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California Democrat Francine Busby lost a heated 2006 race against Republican Brian Bilbray that was plagued by voting irregularities and a hasty swearing in of Bilbray by then Speaker of the House, Dennis Hastert.

Fast forward to last Friday night, and a Busby fundraiser for her 2010 run that ended in what appears to be a gross miscarriage of justice and innocent people being assaulted with pepper spray and physically abused -- all based on a bogus complaint from a bigot in the neighborhood:

ENCINITAS — Francine Busby says she will demand an explanation from the Sheriff's Department about deputies breaking up a fundraising party held for her in Cardiff and arresting the host.

The party was Friday night in the 1300 block of Rubenstein Avenue, the home of Shari Barman, a Busby supporter.

It ended with Barman, 60, being arrested and jailed on suspicion of battery on a peace officer, and resisting, delaying and obstructing a peace officer.

Pam Morgan, 62, a Rancho Santa Fe resident and one of the guests, also was arrested and taken to the Encinitas Sheriff's Station, where she was cited for resisting, delaying and obstructing a peace officer.

Here's where things get interesting. Apparently, the hosts of the fundraiser are a lesbian couple and they just happen to have one nasty, homophobic neighbor:

During Busby's speech, Barman said in a statement yesterday, a man on the property behind her house shouted “disparaging remarks” about Busby and gay people. Barman lives in the house with her partner, Jane Stratton, 55.

“It was a quiet home reception, disrupted by a vulgar person shouting obscenities from behind the bushes,” Busby said. Read on...

This situation was clearly mishandled by the officers involved and I hope Francine and her friends get a formal and very public apology and that all charges in the matter are dropped. C&L helped raise money for her in 2006, how about we do it again for 2010? Please visit Francine Busby's website and show her some love and support!



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Important stuff...But by today's standard....Very old news.

48 hours old .. tsk tsk!

legit grousing acceptable, of course. But this is stretching...Surely you haven't run of of shit to bitch about around here, Johnny2Bad?

;)

Yeah I gotta admit the bitching fodder has been pretty minimal. Damn.

Why does it seem that the police have pretty much adopted the philosophy of "tazer and pepper spray first, and ask questions later".

This is not how Sheriff Andy would have handled things in Maybury.

of asshole individual to its ranks.

Sting?

;-)

But Barney would have...Of course he would've tazed and pepper-sprayed himself and inanimate objects.

That neighbor of hers needs someone to throw him a boot party.

"one nasty, homophobic neighbor" should
be visited with multiple civil law suits
for harm committed by his jackass behavior.
there are consequences for being a asshole.

mine.

I voted for Busby on an electronic voting system (cards counted by a Diebold machine). Pre-election polls indicated Busby was ahead by several points, but then...surprise, surprise, Bilbray appeared to get more votes.

Rigged.

Couldn't have a clean representative like Busby in Dukie's old district, too many military contractors to care for, right? LOL

They sound pretty violent to me. Aside from suing the neighbor, I hope Barman sues every single pig and the Sheriff's Department. And I use the term "pig" quite deliberately. Officers who do their jobs properly deserve to be called officers. These idiots are pigs.

I think you're just upset because the Lieutenant got mad at you for tracking mud across his nice clean floors.

(Sorry. Couldn't resist. In truth, you're correct. The neighbor needs to have legal action taken against him.)

Yeah, it's amazing. This guy pepper sprays 60 year old ladies, and he's considered a "peace" officer...Oh, yeah, that's right: Up is down, war is peace, etc., etc.........BUT, don't you think you're being a little unfair to pigs?

come in handy. Someone should have remained in the house and taped it.

Exactly!

some tape will show up...has to be some security cameras in a fancy hood like that.

now the Sheriff's Dept can spin it anyway they want.

I'd love to hear the 911 call though.

Those god damn lesbians two houses down are disturbing my rest! I'm tired of it! I pay property taxes! Now I want you to come over here and fix it!!!

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Wow, those west coast police are insane. What the hell is going on over there? Sounds way worse than where I live(PA), our cops are total wimps compared to them, still corrupt, but they don't beat on or kill the local residents on a regular basis.

It's much more effective when the police attacks are done from time to time, completely at random. Keeps the riff-raff constantly guessing, y'know?

place in San Diego County to live in.

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Same thing that's been going on for decades. SoCal police are empowered by the wealthy to be the biggest assholes possible, especially when dealing with "riff-raff". Those of us who live here don't see this as anything unusual at all. Your cops don't act like this? Count yourself VERY lucky.

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Central PA, Cumberland county, to be specific. I have said F You to a police officer more than once, never tazered, never beaten. It is a right wing area too. Maybe the city police in Philly and Pittsburgh, but still, CA and Washington on the west coast just seem way out of control. A few years back a black man was shot in Harrisburg but gays and lesbians normally aren't involved in weird story's like this. I wish allot of you would move here and flood this area. I have been screwed on paper and in court but not physically violated by officers in uniform.

He said deputies returned later when the party hadn't quieted down, and one deputy asked for Barman's date of birth so he could file paperwork alerting the city to the noise complaints.

Sheriff's officials said Barman refused to give the deputy the information, and that's when things got out of control. A crowd of about 30 to 50 partygoers surrounded Barman when he tried to arrest her, and they were able to separate her from the deputy, Yancey said.

The San Diego Union-Tribune, LLC

"A crowd of about 30 to 50 partygoers surrounded Barman when he tried to arrest her, and they were able to separate her from the deputy, Yancey said."

They hate it when you question their judgment and moral authority.

"Vee are zee police, oont vee are alvays right!"

They didn't return. There has never been an allegation that there was excessive noise when the sheriff came out.

The Sheriff if he had chosen to could have gone to the neighbor who was shouting and gotten both sides. He didn't need to ask her birthdate, he was trolling for a conflict.

should be called the Pro-Business Repug Times. You familiar with it? I am. It's good for birdcages.

Truth, justice and the American spray.

People keep assuming California is a liberal bastion - WRONG. L.A., San Francisco, Santa Cruz - those areas are. The rest is just as red as any place in Texas. Encinitas? PLEASE. RED RED RED. San Diego and Orange Counties are God's country. Police are bigots, Minutemen abound, and this kind of shit is NOTHING NEW. The only thing that makes it newsworthy is that a candidate was involved. Otherwise? Business as usual.

Why do you think I never go more than 20 miles south of L.A.?

You get much further north than Fairfield (about 40 mins. north of San Francisco), and it's like you've crossed over into the Twilight Zone. You're suddenly hip-deep in flag stickers and Jesus fish and "W 04" decals.

How to exercise your constitutional rights during encounters with police.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA

civil rights class.

So the deputy felt threatened by a crowd of menopausal women and the neighbor was awakened at 9:30 pm? This is beyond lame. I'm just picturing a Stonewall raid on Wisteria Lane.

I know technically they are the same, but I think puma implies die hard Clintonista nowadays

Busby herself admitted having used a sound amplification device of some sort for about 30 minutes at her event. a citizens complaint reference the noise was made. the home owner named Barman, refused to provide her full name or birth date to responding officers and she attempted to walk away. the officer took her into custody for failure to provide this information pursuant the noise complaint. persons there interfered with the officer's arrest. pepper spray was used when persons did in fact forcibly remove Barman from police custody as well as batter the arresting officer. Barman was placed in jail and another person was cited on scene for physically interfering with her arrest.
all of this could have been avoided by Barman simply identifying herself by full name and birth date.
some may purport a right wing conspiracy but this is one huge stretch for a simple noise complaint gone wrong.
I voted for Busby last time, however, this is less likely this time around.

... cooperation with the authorities, but it seems to me that the response was entirely out of proportion to the complaint.

I would think, "Ma'am, sorry to bother you, but we've had a complaint about the noise level ... could you make an effort to dial it down a bit? Uh-huh. You have a good evening, now," should more than suffice.

It's Friday night and they have explained the situation with the neighbor. What trouble would he be in if he didn't get a birthdate on his little form.

I've been on the receiving end of that, when I was the one sober person at the party specifically to deal with the police. Generally one car, no sirens, no lights, thirty seconds of conversation. Never asked my name or anything else either.

I live in a very nice neighborhood. It's quiet, but occassionally everyone makes a little noise from time to time. Especially the people with built-in pools.

But since it occurs only on occassion, evrybody lets it slide. It is part of being a good neighbor. I would be willing to bet that the 30 minutes or so that the mike was on, was the only time this couple ever made noise. The bigot jackass was just looking for an excuse to call the cops and complain.

This moron was probably not being bothered at all. He is just a twisted, hate-filled SOB, that jumped at the first opportunity to "officially" harrass these women.

Furthermore, they probably have to put up with his bullshit (and idiotic mouth) ALL the time. I know the type. I know other gay couples that cannot walk outside their house without their redneck idiot neighbors yelling something stupid at them, or acting like jackasses. And then the cops show up on behalf of the psycho, when they are simply trying to have a little fun with some friends. I have been there before with a psychotic neighbor I use to have, and it DOES piss you off.

I can't believe how much shit some people have to put up with.

what kind of neighbors live on the block you plan to buy or rent at.

It's amazing how often people fail to do this.

... if only cops weren't so enamored of their own supposed superior authority and their assumed right to use force to impose that superior authority.

Sounds to me like the guy who showed up is a coward who doesn't know how to interact with normal human beings, and should be thrown off the force.

begun.

Other neighbors disputed the noise, saying they had their windows open and the noise was minimal. The complaint came from someone with a political axe to grind, which isn't surprising in North County.

I had a party the same night about 2 miles away, and everyone was drinking and having a good time. Not one visit from the Sherrif's dept.

Busby said she used a mic between 8 and 8:30. The sheriff came out at 9:30. No one has alleged that the was excessive noise at the time of the complaint.

The people there made it clear that the neighbor was yelling and it wouldn't have taken much to go to the neighbor's residence and ask it their allegations were true.

The local media is playing it up as a big deal. This two year sheriff should go back to being a rentacop.

Cops don't respond to noise complaints with eight cop cars and a FUCKING HELICOPTER. The presence of helicopter alone makes it obvious the cops were out to fuck with liberals, not respond to a noise complaint. Given that, it is absolutely certain that the cops are lying about the incident.

The other cars and the chopper were called after the confrontation.

So the thugs claim... their word is worthless.

Been here all my life. The Sheriffs do have a reputation for being assholes.

"Peace officer"... what a delightful euphemism.

So the cops had to get tough with a 62 year old lesbian? What's next?

Probably the loudest thing around that night was the bigot idiot yelling insults at his neighbors. He's probably a member of the local GOP who is a closet case himself.

I mean really, just how wild does a party of 55+ year old women get?

From: Candidate to confront deputies over raid

The Sheriff's Department received the complaint at 9:33 p.m. from a man who said someone was talking on a loudspeaker and a crowd was cheering, keeping him awake.

From about 8 to 8:30 p.m., Busby said, she used an amplified microphone to talk to guests, whom she described as middle-aged supporters.

During Busby's speech, Barman said in a statement yesterday, a man on the property behind her house shouted “disparaging remarks” about Busby and gay people. Barman lives in the house with her partner, Jane Stratton, 55.

After her talk, Busby said, people chatted.

“It was a quiet home reception, disrupted by a vulgar person shouting obscenities from behind the bushes,” Busby said.

Neighbors on three sides of the house said yesterday there wasn't much noise from the party. One man said he slept through it.

“We didn't hear anything until the sheriff came, with eight patrol cars and a helicopter,” said Natasha Cortina, 43, who said she and her two children were home with the windows open.

Hugh Elliott, 53, who lives closest to the house, said he heard a deputy's radio, then arguing, coughing, crying and finally everyone spilling outside as the smell of pepper spray drifted over his back fence.
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he heard a deputy's radio, then arguing, coughing, crying and finally everyone spilling outside as the smell of pepper spray drifted over his back fence.

Sheeet...just a normal Saturday nite in the East Village.

..enhanced interrogation techniques?
No Special Prosecutor - Torture OK in the USA! Hooray!

So there was no disturbance in the neighborhood until the police showed up and disrupted everyone's evening and then arrested people for questioning their authority to disrupt everything.

Your taxpayer dollars in action.

I'm really tired of people being arrested for obstructing what amounts to unlawful police activity. There should be a huge penalty for these kinds of arrests when it is proven that the police were actually the ones who caused the problems.

Uh. What an utter moron. Beating up on old white people with enough juice and dough to send him to skid row in a half of a second? I mean these weren't ignint po' people. Welcome to THE World of hurt, Officer Dumbshit. 1300 block of Rubenstein Ave

Look. We all know Queers don't really have ALL the civil rights the ultra fab breeders do, but we have to treat them as though they were 100% human at work, social gatherings and political events. It's ok for them to be out and party in the genteel, straight manner.

/snark, for the snark impaired.

The trolls thank you for the disclaimer.

I'm not clear on one thing; I know SCOTUS has upheld that you have to ID yourself to the police, even if you're just the passenger in a car. But do you have to give them your AGE? What purpose does that serve? As long as you're obviously an adult, what good does asking your birthdate do, other than underscore your age? Do you not have ANY 5th Amendment rights, or is refusing to answer questins "obstruction of justice"? Counting on my lawyer friends.

Short answer. No.

Long answer...you can kiss Miranda goodbye in roughly, my guess, the next several years. It will be gone.

If your nervous and blow your birth date when asked for it verbally and it doesn't match your license it gives them more edge to get you to admit you did something wrong.

Ask you if you've been drinking . . etc.

They can then get you for simply "attempting to deceive the police".

Now...you may not have committed a crime prior to be stopped, but...oh geeez...now you have.

Funny how that works out.

Dont Talk to Police
A law school professor and former criminal defense attorney tells you why you should never agree to be interviewed by the police. 031408_DontTalktoPolice.wmv

ACLU:Know Your Rights: What to Do If You're Stopped by the Police
To fight police abuse effectively you need to know your rights. There are some things you should do, some things you must do and some things you cannot do. If you are in the middle of a police encounter, you need a handy and quick reference to remind you what your rights and obligations are.

..it was still legal to drink in a home. Does California have a Drinking while HOME policy?

... assuming they have the name of the homeowner, and a driver's license photo courtesy of the DMV, they probably KNOW who they're speaking to.

shouldn't the homophobe be arrested for making aa false police report?

to not be disturbed and "unwanted noise" is the basis for any noise complaint.

than usually the police say tough noogies.
At least they do down here.

Neighbors on three sides of the house said yesterday there wasn't much noise from the party. One man said he slept through it.

“We didn't hear anything until the sheriff came, with eight patrol cars and a helicopter,” said Natasha Cortina, 43, who said she and her two children were home with the windows open.

It wasn't noisy, obviously. And two, it sounds as though the Encinitas Popo D was noisier than the not-noisy party, and they are way overstaffed and overfunded, if they can respond to petty complaints with 8 cop cars and a chopper.

Might wanna make some budget cuts there, Encinitas.

The only disturbances in the neighborhood that night came from him shouting obscenities and the police showing up with eight cars, with sirens, and a helicopter.

in the early 70s and Reagans state storm troopers were acting in police state mode at the time.

There's a lawsuit here.
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Arrgh! Why don't these Christian piles of shit move to Iran where their hatred and bigotry are more in line with the Iranian government?

The religious HATE everything the United States stands for, they should pack up and leave for a theofascist State more to their liking.

n/t

It does.

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supporters could collect a couple of million dollar settlement from the San Diego County Sheriffs Department for their brutal, stupid, fuckwitted interference in legitimate political activity. And then donate it to the Busby campaign...

And malicious mischief charges should be filed against the neighbor, too.

and the people they "serve" will approve. If they're rough on gays, or kids, or blacks, it's because they know that's how the "people" want it.

I have always thought that every single, solitary person in the USofA should have the experience of being SERIOUSLY rousted as "perps" (guilty or not) by their local cops. All of it: the cursing, the shouting, the bullying, the rough handling, the abuse...

The lady should have recorded or filmed the verbal assault from her back fence and reported it to the police, requesting they send a unit to speak with the person so as to avoid a conflict or confrontation, and keep the peace. This turns the tables on the reporting turd and puts the focus on his actions instead of "the loud party". The fact that they came with 8 units shows they came ready to deal with what they were told was a loud unruly party, not to keep the peace, big difference in the mind-set of coppers responding. Had they done this the officers would be more easily able to spot just who or what the real problem was, maybe arresting the back fence idiot for disturbing the peace or challenging to fight( depends on his wording) or some other, what officers call ass-hole in public charge.CEO,citizens,eyes,open.

ps who is sheriff in SD now Duffy or R Kolinder?

wondered aloud why, if Busby is such a leader why didn't SHE just jump into the melee and start leading...

"...Yancey said...“The place got out of hand,”...“If Francine Busby was there, why not take a leadership role, step up, and nip this thing in the bud?”

Busby said she couldn't intervene because the deputy was using pepper spray on people indiscriminately."

Had she done so, would Spokesmodel Yancey have praised her for her efforts?

So was that question an official reflection of the candidate by the police, or Spokesmodel Yancey's own bias against Busby? Or do his employers give tacit approval to snot on about an attendee at an event who behaved?

Why was Spokesmodel Yancey suggesting she commit to an action frowned upon by the police (Interfering -- people were arrested for it) that is also dangerous for Ms Busby herself (pepper spray and brute force was used)?

Is injecting non positive bias about victims and witnesses during press conferences part of his spokesmodel job?

It's 415-393-0707 if any CA Dems are interested in calling her...

For the second time in a week I was advised "Senator Feinstein is OPEN to a public option!" which of course is a weasely way of saying she's going to do absolutely ZIP!

I asked why she and Harry Reid were not leading on this issue, as 75% of Americans and almost 90% of Dems WANT A PUBLIC OPTION! The lady who answered the phone got very irritated with me at this question. I also asked if she was putting any pressure on the SD Sheriff's office to investigate this matter, and I got an equally evasive answer!

This is Senator Feinstein's MO on every important issue I call her office on..."She's studying it...she's open to it". I'm so sick of her half-hearted support of the important issues for Americans that I could scream, but I keep calling her office, and try to be as polite as possible, which is hard at times.

Please call her office if you can and put some pressure on her regarding these issues and any other you would like to see her leadership on.

It's an oxymoronish world when you have "peace" officers who are quick to taser and pepper spray potential criminals.

union tribune reports a prior battery conviction for this same arrested party named Barman occurring in 1977 at san francisco airport?? food for thought. maybe she hasn't mellowed with age??

Link or shut up

Did they uncover a related string of criminal activity occurring between then or now? Or are they implying that since someone with her name was arrested 32 years ago when she was 20 something establishes a pattern of prior bad acts?

Maybe some ahole was hassling her, for whatever reason.

Just proves once again the sick, Right Wing-NutO party is made up of proud ignorant, uneducated bigots and haters.

I wonder if the "peace" officers was a mistake in transcription... My wife is a transcriptionist and saw this and thought it had to be a mistake... If not it's a pretty Orwellian term...

for the police and the loud-mouthed, bigoted neighbor.

The deputy should not have even responded until after 10 PM. Even then, they would certainly be able to hear any loud noises coming from the house just standing outside. Another option would have been to visit the man who complained and listen from his yard to see if any violations were occurring.

Barman obviously let the deputy in as the whole incident started INSIDE the house. The Deputy is alleging that people were behind him and he felt threatened. "We carry tazers, clubs...". I guess he actually believed someone was going to go for his belt and try to take him on. Or he could be full of utter BS. But cops don't like it when people who know their rights actually try to exercise them.

when a police officer is at your door is invite him in.....period!

This clip is 45minutes and everyone should watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqMjMPlXzdA

The ignorance and lack of respect for those who shoulder the tremendous responsibilities of enforcing the law and protecting citizens on a street level -- patrol cops, deputies, first responders, etc. -- as repeatedly spouted here simply astonishes the mind.

These same people who have managed to force this story into the media spotlight in the most over-the-top, breathless terms since this past Saturday (a piece in the San Diego Union-Tribune each day), are likely the first to condemn law enforcement for not being there when some felon knocks on the door in the middle of the night and jabs a Glock in their face when they're stupid enough to open it.

They're also likely the first to object to granting San Diego law enforcement the salaries so desperately needed to patrol our streets effectively.

One of the only truly pertinent and telling aspects of this story that's been made public thus far -- discounting most of the the suspiciously vast and purple accounts from those that were alledgedly "victimized" -- is that the host of the party refused a direct request from a badge. Further, she apparently through a hissy and felt it her right to simply ignore the officer's request, turn her back to him and walk away.

How is that any different than being pulled over by highway patrol and asked for your license, but you don't feel you need to give it so drive off? There will be consequences, and I can't fathom any intelligent adult in the country being so bereft of common sense that they'd believe there wouldn't be.

But this is America, afterall. Self-possessed simpletons are everywhere.

People. When a badge requests your cooperation, you give it. As to the issue about whether or not it's lawfully correct to request date of birth? 1) Yes. If a complaint has been formally made as in, apparently, this case, by the knob nut next door, paperwork-wise it is mandatory information. 2) So what? If you don't know what's lawfully required or not, don't be an ignoramus, jeopardize your own safety and the safety of others (who, incidentally, for some reason presumed they were justified to physically interfere). To challenge an officer under these circumstances is stupid, irresponsible and wreckless.

Couple this with an aspiring politician who clearly demonstrated no leadership prowess whatsoever (beyond now trying to exploit the situation for personal gain -- and I WAS a supporter of Francine Busby, btw), and it starts to smell a little fishy.

When the investigation is concluded and other side of the story -- the deputy side -- is reported, without all the dramatic hyperbole and seize-the-moment fundraising effort, I'll draw my own conclusion.

Anybody doing so at this point is naive or willfully ignorant.

you have a right to protect yourself, your property, and your guests, from illegal searches.
The owner of the house probably invited the officer in, after that things got out of hand.
Without a search warrant you have the right to turn the officer away, there was no crime being committed until the officer came through the door and created an unnecessary disturbance.

The ignorance and lack of respect for those who shoulder the tremendous responsibilities of enforcing the law and protecting citizens on a street level -- patrol cops, deputies, first responders, etc. -- as repeatedly spouted here simply astonishes the mind.

The ignorance of the law and the lack of respect given by some cops to civilians is mind boggling. I have no problem with officers doing their job properly. THe problem is most officers these days think the rules don't apply to them and in a lot of cases they don't even know the laws they are supposed to enforce.

These same people who have managed to force this story into the media spotlight in the most over-the-top, breathless terms since this past Saturday (a piece in the San Diego Union-Tribune each day), are likely the first to condemn law enforcement for not being there when some felon knocks on the door in the middle of the night and jabs a Glock in their face when they're stupid enough to open it.

This is but one of litterly tens of thousands of cases a year when a cop uses unreasonable force. IT's just as likely to be a real cop jamming the gun in your face considering the rediculous number of wrong houses they raid a year..

They're also likely the first to object to granting San Diego law enforcement the salaries so desperately needed to patrol our streets effectively.

Hi MR strawman how are you?

One of the only truly pertinent and telling aspects of this story that's been made public thus far -- discounting most of the the suspiciously vast and purple accounts from those that were alledgedly "victimized" -- is that the host of the party refused a direct request from a badge. Further, she apparently through a hissy and felt it her right to simply ignore the officer's request, turn her back to him and walk away.

Purple accounts? As far as I have read their neighbors were reporting the same thing as the "victims". A cop cannot give you a command or an order outside of what is defined by law. IN all likelihood there is NO law requiring you to give your birthdate to a cop. A lot of states don't even require you to give ID to an officer (outside of being a driver) but they still demand it and will arrest you for it (see MHD incident for example). You only "know" she threw a hissy because you're already convinced the cops are right and always will be right. There's no chance at all that an officer is a human and had a bad mood at that moment or anything like that..

How is that any different than being pulled over by highway patrol and asked for your license, but you don't feel you need to give it so drive off? There will be consequences, and I can't fathom any intelligent adult in the country being so bereft of common sense that they'd believe there wouldn't be.

Like I said earlier depending on where you live you wouldn't have to provide ID as a passenger but more then likely the cop will demand it. There are definitely laws on the book requiring you to have a license when operating a motor vehicle but there might not be a law requiring you to answer a date of birth question. I would love to know how she would "drive off" in her house? I mean seriously dude the cop already knew her full name and address which is more then enough to give a warning or even a ticket.

But this is America, afterall. Self-possessed simpletons are everywhere.

That's not very nice to say there are quite a few good cops out there..

People. When a badge requests your cooperation, you give it. As to the issue about whether or not it's lawfully correct to request date of birth? 1) Yes. If a complaint has been formally made as in, apparently, this case, by the knob nut next door, paperwork-wise it is mandatory information. 2) So what? If you don't know what's lawfully required or not, don't be an ignoramus, jeopardize your own safety and the safety of others (who, incidentally, for some reason presumed they were justified to physically interfere). To challenge an officer under these circumstances is stupid, irresponsible and wreckle

You can be a sheep if you want and bow down to authority without question but that's a thing they used to call tyranny in this country. 1. You don't know this as you're just assuming it is because the cop asked for it. 2. If it's not lawfully required then you're not required to give it which is your RIGHT as an american citizen. The cop is the one who decides to jeopardize your safety or the safety of others because you don't RESPECT HIS AUTHORITAAAY!!.. To "challenge" an officer as you call it is to live the fundamental truth of this country as enshrined in the constitution and the bill of rights. "The man who trades freedom for security does not deserve nor will he ever receive either." Benjamin Franklin..

Couple this with an aspiring politician who clearly demonstrated no leadership prowess whatsoever (beyond now trying to exploit the situation for personal gain -- and I WAS a supporter of Francine Busby, btw), and it starts to smell a little fishy.

Clearly demonstrated as you were clearly there watching this whole thing mmhmmm...

When the investigation is concluded and other side of the story -- the deputy side -- is reported, without all the dramatic hyperbole and seize-the-moment fundraising effort, I'll draw my own conclusion.

When the investigation is concluded the other side of the story will be the police protecting their own and the report will declare no wrong doing as has happened millions of times in the past. Just like the decision handed down the other week here in Chicago where a drunk off duty cop severely beat up a small girl bar tending at a bar (it was even caught on video and he was clearly in the wrong). I can seriously present to you a half dozen cases of cops being severely in the wrong and getting away with it and I wouldn't even have to go back past January.. The lack of any real check on police allows for the corruption to spread and be maintained.

Anybody doing so at this point is naive or willfully ignorant.

Look in the mirror as you've already drawn your conclusions...

Show me where I showed lack of respect for Police Officers?

*Upon further revue, I humbly withdraw my subject title....

Yes. Police LOVE it when civilians try to intervene. In fact, they arrest one guest for doing so. I guess they just wanted more face time with her. And they pepper sprayed a load of bystanders.

http://crooksandliars.com/comment/permalink/1...

Respect is EARNED, not granted automatically, unless you're some sort of an unthinking bot...

they respect the guns cops carry: the fatal monopoly of the State.

You make me sick. Everything this once Great Nation was founded on is going to hell. My forefathers fought and died on this land so that WE could live the life of Freedom and the American Way.

You are drunk with the Kool-Aid of willful ignorance. You are boot- licker and a coward that knows nothing but what MSM and TV-land tells you.

But not to worry. You are a majority in the Good 'Ol USA. I for one, will never be a boot-licker. I will defend the Constitution against terrorist slobs like you, so that my children and generations to come will enjoy what once was.

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he Sheriff’s Office dispatched the large force under the command of Deputy Marshall Abbott, who has been with the force for about two years and, as we’ll see, displays the perverse eagerness to escalate a confrontation that is a persistent trait among younger law enforcement personnel.

Abbott approached hostess Shari Barman to inquire about the complaint. No doubt thinking of the polite fellow who had hurled epithets at the gathering earlier, Barman replied with an epithet of her own.

Abbott asked Barman for her birth date. Puzzled by the question, Barman asked why that information was necessary, not understanding that under the martial law mind-set prevailing today, anything other than immediate, docile obedience to any directive issued by a goon in a government-issued costume is considered a crime.

Deputy Abbott “told me I was under arrest, grabbed my right arm, twisted it behind me and threw me on the ground,” Barman recalled later. When 55-year-old Jane Stratton urged Abbott to take care because the 60-year-old woman had recently had shoulder surgery, the heroic deputy “knocked her to the ground,” continues Barman.

Abbott also displayed his martial prowess by attacking several other guests with pepper spray. Sure, it was unnecessary, but that’s just the way Deputy Marshall Abbott rolls, man. Just deal with it.

“He was pepper-spraying the faces of anyone who tried to talk to him,” Busby recalled. “People were stunned. It was something that none of us has experienced.”

Sgt. Thomas “Chuck” Yancey justified Abbott’s attack, telling the San Diego Union-Tribune that the deputy was alarmed to find himself surrounded by a throng of outraged, middle-aged Democrats, most of them female.

“We don’t like people standing behind us – we have Tasers, guns, clubs,” Yancey said.

Think of that for a minute: These guys are heavily armed and, supposedly, highly trained, and yet will feel intimidated if a few unarmed middle-aged people are standing behind them.

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Cop jock-sniffers like you oughta shampoo my crotch.

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