Kathleen Parker exposes the right wing attacks against her for speaking out against Sarah Palin
By John Amato Monday Oct 06, 2008 9:00amRight wing columnist Kathleen Parker has been viciously attacked by over 11,000 right wing emailers for saying that she thought Sarah Palin wasn't qualified for the job. We're used to seeing the media attack the left wing bloggers by quoting anonymous comments left on our blogs which is supposed to be a fair substitute for our own writings. It's about time the right was exposed for this behavior as she appeared on CNN's Reliable Sources to discuss this incident.
KURTZ: Here is what you wrote this week: "Allow me to introduce myself. I am a traitor and an idiot. Also, my mother should have aborted me and left me in a dumpster, but since she didn't, I should off myself."
Now, this is all because some readers didn't like what you had to say about Sarah Palin.
PARKER: Some people were very upset. Approximately 11,000 so far, and counting.
Yes, I wrote about Sarah Palin stepping down from the ticket. I felt after her third interview -- I didn't think any of her interviews were very good, but the third was catastrophic -- that she ought to leave the ticket and let McCain try to put somebody else in place to do a better job and help him with maybe the economy.
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KURTZ: What about the reaction? All those e-mails, all the vitriol directed at you, I mean, that has got to be somewhat depressing. Are you expected because you are on the conservative side of the spectrum to defend any nominee the Republican Party throws out there?
PARKER: Apparently. Apparently so.
KURTZ: And for those who missed the column, you said -- this was after one of her encounters with Katie Couric -- "If Palin were a man, we'd all be guffawing. And if B.S. were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself."
Their posters are as nasty and sleazy on the internet as anybody, but the media likes to create a false narrative about the left so they usually ignore it. However, Parker is one of their own and this time the Villagers didn't sweep it under the rug.
(transcripts below the fold via CNN)
KURTZ: What about the reaction? All those e-mails, all the vitriol directed at you, I mean, that has got to be somewhat depressing. Are you expected because you are on the conservative side of the spectrum to defend any nominee the Republican Party throws out there?
PARKER: Apparently. Apparently so.
I think the reaction to me specifically in this case was there are a number of factors, I think. One was that they very much do not want Obama to win, and so any opinion that seems to give ammunition to the other side is going to cause trouble.
I think another factor is that these people have so over-identified with Sarah Palin as one of us, you know, saying that we're all ordinary Americans, she's like us -- and boy she played that up in a big way in the debate Thursday. She really played her populist card. But I think that they felt insulted personally, so I think that accounts...
KURTZ: Were you not only wandering off the reservation as a conservative, but also as a woman who perhaps some saw as betraying or walking away from this woman, the first Republican woman on a Republican presidential ticket?
PARKER: Yes, I guess a little bit. It's sort of a funny thing for the right to be offended by objecting to the sisterhood, you know, by leaving the sisterhood. But I think most of the comments were more along the lines of -- that I was jealous, that clearly I couldn't stand for a pretty woman like Sarah Palin to be rising to the vice presidency, that probably I should be. And that actually hadn't entered my mind, but...
KURTZ: You have avoided taking this personally, but it's got to be a little frustrating to be beaten up like that for basically doing your job. You're paid to have opinions. You're paid to write a column.
PARKER: Well, of course I am. And I'm not paid by the GOP. I mean, I'm not employed by them. And I have to say what I believe.
I have to -- you know, there's an issue of credibility as well for me. So it was impossible for me to continue cheerleading for Sarah Palin given the evidence we had at the time.
KURTZ: I've got about half a minute. Did Sarah Palin's performance at the debate, which got fairly positive reviews from the mainstream media, cause you to revise your view at all about whether she should be the VP nominee?
PARKER: Sarah Palin I think redeemed herself. I don't think she helped McCain. And I think the question of whether she is qualified to be president has not been answered in a different way. How's that?
KURTZ: In a different way...
PARKER: I don't think anyone who watched her and who then listens to her answers would say, yes, this woman is ready to be president of the United States should circumstances warrant.
KURTZ: Kathleen Parker still speaking her mind.
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This miserable bitch can go cry me a river.
These are HER people. If she doesn't like them...oh well...in life you have a limited number of choices. One of them is choosing your friends.
You wanted to belong to this club, Kathleen. Ok. ENJOY...and stop whining.
Not all conservatives follow what the GOP says like zombies. I may not agree with Parker most of the time, but I appreciate her willingness to take a stance that has alienated her from her buddies-- based on taking solid evidence, evaluating it, and forming a new opinion.
I don't think this transcipt says "Oh poor Kathy." I think it's demonstrating a notable divide in conservative poltics, one that has been present for the entire election but is rarely spoken about.
Not all conservatives follow what the GOP says like zombies. I may not agree with Parker most of the time, but I appreciate her willingness to take a stance that has alienated her from her buddies-- based on taking solid evidence, evaluating it, and forming a new opinion.
I don't think this transcipt says "Oh poor Kathy." I think it's demonstrating a notable divide in conservative poltics, one that has been present for the entire election but is rarely spoken about.
Many Republicans do not talk openly about taking the party back, but that is what they want to do. Look how far they have swung to the right and how much larger (instead of smaller) government has become. That is not what conservatives want to see. They don't want the only issue in a campaign to be Abortion either. For them, it is usually taxes and being fiscally conservative, with smaller government.
That's all well and good, but this was the problem 4 years ago as well.
•too far to the right
•government size out of control
And yet how many Republicans voted for Bush and Cheney then.
And look where we are today:
Stocks decline and the Dow Jones industrials fall below 10,000
Al Qaeda on the rise
Both our (US) foreign and domestic situation is more precarious then ever.
So while there may be some republicans who don't think in lock-step with their party, they sure seems to vote that way.
It's time you all stopped.
If you had been paying attention he never really was fairly elected! Just by the sheer numbers of votes that were spoiled in 2000 not to mention the electronic vote flipping that happened in Volusia county and the 70,000 people of color that were kept away from the polls or had there names removed from the rolls by Jeb Bush and his Sec of State whats her name! Then the same thing again in 04 in Ohio when voting machines were very few to find in heavy Democratic districts with people waiting hours in line in the rain to vote and then being given the wrong ballots so their vote was uncountable even the recount was faked and several people, Ohio county elections employees, were convicted of falsifying the recount! Even in 06 the tide would have been bigger for the Democratic party if the Electronic voting machines were truly faultless!
I've been waiting for what seems like a very long time for just a chance to consider voting Republican again. When the GOP puts up candidates like Dole, GWB, McCain and now Palin - I guess I'll be waiting for quite a while longer.
GOP has become a global joke that nobody's laughing at.
I appreciated Larry Craig's willingness to take a stance too. I still laugh about that.
She should stop whining. That's what the Republicans do, and she's one of them.
Oh, I don't mind that it gets attention. Let her whine. What bothers me is that there was no real analysis about the endemic nature of such comments on the right. They made it out to be an isolated incident, grasping at explanations related to Parker and Palin's gender in common and the passion over this particular election. Rubbish!
People like Bull O'Really? go so far as to call left wing bloggers (not just the comment posters, but the owner/authors of sites) "no different from Nazis" supposedly based on the vitriol found on their blogs. Naturally, under a sad, but basic rule of modern politics, this is Republican projection.
The vile, disgusting and even threatening rhetoric of which Parker was suddenly on the receiving end is so common among the people normally on her side. That is what needed to be addressed!
I think we all lose track of the fact that what Ms. Parker is saying is 100% true. Sarah Palin is unqualified to be Vice-President, she is hurting her ticket's chances of winning, she is incurious, shallow and vapid. I could care less what side of the political aisle she is on, she is at least demonstrating a modicum of integrity by holding her party and conservatives accountable for the choice of Sarah Palin as VP nominee.
No matter whether we as liberals like her or not, she is at least not some idiotic cheerleader for Palin like so many of her colleagues who rave about her as the next coming.
Let the conservatives eat their own, leave Kathleen Parker alone.
Oh...and for the conservatives reading this...you know deep inside why you are so mad with Ms. Parker is because you KNOW she is right. McCain and his campaign made a serious error in their choice of Sarah Palin. I call it poetic justice...I am enjoying watching a hugely ineffective political campaign flail about for answers with increasingly difficult problems.
Is Sarah Palin really worth trashing one of your most respected female conservative voices? I think not.
JC
This thread is spot on. Parker has obviously gotten to her BS tipping point, and said enough is enough. Don't beat her up for that. If you do, you are no better than thugs like OReilly and Hanity who carry the party water no matter what. I like to see this story get more air time becasue the selection of Palin says so much about McCain.
I rember getting sen to the Pricipals office for being a Maverick. This was not considered a good thing then and it still isn't. The Choce opf Palin as VP shows the irresponsible, knee-jerk impulsivness of John McCain. It underscores what he says about himself, mainly that he is goes with his gut instincts, and he makes decisions fast, faster than the other guy, and that he doesn't look back. For McCain it's gut's ball all the time. He's a fighter pilot by nature. Okay, well I don't want a fighter pilot in the White House, I don't want a hot head, with a pugnacious and militaristic view of the world, an incurious "gut sensor" who flys by the seat of his pants. A guy, who buy the way got shot down three times. That tells be he has pretty shitty instincts. Give me the guy who thinks, makes good choices and who's never been shot down. The Palin Pick serves to remind us all how absurdly stupid that "mavricky" thing can be.
How does printing what she thought make her miserable bitch? I give Parker a lot of credit for having the guts to write what she thought, regardless of how angry it made people. If more journalists did this then we'd have real journalism and not puppet theater. And another thing the real tragedy is when people don't change their minds as new information becomes available and instead, we stick to the same old party lines and the same old position regardless of how things change.
Only thing more fun than watching a cannibalistic right-wing feeding frenzy is listening to the victim whine about it.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Kathleen Parker: The reaction was bracing, to say the least. I'm not whining, by the way. I've been through bundles of hate mail before, though previously from the left. I think this was worse, though, because of the personal investment conservatives have in Palin as "one of us." Also, they felt especially betrayed by me as one of their own. I'm not sure where we go from here. Debased discourse is facilitated by the instaneity (new word for the times) of email. If people had to take the time to address and stamp an envelope, we'd all be better off. At a minimum, we should probably post a sign on our computers: "Do not drink and send."
Most telling quote:
Oh, so you mean you actually are paid by them, but not as an employee?
Opeation Mockingbird came to mind when she made that comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockin...
I'm an Obama Democrat. I applaud Kathleen Parker for her honesty.
I didn't read any "whining" into this interview. Also, I think her statement, "... I'm not paid by the GOP; I mean I'm not employed by them.", only classifies as an amended thought. She said she wasn't paid by them. End of sentence. She then added, I mean, I'm not employed by them". It was an addition, not a correction.
Here, let me simplify with a made up statement. "I was really happy yesterday. I mean, just totally elated."
See? I'm not saying anything different by including "I mean". Just adding to my declaration.
Let us see how many attack me here so we can know how much more civil is this group.
Why would we attack you?
Like Jesus, we understand that you do not understand what you do.
Huh? I don't understand.
If you want to receive death threats because you support a loser like Nader then you're in the wrong place. I suggest you go to little green footballs.
Watch Nader regarding the
BailoutHeist which both McCain and Obama voted for, then tell me what sort of person you see!Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePrHajW_JBY
Watch Nader regarding the
BailoutHeist which both McCain and Obama voted for, then tell me what sort of person you see!Here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePrHajW_JBY
You live in America, right?
If you take votes from Obama, then McBush benefits, right?
Do you really think Nader will be elected? Will you be happy with a McCain/Palin presidency?
Bless your heart.
She can't step down.
It would be a de facto admission of defeat. The absurd judgement used
to invite her, which is written in neon already would now be written in
the sky in red white ansd blume letters. Who would fill her spot and
what would that person feel like being second choice to Palin? And what
would they have to offer, and how sincere would it be?
Has it not occured to you that Palin was not picked by McCain but by the Rove/Cheney machine? I think that they just want to get McCain elected and hope he dies so they can have their puppet Palin to be the front person, just like Bush is. Palin fires up the base and the other sheep, they are not getting rid of her. Listen to her speeches, it is like watching the History channel where Hitler fired up the sheep.
This has definitely occurred to me. McCain was headed to defeat because the reliable, motivated voters in the GOP base (wealthy neocons + anti-choice Christian fundamentalists) were utterly disinterested in him as their candidate. So they had McCain go war-crazy and shift positions on corporate welfare and tax giveaways to the rich, and reeled in the evangelicals by coming up with Palin. Problem is, McCain is mouthing platitudes right now, but he might actually get all mavericky when he's elected.
The person the neocon machine wants for president is PALIN. She's the new George Bush, only better: blank mind, blank slate, will say anything to win, will do anything she's told. Cheney must be absolutely delighted. All they have to do is figure out how to accelerate McCain's actuarial statistics, if you catch my meaning.
Poor lil Kathleen's getting the Dixie Chicks-Natalie Maines treatment.
Don't feel to fine does it sweetie?
Aren't we always hearing from the trolls about how it is the Left that marches in lockstep with itself, stifles any dissent within the ranks, has a "cult of personality" surrounding Obama, is filled with nothing but vitriol, racism, and sexism?
So, Trolls, what say you now?
The right-wing trolls can't reply because they can't compute 2 + 2.
:-)
That's because in their world, 2+2=5
:-)
I just read an editorial how Parker praised Barbie's debate performance. What a tool!
http://www.crooksandliars.com/comment/reply/2...
Kathleen Parker: The winking was beyond annoying. I haven't talked to any women who weren't deeply offended by her flirting for votes. But she was clearly told to do it. Her coaches said, go for it, honey. Flyover America will love it. We'll see if they were right.
No, it was girly, silly, unserious and obnoxious. One of the great lessons of The Bible, with which surely Gov. Palin is familiar, is that there is a time and place for all things. For serious people, winking gotchas during a vice presidential debate is absurd and insulting.
Sarah Palin: the best thing that happened to the Obama campaign. Keep trotting her out there. She'll send more people to the Obama camp than any paid advertising or Obama stump speech will. As the stock market tanks McSame/Palin's attacks on Obama are turning independents off hourly.
slow to understand
Witch Hunt....RUSH
...oh, wait. He's Canadian.
Damn.
The music's fine, but the man bases some of his lyrics on the writings of Ayn Rand. not exactly the philosophy we are looking for
Right wingers on average aren't "just as bad as" other internet critics-- they're a lot more prone to making physical threats.
I find it kind of funny that this woman is shocked at the vitriol. I mean really, if both sides were the same, shouldn't she be used to being attacked so viciously?
I think she is shocked they would come after one of their own. She mistakenly believed that their vitriol was reserved for liberals only.
If you recall, she said "we don't normally go after [Republican] women in that way. Democrats, yes."
I'm sorry, but I don't agree with some of you. While I hear complaining that the media does nothing but carry water for the GOP, here is someone who admitted she was wrong about her initial cheerleading for Palin and also intelligently and bravely took a stand against her party for the good of the country.
Whether you like Parker or not (and we can all agree that we don't), she speaks to the Conservative Republican. She influence those people. She may bring some sanity to that side of the Republican spectrum. There are many Republicans that are both frustrated and disgusted by McCain's choice and those people are not either voiting for Obama in November or not voting at all. People like Parker reinforce their positions.
I'm glad she spoke out. I'm glad she is shining a light on the mean-spiritedness in her party. I hope there is a break between Conservative Republicans and the radical christian right over this, an irreparable break.
...for that "irreparable break" in the right-wing ranks.
Actually, the kind of people that Parker represents truly hate this alliance with the radical christian right. This is one reason they also hate Palin. Hate may be a strong word, but it there is an element on that right that truly hate Palin and all she represents. She reminds them daily of the unsavory alliance between conservatives and the nutball religious fringe.
"She may bring sanity to that side of the Republican spectrum"
Then they wouldn't be who they are would they?
This is not your father's or grandfather's Republican party. They did not have to worry about or put up with the religious lunatic fringe.
My paper has been running this woman's column for some time now. She's GOT to be a paid shill (or hack like Armstrong Williams) for bush and the GOP. As recently as this spring, she was waxing poetically-a la Peggy Noonan, about her junket aboard AF1 with Mr. 27% and his "steadfast resolve"(my words). She regularly throws red-meat to the red-state dopes. She's a flat-earther who ridicules people concerned with overpopulation and global warming by reducing the debate to a level even too insipid for Fox by claiming that only humans make worthwhile contributions to the planet by asking "who's ever read a good book by a polar bear?" She's the worst combination of Diet Coulter and Noonan Lite. Bad processed crap filled with toxic chemicals.
I respect your opinion and appreciate that you have followed Parker for sometime and understand, better than I, the whole picture, not just this individual article and its follow-up. I'm merely stating that given her obviously very right leanings, to speak the truth about Palin should be taken for what it is: the truth and a concern about putting this self-described Maverick in an office she is clearly not ready to hold.
I, for one, appreciate that many from Palin's own party is outraged over this pick, especially the women. It is very satisfying and also somewhat entertaining.
The Right found great satisfaction in creating and enhancing this Obama/Clinton feud. Let's just relish THIS moment a little, shall we?
Like she's gonna turn it all around in 29 days? Like she's never been part of the problem? I still get death threats at YouTube, but I just laugh about them. They don't cause me to run whining to others.
What goes around, comes around...
You reap what you soe...
When you sleep with dogs, you wake up with fleas..
Etc..
How is the view from undeer the bus, Ms. Parker?
I expect it is not quite as good as the view she had from the back seat.
Liberal bloggers and columnists as well grunts like me have been dealing with shit like that from Cons for at least eight years and now suddenly it's a problem? Fuck her!! She helped breed the nasty fuckers now it's time for her to be fed to them.
Here we go again. A conservative says or writes something that goes against party lines or that challenges a GOP meme and many commenters can hardly wait to resort to personal attacks against her.
Save the attacks for her ususal water carrying. When someone like Ms. Parker states some fundamental truths about Governor Palin, attacking the messenger lesses the impact of her message.
Look ... for those of you who are all about defeating McCain and the GOP, attacking people like Kathleen Parker when she does something that undermines the current crop of neo-conservatives just decreases the impact of her comments. Attacking the messenger instead of publicizing and supporting the message is supposed to be a GOP tactic.
John and Cindy McDrysdale wanted Holy Joe and got stuck with the Clampettes.
Ha ha ha!!!! That is freakin' great! I love it!
were honest, decent, hard working people. What repugs could possibly fit that definition?
I'd take Elly Mae over Wilma Flinstone Sarah Palin) anyday.
The market is going down faster than the Bush twins and we're still talking about Kathleen "don't shoot me I'm one of you" Parker?
Down almost 600 points and committee hearings going on...and still no thread.
So are we...can't afford the thread..or the bread..
but you got that six pack, right Joe? *wink
It may be worth considering that Palin is only a tool for re-election, and that it was never intended that she serve as VP. Since McCain's likely pick would have been his friend, Joe Liebermann, but Liebermann would not have satisfied the religious constituency at which Palin is aimed, perhaps Palin is a temporary stand-in until the election is over, at which point some pretext for dismissing her would be put forth, and a replacement found --- perhaps Liebermann.
They may be trying to stall TrooperGate long enough to be elected, then rid themselves of her afterward, leave her hanging out to dry. It would serve her right for all of her mean-spiritedness and pandering.
BTW the GOP lawsuit that was intended to suspend the TrooperGate probe has been dismissed.
Things will get ugly (oops, already there) in order to keep the focus off of Sarah Palin's scandal. I hope the media latches on and obsessed over this subject like a dog over a juicy steak bone.
As I understand it, these subpoenas are almost incidental to the other 18 subpoenas they already had taken. I believe that the GOP may erroneously believe that it will delay the report; not so. The day the report will be released is Friday, October 10. These additional subpoenas may be added to it at a later date but the verdict of the report will still come on Friday.
Nice try by the Bush/McCain mafia in Alaska though to attempt to stall it. How many charades have they effected to date? Palin brining ethics charges against herself in an attempt to change the venue of the investigation, bringing suit to dismiss the investigation which was pitched out of court last Friday.....and the list of this "sideshow" goes on.
US Congresspeople Told Martial Law Would Be Imposed if Bailout Bill Didn't Pass
In this YouTube clip, Rep. Brad Sherman (D-CA) says some congresspeople were told in private briefings that if they did not pass the bailout bill, circumstances would soon force the federal government to "impose martial law."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaG9d_4zij8
Please get this on the front page.
I really hope the rest of the people on the left have gotten their escape plans in order. My family and I have everything ready to go just in case.
I know I sound like a loon, but do you really want to be caught with your pants down when the Cons do impose martial law? I know I don't.
Like it's going to make a difference in that decision anyway. They'll just come up with another one.
I'm still betting on a bogus military conflict...
Ha-ha! So the rightwingers ate one of their own. I wonder if she finally sees through all of their bullshit now.
Kinder and Gentler Thousand Points of Light bullshit.
Peggy Noonan was on C-SPAN this morning speaking on a similiar note about Palen and McCain's negative campaigning (to distract from ecocnomic issues).
Hmmm...isn't it time for FOX to switch to missing white girls and dumb household pets caught on camera?
There sure has been a precipitous fall in the number missing lately.
But school's back in session. Look for more teacher sex scandals in the coming weeks.
Poor Peggy. She's really been down on her luck career wise since Ronnie passed away and she lost her position as his personal ball washer.
Hmmm...isn't it time for FOX to switch to missing white girls and dumb household pets caught on camera?
How about if FOX switches to dumb household white girls, and missing pets?
)O(
Wow! Kathleen Parker didn't seem anywhere near as "screechy" and "unhinged" as Sean Hannity claims she is!
Is Kathleen Parker "seriously" a conservative? She is waaaay too human a person to be mixed in that crowd that I perceive as "conservative". Actually, I have come to judge all persons claiming to be "conservative" with the neocon/fascist party that reigns today.
Sad day for true patriotic conservatives. They have lost their voice, their party, and their heritage as a party that wanted fiscal responsibility and government no larger than what was necessary to carry out the functions of protecting and representing the people.
You can't say that for what is left of the "R" label. Today, it stands for bush/cheney/rove/rumsfeld/limpballs/vannity/bor/she-man/ingraham/etc. These are NOT the republican representatives of old. These are the representatives of a fascist neocon movement in this nation that are for privatization of all government services, corporate control of the world, and shredding of the Constitution and it's protection for the people.
Socialism has gotten lost in this battle. I am NOT for one party, but for ONE America.
I've got a somewhat similar post above, (in spirit, at least).
Watching Fuld testify is unreal. Here we are in a finacail spiral downfall, and these SOB's are worried about their golden parachutes? How much money is enough? Man, greed is really destroying our country.
This man is so unbelievably arrogant as he continues to exonerate himself in stealing money from the people outright. The balls of some of these disgusting individuals. I find it fascinating how such a seemingly intelligent man can say "I don't recall" and still believe that his integrity will not be shot to smithereens. Personally, I believe that a man like Fuld should be sitting behind bars right now.
....So?
i say give kathleen some credit. for her to come out about Palin in her editorial is important.i personally
agree with her and i have since Palin was picked. this is a very poor judgement by mccain. if your going to
be a 'maverick' you need to accept the criticisms. this shows that mccain and his campaign people are
more interested in winning an election than providing appropriate leadership. kathleen shows that loyalty
to your party has it's limits.
When I read how she was "maligned", I sent her a short thank-you. Is it political to point out the obvious, that Palin is far from ready to be president (VP or even governor of her own state). Parker needs to hear that she was right, so she has the courage to keep questioning McCain's judgment on this horrible VP choice.
I'm willing to bet at least 50% of those calling her worthless are evangelicals.
Such good christians.
Evangelicals telling Parker she should have been aborted or should off herself. Where is that sanctity of life those hypocrites profess to have?
I'm sure they truly believe, as they are programmed to by James Dobson, Pat Robertson and their ilk, that there is a holy war going on in America and they are the victims.
All Parker did was state the obvious: Palin? VP? Seriously? WTF!
Does anyone care about this? Everyone knows the saying about lying down with dogs.
I'd like to actually read some of the hate mail. She should publish it w/the writers' names. Yikes. And they're still piling on her, wow. It takes the "base" quite awhile to get w/the program.
Even Kathleen Parker is in shock by how utterly unqualified Palin is.
Talked a dear friend into carrying my home made “Joe Six Pac for Obama” sign in Columbus yesterday at the Springsteen concert. (I am a soccer mom) There were hundreds of Joe Six Pacs at that concert for Obama. There are millions of Joe Six Pac’s across our nation for Obama. I hope they start a JSpac (political actions committee)
Joe Six Pac can think with the head that Sarah is not speaking to. Rise up Joe Six Pac. Show up at those rallies..show Sarah you can think with your other head
http://www.flickr.com/photos/b.....774979913/
This is very disturbing to many senior, indeed.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1223155058466...
Go offline for a few days and C&L gets the facelift! Still getting used to the new look but so far I like it! Nice job!
But - is 2+2 still 4?
I do appreciate that she acknowledged the differential treatment accorded GOP vs. Democratic women when she said Republicans are "perfectly happy to pick on Democratic women." It's an obvious point, but good to finally have the admission.
It was a critical statement she made. I should have highlighted it more.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Rockville, Md.: I want to know why you hate Sarah Palin so much. Is it because she is not an elite like you? Is it because she is not polished like you and don't get invited to fancy dinner parties? We Republicans should band together and save Sarah Palin from the mainstream media onslaught. I'm ashamed that you even consider yourself a conservative. You're no conservative -- Sarah Palin is. There's a lot you need to learn from her.
Kathleen Parker: I saved this one for last. I do not hate Sarah Palin. It isn't personal. I don't think anyone at the Hay and Feed where I shop for compost would consider me an elitist. But let me just say: I'm in favor of elite leadership; I despise elitism. So let's drop the labels and stop playing the class warfare game. We're in this together and both sides could learn much from the other.
Is PacMan now a lobbyist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaOtsAFEX4g
Praise Bob!!!
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 10:50 — ysbaddaden (not verified)
Is PacMan now a lobbyist?
No, he's a Jerry Jones rehab project playing cornerback for Dallas.
Does anyone care about this?
Mon, 10/06/2008 - 10:39 — kpaul (not verified)
Does anyone care about this? Everyone knows the saying about lying down with dogs.
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You'll give birth to a litter of puppies?
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as a "Reckoning."
They're trying to rein in their rabid base. Now that she left the cage open, it truly is a pleasure to see the response she's getting from the twentypercenters.
Zero sympathy for her, hope she can sleep through the death threats knowing that her tapped phone is making her safer.
what exactly does kathleen parker mean by this line...
PARKER: Well, of course I am. And I'm not paid by the GOP. I mean, I'm not employed by them. And I have to say what I believe.
she was compelled to clarify / qualify her statement about how she's not paid by the GOP.. to, i'm not employed by them...
so - what you mean is you're a paid hack, a GOP-shill... and not a journalist...
Yes, this is how the rabid right treat their own... think how little respect they have for the liberal enemy!
Every time I here more about the American Right Wing the more we're reminded of Berlin in the 1930s. A very sad reflection on one aspect of America.
In full flagrantia, at last the american people can draw the obvious "parallels" between The Keating Five Scandal and today's world financial crisis......
AND THE COMMON DENOMINATOR IS: John Sydney McCain
This scandal damn near finished off his political career 20 years ago; today it will finish the job! Finally, John McCain is done in by none other than himself - his own worst enemy!
Now let's see Cindy's tax returns to finish the deal of her continued association with Charles Keating and they'll both be heading for parts unknown.
...regarding the media and the ridiculous notion of parity in coverage: http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/10/em...
Money quote: Referring to the crap that the McCain camp has been throwing against the wall and the subsequent media analysis of it Joe says is like saying "Well, it is bull-pucky, but the splatter pattern is interesting..."
www.keatingeconomics.com is the site for the full documentary on the "End of John McCain's political career".
this goes to show that the truth hurts those that live in self-deception. people that believe Palin is properly/best prepared to be vice president possibly being president are lying to themselves. the thought
that people vote for someone because they perceive the candidate to be like themselves is ridiculous. Palin
reveals she NOT only lacks knowledge but more importantly the curiousity/desire to explore/obtain knowledge. let's be REAL, Palin didn't name a publication that she reads routinely because she doesn't read
much. if you read something routinely you name it.....this nonsense that she would get criticized for what
publication she would say is absurd.
While I give Parker some props for standing up against Palin, the comment about not Palin being able to name a Supreme Court decision with which she disagrees should have been seen as a backbreaker. The comment about "most people" couldn't name a case is irrelevant. "Most people" are not governor of a state or running for high office.
As a Politician is is unacceptable. As an average American, it may be fairly standard.
However, as a Journalism Major, how about naming one case involving freedom of the press. Or, as a religious nut, how about naming a case involving prayer in schools.
How about Alaska's Supreme Court case Palin was whingeing about before she became the VP candidate.
I love reading what the trolls have to say, always entertaining so I am be a traitor, and maybe I should be killed so for all you trolls out there, its four (4)dammit!.
Washington Post Writers Group columnist Kathleen Parker was online Monday, Oct. 6 at 10 a.m. ET to discuss her recent columns and Post Partisan blog posts regarding Sarah Palin, and the concerns that led some conservatives to call for her replacement on the 2008 presidential ticket.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Kathleen Parker: Good morning, all. Thanks for your questions. I'll get to as many as possible, but I'm new to this so please bear with me. I know you'll understand if I choose to ignore your question and talk about something completely unrelated. (Wink)
Palin is the most unqualified person to ever be on a presidential election ticket, at least in my lifetime.
Palin is every bit the opportunist that McCain is, and Parker had a pre-senior moment when she wrote the truth. She probably thought it was so obvious that most right wingers would agree with her. Guess she thought wrong.
Another sexy, female right-winger expressing "shock" that her fellow minions are a bunch of hateful, death-eating fanatics.
Come into the light, Kathleen.....We'd love to have you!
I see this little notice pop up at the bottom of my screen that says there are two new comments or three or whatever. When I click on the little notice, I deon't see the new comments. What am I doing wrong?
. . . because I'm not getting any pop-ups at all. I have no idea is I receive any replies. I didn't realize that was even a feature.
You need to register. See at the very top of the page on the right it says register. Go there and give them your screen name and email address. They will send you a password. Then you can sign in and lose the 2+2 thing and a screen to write your comment that is different from the one you are using now.
to receive these. Sounds like there are additional features once one gets registered.
(I tried several times yesterday, and couldn't get signed up. Anyone else have trouble?)
Could you imagine a sane rational discussion between these parties?
http://usersites.horrorfind.com/home/horror/d...
Funny thing was under all these images were links to various steakhouses.
MMM...MMM...
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I guess Ms. Parker is unfamiliar with the adage, "If you lie down with dogs, you will rise with fleas".
The hate mail Eva Parker Braun has been getting is Bill Clintons fault.
Right-wingers making vile, hateful, despicable attacks?
I'm sure Bill O'Reilly will get right on it as he is fair and balanced. right? How dare these right-wing loons behave like the left-wingers O'Reilly's always bashing.
Well, I'll be. They still DO exist! I thought all intellectually honest conservatives had gone extinct. True, she and I may disagree on a NUMBER of issues, but reality is still in her sights. Good for her.
... there USED to be liberals in the Republican Party. And there used to be conservatives in the Democratic Party.
But those days are gone now. And I truly wonder if those days ever really existed.
It's neat, seeing all of you getting up on your soapboxes, but I wonder how many of you would cross a party line to vote for a truly liberal Republican?
Functionally speaking, between the machine that will run McCain, and the machine that will run Obama, there really isn't much difference. The "Plan", if you will, continues on it's onerous march.
The powers that be have decided that we need a "presence" in the Middle East, and they really don't care if that "presence" is in Iraq (McCain machine), or Afghanistan (Obama machine).
I read an article on this blog earlier, about some guy who said that the differences between Obama and McCain were "qualitatively" different... That makes me laugh. Because there certainly will be no "quantitative" difference, now will there? And the Fed oils the printing press...
But go ahead. Belittle the people who won't change sides, and are giving Ms. Parker grief for doing so. The way I see it, all of YOU are guilty of the same cognitive dissonance, because none of you will vote for Ron Paul, or any of the other "Third Party" candidates.
You think it's time for a "change"? But you're going to vote for a party that's been around for about two hundred years?
You see, it's all a matter of perspective.
I will no longer support the one-party system. My vote is wasted anyway. Might as well vote my conscience.
I might be slightly off topic, but why don't the Dems do a "kick-ass" ad about Sarah Palin, what a bad choice it is, and how it reflects on McCain? It almost seems like she has been declared off limits.
It would be seen as beating up on a girl (so stupid, was anyone worried about that with Hillary??), and also kinda stating the obvious. No one who thinks she's qualified is gonna see an ad and go "hey! she's really not!" And people who already think she's unqualified are going to see the ad as unnecessary. Better to let her incompetance speak for itself, IMO
If there's one thing the reichwing can't tolerate, it's disloyalty. Step out of line and you'll get stepped on, guaranteed. Kathleen Parker had better take back everything bad she said about Sarah Palin, whether she meant it or not.
And going on TV to complain about the attacks will just make them worse. Boy, is this woman in trouble...
One of the more interesting thigns that I've seen happening is that the more sane, honorable conservatives are beginning to wake up and smell their own party.
A lot of repubs right now are feeling ashamed of how McCain/Palin have been doing things (dirty dirty dirty), this latest "Obama/terrorist "connection" " tactic is only going to add to that. At least, that's what I'm seeing in real life. I think this is ultimately what's going to lose them the election - even conservatives don't want to associate with the republican party anymore.
"KURTZ: Kathleen Parker still speaking her mind."
No Howard, actually she's mostly been speaking the GOP talking points the last 8 years. What a putz...actually, one putz speaking to another putz.
How does it feel, Kathleen, to be bitten in the ass?
She's proof that even a dim bulb gives off some light.
Parker has allied herself with a party that is run by pathological personalities, a party that has intentionally branded itself to appeal to every base and sociopathic impulse of the human repertoire, a party which has marketed the ugliest things that humanity is capable of doing and producing as high virtues, that considers holding and acting upon the most unworthy instincts as patriotic, whose base constituency is composed of the racist, those without conscience, the pathologically selfish, the delusionally dishonest, the professional criminal element, cancerous social parasites, ad nauseaum.....and she's surprised? Upset? Shocked?
Oh, really? This should have been a wake up call for her. Instead she's defending the thinking, the ideology and the system that produced the people who are reviling and threatening her. Good God, but that woman is blind!
Hello Kathleen Parker? Why would you be surprised by vitriol and death threats from the right wing zealots whom you offended?
These are the same people that espouse pro-life while wholeheartedly embracing the death penalty.
These are the same people who find no problems whatsoever with blowing up an abortion clinic full of people or killing doctors whom perform abortions, all in the name of saving non-viable fetuses, even though the law clearly states that abortion is legal.
These are the same people who cloak themselves in Christian values while using every manner of hate, deception and smears against those who do not agree with those values.
I'm not the least bit surprised at their reaction to you. You shouldn't be either.
I sent this email to Ms. Parker (though, of course, I don't expect she'll actually get to read it herself):
Ms. Parker -
Please read this commentary about your latest article, describing the more risible of the emails you've received lately. I think it will do you a lot of good. I wish I could offer sympathy for the abuse you're taking at the moment, but anyone could have told you that it would happen the moment you decided to "not tow the line". Of course, you'd only have mocked and written scathing comments about how the "liberal, left wing" were liars. So, I have to tell you, I have no sympathy for you whatsoever.
http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/01/kathleen-pa...
http://www.first-draft.com/2008/10/pundit-exc...
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_dai...
And then, my dearest woman, please tell Michelle Malkin to never make the mistake that you did. They'll turn on her just as quickly.
I encourage others to visit the links above, also, to see what rational people sound like in regards to her situation.
this kind of a blast from the right can't be generated by TV or print. most dems, liberals, progressives ignore talk radio because it gives them a headache- that has made it the perfect media management weapon the last 20 years, an essential tool for the rove/atwater school. so limbaugh, hannity, etc. mention a politician or journos name a few times and thousands of emails faxes and calls come in and the strategists and analysts figure its some kind of spontaneous expression of public outrage, a consensus, intead of the dittoheads responding to the GOP-coordinated ravings of a few blowhards who have been given the bigest soapboxes in the country.
I will NOT waste one iota of sympathy on this right-wing dribble glass.
Note Parker and Mertz gloss over the wingnut spewing, yet I recall their bi-yearly screeds vilifying and tut-tut-ing the hateful, angry left like clockwork.
Also the selectively principled Parker backpedals with her "Sarah Palin I think redeemed herself" quote.
They must have really tapped themselves out trying to connect this to the left and failin'. Dontcha know?
I recall that Michelle Malkin said that conservatives police their own. Funny then that she criticized Kathleen Parker for criticizing Palin. Maybe what Malkin meant by conservatives policing their own is that they rain down vitriol on anyone who doesn't toe the party line.
She relayed thoughts of a delta force friend (or though surrogate) in one of her columns that: "These bastards like Clark and Kerry and that incipient ass, Dean, and Gephardt and Kucinich and that absolute mental midget Sharpton, race baiter, should all be lined up and shot."
Hate speech not the same when on the receiving end, perhaps
http://www.buzzflash.com/analysis/03/11/ana03...
How is it Kurtz gets away with calling Palin's interview "an encounter?"
I guess his final comment answers that.
Proves that the large majority of uneducated Reslugs, like Palin, will eat their own if you disagree with them.
Yes, I would have to agree that she is jealous. There's no rational explanation for her position. Obviously, it's not logical to believe that McCain is going to remove Palin. That was irrational. Now, she says that Palin redeemed herself in the debate - and she is STILL undermining her - though it's irrational to believe McCain will replace her.
When a woman behaves THIS irrationally - what's the explanation?? Jealousy. Or something else. I'd ask her if she's had an abortion. Honestly, I've seen such insanity related to Governor Palin - I have to believe a lot of it is psychic guilt over their own abortions seeing a woman doing it all who didn't have to abort to succeed. So they are ripping at her out of their own psychic pain - realizing she's proven to them that their decision to abort for this that and the other reason - is invalidated. Like this great sinking feeling that they killed their own child to "get ahead" and etc., etc... and here's Gov. Palin proving that was all a great big myth. They must feel like the ground is opening beneath them and they are going to plunge into a great unending fall... so they reach out to rip Governor Palin to pieces.
Jealous?? Had an abortion?? There has to be a reason for all of this irrational behavior as well as the projections onto Governor Palin. This lady's reactions are way way out of range.
I'm sorry if people have had abortions. But the reality is that we each have to face personal responsibility for our own choices and call the ugliness of it what it is. Then forgive. Forgive God, forgive yourselves, forgive everyone... and be forgiven.
Please stop taking it out on Sarah Palin - if that's what is going on. We've all made mistakes. It's forgiven. Be healed and dont' be stuck in the anger part of grief taking it own on Palin.
Whatever it is that is causing such hate... please stop the hate.
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