Bart Stupak threatened: "I hope you bleed out your ass, get cancer and die."
I'm no fan of Bart Stupak (D-MI), but there's no way any Representative should be threatened the way he was. These are messages left on his voice mail, left by supposed Christians and supporters of "life".
"Congressman Stupak, you baby-killing mother f***er... I hope you bleed out your a**, got cancer and die, you mother f***er," one man says in a message to Stupak.
"There are millions of people across the country who wish you ill," a woman says in a voicemail, "and all of those thoughts that are projected on you will materialize into something that's not very good for you."
CBS News also obtained copies of faxes sent to Stupak, which include racial epithets used in reference to President Obama and show pictures of nooses with Stupak's name.
I think Stupak's injection of the abortion issue into the debate was a low-life thing to do. I support his primary challenger, Connie Saltonstall. Still, listen to the dripping hatred in these people's voices, the implied threat of their words. There is no place for this in our politics, even against those who play games with wedge issues and bow to Catholic bishops.
The thing is, in this country we elect people. We get to vote every couple of years or so. Violence is for dictatorships, not democracies. Like it or not, they're not going to turn the US into Teabagistan, no matter how hard they wish it, or how nasty they get.
So much for love thy neighbor.
that I thought, chickens coming home to roost? Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas? The law of three kicks in? What did he think was going to happen when he sided with evil? Duh! I still feel bad for him, but Bart, darling? Get a clue.
No one deserves death threats like this, regardless of their views or actions. While I disagree with Stupak, I can't even say that this is remotely deserved.
That's the same for any person. Death threats are never ok.
No one deserves death threats, but Stupak shouldn't be surprised how this turned out. To trot out another cliche, he played with fire and got burned.
live with constantly. A bit of forced empathy for Bart Stupad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOErZuzZpS8
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You gotta be careful about overly broad generalizations . . .
Not even Glenn Beck? If you can't trust the Onion News Network -- the only major network to be able to pronounce "Olathe" correctly -- who can you trust?
On the slightly more serious side, I think the cliche that best applies to Congressman Stupak's situation is "With friends like these . . .". He's no where near the rhetorical level of several of his colleagues. But if he's got half a clue, he's gotta be wondering who he's been "palling around" with. He, himself, oughta be out there asking "What's wrong with you people?"
And those supposed "pro-lifers" wishing for him to die -- I gotta get my irony meeter fixed, again -- the needle pegged and broke off.
Christians?
Goodnight, Frau Blücher
Beware the 'no true Scotsman' argument.
conservatives are all two faced haters,
and as for Stupak, I wish him no harm but I will do
everything I can to replace him with a real democrat.
Can someone explain how Stupak became a "baby killer"? I thought he was "pro-choice" and forced that executive order about (or really against) abortion. So wouldn't that make him a friend to Christians and other pro-lifers? What am I missing that is causing this rage (other than hate, anger and fear is a requirement to be part of the GOP and far right)?
agreed to vote for the health care bill and stop pursuing the toughening up of the abortion language. For Repugs the executive order wasn't enough.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Ignorance and stupidity. Lots and lots of stupidity.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
Where the FUCK are the goddamn FBI??
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
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Give them a break. They're already investigating a series of these threats. Plus, the FBI is famous for avoiding comment during an investigation. I know that the FBI is shady as all hell, but, you know, give them more than one news cycle to at least formally announce their actions.
Sorry if I didn't make myself clear. I'm including these threats in the ongoing group of threats that the goddamn 'Baggers have been waving in the face of lawmakers since beck and his ilk have promoted the Hell out of these faux patriots.
One conviction or even a publicized investigation to just one of these incidents would likely silence these cowards.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Agreed. People are openly threatening violence against members of congress and the president (including calls for assassination). People are openly posting addresses of congresspeople and their families and inviting violence against them and no one is arrested. Are we waiting until someone gets hurt or killed before it is stopped?
Homeland Security website and ther is a phone number to call and leave a comment so I did. It's only a comment line but we all need to tell them how we feel about these threats.
get real
FBI Investigating Threats to Democrats.
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
It takes an hour or two for FBI PR to get on it ;)
Swamped ?
I felt obliged to report a commenter ( not from C&L) to the FBI last night. The rhetoric was beyond the usual in style, content and frequency from a known right-wing regular. Hopefully just an a-hole temporarily more worked up than usual because of recent events, but the Web is like a confessional and can serve as a manifesto.
The FBI must be getting a lot of such tips lately, and they have to at least look at every one--and they still have very crappy computers which can't be helpful.
there will be employment opportunities at the FBI for the next few years at least. They must be needing extra help, what with all the batshit loonies running around spewing poison.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Can't speak for the rank & file investigators, but the IT forensics offices have the best PCs and Macs money can buy. Piles of them. And six strands of fiber at each desk. :-)
on the Homeland Security website as well. They are domestic terrorists
Trying to find out what ever happened to Stephanie Zimbalist.
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I hadn't heard anything happened to Stephanie Zimbalist, except that she became a conservative, right-wing Christian who makes donations to Republican causes and candidates.
Agree completely. No elected official should have to put up with this*... The teabaggers have gone beyond-the-beyond.
* Though Stupek should be voted out of office.
Hopefully they don't have access to weapons grade Anthrax like they did to Daschle and Leahy before the Patriot Act.
"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." ~ Eleanor Roosevelt
That was Bush and Cheney putting the fear icing on their other little operation. Sure made the Patriot Act get installed faster.Its rather obvious where it come from.
what great christians!!
that Xian love?
Shouldn't the site monitor delete that headline?
May someone Crazy Glue their butt cheeks...
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So much for "Pro-life"! These guys are just Pro-birth, not Pro-life. They don't care for what happens to a person after he/she is born.
In my opinion, some of them are just plain hooligans!
christianity... /eyeroll
religion... /eyeroll
It's "care for the foetus, forget the young child". These people's Christianity goes as far as that. The rest can rot...
it's not so much as care for the fetus (because they'd be against free prenatal care for all), it's more that they care about control of women's bodies and don't give a crap about anyone's life.
Chickens coming home to roost, indeed. Serves him right.
. . . that I can feel sorry for instead?
Enjoy your new friends, Bart. Good Christians, I'm sure. Just like you :)
Corruption favors the wealthy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DuqjMIp_Sk
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""There are millions of people across the country who wish you ill," a woman says in a voicemail, "and all of those thoughts that are projected on you will materialize into something that's not very good for you.""
lol. Fear her psychic powers
Hold up a mirror. Away from your face. It's to bounce back the woman's mighty psychic power.
referring to may qualify as witchcraft per the Bible's standards...doesn't she realize that could get her in trouble with the guy upstairs?
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
That is basic sorcery, ill wishing.
But back in the medieval period people believed one could be killed by a priest reading the rite of the dead against a living person.
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she's suggesting she'll do something the Bible prohibits. What a hypocrite she is. A scary hypocrite.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3ONXlI2k0k
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Backatchoo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxdt_f0hwUg
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to leave my church and evangelicism altogether.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
I'm sure you realize these kooks are way more righteous than rational. Cognitive dissonance is second nature to them -- just like mouth breathing.
None of this would have happened. He kept a handle on anything that even looked like this, including the t-shirts people wore. Now I hated Bush think he was a blabbering idiot but someone handling him kept things down to a minimum. What the hell is wrong with the Dems? They sit back and allow this then when it gets out of hand they bitch and complain? Where is the FBI, why aren't people being arrested for this stuff? Why are people like Limbaugh and Beck allowed to incite violence night after night? Do we want this to fester until there is an outright war in this country? I read stuff like this and want to know why isn't anyone doing anything about it? It is getting worse every day yet we sit around twiddling our thumbs. Time to make some arrests or do they actually have to kill someone to be held accountable?
about all of the things you have mentioned.
They are becoming more emboldened - led by limbaugh, beck, and all of that ilk.
So someone's death will not be the motivating factor.
They don't go out and call for revolution and say other Reps. might be dead men.
Plus, the "liberal" media is complicit in this. Under Bush, the media was a complete lapdog, providing him a nearly uncontested platform from which to catapult his propaganda.
very few exceptions.
Some stuff you can't make up!
They're still doing it - all the innuendo, the stupid horse-race reporting, the crappy framing via slanted headlines. The media is owned by mega-corporations, who don't want Democratic administrations to regulate them. You can't trust them. Even now.
Yes, the corporate elite want a war.
Think of the profits?
And it would be right here. Cheap labor and little overhead; now that the middle class has been drug down to third world status with 25% unemployment.
Keep the people employed - killing each other! And otherwise thinking of everything but taxing the super-rich. Brilliant!
Damn, these fascist oligarchs are good.
They know that the stupid rednecks will be more than happy to take up the "cause" and die for their own economic suicide - in order to preserve the same fascist oligarchs who are destroying them.
Unfortunately, I see this as the only alternative in dealing with these nutjobs. Because the psychotic republicans will never stop their tactics. Not as long as there is at least one dupe remaining who is dumb enough to exploit, and rip off!
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
Think of the property destruction. Do corporations believe that they can stand up to mobs? Also, might overthrowing the government have an effect on intellectual-property laws?
Destruction = no bid contracts.
Changing laws = the five fascists of the apocolypse on the Supreme Court have their back.
These guys leave nothing to chance.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
. . . you gotta buy new stuff. Sufficient destruction can be a real kick-in-the-pants for an economy.
Back "in the day" I played a board game called "Civilization". Not related to the computer game of the same name that came later. A good natural disaster could return "units" to "stock". Insufficient "units" free, the result of good times and growth, eventually resulted in stagnation and civil revolt. Of course the revolt also "freed up the units" as well, so it's all self-correcting.
Then again, it sure sucks a lot more when you're the cardboard token and not the all seeing god moving you around.
the Congressman from Texas yelling at Stupak and calling him baby killer was amusing and delicious irony.
It's not funny at all anymore. I dislike Stupak just as much as the next woman who's human rights were threatened by him, but this is just vile for people to do this to him.
"Pro-Life" my big fat ass...
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ImZTwYwCug
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Here's the kiddy version:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clXaf4Gg6bg&fe...
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apparently, only after voting FOR the HC bill. Not that I'm a big fan of Stupak, but he deserves better than this.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
handled themselves well when we all had every right to be furious at Stupak, but Stupak does the right thing and gets Obama to uphold the Hyde Amendment, and votes for the bill himself and all hell breaks loose on the anti-choice side... Sad.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0DK1dl8eRc
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Haven't seen that movie yet.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
I guess this clot didn't get the memo:you know the Neugebauer claim that he was really talking about the Bill.
The same Neugebauer by the way,who has retracted his "apology" for what it was worth,and is now being touted as the latest He-ro.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
apologize!" So classy, those Texas Repugs... .
who called Rep. Stupak are definitely 'pro-life' (as evidenced by many who wished him a very short, miserable one) and 'Christians' (as evidenced by the many kind thoughts about who/what Stupak may be and how well loved he is by his Christian brethren).
It's beginning to look like the "Powers that Be" are really working toward a huge rift between the Red and Blues and violent change. All Real Americans should stand against what is essentially a class war.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
Surprised? Really? The insanity always trickles down.
Stupak picked the wrong time and the wrong issue to get some TV time, and now he's reaping the whirlwind. I used to like him, because he introduced a bill that would affect something i have an interest in. But now... i think it's time for him to go back to the farm.
someone makes him buy it.
These are the same frightened people who relish the thought of our military killing the ugly brown menace in the ME. These are the very same people who so cherish life that they will set off bombs in women’s clinics. They are all so concerned about the growth of big government that they defend with vitriolic fervor those who grow it. They hold so dear the values of freedom and liberty that they will physically assault anyone who disagrees with them. They are so angry at…. Something… that they will lash out of anyone they are told to.
They don’t want to refresh the tree of liberty, they just want the blood.
They are the base of what’s left of the Republican Party, and they are convinced of their absolute righteousness because they wave an American flag as they spit on those who they consider un-American. They so love the Bill or Rights that they will defend with your life their self-perceived rights they think that document gives them.
The Whigs are history. The Bull-Moose Party is a footnote. The Republican Party is also finished. They can’t survive like this. I don’t know who will be running for office in 20 years nor what political bent they may espouse, but this current group is kicking and screaming their way into obscurity.
Republican Party signed its own death warrant when it embraced the DixieCrats, after LBJ signed the Civil Rights Act.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
I enjoy the idea of an IQ requirement to vote. Weeds out most of these people.
The same thugs who painted Hitler mustaches on Obama are now employing tried and true Brown Shirt / SS techniques.
Funny?
Not much.
when they're so full of shit.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
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The Brown Shirts' shirts were brown because they got them cheap!
And it is Republican stock-and-trade to accuse the Dems of doing precisely what the Republicans themselves are doing, as protective cover for their own behavior.
Accusing the Dems of fascistic behavior when they're the only ones acting like fascists.
.. for instance ..
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
Like you say . . .
It's almost clever to do that. Muddy the waters by accusing your enemies of doing what you're in fact doing yourself.
Just look at their spokespeople, like Glenn Beck. That guy projects so well I'm gonna invite him to my next movie night.
These are the people Stupak pandered to. Lie down with skunks, get up with fleas.
Man who goes to bed with itchy bottom
Wakes up with stinking fingers.
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Limbaugh has boy in strawberry field,
Wake up in big JAM!
Kind of like the boy who was running late for school and told the teacher he didn't know why, because he waked up in the crack of dawn.
After he took his seat a girl walked in the teacher didn't recognize and asked, "What's your name?"
"Dawn."
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*sniff* *cough!* *gak!*
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
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There is a word for the people engaged in this GOP hate parade.
We don't use it enough, though it is perhaps the most precise word for this
new movement. SAVAGES
Savages:
- as in barbarous
- able or disposed to inflict pain or suffering;
- feral: wild and menacing; "a pack of feral dogs"
- attack brutally and fiercely
- a member of an uncivilized people
- barbarian: without civilizing influences;
- beast: a cruelly rapacious person
One of the Tea Party guys was being interviewed on the radio and said..."We are cleaning our rifles all over the country" WTF!
for fun. I cannot get this straight. Gun, rifle. What ev.
... Don't stay long. ;)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
as much as I'd like to.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
But if it was him, he would have said, "out of your ass" because he's been to college, unlike the majority of these things who haven't yet finished 3rd grade.
So much better for my blood pressure (and car stereo and dashboard).
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
took him with her to hell.
This country needs an IQ requirement to vote.
Religion... what has it done for you lately?
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Tax breaks.
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Leave me alone sensei. :P
Study the symptoms not the virus...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au9_vfx6t6c&fe...
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Which one?
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
She's going to be taken out by a sniper.
is intended to be a factual statement
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"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/24/extr...
"Some of those rifles are apparently being cleaned so as to threaten the children of legislators, such as Representative Louise Slaughter (D-N.Y.)."
Maddow ♥
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Think that Stupak will learn before he unleashes the forces of hate, toward women, again? A little blow back is entertaining. Hope he better appreciates his fellow right to lifers.
The Pope needs to denounce these activities... ASAP
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it will happen. No sincere denouncements, at least.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
I cannot wait to see how this plays out.
Pope on a Rope is too busy covering the asses of a whole new bunch of Priest diddlers.
There was a lot of it in the Weimar Republic as the NSDAP fought its way into "elected" power. The coup de grace when the managed to take over the law enforcement mechanisms of the national and provincial governments (remind you of the "Oath Keepers"—which given the group's aims is rather oxymoronic or maybe it's just DoubleSpeak).
CIA sponsored Gladios in Europe, but the same forces are at work here.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
he never had to bring it up
i really dont feel the least bit sorry for him
but i wish him no harm, and hope those that are threatening him are brought to justice
funny how there wasnt one threat made by any of us wacky commies to a winngut rep
.. and it finally took an Iraqi journalist to launch a shoe at Bush!
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
I heard it was customary? ;)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
It's still in orbit...
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Yes, I went for a candle light vigil against Iraq war, these guys are going on "Gun and Brick" vigil over a bill which will provide health care for many uninsured!
What a bunch?
Where is FISA when ya need it :P
Study the symptoms not the virus...
PETA and Code Pink
Ain't that the truth. Got to keep your eyes on us dirty hippies.
is intended to be a factual statement
Code Pink is harmless. Now PeTA is actually legitimately a pack of domestic terrorists. They support the ALF, who firebomb research labs. As a neurobiology student, I quite happily mock PeTA idiots.
because if you're an FBI agent, you don't want to actually have to use your gun against people who also have guns. Easier to target the bleeding hearts and dirty effin hippies.
"pro lifers" wishing death on a post fetus.
this post-fetus is one of their fellow anti-choicers...
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
Tweety Gets To The Heart of the Abortion Matter With Bishop Tobin
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would be if they truly cared about life
they just care about controlling a woman's uterus
You were playing ignorant or truly stupid. Come on people from day one when this teabagging shit started a year ago we saw it coming. For the past year I've been telling a coworker that things will get violent eventually.
The thing that pisses you off is the Demint's, Palin's and Bachman's saw it too and did nothing but encourage it. They should be held responsible.
is intended to be a factual statement
Can some of these instigators, like Demint, Palin, Limbaugh, Beck , be sued for instigating violence? If so, I will donate money for that good cause!
The GOP, Fox and Rush are responsible for spreading lies, fear and violent rhetoric instead of information and truth. The teabaggers are threatening politicians and their families, and not one of them have come out and said "THIS IS WRONG"
They are just as responsible and guilty.
NOBODY 2012
during the 2004 election that people out here were getting violent. Chris Matthews poo-pooed that idea on the air. It is very much worse today. We are on the way toward another civil war. If people in leadership positions do not tone down the rhetoric. Also, the news media has fanned the flames of the Birthers and the Tea Partiers. They are also to blame.
Those lovers of "life" threaten a man with death. Just the kind of topsy-turvy non-logic these troglodytes love to engage in.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Meh. They're less about 'life' and more about control.
Ever notice how they loooooove kids (some of them love them carnally!), but as soon as they're sexually mature, they start hating them? Especially the girls?
where he basically justified the rage because "Dems passed HC reform>"
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
passing a bill. The horror! The outrage! The legality of it all!
I had a donkey that once bled from his behind, and it didn't hurt me at all.
Why would Stupak's jackass hemorrhaging from his anus cause the Congressman to die? Christians are always insane, it seems.
It depends where the hole is and how big.
"This is my rifle, this is my gun. One is for killing, one is for fun!" Or so my Vietnam Army buddy tells me. Either way, these republik k kant's are the lowest of the low.
remember this.
------"There are millions of people across the country who wish you ill," a woman says in a voicemail, "and all of those thoughts that are projected on you will materialize into something that's not very good for you."-----
Just more evidence that Christians practice Black Magic and worship their third god Satan.
http://www.cathar.info/
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Holy Blood Holy Grail and was very interested, so the link is much appreciated. :P
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
The perps are stupid enough to think their phone calls won't be traced back to them.
Is anybody still dumb enough to believe phone calls are private?
Apparently the knuckle-dragging right is that stupid.
"I hit star 67! Now they'll nevur cach meh! Har Har!"
I wish I could see the look on these idiots' faces when they hear that knock on the door.
NOBODY 2012
Wow. When a "life" leaves the womb, it better grow up to be fearful of the wrath of these "pro lifers."
I still find it ironic that both the threateners and the threatened in this case were anti-choice eejits.
and the resultant blow back. It isn't so much a christian thing... most likely borrowed from more ancient religions... but it has something to do with karma or the golden rule or just plan reaping what you sew. Good luck with all that.
leverage and encouragement. Randall had another one coming, and he and his kind just got it. I'll bet that was for and possibly from Dr. Tiller. There IS justice in the universe.
is the one stirring the radicals up. How can he be stopped short of a bullet?
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