
John McCain is looking more and more like a tired old man instead of a hero.
"and when McCain begrudgingly brought up Ayers"
I have heard enough about McLame not wanting to use the Ayers attacks. Talking heads saying he does not like going there because it is not his style. Bullshit, his camp is still running the ad and his communications people are still bringing the dead horse topic into the talking points appearances. If McLame appears at all uncomfortable with the topic, it is because his camp has no additional information beyond the smear words they have been using. so, once called out, they can not move the accusation any further down the road. he knows he is lying like the dog he has become and he knows we know. but, he still wants the benefit of placing any doubts about Obama. all they have left is Ayers the terrorist and Joe the plumber. and all this is just to ignite the base, with 19 days remaining. pathetic.
Senator Obama won the debate because he was calm, collected, and respectful. He did not attack McCain on anything other than the issues. McCain on the other hand tried to treat Obama like a child, cutting him off during responses, attempting to bully him with lies, all the time blinking like a mad dog. Culminating in his shouts of "GOOD JOB! GOOD JOB!!!" at the end of the debate, as if trying to shout out any pleasantries he would recieve from Obama.
If you want a "calm, experienced hand at the tiller", clearly you would never choose McCain.
Additionally, McCain spent about half his speaking time talking about Obama. It gave the impression that this election is not a referendum on the last 8 years (or 30 years that McCain has been in office), but a referendum on Obama, who has behaved flawlessly and unflappably for 20 months under the glaring scrutiny of the national media.
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