Glenn Beck on FDR: In 1945, Americans Were "Glad He's Dead"
Desperate to change their miserable present, Republicans are traveling back in time to rewrite the past. And so it is with President Franklin Roosevelt and the New Deal. Hoping to block President Obama's stimulus program designed to prevent the next Great Depression, right-wing authors, pundits, and politicians insisted FDR failed to cure the first one. Now, Glenn Beck tells us, Americans reacted to the death of the man who led America back from economic collapse to victory in World War II by claiming with relief, "I'm glad he's dead."
On his Friday show, Beck featured regular guest Burton Folsom Jr. to peddle his book proclaiming the New Deal a failure. (Citing the thoroughly debunked work of Amity Shlaes, GOP leaders like John McCain and Mitch McConnell in 2009 similarly called he New Deal a bust, while Ohio Rep. Steve Austria amazingly declared that FDR "put our country into a Great Depression") After Folsom praised the Republican Roaring Twenties for producing Scotch Tape and zippers, Beck summed up his feelings for Roosevelt:
BECK: Roosevelt...Am I wrong by saying there was a good portion of people that thought, "Holy cow, I'm glad he's dead. He was turning into a dictator."
FOLSOM: Well, there were a lot of people who thought that. As you pointed out, we immediately had a constitutional amendment to prevent any other president from serving longer than two terms...It had not worked well with four terms under Franklin Roosevelt.
Of course, Roosevelt's death on April 12, 1945 brought shock, disbelief and national mourning. And he was wildly popular. His approval rating, which reached 84% in 1942, never dipped below 48% (in 1938). His passing on the eve of victory in Europe stunned Americans, whose approval of him topped 70%.
And with good reason. He had been overwhelmingly elected in 1932, 1936, 1940 and 1944. (He never won less than 36 states and 432 electoral votes.) Even before the onset of World War II, FDR slashed unemployment by more than half and largely restored industrial production and GDP growth. (Only when Roosevelt wavered in the face of conservative pressure in 1937 did his New Deal temporarily falter.)
Among FDR's ardent backers were the Schecter brothers, whose 1935 Supreme Court challenge to his National Recovery Administration struck down much of his New Deal regulatory program. As David Leonhardt wrote in the New York Times review of Amity Shlaes' book:
Among Roosevelt's supporters, evidently, were a family of chicken butchers in Brooklyn named the Schechters. "Their major political concern in the 1930s was anti-Semitism," Shlaes's appendix quotes one of their descendants as saying. "They believed that if Roosevelt had not solved the problems of the Depression, the U.S. could have gone the way of Nazi Germany." The Schechters apparently voted for Roosevelt every time he ran.
(This piece also appears at Perrspectives.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B6J_z152cQ
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...of FDR' funeral procession.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJZvPpaVHEw
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at the wingnut penchant for self -deception!
Insanity at it's most obvious!
did you see the hate? the anger?
why those people hated roosevelt so much that they stood for hours just to hurl tears at his coffin
beck is insane
that was so touching. i've seen it before but it so well illustrates how americans felt about fdr.
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time comes.
This freak is clearly going down...and his ending will not be pretty.
taped.
i'm stocking up on popcorn.
the security this website has for registration is goofy.
I'm polishing up my dancing shoes.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln
I guess it depends on your viewpoint. It will be a great day for me when we don't have to see or hear the crap that comes from this man. I believe in neither heaven or hell, but for beck and his fellow travelers, there must be a special place for these people in the after life.
Nazis?
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That's why they voted him into office 4 times.
me-oww!
and three elections were before we even entered in WWII.
Yep! And then they elected his Vice-President too!
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
Yeah, sure. I "hated" the man so much I made a special trip while in Washington to visit the Roosevelt Memorial.
Here is a man who served as Assistant Secretary of the Navy and argued against the demobilization of the Navy following WW1. He campaigned tirelessly for the Navy all his life. He served as Governor of my Empire State of New York when that was still an honorable profession. He led this country out of the Great Depression (yes, Mr. Beck, it was called the GREAT Depression because it was the worst our nation ever experienced until your hero Dubya forced another one on us). Pushed for Unions and Social Security, and led our country through a global war on two fronts.
My only objection to FDR was he should have told Harry Truman about the A-Bomb much earlier.
This was truly one of the greatest Presidents this nation has ever had, ranking with Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson Truman and JFK. Having a sub-human like Beck claim that people were glad he died is just plain lunacy.
It seems that Beck, Limbaugh and the rest of the miserable pinch-faced Republicans are all born from the same "Aliens" pod-sacks as the Defeatist GOP was in the war years. The pods marked "I got mine, fuck you".
Democratic Party progressive, Vietnam veteran and proud Union member for 41 years
If this don't beat all.
well, I suppose we should expect this. It is from Beckistan .
Now, all we have to do is wait for the Berkerheads to come out regurgitating the Beckers bullshit.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
...cost him years off his life. Glenn Beck a grotesque racist and vile liar who ranks with Goebbels, Tokyo Rose, and Walter Winchell as a hateful propagandists.
Howz it goin?
I have to say, I liked Winchells donuts.;)
What is your conceptual, continuity?
And I'm with Savannah, Beck's final meltdown will be like if my Cubs won the World Series.
What's a World Series?
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could tell you...
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Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hWWUUtO4Q0&fe...
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Would someone please explain this game to me? What's the object?
Democratic Party progressive, Vietnam veteran and proud Union member for 41 years
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtGNd6EOxtI&fe...
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but Robert Stack had the sexist eyes.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln
Well that belies the commonly held presupposition that Oldkoloas lose their fizz...
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Wow, more wonder from the boy man not a genius. What a hateful petty insecure revisionist man. Did he cry about this too? Yet his whining is very profitable, for himself, at the expense of everyone else.
In addition to being clinically insane, Glenn Beck is, simply stated, just a vile, despicable human being.
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Franklin D. Roosevelt Memorial service broadcast 12-4-1945
... so I can outlive Beck. I definitely want to someday say "I'm sure glad he's dead".
Beck and the Pukes know there is no requirement for "facts" as the people they are preaching to do not expect facts. They live in their own delusional world, which Beck et al do their part to sustain. Just try and provide and real facts to the converted, not possible, stupidity is their shield and they like it that way. Unfortunately for the rest of us, they breed.
to think, isn't it? That certain people know this and use it to their advantage gives the rest of us examples of "evil." Living examples of it. The dumb ones need their guns, because when Nature starts to thin the herd, and all comes down to survival of the fittest, the "fittest" category will not include them. It won't include the richest, either. One can dream.
Ok, lemme see. Some people hated FDR. Only the shit heads with shit for brains like you Becker.
I mean really, just how low can these fucktards go?
Lemme guess. George Washington was a socialist,nazi, maoist, anti christ. Oh, and he was a spy too.
If there's a hell, I damn them all to hell.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Beck knows his audience don't/can't fucking read.
if they DO read, they lack the intellect to comprehend what they've read.
And Obama took it too. Same old shit. Different time period.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88cqSGFUASU
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Check out x-tube. :)
my mom has talked glowingly about FDR for as long as i can remember, she's 81 now.
goddamn this piece of blubber.
he has no idea how ppl felt back then.
he's an idiot snake oil salesman who is at this very time hanging himself with his own rope...too bad it's not literally.
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My mom is 76 and has always spoken well of FDR. In fact I just asked her if she recalled the sentiment that Beck is talking about and she said no.
Beck talks about the Republicans and Southern Democrats feelings for FDR as if they were the majority of America. I am sure that both those groups did hate FDR but since those are the two groups that merged to form the modern day GOP it's irrelevant because they were just doing what they have been doing since then... trying to acquire and maintain power. Since they have failed at that miserably they are trying to rewrite history to give themselves a better chance.
My immigrant grand-father arrived at Ellis Island in 1912 and did not become a naturalized US citizen until 1956. But I do not remember one single day in my grand-father's presence when he did not speak glowingly of Roosevelt. He literally spoke about FDR until the day he died.
not for new deal programs.
my grandfather would not take handouts....but the public works jobs (he was a carpenter) kept him working throughout the depression.
i remember as a kid, my grandfather would drive me and my siblings around to the different buildings he helped to construct.
30 years later, that man still took pride in his work....
and all of those buildings still stand today
folsom is an historical revisionist and a fraud
were Nazi sympathizers. Henry Ford, Charles Lindbergh, oh and.....tadah! Prescott Bush.
I've seen footage of the 1936 GOP convention where these people attack "liberals" like FDR and at the same time praise Hitler for turning his country around.
I don't believe in God. Teach a man to be a good citizen and you have solved the problem of life.
-Andrew Carnegie
I mean, to give Hitler credit, he did wonders to restore the German people's self-respect and really got the country going again.
Of course, he did it by means that almost destroyed the country, has left generations to apologize for the acts of a psychotic minority, and killed millions of innocent people, but what the heck. Things ran smoothly in Germany, dammit.
has always been democrats and lived in kentucky, not everyone in the south was THAT kind of democrat.
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You asked about if people thought G Washington was a Christian.
You said you got 4 people. That's your following Glennis.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmZvn83G348
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but that was Hitler and the Bush family.
They know no lows. Insulting the memory of FDR is inconceivable. Unless, they're a throw back from that era. And what happened next?
Shortly there after, we had McCarthyism.
Which, in a way, is happening right now. Or should I say happened under the last admin. And it became another bullshit talking point right now. Thanks to shit heads like Becker. I swear, the guy has shit for brains.
That being said, I bid you all adieu.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Beck sees McCarthy as another misunderstood patriot like himself, his delusion knows no bounds.
a drunk and closeted homosexual
As someone who lives in the Catskills and loves to hike our trails I bless FDR and the WPA every time I'm out. The trails they cut into the forests and mountains of my home region still last and still beckon. Great staircases cut into living rock; trails cut into virgin forest to overlooks that still look like no human has ever been there. A great artistic achievement done to give men work which lives on as a testament to what a government can do when it works for the good of its citizens.
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Yeah, but at what price? They probably didn't get their $5 across-the- board GOP tax cut.
Nothing says freedom, like giving the aristocracy billions in tax cuts.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
Oh, what will Glenn pull out of his nethers next?
;>)
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So the Schecters voted for Roosevelt. But they opposed his attempt to "pack" the Supreme Court. And, despite having sabotaged his Supreme Court initiative, they regretted Roosevelt's failure to succeed … because if he had been successful the U.S. would have joined hands with the Nazis to destroy the Jews?
WTF?
I voted for Obama, though I oppose a lot of what he does. I will likely vote for him again to prevent the Insane Asylum Party from taking over, and I will still oppose a lot of what he does.
Can't win 'em all, though if there are things your president does that you oppose, you can challenge him in court. That's part of the beauty of the American republic. (Or, at least it was.)
Um, I'm not sure what you read. I would have worked to sabotage his trying to pack the Court as well, though I would have also wanted a lot of his New Deal programs to succeed.
And that's what the Schecters apparently did, though I don't see much in the C&L post about packing the Court. The post says that they opposed some of the New Deal regulations, but were very concerned about anti-semitism and Nazism, and believed that Roosevelt was the right man to fight both, partly because of some of his anti-poverty programs.
I don't see any self-contradictions there. I don't see it as any different from how staunch progressives will largely vote for Obama today, except that Obama does not even dream of approaching the greatness of FDR.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
there were a significant number of people that had issues with the price and wage controls
one was not allowed to sell at prices below what was fixed
some of these rules were challenged and won in court
and it was not that the united states would join with nazi germany...but that it would become like nazi germany
the terrible depression in germany gave rise to the fascists, who gained alot of power using hatred towards jews and minorities for the economic problems
which if you look around...is going on today
BECK:
Simple formula. Beck asks, "Am I wrong by saying . . . ."
No matter what follows the ellipses, there is a 99% likelihood that the answer is YES.
Everyone is equally entitled to the pursuit of happiness. Wasn't that once self evident?
You just lost another 30% of your little audience with that remark. The 70 somethings that were hanging on your every word just went...WTF?
My Mom is 76 and she thinks FDR was sitting on the right hand of God. He was President for the first 11 years of her life. And my dear departed Grandma? When politics was brought up, lets put it this way, I thought FDR was God when I was a kid.
My grandfather, a loyal Republican who would drop dead if he weren't dead already, seeing what has become of the party he supported all his life, hated Roosevelt to his dying day.
But that's mostly because he expected to make a killing on his house in Pawling, NY, when President Dewey moved his Summer White House there.
Glenn Beck's got his head so far in the dark he has to roll to work.
Roosevelt either, only because he thought if Hitler would have won he would have hung all of the big bankers, and he was a WWII vet.
europe of the pacific?
Guadalcanal, Luzon, Manila...island hopping
after hbo aired the pacific, i started reading the historical records of those battles
that any americans survived is a miracle
that any came out with their minds intact is even more of a miracle
did your dad get to go to australia after guadalcanal?
is he still around?
and i hope that if he did/does talk about his experiences, you guys recorded them
till the day i die, i will remain pissed that when in school, we were never given the full story of what really happened in the pacific, and how many of those brave men were basically treated like cannon fodder
He only talked about the funny things that happened while he was there. When I was growing up, most kids had their dads reading Dr. Seuss to them. Me?, I had war books read, he had a pile of them.
He was a gunner, infantry, drug around a B.A.R everywhere with him.
I think he liked the war books so much because he could review the strategies that were used because while he was on the ground there he didn't have a clue about what was going on at the time.
your dad is like mine....mine never talked about his experiences in korea....just about his time off in japan
which is too bad
but i will say this...the guys who fought in europe may have been heroes, but those sent to the pacific were a totally different breed
i wouldnt have made it through
stories, he had a million of them. He knew every plane by silhouette and sight, mostly thats what he talked about to me.
If I ever asked him if he killed anyone, he would just say "I don't know" or he wouldn't answer.
He used to say how strong the Filipinos were, that the Americans could put their biggest guy up against one of them in arm wrestling and the big guy would damn near get his arm snapped off.
interesting fellow that the general was
He said it was like the one MASH episode where they said he was coming to speak and they got all lined up and he just drove on through.
Except they didn't have Klinger dressed up as the Statue of Liberty just outside of camp ;)
now that is funny
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Only they went thru the back door because the front door operation didn't work thanks to Smedley.
Beck is such a liar. From what I recently read his ratings have dropped.
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"Some say" has fallen out of use and seems to have been replaced by "A good portion of people" or "A lot of people" whatever the hell that means.I also think that he has thrown his older demographic under the bus because they should and do know better. They actually lived through it or most certainly their parents did..Or maybe they're not part of his demographic anyway.
and I suspect that many of them were "glad he's dead".
However, I seriously doubt any of them would have dared to say so publicly because at no point in FDR's time in office would it have been accurate to say that "a good portion" of the people thought that way. In fact, for most of his Presidency and certainly at the time of his death, it would be have been accurate to say that a large majority of the American people idolized FDR.
As for the 22nd Ammendment, that had nothing to do with whether people liked or disliked FDR. Until the election of 1940, no President of the U.S. had ever served more than two terms and only a couple had even tried to run for a third term.
Even among those who strongly supported FDR, there was a feeling that he had been an exceptional man under exceptional circumstances and that his election to four terms in office should not set a new precedent for the future.
He does not have the morals or the intelligence to know what is good for him much less anyone else.
republicans make me ill. Their stupidity is sickening!
My father was 41 in 1945 and he cried at the news that FDR had died. I remember the day very well. My father always said that FDR was "the working man's friend" and to my father that meant a lot. We lived in an upper middle class NJ suburb, so I came to know that not everyone felt that way and in fact where I live now among the old country club set there are still misgivings about any Democrat, no matter how much of their bacon was saved by FDR and succeeding Democrats. There is no use in reminding anyone that much of the comfort that seniors now enjoy is because of socially-conscious government that keeps us all from living with our kids, and vice versa. Somehow it's all Obama's fault that private retirement funds have shrunk. The same fearful ignorance that made some people hate FDR is still alive today.
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Glenn Beck...A true American stack of cockroach shit.
Sending pseudo-humans back in time to change history so they can stop being losers.
Glenn Beck is the Worminator.
I eagerly await the day I can say the same thing about Beck.
Honestly, FDR should be considered an untouchable when taken into account what he inherited and how he handled it.
"The Misadventures of Glenn Beck: Revisionist Historian."
In case anyone here "thinks" the US didn't have anti-jewish sentiment prior to World War II, do us all a favor and read the history of the S.S. St. Louis and how happy some people would have been to turn jews back over to the Nazis, even after it was widely known what they were doing.
Ah, Glenn. Except for a few miserable, misguided souls who follow you and believe your bullshit, not too many people will be mourning when you go. Then again, they could use Ben-Gay to stir up some fake tears when the time comes...
Warbucks "died" during the FDR administration due to the "climate". He returned to life when FDR died.
Why am I not surprised at this one ? FDR has been under attack by the right for some time now , hell , the right is attacking all of history , they want to completely rewrite it and that includes what our children are taught and what they study . Half the people in this country are so damned ignorant and dumb that they are literally defenseless , they will go along with and buy into this crap , that's the real problem . These F'n freaks must be stopped , that's all I can say . What is it going to take before the left and the center , people with living , functioning brain cells and some common sense , speak up , make themselves heard and counter these lunatics ?
"The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all."
I'm not an expert, but I once dated a gal who analyzed handwriting. She told me that someone who inconsistently mixes upper and lower case letters while printing often suffers from mental issues such as schizophrenia.
Looks like she was correct.
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Yes, your right glen. The American people, rose as one, to agree with Axis Sally that they were glad that FDR was dead. Now they could surrender to Hitler and the Nazis. If only someone would show them the way to the new enlightenment. I don't know where glen gets this wonderful insight in our political history. There were probably some who did express a positive attitude about FDRs death. These were those right wingers on Wall Street whom felt he was a traitor to his "class". The loss of FDR was felt by most americans across all social and financial strata. This is a new low even for glen. Why does this guy still have a job, even at Faux News?
When Jim Jones Beck speaks of "the people" he's referring to those like himself and his family...the rich. And I'm sure he's right, that he and his family and their ilk were glad when Franklin Roosevelt,(a rich guy himself who stood up for the common people of American) died.
It was useful reading this post before watching last Friday's version of "Founders Fridays." Founders? Sure, after he spent 10 minutes ranting about how the progressives caused deeper downturns in the economy than conservatives had. This followed his commitment to "do revisionist history." I'd say: he's a wizard at revisionist history, from fact to the far right version that's lies and spin.
He's an amazing liar, and you are not alone watching this propagandist. He's a propaganda wizard, and he tells during that show of one of his researchers describing how Goebbels learned propaganda from the Wilson Administration. Hmmmm, and Beck learned from them?
Have a post up at http://sharethisurlaboutglenbek.wordpress.com/ about Rand Paul's relevance to Beck. It's one of my best to date.
Open to collaboration on fighting this liar. Interesting coincidence: you have a DeVry ad on display above, and I'm an alumni, 1977, Pheonix.
"The antidote to bad speech is more speech." ~~J.S. Mill
Beck and other reactionary right wing phonies use techniques of deception beautifully explained by "George Lakoff". I suggest readers search online for his lecture and download same. It describes how well funded Republican think-tanks plan out6 strategies to distort the truth and frame the argument.
As a child I read Orwell's classic 1984, wherein the story's featured charachter, Winston, is employed at rewriting history. This is the same thing. Hey, there is a whole conservative "history writing" scheme afoot, funded by people like the Bush library and the Heritage Foundation.
Both my parents, one now gone, and one , sharp, 91 and still reading 3 books a week, described to me the agony Americans experienced at the loss of their beloved President Roosevelt. I can find fault with FDR on some things, but will not buy a rewriting of history.
Beck is a major distorter of the truth for his own good. Even if you do not buy what I am saying, I suggest you read up on the "Gold investment" characters he represents, before you get sucked in there as well.
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