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Rethinking Spending Targets

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Settle in, because it looks like it will be a long hot summer debate about taxing and spending. We're already hearing the old saws from Republicans about how we spend too much, tax cuts don't increase the deficit, and we're saddling our children and grandchildren with enormous, horrible debt that will surely bankrupt them before they're even born.

It isn't like we haven't all heard this before, or like we don't hear it over and over, but this time perhaps we could start by shattering myths. One begging to be shattered is this idea that we must limit spending to a certain percentage of GDP in order to be "fiscally solvent".

Center on Budget and Policy Priorities explains:

Simply put, aiming to stabilize the budget at the recent historical spending average of 21 percent of GDP might be appropriate for the years ahead if the age distribution of the population remained the same as it was in recent decades; if health care costs grew no faster than the economy; if Medicare had no drug benefit; if we were willing to leave more than 30 million Americans without health coverage; if there were no terrorist threats and hence no need for homeland security spending; if no wounded veterans of Iraq and Afghanistan needed medical care and income support; and if decisions and events over the last decade had not nearly doubled the national debt as a share of GDP. But that’s not the world in which we live, and it’s not the target at which we should aim.

This report hits at the heart of why today's spending debate is such a non-starter: Historically, we have not had revenues that come close to what is needed to maintain public services and programs. (As an aside: the unspoken but clear message is that taxes should NEVER have been cut in the first place)

The historical record shows a persistent mismatch between revenues and the funding needed for public services. Revenues at the 40-year average — a little over 18 percent of GDP — would not have balanced the budget in any of the last 40 years. The only balanced budgets over this period occurred from 1998 through 2001, years in which revenues were markedly above the 40-year average. Revenues in these years were in the 20-to-21-percent-of-GDP range. As a result of this mismatch between revenues and funding needs, the government ran deficits that averaged 2.6 percent of GDP over the past 40 years.

In case that wasn't clear enough, let me make it clearer: Bill Clinton's budget put us on the path to fiscal solvency without cutting services, and George Bush's tax cuts derailed it. To further complicate the picture, the whole "Homeland Security" spending package along with a couple of wars finished the job.

Indeed, the CBPP report confirms this, and urges policymakers to rethink how they approach Federal debt and spending.

The bottom line is that arbitrary numerical targets for federal spending and revenues are misguided. Although history provides useful information and guidance, it should not be a straitjacket. What will be appropriate in 2020, 2030, or 2050 is not necessarily the same as in 1970 or 1980. Budgetary policies, like other policies, must respond to changing circumstances. “As our cause is new,” wrote Abraham Lincoln, “so we must think anew, and act anew.”

And this:

In our view, the aging of the population, the continued importance of Social Security and Medicare, the growth in federal responsibilities in recent years in areas such as homeland security, and rising health care costs justify higher levels of federal spending and revenues over the next 40 years than over the past four decades.

Let the Congress have ears to hear.

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ysbaddaden's picture

As long as they have a target to shoot, they're happy.


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JugOPunch's picture

What percent of those interest payment goes to social security. Social security bought a ton government debt. It seems to me there is double counting going on in that graph.


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Alien_Overlord's picture
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You are dead WRONG - SS is THE REASON that the country is not BROKE YET !!! There has been borrowing against the SS to pay for other budget programs, but now that the baby-boomers start to retire some are afraid that the SCAM will be uncovered.


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Milquetoast's picture

Social security bought a ton of gv't debt a long time ago!

...there is triple (even quadruple counting) going on in that graph!

the s.s. "fund" has no gold in it. ...just collateralized debt obligations and credit default swaps!


audit-prosecute-incarcerate

Alien_Overlord's picture

Wait, what what ? And when is that "long time ago" ?


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ysbaddaden's picture
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Wrong, they're paid for through payroll taxes, but not income taxes.

And since the government is not allowed to run a profit, any overage has to spread out to other departments.

The problem with that practice is it decreases the amount of debt over all,

Such as undeclared wars and then tax cuts for the top 5%.

At least the rest of us when targeted for tax relief, it goes right back into the currency stream, so the grocer who sells the food, and the clothier who sells the clothes can hire, and pay taxes on what the earned.


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Alien_Overlord's picture
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BINGO !!!


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ysbaddaden's picture
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And of course, the employee pays at least payroll taxes, if not income, and the sale's tax goes to cash-strapped states and municipalities.


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Milquetoast's picture

Targets?: "terrists who hate our freedoms"

Spending?: "way too much"


audit-prosecute-incarcerate

ysbaddaden's picture
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On what?


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Milquetoast's picture

we are spending too much on "targets"

(costs a lot of money to "target terrists")

get it now?


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ysbaddaden's picture
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(Moved)


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ysbaddaden's picture
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5UL-t7JMVE

Can't be any more specific huh? Just what I was expecting.


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Milquetoast's picture

we spend too much on war.

(happy now?)


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ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Alien_Overlord's picture
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Don't forget intelligence.


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ysbaddaden's picture
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I wasn't, that's part of defense spending.

Of course the last I heard was there were 16 intelligence agencies, but it may've grown exponentially since the creation of homeland defense, according to:

http://projects.washingtonpost.com/top-secret...


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Milquetoast's picture

...is "offensive".


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Alien_Overlord's picture
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Nope there are tree of them: military, intelligence and war.

When there are no wars there is military and intelligence, but intelligence part ALWAYS manage to evade the public eye and it shouldn't because they spend like crazy too.


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ysbaddaden's picture
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I'd hate to water that tree...

But I was categorizing it the way Congress does in it's own bills, but as part of the so called, "Black Book."


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Alien_Overlord's picture

if our forefathers ever thought that we are gonna turn into such a "war mongering country".

P.S. I'm NOT including the defense against Al-Qaeda in Talibanistan - the area b/w Afghanistan and Pakistan.


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ysbaddaden's picture
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They have 13 appropriation bills they have to pass every year in Congress, but what they spend on defense is classified.


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Fish's picture

Bring the troops home from around the globe and invest in America. We could pay off the national debt.


Republicans are liars and simply cannot be trusted.

Here we go again w/ the USUAL Retug bullying: tax hike, democratic tax increase and so on. This is where Democrats are supposed to "curl up in a fetal position" and "go in self-doubt mode" ...


Get your lemonade, watch the traitors hang.
Congress' TREASON have no boundaries, so does M$M's brainwashing/sidetracking.
Republicans for Voldemort.

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