Michael Steele meets the Teabaggers
I have to say I'm glad David Barstow at the NY Times wrote about the real core of the Tea Party movement being a revival of the militia movement, but it's very annoying too. David Neiwert and I have been writing on this subject ever since Fox News helped launch this extreme conservative coalition into action. The Villager elders all saw it too, but were afraid to put them in proper context. Barstow at least gives them some "official" cover to finally start calling them out.
Tea Partiers may say they are an independent movement, but their values are arch-conservative, and in the end it still benefits the GOP and their corporatist owners. A new CNN poll shows that 87% of them would vote for the GOP if there was no nobody endorsed by the Tea Party movement in their district.
Michael Steele met with 50 Tea Party activists for over four hours the other day because the GOP is very nervous that they would actually start a third-party movement and splinter the vote. If the Tea Party activists were serious, they would run their own presidential candidate in 2012.
Greta Van Susteren interviewed Amy Kremer, a Tea Party activist (who doesn't like the Birthers unlike Palin) about the Steele meeting and she made clear that the Tea Partiers were working strictly with the Republican Party; it hadn't crossed her mind to talk to the Democratic Party, too, until Greta asked her about it as a signal that they were, you know, truly cough cough *nonpartisan* cough hack.
As you can see in the video, Michael Steele was all worried that the Tea Partiers would be concerned that the meeting was about the GOP co-opting the Tea Party movement, which he assured them was far from the truth, as indeed it was. This was kinda like a sea lion assuring a transient killer whale that it had no intention of eating him.
Meanwhile, Andrea Mitchell interviewed another of the Tea Party leaders at the meeting, a woman named Lisa Miller, and she essentially said, as have many others in the Teabagger movement, that they actually want to take over the GOP. No ifs, ands or buts:
Miller: The Republican Party, based on its platform, has much in common with the Tea Party, but local and state parties don't necessarily reflect those values anymore. And so we're going to have to retake, if you will, the Republican Party, as opposed to the Republican Party absorbing us.
If the DNC held meetings with a liberal activist coalition that said the GOP are Nazis, traitors and not born in America, the media would be going crazy, and Fox News would be calling them psychos. (We remember the Senate condemnations of MoveOn.org for daring to criticize Bush's Iraq War general and for a supposed "Hitler ad" it never produced.)
Here's more on the meeting:
Around 50 leaders representing 30 Tea Party groups met with Steele and other GOP advisers to talk about strategies and the importance of conservatism in the 2010 midterm elections.
"The chairman believes it is extremely important to listen to this significant grass-roots movement and work to find common ground in order to elect officials that will protect these principles," RNC spokesperson Katie Wright told the Washington Post.
Not all Tea Party activists supported the meeting, however, as Talking Points Memo reported:
In an email to TPMmuckraker, Robin Stublen, another Florida-based Tea Party activist who has argued previously against working with the GOP, warned of "a back door attempt by the RNC to put their 'stamp' on the movement that welcomes all conservatives regardless of political party."
Oh, they aren't extremists. I mean, wanting to hang Patty Murray is quite normal, isn't it?
Steele!
CPAC begins their meeting today and you can watch it on c-span. I have listened to some of their speakers today including Brownback's, and I have to tell you this shit is frightening. If they had things their way, I would seriously consider leaving this country. This seems so far to be a pretty much tea party group.
I don't know the real goal of this group but what they are saying just doesn't make sense. Less govt and more tax cuts....oh and the overturn of Roe v Wade.
I feel like I'm watching some group from another country. Who are they and where did they come from? Are they crazy or just uninformed?
I wouldn't want to be a sincere republican leader right now because they have this albatross hung around their neck and it's beginning to smell bad.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
beginning?
"I feel like I'm watching some group from another country."
Reminds me of when I was 19 and went to Amsterdam in 86. I stayed at a nice dutch woman's home and there were two other Americans there. They were a couple in their 50's. At the dinner table, they spewed the most incredible, racist crap about how physiologically inferior blacks were to whites, etc.
It really struck me hearing this come out in another country, in front of a foreign audience. I was thinking, "This is where I come from? These are my people. The one's representing my country to other countries."
of course, it was "only a joke, not to be taken seriously", so what's your gripe? all the various threats, and bringing guns, etc. are just their humorous way of getting their point (whatever that may be) across.
leave it to some wussified, elitist hippy to take these things out of context.
... when I learned to handle firearms, my instructors taught me they were weapons and not toys. They are to be used for target shooting or in situations where your life is being threatened.
They are not political props to be used as a humorous way of getting your point across.
The only reason they bring guns to Obama events is because it's hard to walk through a crowd with a noose.
to tie one to begin with.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
I keep waiting to see if the cpac people wore any weapons as part of their attire.
C-span was showing one guy in the audience as he blissfully fell asleep. I guess he was all tea bagged out.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
... I know how to tie one.
to tie one on, then realized my occaisional tendency to pun might be myth interpreted by yu people.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
What do yoo mean "yu people?"
The Chinese.
The GOP and the Teabaggers can agree on the one most important point . . .
They both HATE Obama and will do and say ANYTHING with no regard for the facts.
Sure there are extremists but there are also good old fashioned racist rich white guys too.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
My friends and I have a running joke of who will be the first conservative figure to drop the mask for a moment and let an "N" bomb fly in public. While the usual suspects (Tancredo, Hannity, Beck) are the odds-on favorites, I've always thought Michael Steele would be the first in an act of desperation to prove to the righter-than-thous that he does truly belong. That having been said, I'm impressed that 50 tea-per tantrum leaders would meet with a "socialist."
Actually, I figure he would say something like, "I'm not black! I'm from the suburbs!" I doubt he'd drop the N word, but I'm sure he'd use code like "inner city" and "urban". I have a feeling with him classism replaces racism.
Let em only talk to republicans. Because they ARE REPUBLICANS!!! Anti tax rich bastards who voted for George W. Bush who still want the same tax cuts even though Bush nearly destroyed the worlds economy and bankrupted American. They loved the war against the wrong country (Iraq). They're just a scam to try and shift blame from Republicans to Democrats for all the disaster their president Bush dumped on Americas back. Out the bastards for what they are! Don't talk with them like they might be on your side. Jeeze democrats, don't be so friggin stupid.
They keep saying they want to take their country back. Well, that country they want to take back is also our country. And what does that mean? Do they want to take the country back to the way in was in the 50s? Do they want total control over everything that happens in this country?
I keep hearing "tax cuts", to me that is simply bait to recruit greedy selfish voters. They don't mention what would happen to this country without tax dollars. Just ask any mayor in Florida what happens when there is a lack of tax money coming in and they'll show you the projects they had to cancel or put on hold since the local economies failed and the tax money began drying up.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Or, show footage of the Minnesota bridge collapse to show what happens when we cut tax money meant for infrastructure.
Too bad c-span couldn't show a split screen with scenes from that while these people are speaking.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Democratic conferance where c-span gives full coverage. I can't but with a far left media, maybe democrats don't need much coverage.
Just switch the R to a D at the bottom of the screen. the footage looks very similar.
Obviously you haven't seen or heard any of these speakers today. If these people represented democrats, I would be changing my party affiliation instead of typing this comment.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
from the Pear Orchard Wing of the Democorporats.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
these people were promoted by the likes of Dick Armey, Michelle Bachmann Glenn Beck and all the right wing nuts at Fox propaganda.
GRETTA: "The Tea Party movement is not affiliated with any political party."
GRIFF: "It's important to note, Gretta, that the Tea Party movement is not affiliated with any political party."
TEA PARTIER: "We are not affiliated with any political party."
GOPer: "The Tea Party movement is not affiliated with any political party."
GRIFF: "There you have it. The Tea Party movement is not affiliated with any political party."
GRETTA: "Thank you Griff. I think it's important to note that the Tea Party movement is not affiliated with any political party."
Methinks they doth protest too much. Literally.
Jason Mattera who is the spokesperson for Young American's Foundation, just spoke at cpac. He is a totally crude speaker. He called the Obama Girl, slutty. He also made a crude reference to Barney Frank's sexual orientation and finished his speech by saying the young republicans should stand up and say, "Hey jackass, get your government off my freedom." The crowd cheered like crazy. He has a book coming out soon titled, "Obama Zombies".
This is their best and brighest? This is the future voice of their party or parties? Tells me pretty much all I need to know. Oh, and I guess this is the Christian voice too.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
As in ground and off the old block.
"Let's talk dirty to the animals"
At 2:40 seconds on the top video, there is a quote from the blond gal as she is describing the essence of her party.
"We have no head...."
Those three seconds should have been the only accompanying video John put with this thread.
So succinct.
I was thinking the same thing. It's a source of pride for them. They have no actual policy positions, let alone strategy. They just don't like taxes. Or homework. Or doing chores. So they rant about "the Constitution" and "freedoms" because fiscal and social responsibility just aren't fair! I bet Ike's mom never made him eat vegetables!
This is a real meme the last few days. "We have no leaders." Even Sarah said it is so.
Another thing this women said is that we are lead by your viewers. (to Grif Jenkins, meaning FOX's viewers)
If you haven't before, go to FOX news and read just about any comment thread.
Those are our new leaders.
In the brief few seconds that Sean Hannity was on my radio last night before I switched stations, he confirmed that this is the goal. Actually, he used the words "take back the party" if I recall correctely.
As if this group actually ever really was the heart and soul of the GOP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZEJ4OJTgg8
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
One thing is becoming clear with the cpac speakers, they have a burr up their ass about msnbc. That guy Mattera made a crack about msnbc and Dick Armey just made another one. I guess Rachael and Keith are getting to them. I also guess they have never viewed Joe Scarborough's show.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Does is minstrel show for the Klu Klux Tea.
White tea has been very popular these last few years.
Conspiracy?
☻♪♫K-K-K-Ktea, beautiful Ktea. Your the only one that I adore!♪♫♥
I didn't know you could sing. :)
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Trying to 'manage' or 'incorporate' the tea bag set is like giving a rabid puppy dog to your kids.
We've seen far too many of these 'independent' voters go off the reservation, shooting it out with police, or gunning down doctors in church.
I had a friend's mom do that when we were kids. She wanted to have a rabies party so none of us would get it as adults.
were unable to attend.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Oh no I was there. Now at rabies parties, I'm the puppy.
Oh, please, for the love of Cthulhu, tell me that's a joke...
I know people do that with chicken pox. I've known people who are stupid enough to think that would be a good idea with rabies. I've known people who pop an antibiotic for hangover, jet lag, just about anything.
and i just love watching steele play house negro
... this sure is a great country. Yassuh.
Tea Party doesn't have leaders so anyone with 'gravitas' gets to spin with authority. Lisa Miller talks like corporate interests have their stake in this. So where's Reverend Billy in all this?
""How many of you have watched the movie Lonesome Dove?," asked one speaker from the podium. "What happened to Jake when he ran with the wrong crowd?"
Everything they do, every thought they have, seems to be based on something they saw on tv. Seriously, their entire world view is based on fictitious tv shows and a pre-schooler's grasp of American History - and the media is treating this like a legitimate political movement. Scary. Pretty fucking scary.
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
'Cause after they're done shooting abortion doctors and burning witches, they'll be hanging reporters from trees.
"shooting abortion doctors and burning witches"
and paling around with witch doctors
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIOD5X68lIs
Don't let them get a hold of this movie.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0004972/
It will give them ideas.
They are CHILDREN. "When I grow up, I'm not going to make my kids pay any stupid taxes and junk."
C'mon, these people couldn't spell "CPAC" if it weren't plastered everywhere. Hardcore conservatives remind me of the Bill Hicks bit about reading in a Waffle House. "Well, looks like we got ourselves a reader..."
We are seeing the first generation where Education was gutted by twelve years of Reagan, and the Glowing Rectangular God is one's primary parent, teacher, and storyteller (and possibly friend). It's a sad and scary place.
If the Teabaggers fall in line and join the GOP, will Fox be p.o.'d that their astroturf movement failed and start criticizing the GOP? On the other hand, if they strike out on their own, is it a confirmation that Fox is actually calling the shots instead of the GOP? Or are they all just a bunch of whackaloons that can't think ahead that many moves?
Oh, I love it. Nothin' but anglo-saxon mother's sons and daughters being led by flush's own "Magic Negro" Michael Steele....ha,ha,ho,ho,this ain't a gonna work for those fat cat republicans......the Magic Negro leads the white racists?....Where's Clayton Bigsby? Where's Clayton Bigsby?....I'm rollin' in laughter...they look so serious.......racists...bah, humbug.They can't even cook a good burrito or make a good tequila...You are what you eat.......arrest these terrorists.....nothin' but chips and dips.
♥ is in the mail. :P
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Kinda reminds me of a bit in the book Goldfinger. Government bureaucrats are dickering on whether or not they need an intelligence agency, or a squad of hit men, so soon after WWII, that to help pull their weight they're given additional duties.
So while James Bond is working graveyard service in the office, answering phone calls with questions from various foreign offices, he gets a phone call from the canteen asking if he wanted anything to eat. Of course nothing hot since the cooks had already long gone home.
Bond orders a platter of sandwiches. When they ask him if he wants tea he spits out, "Lord no, tea is just liquid mud."
His comment goes around the intelligence unit so fast, that in short order, everytime someone wanted tea with their lunch in the canteen, they'd order liquid mud.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
"If the DNC held meetings with a liberal activist coalition that said the GOP are Nazis, traitors and not born in America, the media would be going crazy, and Fox News would be calling them psychos."
There seems to be an ingrained feeling that even if these Tea Party nuts seem extremist,their core values-God,Country,Apple Pie etc-somehow "prove" otherwise.
Naturally,Liberals (all radicals with no moderate to far left gradient)possess none of these traditional values..
Liberals really aren't even allowed to espouse patriotic feelings.
It's met with a kind of ticked off impatience.
We haven't invested anywhere near the energy that conservatives have in pretending to seem patriotic,which apparently "proves" we are less patriotic.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
They pretend to be christians, they pretend to be public servants, they pretend that they have not been bribed for their votes, they pretend to be human beings, hell in one survey 13 % of the people said GW Bush was the best fake president we had.
The GOP is made up entirely of pretenders. All pertending to be something other then what they really are.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!
"We have no head, we will never have a head" quote the teabagger
But they do posess the single mindedness to continue down the same path no matter how bad it has failed. That is why I have come to the conlusion that republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness!
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