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Obama-serious_5ecba.jpg It looks like President Obama has been reading our blogs and is finally going to use his bully pulpit to do directly to the American people to explain his stimulus plan on his terms.
President Obama will significantly ramp up his salesmanship of his economic stimulus plan over the next week with a prime time news conference planned for Monday and an address from the Oval Office on the topic also being considered.
I've said repeatedly that the Republicans are forgetting that Obama is an incredible communicator and when Obama does use it, they will pay. If the media hadn't acted so irresponsibly the past two weeks and President Obama hadn't tried to be so bipartisan, he might not have had to take to the airwaves, but that's not the case anymore. As Michael Hirsh says:
The reason Obama is getting so few votes is that he is no longer setting the terms of the debate over how to save the economy. Instead the Republican Party—the one we thought lost the election—is doing that. And the confusion and delay this is causing could realize Obama's worst fears, turning "crisis into a catastrophe," as the president said Wednesday. Obama's desire to begin a "post-partisan" era may have backfired. In his eagerness to accommodate Republicans and listen to their ideas over the past week, he has allowed the GOP to turn the haggling over the stimulus package into a decidedly stale, Republican-style debate over pork, waste and overspending. This makes very little economic sense when you are in a major recession that only gets worse day by day. {} The decisive issue here is leadership. The lack of it is what is plaguing the Obama administration. Every war needs a successful general, and this administration doesn't have one yet.
Digby repsonds:
I think the administration thought they could be mediators between the two parties rather than leaders of the Democratic party. That just won't work, particularly when the Democrats aren't very good at battling the Republicans in close combat and the Republicans can make those who stay above the fray seem lightweight and insubstantial, which is what they've managed to do. They've showed they don't respect Obama and are unimpressed with his mandate --- the administration needs to accept that and strategize with that in mind. He said today that bipartisanship for bipartisanship's sake is not desirable. He should just drop that whole schtick. He can have the cocktail parties and the get-togethers and talk to them all he wants. And if they happen to have a good idea (very doubtful) then fine. But they are going to represent their narrow interests because that's what they believe their constituents want. That's the way the system works. They aren't partners, they're political adversaries and they remain adversaries even when there is an emergency at hand. Accept that and fight it out on the merits.
I was hoping for the Republicans to obstruct him like they have so he would stop serving them cookies and crumpets to try and coax the right wing punditocracy to help him pass his legislation. That was never going to happen. Republican Pete Sessions said that the House Republicans are the new Taliban now. I kid you not..
That's when Texas Rep. Pete Sessions compared House Republicans to the Taliban, the fundamentalist Muslim terrorist group that has targeted U.S. troops in Afghanistan. Sessions' staff insists he wasn't lauding the Taliban's goals, only their tactics. See what you think:
Insurgency we understand perhaps a little bit more because of the Taliban. And that is that they went about systematically understanding how to disrupt and change a person's entire processes. And these Taliban -- I'm not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban -- no, that's not what we're saying. I'm saying an example of how you go about is to change a person from their messaging to their operations to their front line message. And we need to understand that insurgency may be required when the other side, the House leadership, does not follow the same commands, which we entered the game with.
At least he didn’t use a Nazi metaphor. Sessions should apologize immediately for this statement. How insane is it that Sessions identifies his own party with the group that housed Osama Bin Laden? I thought they wanted to catch Bin Laden, not be like him. Are the Taliban going to run ads now that say I want to be like Bin Laden? So the American Taliban (House Republicans) want President Obama to fail and they will act like the Taliban to do it. I saw the press asking Gibbs if Obama was dropping bipartisanship earlier today. When will the press ask the New Taliban why they want to be associated with our enemies in battle. This has been a big lesson for President Obama. May he learn it well.


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That is the Republican talking point... calling it a stimulus plan.. please read it... HE CALLS IT RECOVERY...

Getting more in debt to get out of a recession? Think about it.

Recovery plan, Stimulus plan, call it whatever you wish. The fact of the matter is this, there is too much pork in it. $600 million to replace a portion of the federal government vehicle fleet. $355 million for education related to sexually transmitted diseases. $200 million to monitor earthquakes and volcanoes. $276 million for new computers at the State Department. ATV Trails!!!, I mean come on, trim the pork and get a real package.

On a side note, The population of the United States now stands at well over 500 million..... since we lose that many jobs per month according to the Speaker.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8hMJVXt09E just in case people may not know, the population is currently estimated at a little over 300 million currently...

Where is THIS story?

So you are in favor of:

STDs?
Inefficients Government Vehicles?
Being surprised by earthquakes and volcanoes?
Abacuses at the State Department?

Just askin.

he might not have been able to credibly take to the airwaves,

You have a shitty browser. lol

Quit complaining about democrats and start fighting republicans. Too many commentators are being childish and whining what they didn't get and the republicans are walking all over them.

Quit being the minority and the loser. Start calling out republicans for speaking trash and start supporting democrats with praise and not critical moans, whinnings and catcalls.

Party over country is exactly what got us in this mess...

If a dem compared his party to the Taliban? There would be a flaming-torch wielding mob screaming for his blood outside his office.

The airwaves would feature nothing but his comment on a loop for 72 hours straight.

they would have plenty of spin heads doing just that...

I am tired of seeing Dems on TeeVee all too quick to excuse their fellow conservatives.

That taliban comment alone, could have been used by an efficient political organization to sink their adversaries. If the Dems knew what they were doing, the GOP would be so toxic after that f*cking stupid Taliban comment they would have to rename their party and change their mascot only to go the way of the wigs.

But, surely I am willing to bet a case of beer that I will see at least a couple of Dems defusing the situation saying how the Taliban comment was taken out of context.

Amato says:

I've said repeatedly that the Republicans are forgetting that Obama is an incredible communicator and when Obama does use it, they will pay.

When Obama steps back and thinks about what is happening (read Jeremiah Wright) he cannot be beat. The Republicans will rue the day they tried to obstruct Obama, they will lose and lose big. They will lose their seats in the Senate and The House. Just wait. Did you see what Barbara Boxer said to Lindsey Graham today in the Senate?

Are the Taliban going to run ads now that say I want to be like Bin Laden?

No, they are going to run ads saying they want to be like the Republicans. Haha

Ha!

The taliban WISH they had the repubs gift for propaganda.

Now that the GOP has clearly shown that their definition of bipartisanship means continue to mismanage the government and destroy the country like the GOP has been doing for the past 8+ years, Obama can take off the gloves! In a much less dire situation, Reagan was able to rally the public and put a solidly Dem Congress on the ropes. Those GOPers ought to be worried that after listening to Obama, they'll find crowds bearing tar, feathers and rails the next time they return home—the way things are going they ought to be worried about being greeted with crowds bearing pitchforks and torches.

"....he has allowed the GOP to turn the haggling over the stimulus package into a decidedly stale, Republican-style debate over pork, waste and overspending. This makes very little economic sense when you are in a major recession that only gets worse day by day."
So now pork, waste and overspending are a good thing? Here's an off the wall idea, why not come up with a stimulus bill that ELIMINATES pork, waste and overspending?

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Hey Dave, there may be pork but if it keeps people working it is worth it. The Republicans have bitched about spending money on schools. The have bitched about giving money to states to get things done that need to be done that the states cannot afford. I am absolutely sure that there are things that maybe should not be in there and hopefully most of it will be taken out between the Senate and the reconciliation between the Senate and the House but if they over spend it will be better than under spending. This is absolute fact at this point.

One man's pork is another man's stimulus. Look, when a Republican is saying pork they are only putting a label on something so that they can frame the debate. this thing is about spending as much as is needed to stimulate the economy. The biggest problem is not spending enough fast enough. Economists from both sides were saying this BEFORE the election and before Obama took office. There was never any debate until the Republicans decided that they were going to obstruct for the sake of obstructing. This economy is so screwed up that spending is the the only way and that is because the more they spend the more people are put to work or are able to keep their jobs. We are in a fee fall right now. It is a snowball effect. It has to be stopped and there is no time to explain it to people who have a hard time understanding.

"One man's pork is another man's stimulus."

Some men prefer lamb for stimulus.

)O(

I thought that was considered a sin

Unless you a republican Congressman

Unless you a republican Congressman

In which case its just another GOP "family value".

...until Obama threw the kitchen sink into his spending bill and the CBO came out and said it will take two years for Obmam's porcus maximus stimulus to reach main street.

Look, this is not rocket science. You allow the consumer to keep more of their hard-earned money by lowering their taxes and you pay for those lower taxes by reducing government spending. Do this and the recession will be ended in six months and you guys won't have to spend the rest of your future and the future of your children paying it all back.

ex animo
davidfarrar

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You said this word for word earlier on another thread, and it was devastated totally.

Methinks you never heard of Economy of Scale.

In fact, rocket science is paid for by the government through NASA, with taxpayer's money.

It's not rocket science.

Doubtless, you haven't mastered bottle-rockets yet.

Why don't you explain it to me in terms of Obama's Porcus Maximus Stimulus bill, please?

Because the bottom line is, the people have to be convinced the economy is on the right rack and it's alright for them to spend.

ex animo
davidfarrar

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Awesome response clip ys. Funny on at least three levels.

1. Elephant talk = Republican Speak
2. The song is about jibberish and bad communication
3. Is the kid trying to play the bass line on the wrong instrument supposed to represent david? If so, more brilliance.

And a great band.

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I'm drinkin' again.

Spending...
for every $1 you spend extending unemployment you get $1.64 back
$1 in infrastructure spending $1.59 back
$1 in General Aid to States $1.36 back

Tax Cuts
Non-refundable Lump sum rebate $1.02
Refundable Lump sum rebate $1.26

Do you want me to go on... cause it just gets worse????

let's get to the negative returns...

such as a cut on the corporate tax rate (.30 back)

or making bush's tax cuts permanent (.29 back)

etc., etc., etc.

What Moody.com put out from Mark Zandy.. that's where I got the info... I have it posted at my site.. and am just copying it to here...lol

it was just a voice of support for your effort....

the whole enchilada....

One year $ change in real GDP for a given $ reduction in federal tax revenue or increase in spending

Non-refundable lump-sum tax rebate 1.02
Refundable lump-sum tax rebate 1.26

Temporary tax cuts
payroll tax holiday 1.29
Across the board tax cut 1.03
Accelerated depreciation 0.27

Permanent tax cuts
Extend alternative minimum tax patch 0.48
Make Bush income tax cuts permanent 0.29
Make dividend and capital gains tax cuts permanent 0.37
Cut in corporate tax rate 0.30

Spending Increases
Extending UI benefits 1.64
Temporary increase in food stamps 1.73
General aid to state governments 1.36
Increased infrastructure spending 1.59

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:8S6QYv3XF...

yes... that would be the one .. why it is so hard for the republicans to accept it I can't understand when it is plain to see.

Thanks for the stats.

I just had an idea. If the G-obstructionist-Party threatens a filibuster, let's all send Harry Reid small containment devices so that the rethugs will have pots to piss in when they actually, not virtually but actually, have to filibuster by standing on the floor of the Senate. Maybe that would get Reid's attention. Make em sweat. Make em show America how empty their rhetoric really is before they push us over the cliff into a depression.

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Still no examples of pork, huh?

Obama's Porcus Maximus Stimulus Nice repug talking point, you must be a big fan of the ElDuchebo.

I think he simply says "porkulus" -- the simpleton.

ex animo
davidfarrar

He doesn't have that many fans out there, and your spelling tells me you might be chemically dependent.

It was ALL tax cuts with no price tag.

Yes

and what he neglected to tell you was that it caused the AMT to go up on a lot of it and would in effect be a tax increase instead of a tax cut...

is hundreds of thousands of foreclosed homes, millions out of work. Rich, richer.

Let's stop taxing individual labor as profit, which it isn't for the taxable year 2008 and use Obama's porcus maximus stimulus bill to simply fill in the gaps. No reduced taxes for corporations or the rich, just us little guys, the 96% of us who had jobs in 2008. by my calculations that should net around $1.1 trillion.

ex animo
davidfarrar

Fixing the economy and rescuing the economy. Attempting to fix it at this point with out rescuing it could prove disastrous.

How does your plan address the credit freeze? Business cant get loans, it doesn't matter what free money individuals have in their pockets.

My plan is designed to "STIMULATE THE ECONOMY", you know, what this thread is talking about and what we have been talking about.

My plan to fix the credit freeze is to lower corporate capital gains tax from 35% to 15% for five years. This will deal with the credit freeze thingamajig.

ex animo
davidfarrar

you profess an allegiance to milton friedman and espouse economic policies that are anti-stimulating...

lower capital gains taxes is, essentially, burning tax dollars. please don't burn my money david, not cool.

you would be best served to regroup, read, and then come back some with better information.

you are killing your own argument. (and independent george)

So let's lower taxes on corporate profit by 50% for five years.

ex animo
davidfarrar

i thought you wanted to stimulate the economy??

don't you?

Yes

I do want to stimulate the economy. But some guy in an earlier post wanted me also to address the credit freeze thingamajig.

Allow more small businesses to keep more of their profits and they will build their own lemonade stands besides the side of the street to do it.

ex animo
davidfarrar

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repugs are only interested in the small business man when they're running for office, otherwise they support the Walmarts of the world who drive them away with cheap Chinese imports.

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Yes
Thu, 02/05/2009 - 17:26 — davidfarrar

Allow more small businesses to keep more of their profits and they will build their own lemonade stands besides the side of the street to do it.

ex animo
davidfarrar
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You don't bother to listen to what you're saying either?

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Oh yes, and still no examples given of what the pork is.

And since presumably there's more than one pork, shouldn't that be porcae?

[Stick a fork in him; he's done here-Sitemonitor]

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Wouldn't that be advocating violence

Or at least a boo-boo?

You can't sell lemonade to people that don't have a dime, Dave.

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and what would the economic-contracting reduction in the corporate tax rate do to help the supposed (i don't believe it) credit crisis?

the (supposed) credit crisis is not a function of the corporate tax rate

[side note: i commend you on your ability to take a beating, some insults, a mouthful of crow, yet come back and still be polite]

...he CBO came out and said it will take two years for Obmam's porcus maximus stimulus to reach main street.

This has been debunked every which way from Tuesday. Stop repeating the worn out Republican talking points.

You allow the consumer to keep more of their hard-earned money by lowering their taxes...

The Republicans lowered taxes more than any administration in history and see where that got us? Right where we are now. Tax cuts have their place here but there has to be much more than tax cuts because people who are not working are not paying taxes (its much more complex than this but this point shows it easily and fast).

...we didn't lower government spending. We need to cut government spending. We cannot stimulate the economy by spending money we don't have.

ex animo
davidfarrar

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To repeat myself from that earlier thread, when households and businesses cease spending, if the last part of the GDP (Government) stops spending, the entire system collapses.

In other words, a Recession becomes a Depression.

And tax cuts are a form of government SPENDING.

n.g.o.

keynes general theory....

You don't cut government spending in a time of recession, tough getting by the 9th grade economic class?

.when it comes to government spending. The two wars we are waging!!!!! Or are you one of the believers that we really don't spend money on these wars, since they are funded by supplemental spending and not actually included in the budget? Bush was the only leader in the history of the WORLD that ever lowered taxes during a time of war. Defend those ecomonic policies.

uh duh

doesn't the government EMPLOY people?

So when you suggest that we reduce government spending are you suggesting that we

LAY OFF MORE WORKERS?

Seems pretty fucking dumb.

And seems RREEAALLLLYY unoriginal - sounds like regurgitated Blimpaugh talking points to me.

Doesn't care what any of us here think or say about anything.
He's very likely on the GOP payroll to go out and spread the BS propaganda on every blog.
Repeat ad nauseaum...

Obama is a politician.

You want to support him? Fine.

But let's be honest. He is a politician. Bought and sold.

You want a better government?

You want a government you want?

Good fucking luck.

I don't see it yet. You are way early on that prediction. And what is your solution?

Someone who will give away what everyone here wants.

Your expectations are too high. If Obama can raise the govt from the level Bush took it down to, back up to normal levels of governmental corruption and incompetence I'd be happy. And I think Obama could be the one do it.

n/t

I am sick,SICK of republicans.I pray(and I don't pray often)that our new intelligent,thoughtful,well-spoken president can once and for all shut these slimy,spineless lizards up and free us from there drivel.

Exactly!!!They have been in power for the past 8,years,and they have screwed this,country,worse,than,any,party,in,the,past,hundred,years.

Hmmm...sounds kinky...will Michelle be there to demonstrate?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTMlZSKEu-Y

Best stimulus demonstration.

The Taliban and Osama Bin Laden were the best thing that happened to the Republican Party. That's probably why they have an affinity for them. Before 9/11, the Republicans were losing respect. Bush's favorability ratings were dropping etc. Then all of a sudden the Country rallied around the President and the Presidents Party. It happens the same way throughout history. So I can see why they miss those good old days where people cowered to them in fear. These people are sick. But they've existed throughout history.

It's funny, if a liberal had the audacity to compare Republicans (especially the religious ones) to the Taliban, people would be on their case so fast...and yet, here's a Republican saying it himself. Hopefully word will get around about this, and people will realize that the Repugs are all about terrorizing their own countrymen, economically, socially, you name it...

The double standards are startling. It's like people expect criminal behavior by the Republicans so they get excused for it. But when they feign outrage over something trivial in the Democratic Party, people rally around them. It is so frustrating and annoying. I'd love to live through the reversal of this nonsense. Good points.

Maybe some of it is fear too. People are afraid to stand up to the big bad Republicans, so they let their crimes slide by. Funny thing is it is all a fraud. Most of those Republicans are the weak pretending to be strong. Look at their war records for example. Or their sexual hypocrisies and lies. Let's try to turn this tide around and call them out fearlessly whenever they lie and commit crimes.

Yep, the double standards are disgusting when it comes to Republican faux outrage vs. very real Republican offenses. Thanks, I'd love to see this reversed too.

I'd say... http://www.govtrack.us/congress/person.xpd?id...

Annaleigh, someone on the far right should know what their talking about?

I believe I can see... the link. :-)

Actually, I think we all need to hear what this person is talking about, he's making a very apt comparison between his party and the extremists he may have an affinity for. (If I understood ya wrong, let me know, wasn't too sure.)

Btw, thanks for that site btw, I need to bookmark it! :)

and your perception is outstanding I might add! Thank you

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Mister Taliban, Taliban banana, Daylight come and me wan' go home...

Oh geeez, lol!

Grand Ole Taliban

it might be the first time a GOP thuggy delivered the truth...

wow! mark it down

dedicated group can thwart the will of the mightiest army in the world, if they have the support of THEIR people.

Keith Olbermann is having a 'Special Comment' tonight on Dick Cheney's latest threats of Terrorism in this Country if Obama doesn't continue with the George Bush strategy of torture and rendition. I hope he really nails him.

It's a promise.

He knew everything the last time, except mebbe the precise flight numbers and the exact day...

Keith makes that clear tonight. He's come awful close in the past.

Why should he apologize? He spoke his mind. In this country, he's allowed to do that. Other people are free to not listen.

The fact that he's batshit crazy ought to be taken into account, too. But let him rant. The more he does, the more people know what fools he and his buddies are.

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From the ABC firstread post

Imagine what Drudge would do if a Democrat said this.

He really does rule their world.

First Obama sets Limbaugh up, then sets him off. El Rushbo intimidates the GOP into torpedoing the stimulus, which Americans overwhelmingly want. The Republicans fillibuster. Obama uses the bully pulpit, with a TV appearance., painting the GOPers into a corner, making most of America loath them. Osama bim Limbo intensifies his rhetoric. Public becomes more impatient.

Then Joe Biden shows up at the Senate to pick up the gavel. Nuclear option. Ka-BOOM!!!

...

Alright President Obama time to lace up the shit kickers, start kicking them turds around. I have been waiting my entire life to see it, make it happen, man. Be twice as aggressive as the were, bring on hyper Sweden.

:P

A nationwide strike will wake them up! It's inevitable, ..... better sooner than later. In a year without 3 trillion dollars invested in a recovery effort all those millions of future unemployed will be ready to clog every sewer in the country. Then....the movers and shakers will begin to look for solutions. Keep them clogged for 2 months and the country will be reborn! I suppose you remember Jefferson's comments on the people holding the central government hostage every 20 years or so? It's long overdue!

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Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article entitled 'The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.' It stated that if hemp was cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the single largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest of the world.
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Hemp called 'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop had a business potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics, Feb., 1938.
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Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.
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Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America and it processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow's export to England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer.
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In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture
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pot could save our economy. and, in turn, america.

and, this i know for a fact, pot will not hold a grudge for our decades of treating it like an unwanted guest

LOL. We could pay reparations to it.

As much as I would love to see pot save our economy through taxes, if it was legal wouldn't theprice plummet? More pot users are likely to have a pot garden than vegetable users are to have a vegetable garden. So I'm not sure it would save the economy
(as he lifts his bong to take another hit)

)O(

What about the sales of Twinkies and Ding Dongs?

Mmmmmm. Trickle down from Hostess.

instead of paying for the enforcement, incarceration, DEA-death squads, loss of work-hours, ruined families, legal fees etc, the country gets tax revenue.

maybe the price would go down, maybe. maybe not.

i was exaggerating slightly, i don't think it would fix the economy, but it would go a long way in helping the economy and the country

You can't get high smoking it.

hemp is for industrial use, and pot is for me, all me!

legalize hemp for paper, rope, clothing. and legalize pot for me, all me!

:)

)O(

Don't bogart the weed man.

What does it mean when one cagneys or robinsons the weed?

They're the same plant..hemp is just the male plant.

Yes what will we do with all the unemployed law enforcement and the billions in forfeited assetts that become revenue for the government. The DEA has become such a money laundering racket that now they are too big to fail. Might hurt the economy.

snark/ with tears,

)O(

Decreasing the cost of pot for consumers won't help the economy (outside of the sale of lava lamps, black-lights and black light posters),

But cutting back on the War on Drugs, and massive incarcerations will.

Unless the druggie's after my job.

Pizza deliveries would skyrocket!

You will need a lot of hemp to get high... in fact, I believe Hemp has CBD which blocks the THC in the cannabis.

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I don't think CBD blocks THC Tyler. I believe it influences the duration of the high.

Lot is said about the 420 chemicals but there are at least three besides thc that are necessary for the thc effects to be felt.

That is one reason why synthetic marijuana such as marinol is a failure.

CBD alone is not intoxicating, but it appears to moderate the euphoric effect of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), which is an isomer of cannabidiol and add a sedative quality.[2] Some research, however, indicates that CBD can increase alertness.[3] It may decrease the rate of THC clearance from the body, perhaps by interfering with the metabolism of THC in the liver. CBD does not appear to affect either the CB1 or CB2 receptors.[4]

Medically, it appears to relieve convulsion, inflammation, anxiety, and nausea, and to inhibit cancer cell growth.[5] Recent studies have shown cannabidiol to be as effective as atypical antipsychotics in treating schizophrenia.[6] In November 2007 it was reported that CBD reduces growth of aggressive human breast cancer cells in vitro and reduces their invasiveness. It thus represents the first non-toxic exogenous agent that can lead to down-regulation of tumor aggressiveness.[7][8] It is also a neuroprotective antioxidant.[9]

it is a fact that you would have to smoke a truckload of hemp before you would feel much of a high... :-)

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Thu, 02/05/2009 - 17:42 — Orangutan.

I bet every time there was a car fire it drew a lot of on-breathers.

It does not need all those pesticides and oil-based fertilizers. And it actually improves the soil on which it grows! Unlike corn, which depletes the nitrogen, hemp is beneficial to the soil.

http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/

There are some excellent vidclips, that require comments. I really hate to see all that hard work wasted.

Thanks for the reminder. I forget to pop in there because I'm always mutitasking while I'm here! :)

These good people working so hard and not getting the proper recognition. There are some excellent clips there!!!

Indeed they are. :) I'll be sure to drop in more often! :)

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"Obama to speak Monday night on stimulus while Pete Sessions says Republicans are the new Taliban"

To use trickle-down economics terminology:

republians are the kidney stones of America's econominc urinary system.

Besides tax cheats?

The Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee was supposed to vote on Hilda Solis, President Obama's nominee for Labor Secretary, on Thursday. However, that vote was delayed -- just after USA Today reported that Solis' husband had paid about $6,400 to settle tax liens that had been outstanding for as long as 16 years against his auto business

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Yet more taxes owed...how the heck do these people get away with this stuff?

that said, "Only the little people pay taxes."?

Wasn't that Leona Helmsley?

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Too bad she left her entire estate to her dog and not some worthy non-profits... I guess that was her last fuck you to her family, and to her country too...

have lost the bulk of it on Maddoff and pissed the rest away on NPR.

Repubs rape the taxpayers and the Dems just seem to "forget" to pay theirs.

They sure are trying their damndest to spend and stimulate!

WASHINGTON (AP) - Members of Congress were quick to shame corporate executives for over-the-top extravagance during the economic crisis, flying private jets and taking luxury junkets. But some lawmakers are strolling fancy resorts spending tens of thousands of taxpayer dollars and mingling with lobbyists.

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090206/D965...

Congress...stimulating the taxpayer's wallet since founded.

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Now the next time you hear some wingnut say "Democrat Party" you can counter with "Talibanublican Party".

From dailykos:

"according to one of their leaders, they should model themselves after the secretive and tyrannical religious zealots who terrorize Afghans and provided a safe haven to Osama bin Laden.

Barack Obama has appealed to the Republicans to act in a spirit of bipartisanship for the good of the country. One of the Republican leaders in the House of Representatives thinks the Republicans should model themselves after implacable, violent and tyrannical theocrats opposed to dissent, pluralism, liberty and modernity. Let's hope everyone ponders the contrast, and realizes what we're dealing with as we try to get the Republicans to work cooperatively with Democrats in the best interests of all Americans."

Nuff said.

This is so great--an unexpected gift. I think the Dems should take it and run it as far as it will go and then run it some more. Remember Barry Goldwater and his extremism is no vice--didn't work too well for him.

...that Pete Sessions represents my congressional district (TX-32), and I sure hope there's a strong opponent who can defeat him in 2010. He is an embarrassment to my district, and he must be removed from office.

Poor you! You have my condolences! :(

Toss em in Gitmo

Hey, Mr. Taliban,
Tally me banana

What should we expect from a party that seeks economic policy advice from Joe the plumber.

Day-O!

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Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX) said:

I’m not trying to say the Republican Party is the Taliban.

He’s just saying that the (R)uspublicans should be LIKE the Taliban and emulate them.

Q U E S T I O N:
What kind of person calls for action that emulates the Enemy?

… And none dare call it TREASON!

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The GOP has failed this United States.

It is treason. The Republicans want this country to fail. They had rather see it fail than see it succeed with Democratic leadership. That simple.

GOP

The "Gut Our People" Party is once again showing that they do not care a thing about the average people of America. It is all about the rich and the "haves". I think that the debate has lasted long enough. The more time that you give these stroke victims( just look at many of them) the longer they delay and the worse the crisis becomes. Bipartisanship is great assuming that you are dealing with human beings. The Repugs just aren't human or humane!

* With what money?
* Who's going to loan it to us? China?
* Were deep in debt, so the solution is more debt?

Really?

* Has anyone thought about not spending?
* Why are you trying to re-inflate a bubbled economy?
* Why not let them fail and let the strong pickup after words? (it's been proven to work)
* Why not revalue gold, and get us back on a gold standard baseline?
* Why not abolish the unconstitutional FED? (seriously, the FED has it valued at $45 an ounce, market has it at over $900)

Just wondering because you know no not many are asking these questions or supplying any answers along these lines.

HELLO!?!?

Rule #1 in investing never catch a falling knife, and were catching a $30 trillion knife.

US Inflation Could Hit 200%
http://www.cnbc.com/id/29047443

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