Ted Kennedy RIP
One Year Ago Today
It was a privilege to be there.
RIP Teddy.
I was there too. It was awesome and Ted lit up Denver. I just heard historian Michael Beschloss say on MSNBC that when Ted was a boy he knew FDR. He saw it all and was part of so much American history.
Statement from The Kennedy Family:
“Edward M. Kennedy – the husband, father, grandfather, brother and
uncle we loved so deeply – died late Tuesday night at home in Hyannis
Port. We’ve lost the irreplaceable center of our family and joyous
light in our lives, but the inspiration of his faith, optimism, and
perseverance will live on in our hearts forever. We thank everyone
who gave him care and support over this last year, and everyone who
stood with him for so many years in his tireless march for progress
toward justice, fairness and opportunity for all. He loved this
country and devoted his life to serving it. He always believed that
our best days were still ahead, but it’s hard to imagine any of them
without him.”
This is suddenly going to blow the entire healthcare debate WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE open.
Yep. Anemic dem leadership... that can't anticipate obivous problems and developments like this.
Who was it that could have never guessed that terrorists would fly planes into buildings after being told they were going to?
Who was it that never knew the stockmarket was going to crash?
Who was it that didn't know that hurricane katrina was going to hit new orleans?
Who was it that never knew that Iraq would turn into a mess?
Should I go on and on and on?
republicanism is a mental illness!
I for one was never a Kennedy fan. But when compaired to any republican he was far and above a much better person, and represenative for the people.
Farewell Mr Kennedy and thank you!
George Bush at the Kennedy funeral, "Teddy left me a bottle of Old Fitzgerald. Is it here? Here? Maybe under this desk.".
What Democrat do you see fighting their a.. off for you as Kennedy has done.
Ted Kennedy never backed down from any republican or the republicans we have in the democrat party..
Just who would you pick as your favorite democrat..
As far as I am concern you can count them on ONE hand..
None
Expect some really ugly tactics on both sides in the coming weeks as both Dems and Reps accuse each other of being opportunistic or exploiting Kennedy's death as they push or obstruct the bill.
I think the Dems should use his death as a rallying cry and get some meaningful reform passed with a quickness...
I don't think Ted would mind...
Have now been too many republicans voted into our party on the democratic ticket ,,, funded , supported by Emanuel and other good republcans.
None
the end of an era
i am going to stay far away from right wing radio tomorrow, for i know they will all be saying terrible things about the man
it was teddy, not his brothers (for i was really too young to remember either) who got me excited about politics
two of my friend's fathers also passed away this week...so im really bummed now
i just hope he didnt have too much pain in the end
Yes, I, too, hope his passing was as peaceful as possible.
As a native New Englander, lifelong liberal & disabled American, Senator Ted probably meant more to me personally than others elsewhere in the country--but perhaps not. I know he was loved deeply by the people in his home state, and in return, he loved them, but more than that, he loved America.
Over the years, I've grown cynical, and disgusted with politicians in this country...but Ted Kennedy was different. He had genuine integrity, he truly loved being a senator--for all the right reasons--and he was a champion for the underdog.
I admire him more than any other politician I can think of, and I especially admire him as a human being. Like all of us, he was far from perfect, and had his share of flaws, but he never gave up on his calling, he never threw in the towel, even though he had any number of reasons to do so...but he was made of much sterner stuff.
He was a great man, & I loved him.
Thank you, Uncle Teddy.
Indeed, the Kennedy's and this country have just suffered a great loss. I fear we will not see such a champion for the American people again. RIP Ted, you will be missed, my thoughts and prayers to the family.
The way to properly honor this great man's memory is to finish the job he started. Shame on the Democrats if they pass a half measure of a universal healthcare bill!
Until you respect the citizenship of those with which you disagree, you're not a true American.
Several years ago I was at the airport in Palm Beach to pick up a family member. I looked up to see Sen. Kennedy standing right beside me. He smiled at me and nodded. I was in such awe at seeing him that I just stood there. I'm sure he thought I had some mental problems or something.
The Kennedy family has had so many sad days and many came too soon. Thank goodness we had this Kennedy for so long because he was able to do so much good for so many people. He will be missed by many.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Ted Kennedy was a real Democrat--not a Corporacrat posing as one. He was a rare commodity and now he's gone. No one will take his place. I'm sad.
Tears.....and then some...Ted Kennedy was A Real Liberal!!!!
I knew I'd be sad when he died and I am....
May he spirit live on.....forever...
One of the most moving talks he gave was the eulogy for his nephew John F. Kennedy, Jr. I knew he had so much inner humanity after he gave that speech which was very difficult for him and the rest of the family. I think he got very close to Caroline after the death of John Jr. That was also a very sad day and time for the Kennedy family.
I cant help but think about how this poor man will no longer have to deal with the deaths of his various famly members. His sister died last week, and now he has followed.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
I got 1 for you guys, CENTRAL KANSAS PRISON MINISTRY,
I have a new cool program, I can see the lat and longitude of the PC's ip showing in my router logs. You know I have been talking about online harrassment. Thinks maybe I found one of the organizations screwing with our computers.
http://www.ckpm.org/
spreading the love of Jesus by tracking and hacking pc's.......
I'll get a bit more specific, Latitude 38, Longitude -97.
Ip one of the 10 coming from there 65.55.239.188. It may not be the Prison Ministry itself but it for sure is working off the same massive pipe they have to the internet.
And also complain to Earthlink their hosting company, CKPM operate from a server in Florida. abuse@abuse.earthlink.net
Reddit, Digg, Wired and other social/tech sites would also be interested.
65.55.239.188 is a Microsoft IP address, has your PC been doing some OS updating !!!
No my PC doesn't update, lol. Thats a hotmail server, msn. Msft!!
I believe it is a lame hack, exploiting the the mailservers. I am getting so close, the little booger originates to Kansas, I only wonder if it is masked there too or is that truely the final destination? Once business hours begin for the usa here I will call me some ISP's and also will call Microsoft abuse again, FBI won't respond to me. The local police, haha? I just got to try to shut him down once in a while, think thats all i got.
If CKPM are doing dodgy things, then the oxygen of publicity on a few large popular social/tech biased websites will work wonders.
Post the details on one of the tech Reddit sections, others might have seen this too or can look out for it in their router logs. Either way you will get help from others there, and it will be flagged.
Once you and a few others there verify it, then the generally non technical peoples of C&L and DailyKos will appreciate the news.
I put it on reddit like you suggested, has already been voted down, not even 5 minutes after being posted. LOL
I've been doing that since at least 1998. *yawn*
you're an asshole to hijack a thread like this one.
Yea i have been tracing ips for about the same time, I thought this was an open thread, typically the last of the day, I guess I wasn't paying attention. Your an asshole for calling me an asshole with-in this thread , asshole.
I really thought this was the open thread, sorry John.
Ted became a giant among leaders and his leadership is sorely missed.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes? - Juvenal
We have used up so many, we are now in short supply. We know it is selfish, but we need them so, and, we fear that we will just meander without their sails to pull us through this sea of contention.
We do not need heroes. We need to step up to the plate and take responsibility and stop pushing other people to do it for us. We lack intestinal fortitude and that is why we lack the society we need.
Heroes come and go. The pain of human suffering remains because the rest of us accept it.
Always been the case, always will be.
Why? All the crap the Kennedys have been throught there life is more than one family should have to deal with. if god did give a shit he would have called the last VP, or called the bad people and told them there time is up, you have done so much harm to my people "YOU" need to go. Noooooooo, he takes the GOOD guys and leaves us with all the assholes. We need more PEOPLE LIKE JOHN, ROBERT AND TED.
never forget.
A damn shame. RIP Senator Kennedy.
So much for that majority!
6 months to get Franken seated
2 months of an unused 60 vote majority
5 more months to replace Kennedy
It will be 2010 before Obama feels any sense of urgency. He's probably delighted; now he has an excuse not to fight till February. 2009 is a write-off because of Obama's anemic, apologetic leadership. But hey, it's only time.
I didn't vote for this sluggish crap.
Did you have to go there on this post? Couldn't you show some respect for the Senator's life and death and save the political stuff for later?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
He wouldn't want any Democrat to lift their guard for a moment and allow the Republicans to win the day. The best memorial is business as usual and fight the good fight in his honour.
I think Sen. Kennedy would agree also...too much at stake now to slow down...if anything...the pressure needs to increase.
We can mourn later, right now, we got a big fight with the obstructionist GOP to contend with...
Massachusetts Governor Would OK Law Change for Kennedy Successor
"Unlike most states, a successor to a vacant U.S. Senate seat in Massachusetts is chosen by special election, not appointed by the governor.
"In a recent letter to lawmakers, Kennedy, who died Tuesday night, said the law should be changed to allow the governor to appoint someone to serve in the Senate during the course of the election — provided that person pledge not to run for the seat."
And the rest of the threads are not political? "This is suddenly going to blow the entire healthcare debate WIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDE open."
That was really, REALLY uncalled for. How about you take your vitriol somewhere else?
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
dont like what is going on, move some where, like BFE. We did vote for Obama and HE IS THE PRESIDENT> get over it.
On msnbc they are talking about how Senator Kennedy could work with both sides of the aisle. I'm thinking maybe that was because what he believed in came sincerely from his heart and was not a dictate of the money that supported him.
I think I have cried about the Kennedy family even more than I have cried about my own family. Their deaths are milestones in so many of our own lives.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
pissed off patricia
"I think I have cried about the Kennedy family even more than I have cried about my own family. Their deaths are milestones in so many of our own lives"
This time I think I will add about twenty Cognacs.
eom
I'm getting at that age where even 77 doesn't sound that old.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
seems like a pipedream to achieve...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
For so many years and through so many tragic events the Kennedy family has always had "Uncle Teddy" to lean on, who will they have to lean on today?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
as they have had to so many, many times before.
I have a knot in the pit of my stomach and a tear in my eye.
God bless you, Senator. Thank you so much for everything. Thank you for looking out for all the Average Joes out there.
"A man who views the world the same at fifty as he did at twenty has wasted thirty years of his life."....Muhammad Ali
Wed, 08/26/2009 - 03:19 — pissed off patricia
A bartop?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I wasn't this upset when my (maternal) grandmother died. Let's hope his legacy of social justice is honored by getting this health care reform pushed through. What a sad day...
He ripped the Republicans a new one rather eloquently, they were blocking the 10 year late raising of the minimum wage. What Sen. Edward Kennedy said about minimum wage and its slavery level, also applies to rationed health care in America.
President Obama could call the HI reforms the 'Ted Kennedy Reform Bill', and dare the Repigs to block it.
Great idea, the Ted Kennedy Public Option.
I think that the "public" part would be understood to be existant...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
you spamming ingrate bitch.
Ya done mostly good. Thanks for your life and the better of your choices that you made. Go in peace.
to the Kennedy family and to all Americans.
Rest in peace, Ted. You will be missed.
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And we will not see its' like come again.
Despite all the tragedies in his life, including facing his own personal extinction, he still...kept...fighting.
Ave atque vale, Senator. Mr. Wellstone's in good company...
You did good work here Ted. You will be missed.
...is to pass a really good Health Care Bill...
This is the time for Democrats, and Obama in particular, to show the respect that Ted Kennedy deserved for his 42 years in the Senate by passing the one bill that was most important to his life. It seems to me that the final bill, which should also be named after Ted, should give us the real public option that the great majority of Americans want and that Kennedy had not yet managed to get us.
Ted's ability to cross the aisle and bring in Republicans... and his support over the years for many of his Republican colleagues on civil legislation... should be stressed by Dodd and the other Senators that Ted trusted with his concerns when the brain tumor kept him out of DC. This is the time to call in the notes that Ted gave out over the years.
It would be, I think, a tremendous embarrassment to the Republicans, like Orrin Hatch and Charles Grassley NOT to support a Ted Kennedy Health Care Bill. And though they would probably come out against it, by using Kennedy's name here, they would also be defeating Republican challengers in man of the 2010 elections.
I hope Obama realizes the immense opportunity available at this moment.
Under The LobsterScope
...out of respect for ourselves. The CEO of United Health Care Group makes $102,000 an hour and has furbished each room of his mansion to the tune of $87,000 by denying care to people who end up dying. How is this different from exterminating people for profit?
But as we know from history both recent and old, they are interchangeable.
That's CEO's pay is a damn shame. And the fact that the villagers are defending him is a damn crime. This bill MUST be passed with a public option. Anything less is a smack in the face to us all.
NOBODY 2012
We knew this day would come, but knowing that doesn't assuage the sense of loss. Words fail me. So much of his work needs to be continued, but who will pick up the mantle and carry on?
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
"For all those whose cares have been our concern, the work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives and the dream shall never die."
Ted Kennedy
1980, on giving up
his campaign for
president
My wife & I were very sad to wake up to this...
The Kennedy Family has had to go through so much, its gut wrenching. They are truly America's family. From JFK, to Bobby, to Teddy....what great men these were, I'm just sorry I wasn't alive to see the older brothers in person.
I agree with many of the posts above...the best way to honor him is to pass a healthcare reform bill that covers all americans. Universal coverage. We can wait for single payer, but the 'public option' is a definitive must have.
Message to all Democratic representatives: If you want to honor this man's legacy....YOU WILL PASS HEALTHCARE LEGLISLATION THAT COVERS ALL AMERICANS...its time to join the 21st Century.
RIP Teddy....you've done so much good for so many. Liberals/Progressives all thank you from the bottom of our hearts.
"Its better to have a bleeding heart, then none at all."
We don't inherit the Earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children - Native American proverb
If being cold means there's no such thing as global warming, does being full mean there's no such thing as world hunger?
I love that last line/quote in your comment.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
The family lives on.
So do we.
Book the First: Poverty
Chapter 12: Bleeding Heart Yard
I need to revisit Dickens.
what is this?
RIP Senator.
I hope people remember him with respect. And I dare anyone on the right to talk sideways about the man.
Thank you Ted.
NOBODY 2012
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCbuRA_D3KU
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=852gverKRPo&fe...
Be as you wish to seem
I was caught off guard a bit (but not surprised) to hear the news of his passing when I awoke this morning. What a lousey way to start the day with such awful news.
But my politico-mind is already grinding: who succeeds him? Special election? Governor appointment?
His illness was already affecting the healthcare debate, and his successor will only compound that.
PS: How long before we hear a Republican blame his death on the "government healthcare" he received? (thinking Grassley redux.)
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
grassley reflux?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
REST IN PEACE SEN KENNEDY. You can now rest
Mourning will go on all over the world, except for the dank, murky corners of the right-wing, which will obsess over reliving whatever ugliness they can find.
For me, this brought back memories of waking up to hear that another Kennedy had died, when RFK was assassinated.
I hope Congressional Dems are woken up by this and the recognition of what one determined man can do. I hope they use this as a rallying cry to push through the health care Kennedy worked on for DECADES.
Bring on the Ted Kennedy Health Care Act of 2009!! Let the Right name every building and road after Reagan that they want - let health care for all Americans be the legacy of Ted Kennedy.
Mary Jo Kopechne.
I guess we can ask these paragons of virue if they're upset that Dick Cheney shot somebody in the face, that George Bush paid for girlfriends' abortions, and that Laura Bush killed her boyfriend in a Texas intersection.
Oh, wait, reich-wingers are perfect. Reich-wingers believe in "do as I say, not as I do" school." Reich-wingers can get away with things because they're above it all -- the chosen ones, as it were.
It's often difficult to ignore the vile and egregious spewings of the knuckle-draggers, but today I shall do so. It's a day to mourn the greatest senator this nation has ever known.
BID
This inquiring mind wants to know.
[For now, a certain name will trigger the auto violate, because it will be used basically the way you said-Sitemonitor]
Rip Teddy.
Have you ever compared the Kennedy family and what they have done for the country and the poor, have you ever compared them with the Bush family and they way they have taken advantage of America and came within a whisker of destroying America and the way they have used poor people and stolen and cheated and lied?
Were the biggest threat to the repugs and the corporate gods, and they got them out of the pictuer one at a time. One can only hope the dems will pull there head out of there ass and get some good work done in Teds name.
Their family was certainly the most feared by the GOP.
Farewell Teddy.
God bless.
Rest in Peace Senator Kennedy.
You will be missed by many.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
And so many of them there were. see your older brothers, your father, your mother, your sisters and all who have preceeded you. they welcome you with open arms and a few words of well done.
No one has ever come back to give us the information from beyond that we all crave. I truly believe that as important as the issues that face us all in in our petty world are essentially meaningless in the beyond. who of us can truly dispute that. yet, that is not to minimize what faces us as a world people or as a nation today. I only can hope that Teddy reaches out and touches a leader who will pick up his staff and lead us in a like direction and with the same courage in which he always led regardless of the repercussions. Rest in peace teddy boy, we truly loved you.
F yourself, you scumbag
Mouthing off at the death of a much, much beloved person.
The nation has lost a champion of the people. And you mouth off.
You tiny brained sack of S***.
You scumbag.
Frontiers*** (not a man in my view) what makes you think you're b.s. is wanted here. You just give us a target to jump on when you come over here. Kind of like a fly entering your house. Get the swatter!
so someone flush it
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I'm sure you're just as concerned that Dick Cheney shot a man in the face, George Bush paid for girlfriends' abortions and Laura Bush killed her boyfriend in a Texas intersection.
And, of course, you've never made a mistake or shown temporary lack of judgment.
I suggest you follow McJeff's advice.
BID
for anyone that been a "member" of this fine site for mere hours. There are plenty of other websites for you pal. Beat it.
Sh*thead.
NOBODY 2012
President Obama has stated the obvious this morning.
We have just seen the passing of the best Senator our nation has ever had. He has done more than anyone else there.
His family is very much suffering right now, and I send to them my very deepest sympathies along with prayers for healing.
We thank you, Ted, for all you did for us. We will Miss you, Ted. You will always and forever be our friend, our best, beloved friend.
Beyond this message to you, Senator Kennedy, I ask that the members of the Senate remaining pass the health care bill, robust with public choice, as soon as possible, in your name, and stop the suffering of millions across our land who are presently suffering from both illness that can't be helped and from financial disaster impending from horrifically high premiums. All who fight this mandate of the people should truly be ashamed. All that's needed is 51 human beings to stand up for what is right.
obama your tribute to kennedy would be to stand up on your principles, quit playing nice-nice with the right, quit with the watering down of the bill to appeal to the right and the lilly livered dems who are afraid to rock the boat. STAND UP MAN, AND DO WHAT'S RIGHT. NOT WHAT'S POLITICALLY EXPEDIENT.
Right on!
Some how, some way, Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly and all the other conservative blowhards will offer their sarcastic acknowledgment of Senator Kennedy's passing. And you just know they will cry like babies in need of a diaper change about the prospect of this sad event's influence on Healthcare bill passage. One of Kennedy's biggest achievements will be driving these people crazy even after his death. The prospect puts a smile on my face for sure.
"One of Kennedy's biggest achievements will be driving these people crazy even after his death. The prospect puts a smile on my face for sure."
Thank you, Planet73, that made me smile too, and I really needed a smile this morning, and some hope for the future.
on a site called crooks and liars. Perfect.
May your compassion, or lack thereof, return to you multiplied in your time of greatest need.
Fuck you Troll
NOBODY 2012
I believe I already said that...
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Freepers, remember who you are [Kennedy Death]
Today, a human being died. He is now in eternity. Whether or not he made any private repentance of what he did concerning Mary Jo, abortion, or any other sin he committed in this life is not known. We may doubt seriously that he did since he showed no inclination in his public life. But we do not know. Only God knows.
What we do know is that we have a longstanding tradition on Free Republic. We hold our tongues when someone dies. We do not act like the people on Democrat underground who rejoiced when Tony Snow and Ronald Reagan died. We do not make fun or light of death or hell, for they are very serious things indeed; and if Kennedy died without Christ where he is today isn't a place we should wish on anyone (if you understand the implications, you will understand that statement).
Yes, he did a very bad thing in the 60s. He did not get away with it and no amount of Freeper piling on will change things one way or another.
So, while you may have hated the man, please self moderate your comments. We are not the D.U. We are not the Koz. We are Free Republic and we can not allow them to make us into them or we have lost something very important about this site.
"Those people"
"Those people"
"Those people"
"Those people"
CNN article: 'Littlest refusenik' on Kennedy: 'He saved my life'
http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/26/littlest...
I just couldn't be prepared for this...
I was in high school in Canada when brother John was gunned down, and in college in Massachusetts when brother Bobby was gunned down. Now I am almost ready for retirement, and I sit here in California with tears in my eyes at the loss of this wonderful man. He was a great family representative, and a great Senator. Overall, he did more for the people of the US than the vast majority of senators of his era. He was not only a representative of his state, but also a representative of "we the people".
Ted, we will mis you...
, and thank you Teddy for helping to make it harder to discriminate against me because I have a disability. I know that you have championed my life and the lives of countless others over your years, and I can't thank you enough.
Rest in peace, and say hi to John and Bobby.
I've never seen change without a fire
I'm a lifelong Masssachusetts citizen, and am VERY proud of the good Teddy has done for my state, the country, and the world.
He will be missed.
Today, i discovered that on some right wing blogs, and on some right wing radio shows, right wingers were expressing delight, and at times glee that Ted Kennedy died..(This from the so called 'culture of life)
Listen- when you see or hear right wingers do this, ignore them- We all know the right wing are capible of only one emotion- and that is the hatred; aimed at everything, and everyone....
Rush Limbagh has already mocked Ted Kennedy's death...
Nor is it even really glee or delight; it's the relief that a palpable threat to their beloved status-quo has been, for lack of a less crass word, 'neutralised'. In other words, it's raw naked cowardice.
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