Teabagger Mark Williams says: 'Obama is an Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug and a racist in chief' and tries to defend it!
By John Amato Tuesday Sep 15, 2009 3:00pm
[H/t Heather]
Nutbag wingnuts never ever go away even when they lose their tiny radio shows. They just come back again and again and again. Big money republicans always keep their wingnuts around in one form or another.
Anyway, Conservatives are crying a little more than usual lately because their racism has been so prominently displayed in their teabagger meetings and protests. And what do you know, my old pal Mark Williams is leading a teabagger party and his racism gets exposed by Anderson Cooper last night quite easily. He lies with the best of them and got caught by Anderson. Check it out.
COOPER: But I mean, Mark, what you're saying makes sense to me here when I'm hearing what you're saying. But then I read on your blog, you say -- you call the president an Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug and a racist in chief.
WILLIAMS: Yes.
COOPER: Is that the kind of...
WILLIAMS: That's the way he's behaving.
COOPER: But I mean...
WILLIAMS: I mean, if he cares to be...
(CROSSTALK)
COOPER: Do you believe he's Indonesian? Do you believe he's a Muslim? Do you really believe he's a welfare thug?
WILLIAMS: He's certainly acting like it.
GERGEN: You think he's a racist in chief? Racist in chief? Is that what you called him? That's unbelievable. It's unbelievable,
WILLIAMS: Until he embraces the whole country -- what else can I conclude? He and guys like James are totally, totally isolating the rest of this country; if you're a working-class American, then you know, that's it.
CARVILLE: I tell you, if you're an American, and you like what you're hearing from this guy, if you like celebrating a man's death, go over there with these people.
Mark Williams found his new calling by joining up with the teabaggers which seems like a good fit to me since there was no where for him to go after he lost his radio show in Sacramento. In the segment he tries to downplay the psychos that make up a large part of the teabaggers and says there is no racism and then is exposed as a racist. You can't make this up.
Here's some context on this guy. His behavior was so outlandish that I've posted several clips of him over the years and he doesn't like me so much. I remember when I called Williams "Puke" in a post for his obnoxious comments he made on Hardball about Cindy Sheehan's son during Cindy's stand at Crawford ranch back in August of 2005.
O'Donnell: "Mark, if you don't mind, you're making the case that Cindy Sheehan is hurting the morale of our troops?"
Williams: "She is aiding and abetting the enemies of this country and the people who killed her son. And right now Casey Sheehan is spinning in his grave!"
And the best response he could make to me was that I was trying to have his dog assassinated.
After Katrina hit, he acted like the lowest of the low when he attacked Katrina victims by saying they were too dumb and lazy to get out of NOLA.
Williams: ..they didn't have the necessary brains and common sense to get out of the way of a Cat 5 Hurricane and then when it hit them- stood on the side of the convention Center expiring while reporters were coming and going..
Morris:...that's just sickening---that is atrocious what you are saying...
He calls Kanye West a racist while he spews racism.
Williams: The only role race plays in this is that the American black population has been the prototype for an entire race of people being, being turned into a group of dependents of the government--trapped there, I'm using that word very loosely are screaming we want help, we want help..
This is a man who is leading the teabagger brigade and is lapping up the attention. I hope the media sees these clips so they know who they are dealing with.








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and go away that you count on.
Is this guy fucking Cooper on the side? That's the only reason I can think of that AC keeps having him over for a chat. WTF?
As long as the discourse is reasonable and honest (NOT!)
"Sure there are dishonest men in local government. But there are dishonest men in national government too."
Richard M. Nixon (1913 - 1994)
When you get David Gergen to say "That's unbelievable" you know you've lost not only anything resembling anywhere close to anyplace within miles of the center, but the all important Broderists as well.
It's good when these nutjobs get airtime. They fire up their miniscule base and alienate practically everyone else.
yep, but just don't elect a nutjob to do anything for you, just because they's on the TeeVee, or you'll be sorry...
I agree, let them talk and have everyone see exactly what they are. The best response to this kind of crap is more talk, and that's what's needed, more responses to these nutjobs. Sadly, the MSM seems to have abdicated that role.
The "center" is for people with no spine or backbone. "I want to see it from both sides." Wimps. I can respect flaming liberals because at least they are standing on principle. They are wrong, but at least they take a position.
People who sit in the middle are the bain of our great country. The people who were debating the founding of our nation took a position. They stood and fought against tyranny or they went to Canada to support the crown. Not many fence sitters.
The same fence-sitting winps who voted for change and Obama are the same wafflers complaining about him now. Independents are spineless cowards unable or unwilling to take a principled stand. I can't stand Obama and what he is doing to our country, but can respect those who support him and what, from their persepctive, he is trying to accomplish.
Republicans and Democrats are ruining our nation - the House, the Senate, state and local governments, it doesn't matter. The people in power are not looking out for the people. They want more power and more money for themselves and their croonies. George W. Bush or Barack Hussein Obama, Nancy Pelosi or Newt Gingrich, doesn't matter. They are looking out for themselves.
Get rid of two types of people and perhaps, we can recover our nation: career politicians and lawyers (funny how many of our career politicians are lawyers?).
Be a conservative or a liberal progressive (notice, I didn't say Republican or Democrat). Have the guts to take a position. Don't be a panty-waist and blow in whatever the direction the wind is carrying you. Be a man or woman of principle and stand up for what you believe.
For kicks, try playing all three videos above at once. Its a rush.
They burn brightest as the RegipizaN black hole finally consumes them - forever frozen into history as the most bigoted fascist corporatists to ever scourage this land. This Mark Williams will not escape the darkness that has consumed the republican party.
Has "Punch Me Hard" written all over it.(I'm not advocating violence, but I am volunteering to stand lookout.)
Trust me John, if a woman punched this tough guy bigot Williams, he'd burst into tears.
Yes the Nazi are stepping up the pace This white Trailer Trash makes me proud, he proves he is a total functioning illiterate. The piece of trash like that other NAZI Wilson from South Carolina (whom I sent a email letting them know with all the Ignorant RACIST Nazis there I will no longer visit a Racist Nazi UNEDUCATED State.
NOW that these Morons are on the record will the MSM please ignore them so those of us with some what sense of Intelligence can move on.
The ineffectual Wacko right wing Party of NO Racist Nazi party.
CNN replayed this again later in the evening yesterday and I was just astounded by what Williams actually said. Jim Carville could hardly contain his laughter with some of the outrageous stuff that was spewing forth from Williams..David Gergen who is reasonably hard to rattle was about to come out of his chair at Williams in full blown attack mode. It was truly a site to behold...Even Cooper was outwardly semi-astonished.....
Mark Williams is a Full-Blown, certifiable, no holds barred Cluster-Fox believer and will follow hannity, beck, o'reilly, greta and limberger over the cliff TODAY if asked to do so...If there are any more spears to fall on, Williams has just not found them yet but he IS looking...
Man is a certifiable loon....
Williams is the David Duke For a New Millennium!!!!!!!!
wouldn't know representative democracy if it reared up and bit him on his lily white ass...
what the hell does this guy think that activists like me have been doing for decades now?!?
God I hate these slimey scum like williams. I would not mind ti kick his ass!
republicanism is a mental illness!
Where the hell was your outrage during the 8 years the Bush Administration was taking your dollars and giving them to the corporations? You're so transparent it's pathetic.
You claim the protesters were a "cross section of America." Really? All I see for the most part are middle aged and older white folk. Does this mean the Blacks, the Asians, the Mexicans, etc are somehow not American?
And shame on Anderson Cooper for giving 2 seconds to that nutcase.
Technically he's right about the "cross section of 'Merica," if you use the appropriate definition of "cross," that is, crankiness caused by hippies on their lawns.
I remember the good old days when lunatics were in asylums, not on the teevee.
To cram my foot down williams throat!
republicanism is a mental illness!
Reality check.
Here is the best photo overview of 9/12 I have seen.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2633/391429907...
See those two buses on either side of General Grant? They are on 3rd St. You can see bare grass behind them and cars beyond that on 4th St. After that is more grass until you get to the white tents set up for another event. Now take a look at Google maps here:
http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&tab=wl&q=ref...
Out of view on both sides of this photo are more people but look at the map to see where they fit in. This is NOT a million people, nowhere close.
but I'm being generous, your take?
Also, in Washington state, not dc but state, there was a 3000 person pro-reform rally. Didn't hear much about that.
But no one was being crazy/ratings grabbing.
This is the only country in the world where an idiot like that can spout off about the President and not disappear, what a shame.
toward a corporate tool like Williams.
And I am an avowed pacifist.
Damn, I'd better check myself.
Yes, yes, all very depressing and delusional.
But honestly, C&L, why give these creeps any more exposure?
I understand the "know your enemy" principle but part of knowing them is understanding that they get their rocks off on the liberal outrage that they cause. Why give them the satisfaction?
Don't feed the trolls!
like me, who refuse to watch the damned teevee -
but still want to know who the eejits are and what they're doing.
I'm grateful for this service.
Rightwing lunatics like Mark Williams are dangerous.
Keeping an eye on what they say and do is important.
"Obama is an Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug and a racist in chief"? Unbelievable!
Williams should be sued for slander/defamation.
yes, it's important to point out what these morons are saying, it's also important to keep a record, considering so many are quick to forget
As often stated....this place is called crooks and liars.
Fair point!
They generally only said things like this in secret and in friendly surroundings, now they open spew.
Like when king george the first threw up on the guy in Japan.
republicanism is a mental illness!
Bush would have had his ass renditioned and no one would ever know exactly what happened to him.
Can you believe how stupid these racist thugs are?
Do you see why I have been saying for more then a year now that republicanism is a mental illness?
People need to see more of this. They don't know what these people are capable of.
This asshat said repeatedly that the teabaggers on 9/12 were "working class Americans" or represented America's working class.
His point was that those on the left (whether they protest or not) are neither working class, nor WORKING. He was using the same insult that most right wing minions do: Democrats, liberals and self-described progressives do not work, and non-whites in the aforementioned categories CERTAINLY do not work, and the only reason they support the Democrats is because they're looking for something for nothing.
It's shorthand, right wing speak, code, a dog whistle to the rabid, snarling, infectiously insane supporters of people like Mark Williams. That's also where the "welfare thug" part comes in with his description of Obama.
...beyond disgusting.
These are the people who are killing health care reform for republicans. And the spineless dems let them control the debate. Unbelievable.
...is that Gergen and Carville didn't walk off when they heard what was on Mark William's blog. Andersen Cooper should be ashamed for giving such human dung a forum.
is laughing and Carville is laughing at him. I don't think it's a laughing matter.
Nah...I think laughing in his face was better. Righteous ridicule is powerful. Remember Tina Fey as Palin?
I am not real happy with Carville misquoting the sign he held up. He was spot on in decrying the the slam that the neocons were making on Ted Kennedy and his family. However, Carville said he that the sign said Obama instead of Obamacare which made it seem like a personal attack on Obama and his daughters. Carville is a very smart guy and I do not believe this was a mistake on his part.
Williams, however, is a complete asshat. For Williams to compare anti-war protests against anti-healthcare protests is nothing short of obscene. As a person who protested the Iraq war I have to say that I did it because I did not want to see my fellow countrymen die, the teabaggers are simply worried about their wallet.
I do like like Carville's term "Neoconfederate" though.
Lastly Cooper should have called out Williams on his "Picnic" comment. All of the video I have seen, from both right and left sources show one ugly angry picnic.
never heard those two in a sentence before.
would i be right in assuming that the only black guy to appear at one of these rallys also had to carry a rocket launcher just to stand out from the crowd?
There is nobody more obviously infuriatingly dependent on government entitlements than dead Negroes floating face down in the water following a category 5 hurricane.
It makes me want to lynch their festering bloated carcasses.
Or the African Americans who are in the military fighting to defend the rights of these soft, doughy, pudgy, pastey white cowardly teabagging chickenhawks to sprew their racial hatred and venom.
Notice how Anderson Cooper kept trying to make the case that what we see now with the tea baggers is the same sort of discourse we've seen in the past.
Nice going AC. Keep spreading the right wing talking points.
The president is trying to give the working classes affordable medical insurance with consistent coverage
And say what you might about the auto manufacturer's bail-out his Raison d'être were to save working classes well paying jobs.
Not like boosh who gave a massive bailout to the banks that ripped us off not once, but twice, with no strings attached for an abstraction like keeping credit flowing.
It didn't work.
Why did Mark Williams even bother to take off his pointy white hat for this segment?
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Look out TX :)
Snip - A group of freedom loving Americans has acquired a 500 acre parcel of land in Texas for folks that are worried about civil unrest, government takeovers and other threats to our freedoms and liberties.
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Egads i can't believe my ears. What is so horrid about the situation is that this scumbag has a following. And the Republicans are suppose to be smart? Yea..right..we will leave out the smart and just call them a *arse.
And, thanks to AC, he'll have a bigger following. Why on earth give characters like this more exposure?
UV light kills bacteria.
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n/t
These repukes are amazing. Who would follow these boneheads!!
Love this Carville quote:
"there's ugly something wrong with this"
Except for Fox, Dobbs, Scarborough, Matthews, and a few other shit starters, why even give this predictable Williams a forum to spew his hatred?
a hedonistic trait of repubism?
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I have seen Maoists (World Can't Wait) comport themselves with more dignity, sense, and coherence than this reprobate.
What the sweet hell was he even doing on Anderson Cooper.
Why is CNN putting a piece of trash like him in front of the camera?
they have democrats on so they have to have a republican conservative. also, if they just pointed out that the tea party fellows are loons, they open themselves up to bias, ie pretending that there are two sides to this despite the utter failure of the right wing activists to effectively demonstrate that there is any way to interpret the protests except as a bunch of psychos.
It's like Stephen Colbert said sometimes "reality has a left wing bias" but if they tried to acknowledge that, conservatives might criticize them.....which is completely different than what they do now.
Because it's in their corporate interest to keep the peons divided and fighting amongst themselves. That way, they won't notice the plutocrat's stealing everything that isn't bolted down!
That's why watching any corporate media is very bad for you, no matter how much they cry they are liberal or conservative. You can get a much better picture of the truth, which often defies labels, on the internet.
Why couldn't they have given the anti war protestors half this much positive coverage. Cnn has tried to give Williams and these guys respect, he's tried to make them look sane.
It's like....come on, this is how the anti-war people got treated. http://www.counterpunch.org/taibbi02012003.html
I was there that day!! I even have pictures of the guys holding the sign saying "hippies go home"... it's a little grainy, but I have it. The crowd was gi-normous. It was 10 degrees that morning, but just being in the crowd, surrounded 25-deep on each side, the temperature was bearable!!
There's no way that this past Saturday's crowd was as large!!
I think every gaydar siren in the county just went off! He kind-a looks like Ted "I'm no longer gay" Haggard.
My gaydar's been going off on Cooper since gay 1.
about whether Obama is Kenyan or Indonesian? Or do they simply not know the difference?
Let me ask the question another way for you. How stupid does a teabagger have to be to not even be able to keep their anti-American lies straight? Or are they just complete ignorant of geography as well as being anti-American liars?
Psychological case studies are actually very useful.
yes :)
To them, it doesn't matter from where exactly Obama is from, only that he's from "one'a them brown countries". That's why they can switch from one lie to the next without batting an eye. It's not about the place, it's about the race. It's always been about the race.
Hippies with feather boas in San Francisco, oh the humanity! Far worse than people bringing loaded fire arms to an Obama rally.
I don't know them San Francisco hippies are pretty dangerous. I mean one needle poke and your done for.
Say Whaaaaa??????
Whatever happened to personal freedoms?
So the government should take control of you if you choose to do drugs yourself, but carrying a firearm which could kill other people is a protected right? this country is done for and it's quite sad to see its rapid decline because of this jaded mentality.
So you see shooting heroin or Cocaine as being simply a personal freedom and think it should be treated as such. I know you did not say that exactly but it kind of seemed like that was how you felt. As far as I know people carrying firearms outside of townhall meetings have not been a problem at all. Have there been any firearm related crimes outside of the meetings? It has also been my experence that most of the people that make issue with personal freedom when relating to drugs are often users. To sum it up I'll take my chances with Citizens with guns before I would junkies and crackheads.
...how?
And how about those Oxycontin addicts? That's synthetic heroin, basically. How do you feel about that junkie, Rush Limbaugh?
Well Andy I had said needle poke and I assumed because obamafever82 responded about personal freedoms that he was talking about drugs of theese kinds the ones used by way of needles. I don't really care for Rush or addicts of any type of drug. I do however think that junkie is a term reserved for interveneous drug users so in regards to Oxycontin addicts the correct term wold be maybe pill poppers or something like that.
It has also been my experience that most of the people that know all the fine points of hard drug terminology when relating to drugs are often users.
;-)
Law enforcment never entered your mind? Wonder why?
about Rush Limbaugh. He's stated that he wants drug addicts like himself killed.
My guess is the troll is new at it and doesn't understand about bait and currents. Just throwing his bare hook aimlessly.
Who cares what Rush Limbaugh says. I don't
We're discussing the radical teabagger Williams here.
I know that Williams is the topic here. I never brought up Rush. Andy K did. Stop trying to play hall monitor your.........wait for it.... Terrible at it. I'm off this thread before they decide to ban me or something.
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what I said was "I don't know them San Francisco hippies are pretty dangerous. I mean one needle poke and your done for." and it was in response to this
Tue, 09/15/2009 - 20:12 — obamafever82 said "Far worse than people bringing loaded fire arms to an Obama rally."
happened!
Why is this fucker even on TV???????
The site has a policy about going WAYYYYYY off topic. It's usually low life fat lazy radical wingnut trolls who do it. There's an open thread above where you can talk about whatever's on your mind. This thread is about crazy teabaggers on TV. Crazy puke Kayne West might make a good thread but this isn't the right page.
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on this slug. For crying out loud! This slimeball called Obama a "racist in chief" a "thug" etc. Every time I see this piece of crap, he is always yelling at someone expressing an opinion other than his, and generally being ultra-obnoxious. He doesn't have any real information-just a pukebucket full of rhetoric and exaggeration.
Why any respectable news org would have this idiot on to spew his bile is beyond me.
Williams always has that creepy, goofy grin on his face while he dishes his garbage. Sickening.
Mark Williams comments were way overboard. This is still America however and free speech should not be limited. It is fundamental and a right in which all others are supported by. So yeah he was way wrong for saying it but he has the right to do so. Unless someone here thinks the president is beyond ridicule.
...the right to broadcast over the public airwaves. You need a license for that.
Let him shout from a soapbox. Print his own newsletter. That's fine.
We are in America-we have the right to our opinions. I say let him say what he wants in his sickeningly shitty manner. I want his comments and the way he attacks people to be noted all over the place-here, Newshounds, all over. I never said anything about officially limiting his free speech. What I meant was I think I find it unbelievable that network news people would even think about having him on since he is so vicious.
Yes, let Mark Williams and the rest of the group spew their ideals. If anything it works as a great reminder why none of us should ever vote for people or causes associated with these wingnuts or shame on us for not paying attention.
The act of a desperate man. He's pathetic.
I fail to see how the Republican Party thinks these kinds of actions and displays of utter stupidity will make people want to join their ranks and support their ideals and candidates. This isn't going to convince any Democrats, moderates, or independents that are on the fence to follow and be associated with these loonie toons. I really believe this party must have a death wish and it is definitely being granted.
At 0:52 Mark Williams says, "James, I saw exactly 3 offensive signs all the way cross country..."
He was talking about the signs portraying Obama as a witch doctor. Those were the only ones he considered offensive.
Where do you start with a comment like that? I saw more than 3 offensive signs every square yard...
'Obama is an Indonesian Muslim turned welfare thug and a racist in chief' and tries to defend it!
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And a partridge in a pear tree....
I love how Mark Williams keeps repeating "working stiffs" like it means anything in this context. The political right has made its mark over the past century rate kicking working stiffs in the teeth.
Why does MSM give this lunatic racist credence?
More like Douchebaggers.
What I don't get is why the other two people aren't calling this guy on what he's doing? Do they not know that when he talks about "the public" and "working class stiffs" who are "celebrating America" that this is code for working class white people who want to "take back their country" from people they don't consider American--meaning anyone who doesn't look, think or talk like them? Or this stuff about the government turning "against its people" and "cramming things down their throats?" Why don't they just friggin' call him on that, demand that he answer who these "real Americans" are and why he refers to this small group of people as Americans and uses all this rhetoric?
Why, instead, does it seem like he's just given time to talk, and asked polite questions? Yes, I can understand why the other guys are just laughing at him, but is there nobody that can just challenge him on what's actually going on? Which has nothing to do with whether or not it's impolite to mention the death of Kennedy or call people Nazis? It's not like this kind of rhetoric is new in America.
Maybe a the cross section of high school drop outs.
I just love the reaction of the guy on the left after Marky said he thinks Obama's Indonesian and Muslim. It was that expression of, "talking to this guy is a lost cause."
If a Public Option included free Viagra, I wonder how many of these working stiffs would support it to keep their stiffs working.
Why is this guy on any nework but Fox? Anderson Cooper is a wuss, thank goodness Carville was there.
This mouthbreathing troglodyte took shots against the mother of a fallen soldier and Katrina victims. He's a class act through and through.
This complete idiot and his few thousand teabag morons, from the Reich party, are thankfully helping Dem's with their rabid racism, hatred, intolerance, lies and uneducated stupidity.
“The lunatic is the man who lives in a small world but thinks it is a large one; he is the man who lives in a tenth of the truth, and thinks it is the whole. The madman cannot conceive any cosmos outside a certain tale or conspiracy or vision.”
G.K. Chesterton
...that by the age of forty or so, you have the face you deserve. Which is why this doofus f**ktard looks exactly like the smug, lying, racist, fact-challenged xenophobic douchebag that he is.
a little something but is unable to articulate dissenting demonstrators expressions into a constructive debate.
Take for example his notion that it had been healthy for cities to be lit on fire in the 1960's (burn baby burn).
You'll never see a pompous air hog like Williams at the Timothy McVeigh gravesite wanting a group photo! Underneath the democracy in action bullsht these guys are skirting terror charges. If J. Edgar Hoover were alive, he would have beat the administration to the line and we'd see paddy wagons with whining moms 'n dads getting hauled away.
Question: Why do these folks complain about the economy but still afford a trip to DC, food, expensive DC lodging, topped off tanks of gas, missed work, have cartons of smokes nearby plus the black cape and sickle costume and still say that no one listens to them? This is Earth isn't it?
Normally can't stand to post a comment when the post number goes beyond 100+ but this dweeb takes the cake.
gay, right? Not that there's anything wrong with that.
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