Pastor Drake Prays For Obama's Death. I'm not kidding you
By John Amato Friday Jun 12, 2009 5:31am
There are many people who are full-on crackpots who try to hide who they are behind religion. I don't want to hear anything more ever said about morals or values coming from them.
Colmes: ...you then said, I asked for whom else are you praying in that fashion and you said President Obama. Are you praying for his death?
Drake: Yes.
Colmes: So you're praying for the death of the president of the United States?
Drake: Yes. Are you concerned that by saying that you might find yourself on some secret service call or FBI most wanted list. Do you think it's appropriate to say something like that or even pray for something like that?
Drake: I think it's appropriate to pray for the will of God. I'm not saying anything, what I'm doing is repeating what God is saying, if that puts me on somebodies list then I'll just have to be on their list.
Colmes: You would like for the president of the United States to die?
Drake: If he does not turn to God and does not turn his life around I am asking God to enforce in imprecatory prayers throughout the scripture that would cause him death, that's correct.
Oh, it's God that's saying it, OK, I feel better now. What a freak. He also was a running mate with inmate Alan Keyes and said this about Dr. Tiller:
A former Southern Baptist Convention officer who on June 2 called the death of abortion provider George Tiller an answer to prayer said later in the day he is also praying "imprecatory prayer" against President Obama.
Wiley Drake, pastor of First Southern Baptist Church in Buena Park, Calif., and former running mate of American Independent Party presidential candidate Alan Keyes, said June 2 on Fox News Radio he didn't understand why people were upset with his comments quoted by Associated Baptist Press from a webcast of his daily radio talk show.
Drake said he didn't pray for Tiller to be murdered -- only that God would take his life by some method -- but that he "absolutely" believed that God wanted the doctor dead.
Here's what it says on his homepage:
Join us on the "Wiley Drake in Buena Park" show Monday thru Thursday at 9:00 to 10:00 A.M. California time. www.crusaderadio.com
The theme of the show is Do Justice, Love Mercy, and Walk with God. This theme is based on Micah 6:8 and Matthew 23:23.
In his case I guess mercy means that he hopes President Obama dies...
You can see what he looks like in this clip.
Pastor Wiley Drake in action at the Orange County Board of Supervisors meeting on March 10, 2009 as he attacks Planned Parenthood and Obama.
He's also a birther and calls President Obama an illegal alien.
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That asshole needs to be arrested.
he's a southern baptist.
...are not usually this far right-wing (I used to be one, for a little while.) Not compared to the Pentecostals and other speaking-in-tongues, snake-handling sects.
But I agree, Lib, he should indeed be arrested as an accomplice in the death of Dr. Tiller as well as for uttering a viable threat against POTUS.
against that and all other religions!
and the majority may not be this outspoken...or as radical...
but remember, for a very long time, the southern baptist church was whites only.
And this asshole preacher looks like he's from that time.
I was raised up regularly going to a Baptist church here in Chicago the first fifteen years of my life. As I grew older and witnessed my fellow congregants horrific hypocrisy, I ran like a fugitive in a jail break from those sick mother fuckers...and I have never been back. Pastor Drake is the kind of deeply religous man who would have given a prayer before a lynching.
That's exactly the kind of religious whacko this POS is.
to be arrested for a prayer? So you acknowledge Gods power on earth, otherwise he has done no crime.
That's pretty lame, I would have expected a smarter reply from you.
for the compliment. But its not that lame when you think about it, all he could be charged with is conspiracy, and only that if you acknowledge the existence of god. If he prayed to god for the death of Obama and there is no god there is no conspiracy. If you state there is a conspiracy than you tactically admit the existence of god. Or do you think I should be found guilty if I wished Obama dead? Which I don't, my personal opinion is that Biden would be a total disaster rather than a major one.
... a master race for a white supremacist conspiracy to exist?
And the word you were looking for, I think, was TACITLY.
But, back to the point - God does not need to exist in order for Drake's conspiracy to exist or prosper; all that is needed are people who believe as he does, in a divine being who has not only given authority to the good pastor, but which smiles upon their efforts on his behalf.
The priests who run the temple have the power.
a bit here.
I'm sure there's a lawyer out there who can find a precedent to charge this man with somethin akin to treason. What he's done is NO different than an Imam praying for Allah to smite the infidel Americans. Except that he's an American focusing his hate on Obama. You don't find anything wrong with that?
Interesting.
This hate speech is getting out of hand.
I think, this preacher, has crossed the line, and he must at the very least be forced to step down by his own congregation.
Oh, and whoever prosecutes this asshole, will do just fine without god even entering the courtroom.
your right, what he has done is not different than a Imam, except when they tell their parishioners to strap on a vest full of explosives and meet 27 virgins. If a Imam just prayed for Allah to destroy the infidels I wouldn't have a problem with them, when they encourage their flock to do so is when I do.
inherent danger in what this preacher is doing, by "praying" for Obama's death.
How long before radical xtians start blowing shit up?
The xtian terrorist have already started TJBB...haven't you been watching the news?
And really...dude...semantics.
The very act of him praying thusly in front of his flock IS encouraging them.
You're splitting hairs.
... he is just looking for enough ammo to make this f*cking prick of a pastor to be the "victim" in this whole mess.
Of course, he is neglecting to mention that the Christian MO is different from the Mulsim approach. Pastors "pray to god to do something about it" which is their codeword for their followers to "do something about it."
Although I am enjoying, in a perverse kind of way, to see some people in this thread trying to turn "prayer for violence" into a free speech issue. I mean, talk about intellectual dishonesty. Christians always find an excuse, always. Heck... no wonder they have gotten with their shit for almost 2 millennia.
"infidels" and a specific person.
You lose this time. I can't buy your arguments at all, not thus far anyway. Maybe there's more below?
As a teacher, would it be OK for me to tell students I wish the school principal dead, and my disrespect influences them to do something about it. But I am innocent?? I just say I wished him dead, but don't look at me cuz of some crazy kids.
The crime is the pastor hiring a hitman. Doesn't matter if the hitman is real, or an undercover cop, or an imaginary, bearded sky daddy. The pastor's crime is real.
Unless, of course, he recants and says it's not a crime because he knows his god is a scam created to drain cash from the gullible.
The preacher could easily be charged with "Incitement to Violence" -- a very real criminal charge. All it takes is a person in authority (preacher) telling someone "ready and able to carry out the crime" that the outcome is worthy. Bonus points if the listener is simple-minded or otherwise susceptible to the speaker's influence.
The charge of Incitement has been used often enough in the past, and the hate-mongers know it. This rightwing rabble-rousing is getting out of hand, and it's time for some indictments. I hope the justice department follows through.
"PITTSBURGH (AP) — A Pittsburgh man has been convicted of killing another man whose body has never been found."
or a slice of cheese is an expression of a desire for an act...which by definition implies intent...either to foment such an act or commit it yourself...and that is prosecutable under the law.
And by your definition...Islamic fundamentalists praying to Allah for the death of America...is simply then just a prayer...not justifcation for a "war on terror".
the right to do "God's work?"
concept of conspiracy.
Whether god does or does not exists is besides the point. The point is, this person believes that god exists and he asked god to kill Obama. This is like asking an assassin to kill someone. He believes he is asking a favor from a real entity, an entity he believes has the power to do so without any repercussions.
And that's not even taking into consideration that this person's congregation might have some real nutjobs as members. One of them might start thinking that god commanded him to kill Obama because his pastor prayed for it.
Should he be arrested? Hell yeah. A public figure like this pastor publicly calling/praying for the death of anyone is criminal. If he has the balls to pray for the death of the president, imagine what he can do to a member of his congregation who does not follow his tenets? What sort of emotional and psychological damage can he do? Nutjobs like this guy shouldn't be allowed in the outside world. Yes we have freedom of speech, but with freedom comes responsibility. And this guy is way beyond irresponsible.
As a pastor, Drake's acknowledgement of God and His Authority is a given ... and relevant only to the Pastor's character and his role in teaching/spreading the Word of God.
Do I need to believe the same things as Drake to hold him accountable under the law? I think not. Courts routinely issue judgments on matters involving faith and belief, without any such prerequisite. Even Atheist Michael Newdow, granted the rare privilege of arguing his case before the Supreme Court, was shown the door.
And does the success of 19 hijackers on 9/11 mean Allah has power on Earth, or that God was napping? Are terrorists who preach hate and wish ill upon America guilty of a crime, or do they also enjoy the protection of divine favor?
in a courtroom.
Not a damn prayer.
...I pray that your heart stops in excruciating pain as you troll.
are no better than Drake? And should be charged with a crime?
...sometimes being a "devils advocate" is the equivalent of eating warm shit on the side of a road on a hot summer's day.
your a worm eating shit? I might agree with that.
I will never give a fuck what Conservatives think...to me, you're a Conservative.
not really a Conservative more a libertarian, and I'm not trying to give you the guilty's, just pointing out the hypocrisy of a shit eating worm, although I feel bad denigrating the worm so, they do great work under the soil which is why I just had 3 lbs of them shipped to me for my garden.
... funny how conservatism is such a tainted word now that the clusterf*ck you visited upon us is too large to even pretend to hide it.
No wonder, you guys spent so much effort trying to turn "liberal" into a curse word. Projection is like second nature for your side of the political spectrum...
It is funny, when I am reminded by a good friend of mine who stated that a "libertarian" is a person whose main asset is being an asshole and is trying desperately to capitalize on that fact. So I am no surprised you came rushing to defend a fellow asshole.
Libertarians are only republicans who want to smoke weed?
"Libertarians are republicans who want to smoke weed AND get laid. "
liberals are conservatives in sheeps clothing nowadays. And libertarians care about more than smoking weed. Although I am for legalization of it even though I no longer partake.
Get your terminology straight!
Liberals = Fascists!
Jonah Goldberg said so!
Jonah Goldberg = Douchebag
NO...I take that back...
Jonah Goldberg = Closeted Douchebag
damn...no...no...
Jonah Goldberg = Closeted Ignorant Douchebag
wow.
first time I've heard that one.
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So now liberals are "conservatives." I mean for a bunch of guys so hell bent in shovelling "personal responsibility" down our throats, you guys sure are experts at passing the buck.
When reality goes against your perception, you simply make up your own, right?
There is an adjective that represents most of the libertarians I know: delusional. I see I wasn't that far off looking at your response.
liberals are conservatives in sheeps clothing nowadays.
I like these broad generalisations; just like I can now say, Americans are for torture and raping young children. Cuz ya are Blanche, ya are.
"Liberals are conservatives in sheep's clothing?" I dare you to try to explain that statement.
You mean Timbobbillyjoe, right?
has committed a crime?
I don't think he has, but by the line of thought of the people on here LnL has.
You're defense of this preacher has changed my perception of you...
And not for the better.
Good day to you.
defending what he says, I'm defending his right to his religion and his right to think and say what he feels. Isn't that what most progressives are for? Why do you have a problem with that? I wish no one to death. But if this guy wants to pray for it thats his business not mine.
We'd be in agreement.
But this is not protected speech TJBB...it's hate speech, plain and simple.
You stated that Pastor Drake had said nothing wrong. And then added the amazing non sequitur of if he had, that just proves the existence of god.
If you believe in God, do you have issues with Pastor Drake representing God and the message of Christ Jesus in this manner?
If you don't believe in God, do you have issues with Pastor Drake making false representations about a non-existant sky fairy visiting just vengeance (under the terms of a book full of false gobbledygook, since God doesn't exist) against the duly elected President and Commander-in-Chief of our armed forces?
...providing he could comprehend.
With all of the prevailing threats of violence on this President coupled with the murder of Dr.Tiller(in church), Timmybobtroll plays apologist for a world class religious hypocrite who is knowingly inciting racist and religious psychopathic sleeper cells just waiting for "God's signal"...all of course while hiding behind the first amendment and expressing his religious freedom by ordering a fatwa on the President. What a jerk.
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stated he said nothing wrong. I stated that if you felt he said something illegal you admitted the existence of God.
Yes I believe in god, but I don't believe Drake represented God, he stated his belief and prayed to God to act on that belief.
And regardless of my belief of not, he has his right to believe as he sees fit, same as myself or yourself, if you wish to pray to baal, shiva, satan, thor or the green goddess to strike me dead that is your choice, when you tell people to do so, that is where the problem starts.
Drake is telling his followers that it's okay to go after the POTUS, and that there's glory in it.
His fringe-group knucklehead followers are ready and able to do the crime, and easily influenced by their Dear Leader.
Drake should be charged with Incitement to Violence. May he rot in jail.
He's threatening regicide (best term I can think of), not deicide.
The object of the threat is Obama and there's plenty of proof he exists, as do also those like Dr. Tiller's killer and the killer at the Jewish memorial center.
agree that he is telling his followers to commit assassination, he is telling them to pray for the Lord to take his life, which is different. And he is not threatening him, he is asking God to do what he thinks he should do.
believe they are the tools of god?
Kinda takes the air out of your argument.
Christians can be used by god as his hand, but only upon his desire, just because someone claims to be acting upon his wishes doesn't make it a fact.
TJBB
How exactly DOES one discern from those who actually carry out gods will, and those who only claim too.
If one of these unhinged rightwing biblethumpers follows drakes.."prayer"...was he an instrument of god, or just a crazy asshole?
Negate the whole 'free will' thing? I mean, isn't it rather convenient if God's Will and my own match up so nicely?
Wouldn't you agree that such alignment is possible only when you are willing to surrender your desires to those of God? How does Pastor Drake fit his views in with that?
was also into genocide.
Again, we are dealing with the sin that cannot be forgive. I think it is pretending to know what is in God's mind.
claims that God needs money. Pathetic.
Is any god at our command
Drake thinks God should do?
He's calling for Obama's death.
goawd has nothin to do with this.
... routinely denigrate my belief in Christ Jesus by asking God to either kill someone or bring about circumstances wherein that person's death should manifest, that part of your proposition is entirely academic.
Which allows me to say that I can enjoy the free expression of my faith without wishing - through prayer or otherwise - harm to befall a sitting (or, for that matter, a former) president, and can therefore offer the opinion that Pastor Drake's words are inappropriate to the expression of Christianity, and to his role as a spokesman for God from the pulpit.
do not ask god to kill another. But my free expression of belief shouldn't effect anothers. If someone else wishes to call upon their god to strike me or another dead that is their right.
... a pastor, the spiritual leader of his congregation. His role is to offer guidance and spiritual nourishment, not hatred and wishes for another to come to harm.
I would think that's a little different from a kid chanting 'step on a crack, break your mother's back.'
he is the spiritual leader of his congregation. His tole is to offer what guidance and spiritual nourishment his parishioners desire, if that is love and peace or hate and intolerance that is up to them.
That is absurd.
TJBB
Or you're just being contrary.
The difference is that this POS drake. has power, because he's a so called, "man of god" and his flock listens...
You don't see the danger?
Or are you turning a blind eye to it, because maybe you agree with this asshole?
It's a good idea that anyone let alone a man of God, should do it? I hate Bush, Cheney, and their ilk, but I do not pray for death upon them. I pray for justice upon them.
So why is he in prison? He didn't go out and kill with the "family". He just told them to go and do something "witchy". Doesn't seem fair that they were going to execute him for exercising his right of free speech. Well, at least I understand where you are coming from. FREE CHARLIE!
sarcasm: off
Praying is not just restricted to a christian god. He may be praying to his congregation that one of them do the job.
do with legal matters. Is that clear enough for you?
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...is exhibited in the actions of men; so, when some wingnut follows through and kills someone because he heard this preacher's words and was just following the command of God, it's his freedom of religion-- is that really what you're saying?
You, sir, are an idiot.
DON'T BE STUPID! This freak show NEEDS to be ARRESTED because he is PREACHING TO ROOMS FULL OF FREAKS who will DO HIS BIDDING at a moments NOTICE. IT IS ILLEGAL TO THREATEN THE LIFE OF THE PRESIDENT! PERIOD! And I don't care whether the freak is a "PREACHER" or a wino on a street corner, if he's got so much as an audience of ONE who is of a MIND to follow up on his "suggestion" that he/she/it kill the president then that puts, not ONLY the president, but all around him, including his wife and CHILDREN at RISK. He and ALL LIKE HIM need to be arrested as they are ALL a danger to anyone who doesn't believe what THEY do.
This is the biggest EXAMPLE of the PHONINESS of the PRETEND "Pro-Life" "movement". They are always the FIRST to call for MURDER.
he is praying that God strike him dead, that is not quite the same as encouraging his parishioners to assassinate him. He never threatened the life of Obama or encouraged others to take his life. He just prayed that god would strike his vengeance on him. If you disagree with that you are in violation of the 1st amendment
what he's doing TJBB, he IS encouraging his parishioners to asssasinate Obama...because this brand of religious nutjobs will have at least one to do their "gods bidding".
No different than Islamic terrorists.
Twist it around all you like...Hate speech is NOT protected.
... Osama bin Laden / Ayman al-Zawahiri. They routinely call for Allah to wreak his vengeance upon America.
Free speech, right?
Do we need to wait for another Roeder or von Brunn or the whackadoodle out of Utah to score a hit before we acknowledge that Pastor Drake's words are unacceptable in both civil terms and from the pulpit?
Everyone here is expressing their first admendment rights in reponse to that devil worshipping mother fucker.
And BTW, go fuck youself.
So, it's perfectly okay for anyone to go on television and say that they're praying for your death?
In the Bible, Jesus talks about those that pray... He said that the man who speaks from his heart out of the public eye, his prayers have more weight or smell sweeter than the one on the street corner trying to get attention while he prays.
... do not pray in public like the hypocrites do, but instead, go into your room and pray in private. And your Father, hearing you in private, shall reward you openly.
And when you pray, these are the words you shall use: Our Father, who art in heaven ..."
How can everyone see how pious they are?
I'm just a monkey... I forgot that religious faith is supposed to be shown on your sleeve for all to see.
Yes...like sports teams jerseys!
I agree, although I do pray in public when I go with my wife to church.
'Hallowed by thy name, thy kingdom come, they will be done, on earth as it is in heaven, give us this day our daily bread, and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us, and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, for thine is the mercy, the power, the glory, amen."
In a house of worship that's fine... as long as you're trying not show off.
Drake's views:
- Disrespect God's name.
- Imply that God's will is that Obama die/be killed.
- Strongly suggest that our daily bread is hate.
- Forgive nothing, therefore, Drake should not be forgiven.
- Succumb to the temptation and easy path of hatred
- Submits to evil, rather than seeks deliverance.
- Shows no mercy.
- Considers God's power a trifle with which to fiddle about with and smite people he doesn't like.
- Do not add to the glory of God.
if your preacher prayed for Obama's death?
if people want to pray for my death, fine by me. If they try to take my life I will defend it though.
The Bible and many of it's modern believers are full of "wannabe martyrs," and this "minister" knows it.
you preach to and call the President a transgressor and pray for his death, it would just be coincidence if someone followed the Bible's direction to kill a transgressor? It is repeatedly called for in the Bible. For example, it was specifically ordered by God in Deuteronomy 17:2-3,5, and Jesus who claimed to be the earlier God of the Bible specifically said he didn't come to change the laws.
say it was a coincidence, it could either be a whacked out psycho or it could be gods will. But on earth one is subject to mans laws. But I don't feel mans laws should apply to what one thinks.
... what's the difference between Pastor Drake and some nut in a bar saying, "I think Obama needs to be whacked!"
And if there's a Scott Roeder or James von Brunn sitting next to said nut, and they raise their glass in a toast while exclaiming, "That's what I'm talking about! Yeah!"
Meanwhile, if man's laws shouldn't apply to what we think, why is it that Rep. Paul Broun wants a 'Year of the Bible,' or Rep. Steve King wanted (and got) a resolution recognizing the importance of Christmas and Christianity?
I continue to find it amazing that you have no qualms whatsoever with the good pastor.
Pastor Drake wasn't saying he though Obama needs to be whacked. He prayed that god would enforce his will. Small but important difference.
And how about Hawaii's day of Islam?
And I never said I have no qualms with him, I have said its his right to worship how he believes.
in the Bible, God commands his faithful to do the whacking. Is this complicated for you?
... saying Obama needs to die.
"I'm just repeating what God says."
But nonetheless washing his hands of any responsibility should 'God's Will' happen to manifest in someone who has heard his statement and decided, like Scott Roeder or James von Brunn, that it is time to act.
Cain tried this approach when he smacked Abel upside the head with a rock. "Am I my brother's keeper?"
Um, yes, we are, and Christ reminds us that when he was hungry, we gave him food; when he was homeless, shelter; when he was naked, clothes. For whatever you do unto the least of my flock, you do unto me.
I submit that a Christian, in good faith and of good conscience, cannot possibly find Pastor Drake's words to be acceptable, yet you continue to cling to the flimsiest of excuses for not denouncing his words or deeds.
And I'm not aware of Hawaii's 'Day of Islam' being a call to jihad or the slaughtering of the duly-elected POTUS.
does THAT have to do with ANYTHING?
LMAO...
You're arguments failing TJBB...not that it was very strong to begin with.
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Disagreement is also covered by the 1st amendment.
Democracy means we don't have to listen to a lecture we don't want to; we can shout it down.
This isn't church.
but you can shout it down, I don't feel that it should be illegal to say it.
... we enter into social contracts all the time when we visit forums, use online services/social networking, and so on.
So why are there such laws/EULAs/TOS's if we're such an enlightened bunch?
your rights end where mine begin and visa versa , the laws and such that you mentioned are referring to private property. I have a right to limit what you say on my property, and you have a right to leave my property if you don't like the rules.
... public safety also plays a role here? You can't yell 'fire' in a crowded theater, but it's not the rights of the theater owner that are being upheld - it's the safety of others.
The right to free speech and freedom of religion is subject to the same civil understanding as we enter into under other circumstances. When one exceeds the bounds of decency and/or public safety, we should certainly expect some form of corrective action.
Actually it's not so much private property issues at work here, but public accomodations, which usually involve hotels, restaurants, and places for entertainment, however most definitions usually include some reference to other gathering places.
If the "minister" lived on the property, it wouldn't include the vestry, but could include the sanctuary. They already have precedent with the tax codes regarding churches, and the endorsing of political candidates from the pulpit.
about the law. You know nothing. You do NOT have the right to limit what anyone says on your property. You have the right to ask people to leave your property if you don't like what they say. Your third grade understanding is laughable.
Who me?
ysbaddaden's comprehension of free speech is far beyond third grade understanding, savannah43. You're the one in the wrong, and you are VERY wrong.
You have every right in the world to limit what someone says on your property. An employer has every right to limit what is said in the workplace.
The First Amendment:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
It does not say that all speech is absolutely protected all the time, and the court has ruled on many occasions to that effect. And it specifically says "the government shall make no laws," not that private citizens have no capability to make rules and regulations regarding speech.
Oh, and incidentally, did it not occur to you that asking someone to leave your property if you don't like what they're saying IS limiting their speech? Idiot.
Uh, yeah you do have the right to curtail someone's speech, as long as you aren't the govt, and there are caveats in that, as well, decisions handed down by the courts, most notably SCOTUS, throughout the age of the Bill of Rights.
And look at blogs whose mods clean up the sites, or the owners. It's their blog, their property, their rules.
I don't think he's committed a crime. I think he's an asshole. As the Brits say, simply, "it's just not done."
Sometimes a bit of common sense is all that's needed. Wishing Obama dead to your congregation is one of those "not done" things, not in civilized society. The Brits use a lot more common sense than Americans do. That's why America is often thought of as trashy. (Cuz it is.)
You know the Oscar Wilde one, "America is the only nation to go from barbarism to decadence, without the civilization in between."
America would be a lot better off if people realized for men to live together, peacefully, certain protocols are highly recommended. That's what makes great civilisations. Otherwise, you're stuck with what you've got.
As it is, you come across as a peevish bunch of juveniles that act on your every whim. That's why you need to have so many "rules", otherwise society could not function with all these whackos doing what they wish, with no consideration for others.
The idea of society and civilisation is for people to be mature enough to co-exist in peace, by reigning themselves in, not because the Congress has to make laws about how to conduct oneself.
What if God loves Obama and hates you toads?
others. And maybe the sin that cannot be forgiven is pretending you know God's will. Why don't you acknowledge that?
why does the media pull these freaks out from under their rocks and display their idiocy to the masses...
just for ratings?
A fine example of the usefulness and intelligence behind radical faith.
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Fatwa anyone?
rash limpballs is a fat wad.
I thought a fatwa was an overstuffed gyro.
I live in hardcore Christian territory, and it's easy to feel your will is breaking to the localized theological argumentum ad populare, but then someone like this makes the news, and I can happily flagellate my simian.
May I quote you on that?
Trying to polish my helmet?
Floggin the Bishop?
Whenever I see a monk's ass I just grab it
Said a mildly amorous abbot
But it's vastly more fun
To make it with a nun
But it's harder to get into the habit.
I love this. Taking it to the choir on Sunday!
Try this:
When I see a monk's bum I just grab it
Said a wickedly amorous abbot
But it's vastly more fun
To roger a nun
Though it's harder to get into the habit.
Wouldn't that make him a jolly roger?
really do need a good rogering! lol
...under armed (one arm salute?) in this debate. You have my sincere apologies...
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Pro-life.
Pro life, pro death penalty. It's just a matter of timing.
people, but if anyone wants to die in their own terms (euthanasia) they will come out of the woodwork to fight against your wishes.
Which got me thinking, maybe the best defense for someone in death row... is to declare their wish to be euthanized the day they are supposed to be executed. I wonder if the pro-life crowd will come out en masse trying to stop the execution.
That's sheer genius!
Do not put that bottle in front of me
just give this nut a frontal labotamy.
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In Frankenstein's lab?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDHoTOgeNWE
Mr. Greeen Jeeeeeans!
IF that is indeed your REAL name!
Stole my line!
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...in the dictionary that goes far enough in saying how disgusting this thing is, but it certainly isn't human.
The transcript needs work.
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Here's a bumpersticker I'd like to see the fundies use:
Let Me Sect You Up.
How bout one for abortion clinics:
"No Fetus ever Beat us"
So many people (mistakenly) see Obama's presidency as some kind of comment on the end of racism, yet its hard to see the level of insanity bubbling up and focused on Obama being so vile and potentially violent if he were white.
In November and January when all the talking heads were declaring the "end of racism" I remember thinking "This is not the end, not by far." We're in for a long haul.
Obama's presidency will bring out the true, dyed in the wool racists.
And then we will know who they are.
Exactly. Even with the civil rights movement, these racists were still able to point to high levels of poverty and incarceration in black folk and feel superior to the black man. They were able to look at the head of nearly every major corporation and feel superior to the black man. They were able to look at the vast majority of gov't and feel superior to the black man. Blacks may be able to eat at their lunch counter but BY GOD THE WHITE MAN IS STILL IN CHARGE. With this election, their entire world view has been shot to shit. When that happens to people who already have no power in their lives, they get angry and violent, and they get that way quickly. Give them people like this guy and Beck saying that yes, they are right to hate this Negro who has the NERVE to think he's as good as a white man, and that's all the encouragement they need to lash out.
And it's just getting started too.
we won't have to compete with them for power, either.
not the end of racism, its more of a evening of racism. Black and White are now equal.
I don't think...
but a hell of alot closer.
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