The Sunday Gasbag shows paint President Obama as a "Lame Duck"
I watch many of the Sunday talk shows, and have been doing so for over five years. My brain is developing soft tissue on my frontal lobe, and after viewing this week's installment, the damaged tissue is spreading fast.
If you tuned in to the Villagers, they practically called for Obama's resignation.
Digby and Heather noticed the same thing.
In case you were wondering, the consensus on all the Sunday gasbag shows is that Obama is an abject failure because of his radical leftist ideology and that his only hope of even maintaining the presidency, much less winning a second term is to take a sharp turn to the right and enact the Republican agenda. Several commentators, including such luminaries as political cross dresser Matthew Dowd on ABC, insisted that the first thing the president has to do is pick a huge fight with the Democrats to show the country that he isn't one of them. Cokie said he should have asked John McCain from the beginning what he was allowed to do.
The historians and expert political observers on Fareed Zakaria's CNN show all agreed that Obama is no Reagan, a president who never governed ideologically and always worked across party lines. Oh, and he needs to be a president or a prime minister, but nobody could agree on exactly what that means except that he should try to be more like Scott Brown, the white Barack Obama, except without all the liberalism.
Oddly, the Republicans weren't mentioned, although Robert Caro did note that Obama inherited something of a mess. Peggy Noonan said he ran to win not to govern and they all agreed that was a brilliant observation. Zakaria did point out that Obama had a higher approval rating at this stage than both Reagan and Clinton and that the two Bush's were higher at this point because of wars and they all stared for a moment and then went on about centrism and prime ministers again.
The Village has officially turned. I'm guessing they'll be calling for his resignation by July.
The Republicans can do no wrong. I'm not saying Axelrod has done a good job, but the conservatives filibustered everything they could. And then they lie about it. Mr. Waterloo shouldn't be allowed back on TV until he admits he lied.
OK, here's what he said:
And now he lies:
I'm waiting for the Beltway media elites to tell Obama that he must appoint a Republican to the White House so Obama can learn how to govern.
my condolences
me-oww!
from one interested observer who at times uses far too much bandwidth to post a comment.
Dear President Obama:
Dance With Who Brung Ya.
Sunday Gasbag Shows?
You mean...Circle Jerk of the Rich and Famous.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
the women-folk in the room.
Oh? Doesn't it?
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
not really...unless they are simply there as enablers.
The women I know don't split hairs when it comes to self gratification.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
me on that one.
I mean, I get Crooks and Liars and Mediamatters and Glennzilla observing and reporting but really, why would anybody give them traffic, readership, viewership or listen to anything they have to say? They are always wrong, nakedly biased and no longer make any pretense that they are about anything but pushing their own agenda. I've said it before and I'll say it again: As long as people turn them on, pick up their papers or tune them in, there is no reason for advertizers to bail on them and thus no reason to change. It's just that simple. You want the return of real journalism, designed to inform rather than persuade? Stop consuming the crap that they produce.
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
Media Matters are always wrong?
Nakedly biased?
You are all over the place in your post.
Can you be more specific in what you mean?
Do you support online media like C and L and MM or not?
I cannot tell by your post.
I said "I GET" (why) Crooks and Liars and Mediamatters and Glenn (Greenwald) watch so they can observe and report. In this case "they" and "them" equal the subject of the post. i.e. The Villagers.
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
whatever.
That discourse thing isn't so much fun for you either it seems.
Wow.
What the hell have I done to you?
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
just asking questions about how you receive your media information...and wondering why doing that would make you think I'm attacking you.
You seem to think that the talking heads shows are aimed at John and Jane Doe, everyman/woman, but that's really not so.
These shows are targeted to the Chamber of Commerce. Look at the advertising: ADM and Aetna, not Miller Lite and McDonald's. They target those who make the investments for pension funds, who decide which insurance plan to purchase for their employees. So you and I can quit watching or even organize boycotts, but unless the financial elites quit watching, these programs will run in perpetuity.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Demint is the most aptly named person in politics.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
physical there was a Sgt. in charge named Demint. He handed out a
form for us to fill out. He announced some of us had a form with a question on race missing. He told us to write our race at the bottom. I wrote "Whitey" on mine. Later I was called out by name and taken to see Sgt. Demint. After some discussion I politely informed him I thought he was missing a suffix. He did not get it.
I got proof Arlo Guthrie was right. There is a Group W bench.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I've just been sitting here following the pie fight/comment fight that is going on, on this thread. When I began to read your comment, I thought of Alice's Restaurant. So when I read the last sentence it caused me to laugh out loud. Even Martini jumped up to see what happened.
Thanks for the laugh after reading all the tension here.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
the place was called by its acronym AFEES. I had a lot of fun making it plural.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
:)
Same thing Martini left outside after he ate.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
but I know you will love the little bugger anyway.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
He recycles. Poop today is fertilizer next week.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
If Obama had not alienated the base.
'mistakes':
Ignore / repudiate the blogs and the 'left of the left', used as a smear.
FISA flip-flop
No single payer
GITMO, still open
Iraq / Afghanistan, continued
DOMA, hateful brief, followed by words and innaction
DADT, same shit, different administration
Dropping of the public option
Dropping, at least so the rumor goes, pre-existing conditions
No regulation on bankers / wall street, but continued corporate welfare.
Allowing the false 'tea-bagger' crowd to co-opt and then completely take the mantle of 'populism' from a president and party who were voted in precisely on those terms.
there are many other 'mistakes', many of which can be pinned on various Dem 'leadership'... but I have a hard time believing that has to be the way it is, and wouldn't be any different if Obama played some hardball.
my sentiments above.
golf clap
me-oww!
laugh.
Not sure why sarcasm is necessary for my agreement with another comment. But I did laugh.
of my comment, and scroll up, you'll find that it lines up with yours. That means I wasn't replying to you, I was replying to the same comment you were. In a complimentary way.
Now this one is indented from your "I don't get your sarcasm" post, which means I am replying to IT
It's not all about you, BS.
me-oww!
OK. I give. Uncle.
I didn't line up the comments and so it is all about me?
Pardon my indent etiquette or lack thereof.
for loss of a thread a blog was lost
for loss of a blog a base was abandoned
Scroll early and often, BlueSam.
Much is at stake.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
That was funny!
I mean the village is of one mind, an echo chamber of center-right unenlightened thought.
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
The Paper Doll People.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
i gave up the sunday talk shows years ago. try it. you'll feel better.
After Brinkley left This Week, it was all down hill from there.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
I did more recently and then the evening shows. If I watch any of them it's Maddow and I haven't even watched that one in a few weeks. My stress level has gone way down. I don't pay for cable television so people can shout at me about how they believe I should think.
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
you hammered the online media, you don't consume tv media.
Do you listen to any radio media?
Where do you get your information to follow the ramblings of this nation?
Among others. I eschew traditional media except for occasionally the Rachel Maddow show. Why are you trying to be a jerk towards me? I haven't pissed in your Cheerios.
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
Actually, he's being a jerk toward me, but that's ok.
It'll be naptime soon.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
BlueSam is the unofficial moderator of Crooks and Liars now or what? Well I don't watch the Villagers to be shouted at about how I should believe and I don't give traffic to this blog to be treated like garbage either. Out.
Barack Obama: Change we can only imagine
meet end.
Holy crap.
you could show me where....??
The only dialogue we have had is about your comment regarding circle jerks...where I asked about women...
and you responded in a normal fashion...and I responded in a normal fashion...
How is observing factual information about your comment and asking additional question being a jerk?
I really am just asking...nothing deeper than that to be construed...nothing between the lines...not setting you up for some sophomoric attack...
It's a conversation...
There are plenty of other media to gain information.
BBC for instance. Same news...but without the propaganda.
Plenty of foreign journals and journalists, plenty of foreign websites.
Like everything else, it requires THOUGHT to parse through it all. That's why so many of us have given up on traditional AMERICAN media. We know that the purpose is NOT to report, but to indoctrinate.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
and I was just asking. I didn't demean the commenter for using other methods.
I simply asked what other methods were used.
And my note about online media was a COMPLIMENT.
Pay no attention to the men behind the curtains.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
especially this sunday shows crap. You may as well watch Jimmy Swaggert or Pat Robertson. It accomplishing NOTHING.
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interview on KPFK, 90.7 FM.
I'd rather read the L.A. Times and listen to the radio on Sunday morning, then catch the highlights here.
Let the staff of C&L get a big fat headache and "soft frontal lobe tissue syndrome" (in poor John's case).
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
I will question and condemn your media choices when I ask:
Do you have a quick link for the interview?
these are not the "men behind the curtains"
these are the people sent out by "the men behind the curtains" to confuse and distract.
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"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
and abject flunky after this first year. But of course the Tea Bag Party (NeoRepublicans) is going to rub it in and rub it in and rub it in on TeeVee every chance they can. Crank up the noise!!!
The rest of us sane people want RESULTS. CHANGE, REAL CHANGE. NOW!!!
Not going to wait around much longer waiting for Obama and the Dems to get their act together.
The arrogant Democrats believe they DO have their act together!!!
They're all just upset that the rest of us aren't "going along to get along" like good little lackey Democrats should.
Speaking of "going along to get along", Organizing for America is having Obama cheerleading parties Wednesday night for the State of the Union.
I'm attending one here on the Westside of L.A. They want to have a little "discussion" afterwards....
Heh.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
They are all villagers. They are all on the same bridge. Or so they tell us.
If you buy the premnise that most of the media are not very bright
(I do), and that Republicans are both not bright and bigoted ( I certainly do) then it should not surprise nor disappoint that Democrats share at least one characteristic with the other two groups in the village.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Awww...the good little androids are going to get together for a cute mixer.
Let me guess, there'll be punch and cute little sandwiches served, and then a biiiig group hug at the end.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Can't you keep your deprecatory meme consistent? We like
MFing Kool Aid.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Yes...Kool Aid and crackers.
And in the spirit of bipartisanship, the Kool Aid will be Fruit Juicy Red.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
objected to the assignment of red to them, or the usurpation of the color of their blood in assigning a color to Democrats.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
U will have some fun.
Go get 'em.
The worst thing politically for the GOP would be to have control of either the House or the Senate, or both.
Then the public would see what exactly the Republicans aren't able to do. And Obama could try and push through all sorts of things pleasing to the public and the Repubs would be stuck voting NO.
Might be the best thing for Obama and the Dems in 2012. Might be.
Plus there is this thing still going that if you are critical of Obama you can't be a Liberal or Progressive which is nonsense.
It's simply not true as this and numerous similar web sites attest.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
doing it.
Liberals and Progressives need to start pushing Obama around a bit because he and his administration are obviously Not Liberal or Progressive.
seems to think Obama has caved to the progressive left while the left accuses Obama of caving to the right. I know of no side that says you can't criticize Obama. Your voice might be lost in the din though since there doesn't seem to be anybody who thinks he's doing anything right.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
My voice has been lost in the din since I starting screaming Watch Out!!! When W won the GOP ticket.
contest (for the GOP ticket) or did you just see W. as the more sinister of the two at the time?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
we've already been down that road, dnegri.
There is very little truth on television.
Media ownership rules need to be changed.
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YEP! Right after universal healthcare is passed and campaign finance reform is enacted.
The Congress is gonna hop right on that!! ;o)
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
that the votes on all of those issues are scheduled for Friday next.
And I'm sure they're all in doubt. LOL.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
"Peggy Noonan said he ran to win not to govern and they all agreed that was a brilliant observation."
Um...Bush?
do not get to govern. But then Peggy has never written or spoken to inform.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
Have there marching orders. The same they have had for over twenty years. Try to make everything reasonable, look unreasonable, and everything unreasonable appear reasonable. They use the same bullshit and double talk. They twist words and polls to arrive at an insane version of reality. Sure people are angry with Obama. Angry for letting the insane right make so much of a problem. But making problems is what the republicans do best.
These beltway over paid corporate whores/liars on the tv shows, the radios, and a lot of them in print and dishonest and do not deserve the attention given to the nonsense they spew.
The same goes for all in the GOP. They cannot be trusted. They only think of themselves. Their greed over rides all other purpose and is the reason we are in the condition we find ourselves.
The sooner everyone quits watching and listening traitors the faster we can start fixing the problems they have helped create.
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness and it has nearly killed America. Lets stamp out the stupid greedy conservatives now!
I no longer read "Time, "Newsweek," or any such news-magazine. I do not read the "New York Times," "The Washington Post," or any other newspaper, large or small. I very rarely even glance at the evening news on television. And I am increasingly tuning out PBS's friday line-up of talking heads and information shows. When Moyers leaves soon, there will be no reason to watch any of it. Sunday morning talk-a-thons.....Puhleeeeeze!
And still, I feel confident I am more informed, better informed and with far more accuracy and truth. I get my information from the "Web," and logical deduction. Works fine, and I don't have to filter myself.
see how long the Information Super Highway remains "toll free".
Frankly, I don't consider 60 bucks a month to turn this thing on, "toll free." But I do see your point.
but other than post holes in very, very soft dirt, they have no use.
They made the same prediction about Clinton but had the decency to wait until the Democrats lost Congress. Don't you remember how Newt made the Presidency irrelevant?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
I know that blogospherians like John and his brethen do have access to at least some of our representatives in government.
This is just a suggestion, but I think it should be relayed to those representatives that, although blogs like this are a good place for people to "blow off steam", there is a tangible disappointment with our government and the Democratic Party in particular which will manifest itself in the coming election cycle.
Our representatives can choose to ignore it at the risk of their own political lives, but it is out here...and it's not going away.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
I don't think this is the first time Obama has been called a lame duck. I seem to recall that phrase hilariously coming out in the first 100 days.
Funny/sad to see how many have completely forgotten the wise republican administration of the past 8 years, swept no doubt in the craziness of the last election. Now, if only there were some mementos, legacies piled on the Obama administration from the start, signs from which we could remember what had been going on since 2000...Oh well, since america seems hell bent on electing soft-core porn stars, I'm waiting for the inevitable Brown/Palin ticket...
now that you mention it, there does seem to be at least a general preference or outright understanding that those who are tall with a good head of hair are somehow the best people to have in public office.
My guess is years of American Idol and Next Top Model have confused a lot of people as to what the political process should be about.
We're all addicted to/indoctrinated with impossibly good-looking people on our teevees.
To be "ugly" (plain even) in America is now a sin.
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
that politics is show business for ugly people. Where will we uglies go now.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
What do you think the camps are for?
"If the US government enforced its banking laws like it did its park regulations, we wouldn't be
in this damn park in the first place." OCCUPY.!!
I will make this my favorite quote
my sides hurt.
Ha! Too many really 'f'ed up visuals in my head.
Way too many with Tyra Banks..
Ooh that wicked liberal media at work again!
...on the Sunday shows, as they have become MAJOR Republican ass kissing festivals. Look @ their rotating guest lists--Gramps McSame, Lindsey (I got thrown out of the military for gay acts) Graham, Bitch McConnell & Others. I usually play "The Wanda Sykes Show" ( good subst. for SNL and the hour of "The Three Stooges" that I DVR'd on Saturday night. I personally find these shows more edifying...
and for no other reason. his selection was the most cynical and reckless political decision of a history of presidential elections. it was ONLY, toots baby dollface shnookums, to WIN. nothing else. if hed gotten the job, he wouldve had to figure out what next. and you more than likely voted for the two of them. so what, you harpy, do you say to that?
By that definition, Obama would be a lame duck!
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