UPDATED: Shootout in Oakland May Have Been Result of Pent-up Anti-Government Anger
Be forewarned, this video is disturbing and NSFW, language-wise. It is a real-time record of a shootout between the California Highway Patrol and an angry, well-armed man. While much of the visual is very dark, there's no question about what's going on. It was posted by Twitter user MannyBlack, who shot the video from his window during the shootout.
The shooter, Byron Williams, was shot by police during the gun battle and is in serious, but stable condition according to local news sources.
What is most disturbing about this is the emergent theme that Williams was angry at government, further stirred up by his unemployment and cable news. Whether this theme plays out as facts emerge, this much is clear: He was well-armed, well-armored, and looking to do harm to someone.
An early report from SFGate.com:
As officers walked toward the pickup, they saw the man pick up a handgun, police said. They said they returned gunfire and radioed for help.
Three CHP vehicles had their windows shot out, but no officers were shot, police said. They said the driver was armed with a rifle and a shotgun as well as the handgun and fired at least two of the weapons during the shootout.
Morgan said the driver was hit numerous times and survived only because he was wearing a bullet-resistant vest.
As more details emerged, it was clear that this man was not simply a guy with a pistol in his truck. He caught the attention of officers for weaving in and out of traffic, cause for a routine stop.
The Tuolumne County man opened fire on two CHP officers who pulled him over on westbound Interstate 580 near Grand Avenue a few minutes before midnight, and continued shooting for several minutes with a high powered rifle before 10 officers returned fire and seriously wounded him, despite body armor he was wearing, CHP Sgt. Trent Cross said.
Cross said Byron Williams, a 45-year-old Groveland resident, was found with a pistol, a shotgun, the rifle, a bullet-resistant vest and a suspicious object that prompted investigators to call a bomb squad to the scene. The object was detonated without mishap in the center divide of the freeway, which cause headache nightmares throughout the East Bay.
"There is no doubt in our mind, given the body armor and the extensive amount of ammunition he had, that he was on his way to do a very serious crime against either someone or a group of people," Cross said. [read more...]
Williams is a convicted felon with two strikes. He was on parole and if stopped, would have been charged with a third-strike felony. However, police believe he was motivated by anti-government sentiments.
His background, coupled with the presence of possible explosives, was enough to prompt the FBI to get involved in the investigation, Cross said.
"Right now, this is not being looked at as a domestic terrorism case," Cross said Sunday afternoon. "But there's more evidence to go through, and that could change."
Among that evidence was a white three-ring binder recovered from the truck by a bomb squad robot. Scrawled by hand on the cover of the binder was the word, "California." Officials would not describe the contents of the binder.
His mother says that he was upset by the "left-wing Congress":
Williams' mother, Janice Williams of Groveland, said her son had been living next door and taking care of her father's house and land. She said he had been released from prison about 2 1/2 years ago after a felony conviction, which she declined to describe, and had almost completed his parole.
"He hasn't been able to get a job because he's an ex-felon and nobody will hire him," she said.
She said her son, who had been a carpenter and a cabinetmaker before his imprisonment, was angry about his unemployment and about "what's happening to our country."
Williams watched the news on television and was upset by "the way Congress was railroading through all these left-wing agenda items," his mother said. [Read more]
I'm inclined to take the mother's assertion with a grain of salt, given that she also said this:
She said she then checked the locked safe where she kept her guns, all legally purchased and owned, and found that they were also missing.
Janice Williams said she kept the guns because "eventually, I think we're going to be caught up in a revolution." But she said she had told her son many times that "he didn't have to be on the front lines."
I can't say for sure based on these sparse quotes whether this man was as anti-government as he is being painted. But his mother certainly sounds like she is, and it's not unreasonable to assume that she wasn't shy about making her views well-known to her son.
Caught up in a revolution... Sharron Angle's call for a "Second Amendment solution" echoed in those words. So did Sarah Palin's call for a revolution. Is it coincidence that Glenn Beck had a 7-hour long call for "American revival" among right-wingers yesterday and today we have someone armed, armored, and dangerous taking pot shots at California Highway Patrol officers?
Here's the thing. This mom and her son may have just been crazy, but that's always been the danger with inflamed rhetoric. It's not the sane ones I worry about. It's the angry, alienated, paranoid, out-of-touch with reality people who are stoked up on the nonsense spewed by Sarah Palin, Sharron Angle, Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh.
And let's not kid ourselves. It isn't only those out on the fringe stirring the pot. The phrase 'railroading through all those left-wing agenda items?' John McCain said virtually the very same thing in the Arizona debate Friday night. Republican senators routinely use the terms "shoved down" to refer to legislation passed that they've worked hard to block. Shoved and rammed down are two of their favorite phrases for any legislation passed by this Congress.
People hear it. Some dismiss it. Others laugh at it. Still others put on their armor like Glenn Beck told them to, pick up their breastplate of righteousness like he preached on stage yesterday, load up the guns and head out to fire the first volley.
Is this what happened? I'm not sure, but if that mother's remarks are any indicator, odds are it did.
UPDATE: Via KGO:
Investigators are trying to figure out where a man was heading Saturday with guns and body armor, when he got into a shootout with CHP officers on I-580 in Oakland.
In the meantime, FBI agents are looking into 45-year-old Byron Williams' background and the contents of his controversial diary which was seized after the shooting.
When Williams was arrested he was in possession of a high-powered rifle, a shotgun and a handgun. Authorities say he had enough ammunition on him to kill at least 50 people, but it was a notebook that brought the FBI into the picture. The contents of the notebook are still unknown, but information provided by his mother indicates he had a very serious problem with what he considered to be liberals and what they were doing to the United States.
SBC?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
It's too bad that the Reslug-teaparty nutcases are becoming dangerous terrorists.
I suggest you study the history of the Ku Klux Klan.
This stuff is totally standard for right-wingers. They've been doing this stuff over very long stretches of time. Let's not pretend this is an isolated incident.
People like this are not the disease...they are a symptom of the disease.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
the question, then, becomes, what is the disease? This article from Psychology Today seems to indicate that right-wing thinking and its associated neuroses (and in this case, psychosis) develops early in life.
People who were conservative at age 23 had been described by their teachers as easily victimized, easily offended, indecisive, fearful, rigid, inhibited, and vulnerable at age 3. The reason for the difference, the Blocks hypothesized, was that insecure kids most needed the reassurance of tradition and authority, and they found it in conservative politics.
When people afflicted with this mindset encounter change or novelty or any situation that requires flexibility of thought, they flip out. Usually not to Byron Williams' extent, but to a certain extent nonetheless. I've encountered it in microcosmic forms my whole working life. People cling to ineffective ways of doing things, and when you back them into a corner using logic, they freak, even (or especially) when the new way of doing something is obviously better. This is what is happening to our society. We are clinging to an ineffective way of doing things, and it's becoming obvious, which is causing people to freak.
Then I saw his photo and sadly, I knew why. Anyway, I guess now he won't have to worry about his unemployment checks. He'll be a ward of the state thanks to their 3 strikes law!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWj_tR64Ti4
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
They also said that he'd recentely tried to rob a bank in Chowchilla California while wearing a blonde wig but, was laughed out of the bank! What a dumbass. As I stated on TPM, fox will probably claim that this guy is a plant of the Dems.
I'm gonna scoop FOX.
Obviously this anger is due to the lack of tax cuts and the evil socialist left agenda like extending unemployment insurance and socialist healthcare.
Are bullet wounds a pre existing condition if I knowingly get in a firefight with the government's armed thugs?
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
tried to rob that bank back in 2002. Still sounds hilarious!
Doncha know you betcha!
The clock just keeps ticking. We know its going to happen, we see its going to happen; the clock just keeps ticking.
If the Democrats had any spine, they would have put real remedies out there - a much larger stimulus, jobs bill, universal health care, close Wall Street loopholes, make the Corporations pay for their meltdown.
Instead, we get watered down pabulum. People are getting to the breaking point. Not just the right wing crazies but real people, people who have lost everything - right wing, left wing, the whole damn bird.
the clock still keeps ticking.
????
I'd be tempted to put most everything down as a rationalization of what very well could have been an attempt at suicide by cop. Wouldn't be the first such instance, plus this character sounds just bent enough to have thought about getting some notoriety instead of surviving and getting another long stretch.
Or he could be the individual who personifies Hunter S. Thompson's description of Murka- America... just a nation of two hundred million used car salesmen with all the money we need to buy guns and no qualms about killing anybody else in the world who tries to make us uncomfortable.
Also, if he was upset about his unemployment benefits, the GOP is largely responsible for blocking them. At least the Dems, except for Beek Nosed Nelson actualy want to extend the benefits. What a dumbass!
I'm sorry, I have little sympathy for this guy or his mother, who moaned at the end of the article, now our lives are over. Did someone force your idiot son, who had almost completed his parole, to take weapons and body armor onto the freeway and shoot at cops? He couldn't find a job? Join the club, asshole.
Guns + crazy = trouble
It is a long standing rule.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
The mother played a leading role in his craziness and they were her guns. She should be locked up right alongside her son.
Guns + crazy + fox news = big trouble
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln
((X Guns*Bullets)+Explosives(cubed) + Crazy*(Propaganda)*(Cable Access + Internet Usage))/mobility = Trouble
Consider it a work in progress...
"When are we going to stop trying to tell elected officials what to do. Our job is to spend the taxpayers' money the best way we can." -- Tommy Watkins, Justice of the Peace, Crawford County, Arkansas
contributed to her son's state of mind:
Janice Williams said she kept the guns because "eventually, I think we're going to be caught up in a revolution." But she said she had told her son many times that "he didn't have to be on the front lines."
This is why I personally think that people should be given a mental health test before being allowed to breed. You can look and listen to a lot of people who's children will someday grow up and be most likely to don a blonde wig and rob a back. Wingnut loons!
own a gun, live anywhere but in Australia.. A seperate continent of idiots! Sorry Decent Australians.
thanks to the lies and misinformation from the regressive right wingnut media machine.
And it is quite clear some of the right wing media is violating the terms of their contracts to rent/lease the public airwaves.
If the FCC had any teeth left they'd yank the license of Fox and Rush and other wingnut media blowhards, they are very clearly going beyond their agreement to use the public airwaves in a responsible manner.
Biblespice Sarah Palin "Refudiates" this guy and Ma Barker on twitter! Ha!
BibleSpice!!
Now that's hilarious!
Thanks!
Someone over on the huffington post called her that and I just loved it. It's perfect though.
Very good humor!
I'm glad you repeated it.
Thank the Lord that individuals like this one have ready access to multiple firearms.
This is exactly what Sharron Angle meant when she said second amendment remedies!
What a bunch of cowards!
I thought the GOP had their groove back? I guess if they can't win outright they'll just shoot their way into the majority?
a few days ago.
Elements right out of central casting.
In fact, being unemployed I guess means more time to sit around and watch Fox News?
But there's always enough money to pay the cable bill.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Some cities force Cable providers to provide certain channels for free. There's also antennas.
Without getting too deep into this. FOX is not an over the air broadcast...and I know of no cable system where it's not part of "basic".
The "free channels" are the old over the air national and local networks.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
and Clearchannel makes sure EVERYONE gets at least one FOX station in their city.
Reminds me of the movie "Falling Down".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54Q_nbw2Xvo
Hopefully humanity will one day learn to be humane.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jdh3OusFF-k
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Which came out last year, its got to be a new favourite of any wannabe gun-nut out for a spree.
Low budget student or graduate movie, An intriguing story but VERY VERY brutal and disturbing movie.
Imagine how far to the right you'd have to be to see this congress as "left-wing".
Delusional Wingnut Syndrome
There is no known cure.
turn off faux news. Also, a dose of voting for Democrats can help even if the side affects are headachs and sometimge nausea.
Shakespeare made up words too! Sometimes, Ha!
But usually his inventions had some sort of artistic,literary intent and purpose and a much firmer grounding in linguistic convention.Princess Sparklre Caribou the Temptress of the Tundra is just a semi-literate moron trying to sound somewhat intelligent, if not profound.Actually that sort of thing would almost lead me to believe it was actually her who composed that particular tweet
Headaches!
a felon who blames others for his criminality, who thinks it's his right to use violence to get his way, and of course hates all them thar libruls.
what an idiot.
However, police believe he was motivated by anti-government sentiments.
"Right now, this is not being looked at as a domestic terrorism case," Cross said Sunday afternoon. "But there's more evidence to go through, and that could change."
a stunning comparison. here you have a nutjob, whack-a-doodle, armed to the teetch, possible explosives, bullet-resistant vest, shooting at cops, etc. and they 'authorities' are not considering this to be domestic terrorism.
then compare that to the AETA4:
USA v. Buddenberg, four animal rights activists are accused of chanting, making leaflets and writing with chalk on the sidewalk in front of a senior bio-researcher's house, as well as using the internet to research the company whose actions they planned to protest. Under the AETA, they are charged with acts of animal enterprise terrorism.
[AETA: The Animal Enterprise Terrorism Act]
http://www.alternet.org/rights/141328/the_animal_enterprise_terrorism_act:_the_most_dangerous_domestic_terror_law_you've_never_heard_of/
selective prosecution.
If you're a drooling right wingnut you're not considered a terrorist, you're called a patriot with a gun.
If you're a lefty on a bicycle you're a terrorist.
Arrested during the Democratic Party convention, armed to the teeth with scoped bipoded high power hunting rifles, one was an escaped con, all were prime material for teabag membership. One confessed that they were after Obama, confession was put on the web by the DoJ, Colorado republican AG dropped all charges against them.
chalk.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
I hope they kick his ass in jail for that blonde wig stunt. Although I'm sure there will be other things they'll want to do to his ass in jail!
the whites in jail will grovel at his feet , shooting cops , hating libs , no they will worship him .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
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every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
at cops isn't cool. It's pathetic and ignorant.
hope he succumbs from his wounds .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
And at what point does "fringe loner" stop being so "fringe" and start becoming "expected?"
more of a domestic (as in garden variety) nutbar case. Having made some rather obviously poor decisions in his life, at least some of which he was called to account for committing, he now decides that someone must pay.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
But that's pretty much exactly the type of people who conservatives like to target. People who've made mistakes, people who think that their failing world is not happening BECAUSE of hypercaptialism, it's happening IN SPITE of it.
And because their country is meant to be a God-given Exceptional place, something must be to be acting AGAINST a perfect country with a perfect institution, a conspiracy of the biggest proportion. And they turn on the radio, and are told exactly who they can blame.
Our economy is based on the charity of the wealthy. If you threaten the wealthy with taxes, then you quell the trickle down effect and mayhem ensues. Normal, everyday folks like this two-time convicted felon who ordinarily wouldn't harm a flea find themselves with their backs against the wall and are forced to arm themselves with all manner of weapons including bombs, don body armor and must fight to protect the wealthy, God, and unaborted fetuses. ALL BECAUSE OF YOU!
The charity of the wealthy.
I like fairy tales too!
...That has absolutely nothing to do with a tragic police shoot-out. If you want to argue the myth that is "trickle-down economics," I'm sure there's plenty of other posts for you be assaulted by intelligent liberals, armed with actual graphs, and numbers, and facts that will, ultimately, not change the mind of someone who thinks GOD is punishing them.
imo
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
The phrase "...everyday folks like this two-time convicted felon who ordinarily wouldn't harm a flea..." is kind of a giveaway.
Yeah....everyday folks...you know...the real Americans...that BibleSpice, John Boner, Mitch "help me I'm melting" McConnell and John "honor me for my maverickyness" McCain wouldn't be caught dead having a beer with.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Dr. Laura, Pat Robertson, Tony Perkins, Focus on the Fuckups, the Family Retard Council, David Diaper-sex Vitter, etc., etc.
If it was, I retract and apologize.
I suppose you think it's normal for a two-time convicted felon to become violent. I suppose you think this 45 year old man living with his mom is some sort of loser. Shows what you know.
I suppose you think this 45 year old man living with his mom is some sort of loser.
Hey, hey...leave the right wing bloggers outta dis!
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
If he gets out of jail again, they'll argue he has the right to own guns. Again. It may even be the reason for being able to THIS time, AFTER being a convicted felon.
The scariest phrase in the world is apparently "The NRA is rating you!"
Remember, guns actually PREVENT crime. They don't cause situations like.. uh.. this one.
the right to own guns IN jail. Jail is a dangerous place. How's he gonna protect himself there without guns?
One good thing about jail, though -- there's hardly any commies there. Mostly it's patriots. And brown people.
Fair satire- perhaps not Swiftian but still a pretty good and a demonstration of Poe's Law
Similar to Murphy's Law, Poe's Law concerns internet debates, particularly regarding religion or politics. "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing." In other words, No matter how bizzare, outrageous, or just plain idiotic a parody of a Fundamentalist may seem, there will always be someone who cannot tell that it is a parody, having seen similar REAL ideas from real religious/political Fundamentalists.
;)
You're absolutely right. I hang out at the Media Matters board sometimes, and often, someone'll say something that'll make a statement like that look tame and reasonable.
It's actually sorta... nice, here, on C&L. Especially since they actually delete REAL troll posts.
You wouldn't believe some of the shit I've fallen for.
2 cent stamps in a dozen ?
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
Yes?
6 of one and a half dozen of the other.
you get two prizes , hehe
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
where he got his strange ideas from they need only read the AP story. He got it all from his mom. I hope he got her a nice bandoleer for Mother's Day.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
once , it was stuffed with joints
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
8^P
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
we all were leery eyed by the crack of lunch .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
"He hasn't been able to get a job because he's an ex-felon and nobody will hire him," she said.
But, that's good old conservative values! Don't give those dirty criminals a job. They must be kept away from the "good" people.
Hey, it could have been worse. He could have been a rehabilitated child molester...then he wouldn't even be allowed to live in the neighborhood.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Isn't that what politics is for?
No. Politics is about setting yourself in a cushy position of power to reap the benefits of being an insider.
You're talking about "social engineering" which is BAAAAD! Unless it is used to improve the lot of those in power, under the pretense of promoting freedom and liberty and safety for everyone else.
The hell with what is right. The hell with suppositions that once a person has paid their debt to society, that they are entitled to rejoin society. The hell with fairness, and morality and a sense of community.
It's only about...I got mine...fuck everyone else.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
How calm these two guys were, while filming this happening, right in their own neighborhood. I know this happens every day, but no one should ever become accustom to this much violence.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln
is what life in Oakland is about at times.
I was born and raised there , new one woman who worked at one of the hospitals ( er ), its nick name was the Oakland knife and gun club .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
was born and raised across the bay in SF.
I worked in both SF and Oakland on ambulance crews, and did my time at Highland and AltaBates. I worked as an EMT at Highland ER for few shifts a month as well. Oakland was way more bloody than SF.
Highland
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
Wasn't it in Oakland that a LEO shot and killed a prostrate unarmed black man in the back while placing him under arrest in a BART station, something to do with disorderly conduct ??
Somehow the LEO "mistook" his service pistol for his Taser ??
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
one of my cousins says the only reason he made it thru Namm was because he had to stop in Oakland over night .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
ginned up by the Fox Terror Channel.
If corporations are so big on the free market and freedom, how come they don't sponsor "Bring Your Gun To Work Day".
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
... among employees in the prison, law enforcement, and military complexes?
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
I am reminded of a relatively recent incident (in Chicago?) where witnesses saw a man with a pistol through an office building window. Streets were sealed off, the SWAT team arrived, and an obviously disgruntled man was apprehended and disarmed, of his pistol made of Legos ...
That recollection was not to disparage in any way the seriousness of the situation that the Original Post was about ...
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
as soon as I heard the shooter was white, lived outside of Yosemite with mommy I figured him to be some sort of Fox News watching sovereign state nutcase. We'll see if that plays out or not.
BTW for the commenter above who said if he gets out of prison he'll be able to buy more guns... nope with CA's 3 strikes law he's in the big house for the rest of his life.
I really want to know what is in the binder.
And I just love the disconnect, he's made made and not going to take it anymore at what the libruls in congress is doing. Idiot.
Mr. Williams is just another good soldier in Professor Beck's "Low Status Army." He's highly under-educated (go ahead, refudiate me), and whose only claim to fame is having been born Caucasian and in the USA! USA! The motto of the LSA is, "Theirs not to reason why."
Our society is under stress. Unemployment is affecting millions across the country. We have been in a sustained war for over 100 months - now on two fronts, we’re less than 10 years removed from 9/11, and we have an ongoing “worst” ecological disaster in the Gulf, a Great Recession, record home foreclosures, and an economic downturn not seen since the Great Depression. Life is hard right now. The reason Glenn Beck et all can fan the flames is because the timbers are smoldering in the first place.
Prolonged stress takes its toll first on the fringes of society. The edges crumble first because they are the least stable. People in these situations first look for answers, and there is a network in place to give them what they’re looking for.
Day after day you can hear how the evil Obama Empire has caused this misery. 24/7 there is a radio station or cable news channel devoted to telling this story. 10 years ago it might have been disregarded as political mumbo-jumbo, but the constant noise in this time of stress is taking its toll. More and more accept the political rhetoric as Gospel because it’s an easy answer. The fringe, with nothing more to lose, takes it to the extremes that their lives have become.
Rush tells them it’s not their fault, it’s some guy in Washington. Fox News faults the President. Glenn says a war is coming. Sarah says pick up your guns. A radio voice on 1040 AM says fight.
This person lives on the fringe. The fringe is crumbling. This person fought. It’s not the first time this has happened. It won’t be the last.
... but it is the left the ones stuck with the monickers of "radical and violent" from breaking a couple of windows at a protest.
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
I think there are two reasons for that:
While local law-enforcement still targets those crazy kids with the leaflets, the FBI and more sophisticated organizations have already realized where the real violence is smoldering. It ain't UCLA anymore.
and I feel strongly that it's important to acknowledge and address this reality, the Corporate Megalomaniacs have a vested interest in manipulating the hoi polloi to advance their agenda, which includes a continued amassing of power and wealth in their hands. Truly, it's not a stretch--nor is it paranoia--to observe that the media and various marketing venues (established primarily to promote a consumer mentality among the hoi polloi) are being used to keep the masses divided and divisive. Arrogant corporatists think they have a handle on this powder keg, or they think they will be shielded from the death and destruction in the hallowed confines of Richistan.
Our species is rumbling inexorably toward the biggest social upheaval we've ever experienced. These isolated sparks of violence are just the beginning.
When liberals act rambunctious, it's a side effect of their immigrant/drug/welfare-induced status, and they're trying to steal money so that they can continue their voluntary joblessness. .
When conservatives go out with shotguns and hit-lists, it's because liberals divided the country in half by not all being conservatives.
i definitely agree that the right wing hate machine is affecting these peoples minds, mores the pity. i also agree with some other sentiments i see here,
"Prolonged stress takes its toll first on the fringes of society. The edges crumble first because they are the least stable. People in these situations first look for answers, and there is a network in place to give them what they’re looking for."
i see a demand for "respect" from everyday people i meet, this is not a bad thing, and people should be given respect; it is when it becomes pathological that things turn violent. when the slightest thing can set someone off, because maybe you "dissed" them, then you know we are living inside a powder keg.
i really believe we are a nation of walking wounded, millions of people undervalued, commodified, and only paid what the market will bear, a recipe for disaster.
whether right wing nut-jobs, or gangsters on the street, they are all a product of our sick society.
in other crime news
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0718/afghan-iraq-...
"Enough ammunition to kill 50 people..." Yikes.
contains 50 rounds (9mm). Seeing that he had 3 weapons, I'm sure the ammo was broken out into the rifle, shotgun, and handgun. Ammo count would mean more to the story than "enough ammo to kill 50' since that could easily be 50 rounds, or just one box. One box of ammo to me does not justify a "yikes", but that's just me.
One box of ammo is a yikes any day of the week. Maybe ask the CHP officers how "yikes" feels when some right wingnut domestic terrorist lunatic is popping off rounds in their direction??
in anyone's direction is cause for "yikes". One box of ammo is not. I carry a box of ammo to the range when I go, big deal.
thing you're assuming is there was only one box of ammo. The cops said he had enough ammo to kill 50 people. They did not say "one box of ammo", you did.
Sorry, it's still a yikes moment when cops have any ammo fired at them.
One box of ammo belonging to someone shooting at cops on the freeway is still a yikes!
"eventually, I think we're going to be caught up in a revolution."
I tend to agree with that statement, but arming yourself to the teeth and wreaking havoc and causing blood-shed is not the answer. Defending yourself and your family is one thing, terrorism is another. Unfortunately there are those on the lunatic fringe who do not share this point of view.
This country is becoming scarier and scarier.
Government + the Federal Reserve = organized crime
This is no lone nut case. This is a movement being encouraged by dangerous people around the country. Let's not forget the shooting in the Church down South and the father-son shootout in Arkansas, among many other incidents. They are becoming unhinged. It is very important that we hold our emotions at an even keel and not allow the ugly powers to intimidate us.
Doubt this will get a lot of national media play- the guy's not a muslim.
I highly doubt this will make the cable shows and if it does it will be a 30 second blurb convienently omitting his anti-government beliefs.
That qualifies him for his own show on Fox "News".
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?" - General Jack D. Ripper
Want to bet it has something to do with that white notebook labeled "California" they found in his car? That the cops refuse to elaborate on?
And this:
From TPM: ""I have no doubt it is him," Williams said. "He's been upset with the direction the country is going. ... He feels the people of this country are being raped by our government and politicians."
Janice Williams said she kept the guns, which were locked in safe, because "eventually, I think we're going to be caught up in a revolution." She also told the Chronicle that she had warned Byron that "he didn't have to be on the front lines."
She told California Beat that "he had a lot of angst with the politicians, both those running California and those running the country."
I'd bet that "California" book has a list of California politicians he was going after. He was an assassin. And maybe he was a loner...maybe not.
"Do you realize that fluoridation is the most monstrously conceived and dangerous Communist plot we have ever had to face?" - General Jack D. Ripper
Janice Williams said she kept the guns because "eventually, I think we're going to be caught up in a revolution." But she said she had told her son many times that "he didn't have to be on the front lines."
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I This was a hate crime: I hate the damn left-wing Liberals. There is a vast left-wing conspiracy in this country + these liberals are working together to attack every decent + honorable institution in the nation, trying to turn this country into a communist state. Shame on them.
II This was a Political Protest: I’m protesting the liberal Supreme court justices for give the terrorists at GITMO constitutional rights. I’m protesting the major News outlets, ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, PBS for being the propaganda wing of the Democratic Party. It’s criminal what their getting away with. They’re traitors! They must be stopped. I’m protesting the DNC running such a radical leftist candidate. Osama Hussein Obama, yo mama. No experience, no brain, a joke. Dangerous to America, Hell, he looks like curious george!
III This was a symbolic killing: Who I wanted to kill was every Democrat in the Senate, + house, the 100 people in Bernard Goldberg’s book. I’d like to kill everyone in the mainstream media. But I knew these people were inaccessible to me. I couldn’t get to the generals + high ranking officers of the Marxist movement so I went after the foot soldiers, the chicken shit liberals that vote in these traitorous people. Someone had to get the ball rolling, I volunteered, I hope others do the same, it’s the only way we can rid America of this cancer this pestilence.
In Conclusion:
No one gets out of this world alive so I’ve chosen to skip the bad years of poverty. I know my life is going downhill fast from here. The future looks bleak. I’m sick + tired of being sick + tired, I’m absolutely fed up! So I though I’d do some good for this country kill Democrats til the cops kill me. If decent patriotic Americans could vote 3 times in every election we couldn’t stem this tide of liberalism that’s destroying America. Liberals are a pest like termites. Millions of them. Each little bite contributes to the downfall of this great Nation. The only way we can rid ourselves of this evil, is kill them in the streets, kill them were they gather.
I’d like to encourage other like minded people to do what I’ve done. If life aint worth living anymore, don’t just kill yourself, do something for your country before you go. Go Kill Liberals! Tell the cop that killed me that I said “ Thanks, I needed that!”
...seized three books from Adkisson's home, including "The O'Reilly Factor," by television commentator Bill O'Reilly; "Liberalism is a Mental Disorder," by radio personality Michael Savage; and "Let Freedom Ring," by political pundit Sean Hannity.
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Remember this lone nutcase? "... There doesn't appear to be anyone else acting in concert with Mr. Bedell."
Study the symptoms not the virus...
was just passing through my town Oakland. I don't think the out-of-town crazies on the freeway really count toward our reputation.
It's a nice town with a bad rap to make white people titillated by the crime (the rate has dropped significantly) and sell TV commercials.
And yes, RIP Oscar Grant who was murdered by that BART cop.
Just so you know, I am a white liberal lefty OAKLANDER and I love my city.
Campaign For Liberty, Freedom & Liberty Tea Party, Liberty Tea Party Patriots, Liberty tea party
Study the symptoms not the virus...
When they name everything liberty this and liberty that, if ya haven't realized it yet it's short for "Religious/liberty", but I'm sure you're aware. In a short rash statement...
DOMA, DADT, prop-8, Mathew Shepard act, health care reform... socialism this communism that. What does communism have to do with religion?
They're afraid they'll have to issue condemns or the morning after pill at work and perform gay weddings in there churches, they're mad because they can get in extra trouble, for beating a GLBT individual more then what they would a normal one, or at least what they consider/perceive as normal. You can bet that recent court ruling in CAL. that told the cretins they could not discriminate and get support from the college, pissed a lot of them off. (That's the cram it down our throat(s) ruling stuff they cry about & the god given free will to hate people is their right)
Ya think Prop 8 failed solely because of republicans? Stupak–Pitts?
We can stop this crap like we can stop it in the middle-east. It's a true fundamentalist that will not take no for an answer. They have some good points, though they can't... for the most part, compromise and carry out their creed, and therein lies the challenge.
Ah... tomorrows another day... :-/
Study the symptoms not the virus...
But our self-neutered "liberal" media will never call him that.
In today's media you can only be a terrorist if you are foreign or Moslem. White Christians are NEVER called terrorists.
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