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It's Republican Bipartisan Week.

(I posted this yesterday, but I had to put it up again with Heather's video. The media is still lining up Republicans to whine and complain and flash republican talking points over Obama's speech earlier. Yesterday the Today Show had on Mitch McConnell to say Republicans work better with Obama than Democrats and this morning Matt Lauer interviewed Bill Kristol.)

Watching smug Republicans getting all this air time to smear the DemocRAT for not being bipartisan is sickening and it's a product of this bipartisan love-fest...

There are more Repubs on TV than I've ever seen. Rep. Mike Pence is smugly standing there on Hardball and denouncing the Democrats for not following Obama's call for kinship is nauseating. Their conservative ideas have caused this economic problem, but the media makes no mention of it. Now, back to the bipartisan weenie roast crying fest from the republicans. Here's what they said before Obama even met with them this morning:

House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) went for the jugular, urging his members to oppose the economic centerpiece of Obama's first term just hours before the president paid the Republicans the compliment of coming to the Capitol for a private meeting — even before he did the same for House Democrats.

The Republicans are already torpedoing any possible bipartisan framework towards the stimulus bill, but they stand there with a straight face and lie to the cameras.

Here's Pence in 2007 talking about Saddam:

Wolf: "You know a lot of people believe that the whole weapons of mass destruction was a charade. The real reason was oil."

Pence: "Right. Well we, I mean, but, in point of fact, uh, Saddam Hussein did have chemical weapons of mass destruction. He used them against the population in Kurdistan"


As Digby says
:

It's Republican day on the cable networks. They are crawling over every show like fire ants.

The GOP hissy fit has worked like a charm. The villagers are all on the same page: the "problem," as always, is that Democrats are not doing everything they are precisely told to do by the Republicans. They are being partisan. The Republicans weeping and wailing like Victorian spinsters works every time.

Look, I blame the Democrats for this too. They needed to explain that the government has to spend money directly to create jobs, whether it's a job working backstage at Shakespeare in the Park or putting in new lawns on the mall or staffing family planning clinics. It's all jobs, many of which already exist and will be kept rather than lost if the feds can kick in some money. Tax cuts are used to stimulate demand, but the last round didn't halt the slide. Neither has interest rate cuts. None of the usual stuff is working. That's why a direct injection of federal money into the economy is required.



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Men such as this regularly come out of the woods in Indiana. Go back as far a Beveridge [sp?] nativists, imperialists, racists, dumb. Quite representative of his district. Indiana has such poor public education, yet such good basketball.

... Hoosiers couldn't jump? :)

Mike Pence is always smug.

Indiana did go for Obama...

this bullshit of treating the repig gop
like they have any intention of bipartisanship

is the same thing as if a bully was beating the
crap out of you and while he is doing it, you invite
him over for dinner.

enough, fuck these assholes and pass the agenda
like promised in the debates and the election
promises to represent the people not the
special interests. democrats get some BALLS !!!
I am a democrat and getting madder each day
the fucking repigs are allowed to throw hissy fits
and get away with it.

and you didn't see this coming John? the status quo must be maintained.

What conservative ideas, John? They aren't conservatives. They are whackjobs that do nothing. That's why the economy is so screwed. They sit back and do nothing.

I think this is part of Obama's strategy...the longer they diddle with themselves, the more likely they get voted out. The bill will pass and they'll look like idiots. I think a few concessions were built in for a little victory for wingnuts.

bipartisan unity my ass
It's time for the lovefest to end and let the minority party know who won.
I didnt vote for him to play nice.

That was one of the biggest hesitations many I know had about Obama. His need to "play nice" as you say would be his undoing. Too bad Michelle wasn't the one we elected. You know she'd be having none of this right now. :)

Isn't it odd that none of these Reptilicans or their toadying surrogates from the so-called press seem able to remember that during the entire period the gangsters from the GOP held the majority that the Democrats were entirely shut out? Now, good heavens, bipartisanship is the rule of the day.

Obama and those spineless Democrats who stand ever ready to cave, need to accept that there is no bargaining with sociopaths. They only serve themselves, and not a one of them could give a damn about the country. It is absurd to attempt to accomodate them, and persisting in attempts to do so, despite all the mountainous evidence pointing to the futility of it, rapidly pushes the concept beyond heroic foolishness and into the realms of complicity.

These guys don't belong in positions of trust and authority, most of them belong in prison. They are unrepentent, irredeemable criminals.

We've run "right" off the road and are headed for a cliff. Obama seems to think instead of turning left back toward the road, or continue turning right into oncoming traffic, it's best to just swivel the steering wheel a bunch.

As a backseat driver, I'd like to recommend turning left and get back to the road.

my wife couldnt have said it better..

or as Yogie would say, It's Unity 08 all over again.

I was just over at "USNews.com" reading a piece about Obama's meeting with Republicans today and was caught by the first three comments from readers:

Crybaby
First he takes a shot at Limbaugh, now Fox News. Is it just me or does this President seem awfully thin-skinned?

They have the majority and don't need the Repubs so why are they scared
Obama wants the Republicans to go along so he will have someone to blame since they must feel this isn't going to work. Otherwise, they would just go ahead and pass the thing since they don't need to Republican votes. And why does Obama always have to bring up FoxNews and Rush Limbaugh. This man is nothing but divisive. There is nothing about him that is bipartisan and nothing about him that isn't sneaky. To me it seems so obvious but the policicans and news media people are like high schoolers that want to be cool and with the in crowd, to go along. Are their any grownups in the crowd anymore?

The Audacity
GOP people need to wake up. This guy is going to push the most radical leftist agenda in U.S. history. This country is a center-right country and we should keep centrist policies in place. Contrary to people thinking Obama doesn't have a clue, it's scary to actually realize he has a clue and the first seven days of his administration should put the GOP on alert.

No playing favorites. The Dems want to silence us. We can't just kill them with kindness. This isn't some Student Senate from your college days.

http://www.usnews.com/blogs/washington-whispe...

So, for "playing nice" it has lead the right to think the Dems know the plan will fail, that Obama is a baby and that Repubs are being too nice... Seems the ice in their veins just won't thaw no matter what you do.

lets see, during the campaign, rush and the other repukes basically called obama a terrorist commie who would hand over the country to islamic radicals and if anything was left over, would turn into a big comune....rush and others use the race card, trying to scare people out of voting for a black man

that was for an entire year

rush goes on national tv and says "i want obama to fail"...he then continues to spew hate and bile

fox news does exactly the same shit

repugs seemed to feel indebted to rush since 1994, despite the fact that continuing to use his playbook has almost destroyed the nation and made the repukes a more polarizing party then ever before

did obama say that rush is an fat, evil pedo? nope

he just told the reps bluntly...if you continue to hearken to a guy who wants me to fail...then we will never come to any terms...

doesnt sound thin skinned to me

EGG

ZAKLY!

We're never going to get the deference out of the Republican's that Bush got out of the Democrats for the last 8 years. The Republican have always favor those who make money from the labors of others, rather than wage earners. Their economic wet dream is to create economic inherited dynasties, by eliminating taxes on dividends, interest, and estates. I was taught in history class that "Inherited dynasties" was expressly what was being targeted when estate taxes were first passed. Unable to find that in history texts nowadays.

The Republicans have never been too concerned about the working man and woman, and that is why they didn't mind Bush nearly doubling the deficits, because they knew that meant it would be more difficult for the U.S. to meet its social contract with workers on Social Security and Medicare.

Under Bush, the wealthy made out, so their emissaries, the Republicans will strive to maintain the status quo. Meanwhile, I'm not so sure that the stimulus plan is going to do any more than kick the ball down the road a bit.

While the instant crisis is here and now because investment banks colluded with the rating agencies to grade collateral backed securities "AAA" that were actually junk grade, in order that they could be sold for more than they were worth, there are several other things that have aggravated the crisis. First, our health care system costs too much and delivers too little. We need to copy a system used in another country that cost less and delivers more. We don't need to be reinventing the wheel. Second, we need to stop playing the world's policeman. For instance, we don't need to start a new arms race with the Russians. Third, there was regulations enacted since the 1930s depression that kept us out of further depressions that were repealed, and lo and behold, it's looking like depression II.

But finally, the last thing I see is these free trade arrangements, started under Clinton, and embraced by both political parties that directly thrusted our manufacturing base into competition with $1/hr labor forces. It was intuitively clear that this arrangement would damage our manufacturing base, and reduce our standard of living. So now, while Obama goes hat in hand to Congress for funding for his bailout, China, who has a healthy manufacturing base, holds $1.2T cash, and $400B in treasury notes, enough to finance Obama's bailout twice. The free trade is not a Republican/Democrat issue - Buchanan opposes it, so does Kuchinich, and most famously, Ross Perot. I think even in food, we're now a net importer. I wonder what it will take for people to realize that if you trash your manufacturing, you trash your economy.

I don't see any hope of obtaining Republican cooperation in fixing any of the fundamental issues that are making the economy weak. And I think we're out of bubbles to obtain financing from. I saw Krugman advocating the printing of money. The German's tried that after World War I and wound up pushing shopping carts full of marks to buy groceries. While Krugman is a bright boy, I'll give you another bright boy who has a PhD in economics - Phil Gramm. Greenspan should be the lesson to us all in elevating anyone to guru status - while Greenspan skippered up through many years, in the end, his belief that banks could self regulate in their shareholder's interests ultimate has brought Depression II to the doorstep.

First thing: the Republican neocons had their chance for the past eight years… no… since 1994. They screwed this up about as bad as it could be screwed up. They are lucky anybody listens to anything they say because they are not relevant.

Pence: "Right. Well we, I mean, but, in point of fact, uh, Saddam Hussein did have chemical weapons of mass destruction. He used them against the population in Kurdistan"

I'm not sure if it's true, but in this video, at around the 4 min. mark, they say the chemical weapons, for which Pence notes in his comment, were related to Ronnie Reagan?

“they say the chemical weapons, for which Pence notes in his comment, were related to Ronnie Reagan?”

When Reagan was President, there was a war between Iran and Iraq. I think we armed Iraq with chemical weapons to be used against the Iranians.

:-)

The attack on Halabja was a devastating attack that killed up to 5,000 civilians and occurred over a period of hours through the night March 16-17, 1988. Let me repeat that: it occurred through the night. Multiple sorties were needed as the Tabun nerve agent quickly dissipates in the air. Massive amounts needed to be used to inflict casualties.

This is precisely what has been glossed over all too often wherever there has been discussion of WMDs. It took multiple sorties throughout the night to inflict the casualties. It was never the proposition that a single, covert release could equate with the devastation of Halabja. Can you imagine a foe with unchallenged control of the skies bombing for hours over an American city?

The reason that chemical weapons, which have been around for ages, have never been decisive on the battlefield is that they have never been very effective or easy to control. Halabja was full of people who could not fight back and could not defend themselves and it was horrible. Does anybody still believe that a WMD attack can be conducted to yield similar results in a manner that seriously threatens us? Are we numb to facts?

Second thing is that the Republicans are obstructionists. I listened to Meet the Press via podcast today and John Boehner did nothing but try to obstruct Obama from trying to save the economy that Boehner and Bush and the rest of the Republicans screwed up so badly. The Obama team understands this thing. Boner said there is a lot of spending in the Democratic bill. Duhhhhhhh! He said he has proposals that he thought would work better. The Republican proposals have failed for 8 years. They want to give the richest 1% MORE tax breaks because they say they will invest in jobs. Well how well has that worked out in the past eight years since the Republicans gave them tax breaks? That is the only proposal they have come up with. Give their rich friends more tax breaks.

They need to get their asses off the campaign trail and start serving the country. Boehner is the most hypocritical, slick, no it all out there. That "Oh my God" line just burned me. His party has sent this country into the worst tailspin we have ever seen and now he's making it sound like the Democrats are going to break what's left. Like I want to listen to anything he has to say. It's like listening to a snake oil salesman tell the public how to fix a cowlick during an epidemic.

They say that they need more tax breaks for the very very very rich assholes. They say that it will create more jobs. We have history to see how well that worked. It has not worked. If we are going to give tax breaks to people to create jobs just change the $250,000 ceiling that Obama has for tax cuts and move it to $500,000 or $750,000. But that is a false paradigm as well because if somebody who owns a small business needs to hire somebody else they will do it. The new employee is a tax write off. They don't pay taxes on what they pay their new employee. It is all bullshit that somebody cannot hire somebody because of taxes.

ITA

the corporate owned obstructionists and their friends won't be happy until Americans work for free.

Boehner complains about money to fix up the National Mall by the Washington Monument. And "$200,000,000 for contraceptives". Here is his just lying. And it shows how he is an obstructionist. There is no $200,000,000 for contraceptives. He lied!! Does he hate America? Why would he lie to make a false point when we need to get this thing fixed. We are in dire straights!! And Boehner and the Republicans are playing politics and they need to be exposed.

He is complaining about giving aid to the states!! First he uses the example of $300,000,000,000 to states and in the next sentence he said $166,000,000,000 in direct aid to states. $140,000,000,000 in education funding. WTF is he trying to say? I'll tell you. He is trying to make it sound like way too much money. Like it is a waste (for him it is a waste because Obama is not pouring into his rich friend's pockets. Well EVERY god damn economist says you cannot spend too much money because it is such a huge problem. You cannot spend too much money because it is impossible to spend too much money. Every example he used is money that is going to be spent and consumed and helps the economy. Boehner is obstructing.

but boehner says all this BS because media lets him.

I totally agree that he should start ducking, lots of tomatoes and shoes flying his way soon.

Yup

None of this BS is going to stop until the FCC is returned to integrity and made to enforce its own regulations regarding licensee obligations to inform the public. So long as the users of OUR airwaves and OUR bandwidth are abusing their licenses through their shameless lies and propagandizing, they forfeit all rights to continued use of those licenses. Thats TV and cable vroadcasters, radio broadcasters and telecoms.

Obama must clean up the FCC and compell that agency to represent the People's interests first. As it is now, it's just a cat house that exists exclusively to service the desires of it's exclusive clients, the would-be elites.

So who would you put in charge of regulating the airwaves and how would they do it?

I just reread your comment and omg, ITA!!! he's so transparent. It's like wah, I'm not making any money off this deal so I'm not going to go along. I'm not going to get any credit for this deal, so I'm not going to go along. I have this job for Me. Big beautiful boehner Me. Selfish ass.

Pence is a fakir. A poseur. A tool. He's an anachronism and doesn't even know it.

Keep it up, Mike!

-AF

of fictional revisionism?
"Their conservative ideas have caused this economic problem"
I think there is enough blame for everyone on this one.

I thought deregulation and laissez-faire economics were conservative staples. Sure Clinton helped with both, but he was quite conservative economically.

Also, what is "fictional revisionism"? Is that like when a paperback version of a romance novel has some new changes?

Boehner is a smarmy bastard. The repubs do not want to work together and Obama needs to realize that and just ignore them. Doesn't anyone have pictures of Boehner, et al with sheep?

Does this count?

no, needs to be a 4 legged sheep.

ugly does not count?

It is good that President Obama tried to work with the bastards, so that the whole world could see exactly what these thugs are about.

They continue to take kick backs from their corporate pimps, to screw the hell out of the American people.

They are letting us know that we did not eliminate enough of their asses and come 2010, we need to blast as many of them as we can, clean out of public office and into the unemployment lines, becasuse they surely cannot check in to their favorite corporate office, as President Obama, has already fixed that little cubby hole

And the media helps with the brainwashing.

Thank you. I was afraid it was just my imagination. Especially Boner. I'm sure I never saw this much of the minority party under bushco.

naturally.

..Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-DUMB.

I was just checking up on Mikey's bio and found that after law school he was a talk show host in (wait for it) RUSHville, Indiana, which could possibly explain his tendency to be smug and stupid at the same time.

In the absence of the Dems mounting a tough sales and PR campaign the media is left to believe the BS the repubs spew as truth. The repubs will do what they have done for the last 8 years, play politics and put their own political agendas above the well being of the American people. The repubs are using their number one play in their playbook, accuse your opponent of doing exactly what you are doing. Until the Dems learn to fight and define an issue they will lose EVERY battle. They are in power now act like it.

...I have to hope this is some kind of Obama "Rope-A-Dope" strategy.

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OK, it's now officially time to start shoving a liberal leftist agenda down their throats.

Cantor. God, I can't stand to see that little prick. I'm gonna shoot a lot of TVs in the coming years, I can tell...

do it before june, ok?

There is no point in trying to work with people like John "Boner". He decided before the election that, if Obama won, they would not cooperate with him on anything. Boner even said as much. All of the republican shills have been saying this in one way or another all along.
I can see the need for Obama to show that he is trying. But after a little while, he can just give up on them and say, "hey, we tried, but they are not interested."
Then the dems can just get to work and get things done, like we've been waiting for.

The right wing will not be reasoned with. They must be squashed like insects.

Boner is correct. Saadam did have weapons of mass destruction, which the U.N. inspectors secured prior to the U.S. invasion. Those weapons, and technologies that enabled manufacture of WMD and weapons delivery systems, bio-toxins, and the like, were provided to Saadam in the early 1980s by the Reagan Administration when Reagan took Iraq off the U.S. gov't list of "terrorist" states. The provision of WMD technologies continued long AFTER Saadam gased the Kurds with weapons provided to him by the U.S.

Saadam's trial (for which he was eventually hanged) included a phase of prosecution predicated on his crimes committed in 1982, when he was a favored U.S.. client and known killer.

So, yeah, Boner is correct. But as usual he (and the mainstream media) completely miss the real story.

trust a filthy lying republican!

When does Boner have time to do anything? He looks like he spends the better part of the day in a tanning bed that is when he's not choking- up and crying about anything!

Like fastfeat above, I also thought it was my imagination that I was seeing more of an "opposition" view in the press than ever in the previous 8 years. They're everwhere!

Also, amazing isn't it that the press-media-talking heads no longer seem too timid to speak back to power? Have you observed how confrontational the White House press conferences have been this week? Maybe the press has lost their fear of their phones being tapped, which I hear was a common occurrence under BushCo.

WHAT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA IS ALL ABOUT!

This has been the longest week ever!! I don't see much (any) change, from the Right. Pres. Obama needs to put his foot down and make sure this stimulus package is passed WITHOUT any concessions to the right. I get that he's trying to 'play nice' but it ain't working!You can't play nice with those people, they don't even know the meaning of the word. It was 'life or death' when it came to bailing out Wall St. but what about WE THE PEOPLE???

It's going to be a long 4 years........

Pence is an isolated, indoctrinated, ignorant right-wing American fascist sociopath. And yes, he's from Indiana. So am I. Now, let's be honest EVERY state produces at least one thug; hell, there's probably right-wingers at Berkeley, too.
Barry (Obama), you play hoops, right? What you're doing with the rethuglicans is like giving the opposing team the ball---at YOUR end of the court! Ya gotta stop doing that, 'cause your opponent ain't gonna do it when they get the ball.
Note to ALL Dems: stop playing nice. Tell the reptillians to sit down and shut up. Then pass a progressive agenda. Game over!

I get why Pres Obama needs to be (or appear to be) bi-partisan, but he is playing right into their hands. They will grandstand and take whatever they can out of the bill (ie birth control etc) and put in whatever they can (ie remove AMT)...and then they will all vote "NO" making the Dems and Obama look incredibly stupid. And then when the stimulus fails, which it likely will, they get to campaign on their brilliant stand.
We WON the election. They (who moved congressional meetings to rooms and buildings and then didn't tell the Dems on the committees from 2000=2006) have no right to set the terms. They are lucky to be invited to the dance.
Obama needs to play out the bipartisanship a little longer and then he needs to go out and do the right thing for this country...which the NeoCons and Republicans never wanted to do.
The failure of this economy was a goal of the Bush administration (poor economy = a lot more people signing up to be soldiers) ...it just happened a bit too soon for their own good. They don't now and never did care about the majority of the people in this country..why would we think they would care now? Its all about political theater and collecting soundbites for 2010.

... that he is dealing with hockey moms and dads without lipstick.

You don't make deals with pitbulls.


Tue, 01/27/2009 - 19:17 — Captain Kangaroo

Second thing is that the Republicans are obstructionists. I listened to Meet the Press via podcast today and John Boehner did nothing but try to obstruct Obama from trying to save the economy that Boehner and Bush and the rest of the Republicans screwed up so badly. The Obama team understands this thing. Boner said there is a lot of spending in the Democratic bill. Duhhhhhhh! He said he has proposals that he thought would work better. The Republican proposals have failed for 8 years. They want to give the richest 1% MORE tax breaks because they say they will invest in jobs. Well how well has that worked out in the past eight years since the Republicans gave them tax breaks? That is the only proposal they have come up with. Give their rich friends more tax breaks

Yep, Pres. Obama needs to tell Boner & the rest of the Repukes that the American people elected HIM to clean up the last 8 years of Bush & GOP mess & they need to sit down & shut the hell up.

I humbly submit the Franklin Cover-Up special scheduled to air on The Discovery Channel and then canceled that details the hypocrisy and depravity of this group of humans.

They sure don't get enough attention for this stuff.

Why? Cuz the rich corporation owners are even scared of each other. That's why there is no confidence in the system. Want to see things turn around economically? Bring some damn justice into the system, and investigate, charge and punish the greedy bastards that did this. From bank fraudsters, to corrupt politicians, to corrupt corporate BS. Bring some damn accountability. That's what is hurting the economy. People were ripped off. People are mad. Nobody was held accountable, but rather rewarded for this economic meltdown. And it continues on with the Dems now in power. Complete bullsh*t is what it is.

Are the repubs pretending to like Obama cause he's smoove like dat, and is working them hard like a playa works the ugly girl at a frat party, or just cause they know he's so popular they can't afford to call him all the names they'd like to?

OR

Sorry, can't mention that last one I was thinking of.

as hard as the host tried, pence would not smear obama

oh, he did goof a little by saying "first time i met the guy...."

but then jumped back into character and said..."i must speak respectfully about the president....first time i met president obama"

they are trying to use a tact that dems did not speak respectfully about bush, because the hated him for no reason....that is why the repugs are playing this game...thats all

and then they are letting their minions continue the name calling and smear tactics, and never once correcting them

in regards to disusting use of the term demorcRAT party?

they do it all the time

they do it in front of dem reps

in front of newspeople who know better

can we please force these asshats to stop using the term

or at least can dem reps only use the term "repug party"

thank you

Yes

They've been corrected on it numerous times. They're just dicks.

cuz ive never seen them be corrected

would be nice for a host to say

"senator, if you continue to use the term "democrat party" im sorry, but i cannot continue the interview

You're confusing correcting and having a spine. I can't recall specifically but all last year (maybe the year before) it was a briefly a big issue in the media.

which media?

The msm just let them get away with it ad nauseum - it's a code and it should be called out. If I was picked for the new MSNBC time slot - I would stop them mid sentence and earnestly say "Who are you talking about? You realize that it is Democratic and not Democrat don't you? - Then why do you say it correctly?" Once they realize they have to waste time off message it will go away. Call them out - do not be a tool! You are a tool MSM! Think about it this way Mr. Mathews - substitute "My MSM Tool" in when they say "Chris".

This slur displays contempt and that is destructive to discourse - period. Get your head out of your ass. Just another thing the MSM accepts and allows because of their non-liberal bias. Ironically you get chagrined at the blogs for snark/slurs and you let it happen all day long from these supposed gentleman.

I suggest we start a actual Democrat party and force the delineation. One nice thing about it is though it's easy to tell the Rush Republicans from the more constructive conservatives (a minority to say the least) that are just out to pad their pocketbooks and those of their cronies, wives' banks, donors, and kickback buddies.

MORE THAN THAT!

The MSM supports it, encourages it and embellishes it!

people are turning them off and going to the web.

Gotta love the framing of this question: "Was that a good idea to get that embarrassment out of the bill?" Why bother asking, especially of a couple of Republicans?

the stimulus bill never shouldve been an omnibus bill

resodding the mall....you really think new jobs are created?

family planning needs to be in the health care bill or in its own bill...nancy saying that family planning helps out the economy, says that she knows it doesnt create jobs, just stops poor people from having kids...and that just sounds wrong

the bill shouldve been pinpointed to rebuilding infrastructure...and yes, funding the nea is valid....just as it was valid during the depression

Alot of stuff is in this bill to make it look larger than life. But at least all the Fed buildings will receive maintenance!

they are so concerned about the tax breaks and how they may relate to obama getting voted for a second term. also the 2010 elections. it never ends with these klowns.

you can write off reinvestment...you cant write off profits

REPUGS LIE LIKE THE FUCKING DOGS THAT THEY ARE

WWWWWwwwwwaaaaaaaaAAAAAAA

They won the election and WON'T LET US PLAY!!!

So fun to watch the shoe on the other foot.

I think I hear the WWWaaaambulance!!!

WWwwwwaaaAAAAHHH!!!!!

STOMP THE GOP TO THE GROUND!!

and the MSM has not disappointed!!!

That collection of IgnoramiASSES is too far gone.

Getting their monies worth from the airways they bought and the people they bought to broadcast upon them!

What are these guys living in the Platonic universe of perfection? Politics is the art of the possible not the perfect. To discount a huge bill because of some smattering of this or that is ludicrous - what are these guys - new? Or are they obstructionists that want to see Obama fail even if it brings the economic destruction down on all are heads?

that was the stated plan.

Your right!

Pence and Ensign have been in office since 2001 and have a near perfect voting record with George Bush and were at the helm during the most disastrous 8 year term of a President/Congress - ever! This is their creation - their legacy. They aren't new at all - they are the greedy, party/cronies before country bumblers who f#cked it up! Go figure - I hope Chris has them on again soon to see what they think.

...then I had to shut it off. Nice job matthews, you stupid hack. Invite on some repug spin thugs to make it sound like the bill includes balloons for the kids and illegal drugs for sale outside the school house. Such crap!

I can think of LOTS of ways each one of those items these hacks brought up will stimulate the economy. You put money into improving a mall, you have workers going to work on it. You put money into Planned Partenthood, you have people who are unable to afford medical care able to get exams and consultation otherwise unavailable. The list goes on and on.

Why not invite a hack from the Nazi-reichwing on, and then someone from the Democratic side of the aisle that supports the bill??? God, what a novel idea.

No, these asshole, matthews included, invite on two or three of these thugs to come on and persuade the American public that they are tossing their money out the window on absolute bull shit.

Nice job matthews, you hack!

Tack on a last minute ammendment to tax churches and religious paraphernalia and a hefty tax at that. Instant millions from all the dubious megachurches, seminaries, and theology faculty. Take all the monies and pump up secular education around the country and especially the south. Once people understand logic and reason democracy may experience a resurgence and the repubs will have to play fair. Now that's my idea of stimulus.

They lost and we won. Chris Matthews doesn't get it. They ruined our country for eight years but I had to listen to them for eight years. Now that the Democrats have decisively won the last two Congressional races and the Presidency, who do I get to see every freaking day on Hardball? Republican hypocrites and Pat Buchanan.

I thought I would not have to scream at the t.v. anymore after last Tuesday, but here I was again screaming at the t.v. like some nut.

If "Tax cuts are used to stimulate demand, but the last round didn't halt the slide," then tax cuts did not stimulate demand. No kidding. Why should they? Say's Law is defunct. People are using any found money to pay off past obligations, not to buy new stuff.

Small businesses will do much the same thing. I certainly would not hire people unless there was enough demand in the marketplace to justify adding staff.

And executives in large businesses will use any tax cuts to pay themselves bonuses and invest the proceeds offshore.

notice that these SOBs can't bring themselves to say that they don't give a rat's ass about the poor? If you give poor people money, they have no choice at all, but to SPEND IT. Period. If they want to pretend that that money won't go right out into the economy and "raise all boats" (except the defense industry) then they're idiots. What a bunch of Scrooge morons.

I laughed out loud when I read the title "Repubican Bi-Partisan Week". Did they make it all the way through? Is this going to be a yearly event? I'll need to put it on my calendar.

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