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Lindsey Graham admitted that he was godfather to two children disgraced Gov. Mark Sanford in South Carolina. How does NBC expect Graham to be objective in any sense of the word? He should not be on TV talking about this situation.

Graham and Romney and the rest of the Republicans are hypocritical windbags for defending Sanford now when they all tried to get Bill Clinton impeached. Sanford left his state completely without leadership for almost a full week and if an emergency had occurred in South Carolina there was nobody with the authority to help his constituents. That is the firing offense for Sanford. He was derelict in his duty. All he had to do was give the word and the Lt. Governor could have taken over, but he was in love so it's just alright if you listen to the Peggy Noonans of the conservative movement.

MTP:

MR. GREGORY: ...of South Carolina. Governor Mark Sanford disappeared for five days then announced that, in fact, he'd had a mistress, he was visiting a mistress in Argentina. He misled his staff, he misled the voters. Should he resign?

SEN. GRAHAM: Well, the first thing, I'm the godfather of Mark and Jenny's youngest child, so I'm just going to put that on the table. My main focus right now is can this marriage be saved? Can these kids have a mom and dad to guide them through life? That is my main focus. I think if Mark can reconcile with Jenny, and that's not going to be easy, that he can finish his last 18 months. He's had a good reform agenda. And I do believe that if, if he can reconcile with his family and if he's willing to try, that the people of South Carolina would be willing to give him a second chance. But he's also got to reconcile the legislature. If he can get his family back together, I think he can continue out his term and maybe do some good things next year.

Suddenly the party of moral values is the party of sinners.

SEN. GRAHAM: Yeah. I think we're a party of sinners, just like every other group in America, but we're also a party that openly talks about good things. It is good for Mark and Jenny to get back together, if that's possible, because it's good for families to have a mom and dad. And it's OK to talk about those things. And part of life is failing. So from Mark's point of view, if he can get his family back together, people are pretty fair in this country. Bill Clinton had his problems. People looked at his job performance, they looked at his personal failings and they said, "You know what, we're going to put one over here and the other over there." That's no justification for what Mark did, but I think the people of South Carolina appreciate what Mark tried to do as governor to change their state.

Sanford's presser was crazy. The people of South Carolina should be asking, "Was Sanford in his right mind dealing with the stimulus package?" He was refusing the money to a state in deep unemployment and obviously battling being in love with another woman. Well we knew that, but if you think Americans will be easily duped by the claim Sanford was acting in their best interests, think again.

And Graham's remarks underscore the fact that the witch hunt that Republicans and the media perpetrated on Bill Clinton was disgusting and should never be forgiven. The same behavior now is OK in their books, of course, if it involves a Republican.

SEN. GRAHAM: And they're very disappointed in what he did as Mark the individual and his malfeasance at, at times, but they can reconcile the two only if, if Jenny and Mark can get back together. I think the people of South Carolina will give him a second chance.

MR. GREGORY: Do you think you had that kind of compassion during the impeachment proceedings against President Clinton?

SEN. GRAHAM: Well, I can tell you this. I'm the only Republican that voted against the article that dealt with lying about Monica Lewinsky, because I think lying about a consensual affair when you're blindsided is not a high crime or misdemeanor. The reason I vote for impeachment is because it was a lawsuit about nonconsensual behavior where President Clinton was accused of doing some very crude things; he manipulated witnesses, he undermined the integrity of the legal system like Richard Nixon undermined the integrity of the political system. That's what I focused on, not the fact that he lied about a consensual event.

Riiight, and Sanford didn't fly to Argentina on the state's dime and didn't lie about it and didn't leave his state without leadership and none of the charges he raised against Clinton were proved true.

MR. GREGORY: Governor, do you think that family values, values generally is still a central pillar of what the Republican Party stands for?

GOV. ROMNEY: Absolutely. There's no question in my mind but that our...

MR. GREGORY: And do you think the public believes this after a string of personal failings that have happened to Democrats and certainly plenty of Republicans?

GOV. ROMNEY: I, I, I don't think there's any question but that we aspire to the highest standards of ethical conduct and that we aspire to values that'll make America stronger. There's no question. But the best think you can do for raising a child is to have a mom and dad love each other in a home. And, and to say that and to say we want to see marriage between men and women, that we want to see families raised with the benefit of people who are married, that's a, that's a very important part of our culture. It's part of what our, our parties believes. We believe in life. These features are important. And do we have people who don't live up to those standards? Absolutely. That's, that's going to be true. But not speaking about things that are important...

MR. GREGORY: Right.

GOV. ROMNEY: ...would be an enormous mistake.MR. GREGORY: But are you sensitive at all to critics on the left who say, you know, Republicans are hypocrites when they go out there and talk about family values?

GOV. ROMNEY: You know, I'm always going to be sensitive to people who are attacking on one side or the other. But I'll tell you, I'd rather be talking about the truth and indicating that sometimes people fall short than not saying what's true. And what is true is that America is a stronger nation if we have a culture which includes the creation of families with moms and dads and marriage and sacrifice for the next generation.

SEN. GRAHAM: You know, and I don't believe Democrats are for dysfunctional families. We don't have any ownership. I think President Obama, quite frankly, has been one of the better role models in the entire country for the idea of being a good parent, a good father. So this idea that, that, that we're for good families and Democrats are silent's not true. I think we fail on both sides. But quite frankly, President Obama has done a lot of good in his--the way he carries himself and conducts himself in the area of family.

And I think Graham was embarrassed for Romney, who tried to say that conservatives are the only people who believe in families. Idiot. This guy is the Republicans' leading candidate for 2012?

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ConcernedCanuck's picture

discussed the need for another Stimulus Bill. Deja Vu part 4.

Cramthra's picture

Didn't Mark and Jenny take any marriage classes at their church before they were married?

ProgressiveTroll's picture

Sounded to me like her rich Daddy set them up, he bankrolled the campaign. Like the McCains. I could be wrong, but I've pretty much been right about this whole deal. If so, no marriage classes needed. They are Repugs, they don't need no stinkin' rules getting in the way.

LibertyLover's picture

comment about them being the "party of sinners" around the web?


Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.

moniker's picture

Sanford professed Christian family values to get elected, then boinks some chick in South America. Linday treats it as if it were no more than forgetting his wife's birthday.

Lindsey is the godfather? Who knew the godfather wore pearls?


Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.

Annoyed Canuck's picture

Oh, you.

That made me chuckle. Made me giggle.

ProgressiveTroll's picture

Ms. Lindsey said he is the godfather of Mark and Jenny's youngest child. What about the other children? Shouldn't they all have the same godparents? Is that normal practice? Would the kids be put with different families if something happened to both parents? Is that the kind of family values we can all believe in? My kids are all going to the same family if I die, I would think any parent would want to keep their kids all together.

Uncle Joe Mccarthy's picture

just another reason sanford should resign

Can O Whoopass's picture

Palin had 14 year old Willow at the ballgame next to Giuliani the day Letterman joked about Bristol.

CREEPY: http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/L/e/1...

Ugh!

"Enquiring minds want to know!"

DICKERSON3870's picture

"...Lindsey Graham, pearls firmly clutched, is about to hit the fainting couch." - Blue Texan, 02/05/09

SOURCE - http://firedoglake.com/2009/02/05/harry-reid-...

getplaning's picture

Read this exchange and see if you think Gregory was trying to get a predetermined answer to his question concerning Nico Pitney's question at Obama's press conference-

MR. GREGORY: I just want to be clear. Did the White House coordinate with a reporter about a question to be asked at a press conference?

MR. AXELROD: The White House didn't coordinate with the reporter about a question, we were looking for a way to get questions from within Iran. We could--we did not have access to Iranian journalists.

MR. GREGORY: So you talked to a reporter beforehand and said, "Could you ask a question about--from--directly from Iran at a press conference?"

MR. AXELROD: We said if you--we, we, we, we, we knew that he had been and he was very publicly involved in getting--in trafficking and communications in and out of Iran, and we felt it was important...

MR. GREGORY: Well, why is it appropriate to coordinate with a reporter about what's asked at a time when we're championing democracy around the world?

MR. AXELROD: No, no, David, you miss...

MR. GREGORY: Is that, is that what you should do at a press conference?

MR. AXELROD: You're not, you're not listening to what I said. We didn't coordinate with, with him about what was asked.

MR. GREGORY: Right.

MR. AXELROD: In fact, he asked probably one of the most--the toughest and most probing questions at that press conference. We had no idea what he was going to ask.

MR. GREGORY: But you coordinated with him about, about that subject of a question beforehand.

MR. AXELROD: He was a, he was a, he was a, he was a vehicle to get questions from Iran asked at this press conference, and that we thought was not only appropriate but, but necessary.

MR. GREGORY: If President Bush had done that, don't you think Democrats would have said that's outrageous?

MR. AXELROD: I do--well, I do not, because if--what would have been outrageous is if we knew what question was going to be asked, just as if you told us what question you were going to ask.

MR. GREGORY: Right. So you would, so you'd do it again?

MR. AXELROD: Yeah, I have no problem with what was done. We want to foment dialogue around the world. And if we can get quotations from within Iran asked, whatever those questions may be--and as I said, that one was a tough one--I think we're, we're doing something positive.

It's as if Jeff Gannon never happened.

That's your fuckin business, assclown? Really? Maybe that's the problem.

Morons. They really do like inserting themselves into places that are extremely private, then brag about it...

Really Lindsey? You're the man to run in and make the mrs take back mr I don't wanna fuck my wife -- Excuse me GOVERNOR I Don't Wanna Fuck My Wife? After the gov has been parking his car in the Argentinian garage for over a year?
I had a cat, died in '86. You wanna bring her back to life, too?

Shadowgm's picture

... if it were stencilled on a baseball thrown at his head.

I mean, come on - Jenny already knew he was having an affair, and Mark's soul-searching takes him to Argentina to seek solace in the arms of whatever-her-name-is?

That's what we're complaining about, Lindsey. Integrity and morals are convenient pitch lines, but they're not actually part of your product line.

NoOneYouKnow's picture

pressure on Mrs. Sanford to not divorce "King David." In their strategy, if the mrs. isn't complaining, then no one else has a right to and therefore it's okay for the adulterer to keep his office. It was different with Clinton because, uh, Clinton wasn't a member of the party that's always going on about morality.
Romney, Graham and Gregory are Satan's sockpuppets.

Shadowgm's picture

... when it comes to teh gay, it's all SEE?!? IT'S RIGHT THERE IN THE BIBLE!

But when it comes to hopping off to Argentina to FUCK YOUR MISTRESS, why, it's perfectly okay, because DAVID PORKED BATHSHEBA.

As a non-evangelical Christian, I have to say Sanford's attempt to paint himself as King David is an affront to the Christian faith.

When the woman was caught and threatened with stoning, Christ stopped the crowd, but told the woman to go forth and sin no more.

When Sanford was caught, he continued e-mailing his mistress and waxing poetic about Maria's body parts (okay, so David was a poet too, but I don't the Psalms sing the praises of Bathsheba's ta-tas) .... and when told to break it off, ran to Argentina to seek solace in his mistress' arms.

Seeking forgiveness means acknowledging your errors. Taking your lumps. Changing your ways. I mean, this assclown hasn't even made amends to his wife yet, AFAIK.

Tyler Durden's picture

against things like usury and being wealthy, than they are about homosexuality. And we are talking like orders of magnitude more.

Then again, there are real dangers about basing one's religious and moral beliefs on a book made by committee a few thousand years ago...

Shadowgm's picture

... that the bits where Abraham took up with Hagar (Sarah's handmaiden), Solomon did the Queen of Sheba, and David had his little fling with Bathsheba (not to mention he was a pervert and a peeping tom) ... were less about an accurate chronicle of godly men or historically significant men.

It was to justify the behaviors of medieval rulers and support the Divine Right of Kings routine.

Well, sad to say, we're supposedly a democracy. I don't care how godly you are, or whether you think you should get a free pass because some lecher in the Bible got one: Sanford committed adultery.

Period. End of it.

savannah43's picture

corporations and their hired help in DC.

right? All of them are lucky they have any testicles left. They probably have Jenny Sanford bound and gagged in her bedroom under armed guard until she gives in to their demands.

Kate's picture

Be sure to look at her eyes to see if they're overly bright yet empty, like LauraB's...

Peabody's picture

How's 'bout you worry about running the country, and let the Sanfords worry about their marriage. The most prescient bumper sticker I've seen in years was aimed at the Dobson bunch:

"Focus on your OWN damn family!"

savannah43's picture

All children deserve a Mom and Dad who love each other? Really? So Mom is supposed to just eat his betrayal? Let him go to his whore and be done with this situation. The sooner, the better. Divorce immediately, and then maybe Mom can find a Dad with some integrity for her children.

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“If he can get his family back together, I think he can continue out his term and maybe do some good things next year.”

You can forget about good things for the rest of this year, SC. And what does the Sanford reconciliation have to do with anything? Their reconciliation does not change the fact that he is still the unbalanced current governor.

calgarylady's picture

What does Sanford's family being together (or not) have to do with governing? Who cares!

Sanford made a big mistake. He should resign.

hello's picture

..at tax-payer expense, which he'll only pay back because he finally got caught.

He should resign and also be charged with attempting to defraud the American tax-payer.

wldj's picture

Really Mr. Romney? Wait a minute Ialmost forgot instead of "sacraficing" for the next generation by joining the Army your four young strapping instead sacraficed themselves to promoting your failed political ambitions. I also like the "we believe in life" comment which I'm sure was just a snide and cynical and if I may say ineffectual jab at Democrats about abortion. These assholes have nothing but contempt for the majority of Americans. Why are they always the only ones we are forced to view on television?


The love you take is equal to the love you make. John Lennon Paul Mc Cartney

Sammy67's picture

Question: " Why are they always the only ones we are forced to view on television?"

Answer: Because most of the so-called main stream tee-vee gasbags and pundits cannot bear the fact the the President is a black man and are working with the republicans, who also cannot bear the fact the the President is a black man, to try to undermine him in anyway they can.

Being a Repuke means never having to say you're sorry.

It is like that with their followers too. Ever try talking an sense to one of them; just trying to give them the facts. No way, they will not accept any of it and will start dragging up shit from the Dems of 20, 30 and 40 years ago in order not to admit their guy is wrong. And then they will drag out the old saw about Dems not being any better. Lord knows that's true enough but unlike Repukes, Dems are not always on their soap box spouting off about family values and being holy then thou so they don't look like complete hypocrites at least when they also stumble.

ysbaddaden's picture
)O(

Wasn't Erich Seagall a friend of Al Gore?


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

bobsf's picture

"Yeah. I think we're a party of sinners, just like every other group in America, but we're also a party that openly talks about good things."

In other words, we are the party of hypocrites. Repeat: Preach family values, violate family values, repent.

ron's picture

Repeat: preach family values, violate family values, rinse, repeat.

Shadowgm's picture

- Obama needs to fail (Rush Limbaugh)
- Why hasn't anyone strung Chris Dodd up? (Joe the Not-A-Real-Plumber)
- How dare David Letterman make jokes about my daughter's failed abstinence! (Sarah Palin)
- Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Iran (John McCain)

Right.

I think everyone ought to make jokes about the Palins. The trashier the better; more fitting.


"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!

... and refer to most of the M$M "news" programs for what they are: "public relations."

EWA's picture

what was going down when Timmeh hosted Meet The Propaganda find Gregory's infantile attempts at hiding the agenda good for a sad laugh.

jakes's picture

"If" their marriage can be saved - "hopefully" the children will a mom and dad? Mark and Jenny should get back together if it's "possible?"

Hey there are kids involved - Mark and Jenny have no option except to reconcile! Those kids deserves a father and mother! Even if the parents hate each other and are full of guilt and recrimination and inevitably end up taking it out on the kids! Republican broken family values - live 'em!

Sammy67's picture

disfunctional republican family.

How can Mrs. Sanford sleep in the same bed with the man who repeatedly sought permission to visit his lover in the months after his infidelity was discovered his infidelity.

Pete2069's picture

We see the difference the repulican statements are when it is a democrat like William Clinton or Eliot Spitzer...

Newt Gingrich ,,, Throughout his career, this Georgia lawmaker has been one of the biggest moral charlatans in American political discourse. While he was impeaching President Bill Clinton for lying under oath about his affair with Monica Lewinsky, Gingrich said that Clinton had shown "a level of disrespect and decadence that should appall every American" after he had reduced the office of the presidency to the "rough equivalent of the 'Jerry Springer' show." The whole time, of course, Newt was cheating on his second wife with a woman more than 20 years his younger (who would later become his third wife). And then there's the matter of his first wife, with whom Gingrich initiated a divorce while she was recovering from cancer surgery.

Just over one month before the 2006 midterm elections, ABC News reported that Florida Republican Foley had sent several sexually explicit e-mails to teenage congressional pages. He referred to one of the pages as "my favorite young stud" and told him that he was "never too busy" to "spank it." Foley abruptly resigned in disgrace.

Of course there was bath room Craig and today we have two new republican sex stars...


None

..pointing your attention to a behavior which they strongly and morally oppose and then indulging themselves in same shortly thereafter. They even seem to be proud of this ability!

Politicians, evangelicals, White House 'reporters' -- the ongoing list of hypocrites is just staggering.

...to scream for immediate prosecution, impeachment, and resignation if, as Fox News had originally claimed in its chyron, that Governor Mark Sanford had been a Democrat.

What blatant hypocrites.

Janeane The Acerbic Goblin's picture

Mark Foley was a "Democrat" as well during his scandal.

pinkobait's picture

of Graham to admit that the Republicans don't hold a patent on Family Values and that the Prez is a great Family role model etc.This high minded pursuit wouldn't in any way be deployed to weaken criticism against Sanford and the likelihood of him predictably not stepping down now would it Lindsey?
I know how you weasels think ya see.


"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "

-Jack Handy

jay Severin Has A Small Pen1s's picture

I kept waiting for Graham to say 'for a black man' when he was praising Obama at the end.

I guess the marriage is more important than the governance of the state.

Janeane The Acerbic Goblin's picture

Disgusting little men, all of them, Graham, Romney, Gregory (for having no Dems on this panel, and for being a tool), Gingrinch, Vitter, Foley, Ensign, etc., etc..

Don't forget Bob Livingston, who was also screwing around while he was screaming for Clinton's head (no puns please).

And Graham is probably the biggest hypocrite of all, considering he was one of the House impeachment managers.

These scumbags tried to take down a president for a tawdry little affair when they themselves were engaging in the exact type of behaviour. I don't like Clinton very much, but the Monica scandal was total bullshit.

Shadowgm's picture

.... Henry Hyde, who presided over the mess and kept insisting HIS affair with a married woman was a 'youthful indiscretion.'

Oh, yes, Hyde. Another motherf***in hypocrite. A youthful indiscretion at 45 (or around there).

The fact that the country was so consumed (well, the MSM and the GOP, working together in manufactured outrage) by Clinton's affair 10 years ago looks so embarrassing and pathetic today.

I wasn't born with enough middle fingers...

attempt to take down Clinton. After all, they couldn't go after Clinton about really criminal stuff because they're all vulnerable to the same charges (eg, Clinton helped the CIA smuggle drugs at Mena Airport, but Denny Hastert and friends were helping the Turkish government smuggle heroin and arms).
Of course the Repugs are hypocrites--they're gay-bashing homosexuals, prohibitionist drunks and cokeheads, militaristic cowards, prudish libertines, moralizing liars and thieves. They're paragons in $4000 suits. They're mafioso dressed as priests.
In actuality, everything they do, no matter how illegal or immoral, is to keep and increase their power and money and the power and money of their fellow gangsters.
With some exceptions, the Dems are no different, they're just slightly less hypocritical.

ProgressiveTroll's picture

of Repugs ever. It's just too bad it's too long to make a slick slogan.

I wouldn't be surprised if he and his BFF Lindsey shared a big mushy kiss after the show.

pauleky's picture

...the two of them kissing is just gay and gross, right? Forgive me if I find no humor in your statement.

calgarylady's picture

I have nothing against gays or gay people kissing.

The picture made me laugh. That's all. Lighten up.

.. it would most definitely be a three-way.

calgarylady's picture

So true!

Alas, the GOP party (Southern, milk toast white, pompous assholes) are nothing but a bunch of nearly extinct dinosaurs, because they are corrupt hypocrites who have sold the people down the river for corporate America. Lindsey and Romney are two of the greatest examples.

Maureen Dowd has written a nice little op-ed about Sanford and the Republicans. I know you'll like it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/28/opinion/28d...


"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!

jakes's picture

Romney, watching his rival for the most powerful position in the world being swept overboard, stresses several times to focus on the heartbreak - oh...the sweet sweet heartbreak.

try.

Letting Lindsey Graham be the God Father to your kids is is like letting your kids go over Michael Jackson's house for playtime.

The Sanford story takes another twist.

"Lindsey Graham admitted that he was godfather to two children disgraced Gov. Mark Sanford in South Carolina. How does NBC expect Graham to be objective in any sense of the word? He should not be on TV talking about this situation."

How does anyone expect Graham to be objective about anything on any tv channel? This worm is a head cheerleader of opposition no matter what forum he's invited to. He's a chigger biting the ass of progression and proud of it. I was amused watching Romney have difficulty lying at the level of Graham, with Graham on his side frowning with dissapointment at his poor devotion to the universal "no". C'mon Mittens get with the program.

Joe H.'s picture

The GOP needs to get their sound-bite message machine in high-gear right now.

They are are on their heels and have lost a step and right now the machine is reaching deep on its depth-charts for long ball hitters (bullshitter extraordinaire) to take to the airwaves.

UberSenator Graham, along with Herr Mitten Von Rommel, can deliver an unstoppable fusillade of pre-packaged propaganda ad infinitem. With Von Rommel's hair and debonair chin, the laughable cacaphony eminating from Graham becomes irrelevent, as the cushy soft and reassuring image of King Ronald reappears from behind the closed eyes of the faithful.

It is great when teh gay is lecturing teh straight about teh girl. My there seem to be a lot of confused folks in teh gop?

Abbybwood's picture

How many of you could possibly forgive the rat and allow him back in to your life/bed??

I rest my case.

I hope his wife has something better to do with her children and herself than to FORGIVE this asshat and ever allow him any closer to her than that giant table you see in a very big lawyer's conference room.

Screw him.

Tell him to go shack up with Maria "Redacted" and stay there!


"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn

Shadowgm's picture

FIRST, what the frack was Governor Sanford doing in the company of a woman, not his wife, in any instances where a 'dear, dear friend' could turn into a romantic partner? Business trips? Official dinners in Washington?

SECOND, when you're having an affair and your wife finds out, only the abysmally stupid drop off the radar, ditch their security detail, and go running to a foreign country for one last fling (or even to 'end it' - fuck, if you can wax romantic over her tits in an e-mail. you can say GOODBYE via e-mail).

Sanford is not only an adulterer, he's a crappy liar. Not only was he negligent in running off to Argentina without delegating authority, can we also assume that if something had happened in Argentina that lover-boy might run off to check on his lady fair? Even if it had been an outbreak of H1N1 or other nastiness?

And then he brings it home to the U.S.? Gee, thanks, Mark.

calgarylady's picture

Sanford, in addition to being incredibly irresponsible to the people of SC, is a lying hypocrite and a loser. My heart goes out to his family.

" . . . if you can wax romantic over her tits in an e-mail. you can say GOODBYE via e-mail."

Yeah, but wouldn't you rather do it in person? You know, in private with a bottle of wine and maybe some baby oil?

:o)

Shadowgm's picture

... sure. But it means the marriage is over, and I sure as hell wouldn't be trying to paint myself as a Biblical king.

Kate's picture

Not me.

calgarylady's picture

No.

Sounds like Lindsay is a little too close to the situation to offer any objectivity. Sanford needs to resign for serious dereliction of duty.

Uncle Joe Mccarthy's picture

if any of us had run away from work for a week, and paid with the trip with money taken from our job place....we wouldnt have a job anymore

its that fucking simple

graham is trying to frame this as a morality thing...well, fuck the repukes morality...they have none

and his explanation on the impeachment of clinton is bs

I like the part about how he took company money to pay for it. After he was caught he said he would put it back. I didn't know you could do that if you get caught steeling.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Hulk's picture

This is the most hypocritical segment I have ever seen. DISGUSTING HYPOCRITES!!

Absolutely disgusting windbags. How phony can you be?? Just watch these two f*cking idiots and listen to their bull shit.

Annoyed Canuck's picture
Yup

I watched the clip and thought, Wow, Americans sure are nutty.

No way you'd ever see an interview like that on Canadian TV. Any politician who spoke so sanctimoniously and sentimentally about the family of an adulterous colleague would be laughed at. Not just Canada, either. Anywhere.

About 40 years ago, a future liberal Canadian Prime Minister said, in reference to the end of laws against homosexuality, that "the state has no business in the bedrooms of the nation". I've always wondered why American conservatives, who profess to hate government intrusion into the lives of individuals, care what goes between consenting adults behind closed doors.

calgarylady's picture

Trudeau definitely changed Canada for the better. We were so lucky to have him.

Then imagine them running the country! you would have to have a death wish to vote for these two or any other republican, i'm sorry republicans but it's true.

You two had your chance to jump ship, just like all the other republicans and you decided to double down on unprincipled politics. You know how it ends.

These guys are just pathetic.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

Sammy67's picture

with Sanford, more that the obvious.

According to an interview given by his wife, Sanford repeatedly sought permission to visit his lover in the months after his infidelity was discovered.

Just in case you did not get that, Sanford repeatedly sought permission to visit his lover in the months after his infidelity was discovered.

Now how wack is that? Or just insane.

Willard is just plain creepy. He seems affable enough but for president you need someone with character and honor. The Remaining Republicans have neither.


"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-

project's picture

as for the question being approved beforehand.
I think that every question that was ask of bush was either ask beforehand of by a loyal bush supporter. With the exception of Helen Thomas and they just quit letting her ask any.
Chimpy was to stupid to answer direct questions.
republicanism is a mental illness!

brantl's picture

and I still want to ask people to stop giving slick Willy a pass on lying under oath. If Clinton had had the balls to say: "Yes, I had sex with a willing White House intern, she's an adult. I will work this out with my wife , and with her.", then the Republicans couldn't have done a damn thing to him. He did 2 stupid things in a row, didn't he?

Should he have been impeached over this? Hell, no. But he gave them all the ammuinition that they needed to start that, didn't he?

Sanford's five day disappearance would have been firing grounds for ANYONE, unless of course one is Republican, because we all know they are above it all and not expected to adhere to the same rules as everyone else. Can anyone imagine if Bill Clinton had gone missing for five days, or say any Democratic governor? In fact, why aren't Democrats out there demanding Sanford resign? If the shoe were on the other foot, do you really think the Rethugs would be sitting silent?

surfjac's picture

..pasty white man who speaks with a forked-tongue!
All you Gop-ers vilified Bill Clinton and demanded he resign. He was impeached as it turned out but why aren't you on the moral high-ground here supporting Gov. Sanford's resignation? WTF, mate?


Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"

Why do the losers of the last two elections receive such glowing coverage from our "liberal" media. W.T.F. Another hyprocritical Republican found diddlding off wth a mistress. Family values my ass.

These cheating, disgraced, lying Reslugs, that refuse to resign their jobs are more of the reasons that they're going down the sewer pipe. At least the Dem's have a conscience when caught with their pants down. Romney has been screwing on his wife too for ages and what woman would let Lindsey touch them. Yuck!!!

"He [Petraeus] has managed to fabricate "success" in Iraq out of a three-ring shopping spree for John McCain and his gal pal Lindsey Graham, staged soccer tournaments, and rigged one-arm pushup contests privates (Psst, kid. Remember: the General wins)." - 08/29/08

SOURCE - http://discuss.epluribusmedia.net/node/2428

oldretire's picture

Talk about NOT having a Clue, Can the SPINELESS,GUTLESS members of the Racist Nazi Committee (RNC) ever stand on their own two feet and take ACCOUNTABILITY for their actions.

Ex-Canuck's picture

Is it now considered OK by republicans for a kid to have two fathers - one a "dereliction of duty", cheating on his wife, marriage vow breaking biological father,and the other a gay godfather?

Graham has finally fessed-up: We are the "party of sinners". Ronald666Wilson Reagan is our Christ and he has six-letters in all three names...We are here to be destroyed for our evil sins....Finally!
JB

jmmartin's picture

Is anyone really surprised at Linsie Glam coming to the defense of Gov. Sanford? Remember, this prissy prick led the charge in the House to impeach Clinton. And when Larry ("Wide Stance") Craig returned to the Senate Office Building after announcing his refusal to step down following the men's room foot-tapping incident, who was it welcomed him home (when Sen. Mitch McComical turned and walked the other direction?) One suspects, given Linsie's light-in-the-loafers demeanor, he probably wanted to get intimate with Larry-pooh.


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