Byron York Says Obama Isn't Really As Popular As He Appears; It's Just Because Blacks Like Him
By Nicole Belle Thursday Apr 30, 2009 8:30am
On his 100th day in office, Barack Obama enjoys high job approval ratings, no matter what poll you consult. But if a new survey by the New York Times is accurate, the president and some of his policies are significantly less popular with white Americans than with black Americans, and his sky-high ratings among African-Americans make some of his positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are.
So you African-Americans? According to Byron York, you don't actually count. My buddy and former C&L contributer Steve Benen:
For crying out loud, what the hell does that mean, exactly? I read the rest of the piece, hoping to see York explain why the president's seemingly popular positions are exaggerated or inflated. Why, in other words, these positions "appear" more popular "than they actually are."
But all the piece tells me is that African Americans tend to support Obama in greater numbers than white Americans.
The problem, of course, is that damn phrase "than they actually are." York argues that we can see polls gauging public opinion, but if we want to really understand the popularity of the president's positions, and not be fooled by "appearances," then we have to exclude black people.
There's really no other credible way to read this. York effectively argues that black people shouldn't count. We can look at polls measuring the attitudes of Americans, but if we want to see the truth -- appreciate the numbers as "they actually are" -- then it's best if we focus our attention on white people, and only white people.
I swear the next thing York will suggest is calling for polling companies to consider African-Americans as only 3/5th a person to more accurately reflect reality. I'm sure you can find the historical precedence for it if you try really hard.
You stay classy, Byron.
Dave N: This is actually a not-uncommon species of eliminationist rhetoric, since these kinds of discussions are essentially exercises in imagining the world with a whole class of people effectively excised.
As Adam Serwer observes: "This is another example of a really bizarre genre of conservative writing, which I call 'If Only Those People Weren't Here.'"
He continues:
It reminds me somewhat of the absence of black people in most non-dystopian science fiction, except the subtextual desire in York's column is far more deliberate: If black people weren't able to vote, Republicans would win more elections. And Ann Coulter, at the very least, has had the chutzpah to say directly what she's really thinking: "If we took away women's right to vote, we'd never have to worry about another Democrat president."
And it's not just right-wing ideologues who indulge this sort of brain-dead analysis -- the mainstream media do it too.
One of the real classics of this genre was Bill Schneider's report for CNN's "Inside Politics" on April 25, 2002:
WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, CNN SR. POLITICAL ANALYST: Judy, how dependent are Democrats on the African-American vote?
Without black voters, the 1992 and 1996 presidential elections would have been virtually tied, just like the 2000 election. Oh no, more Florida recounts!
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
(voice-over): What would have happened if no blacks had voted in 2000? Six states would have shifted from Al Gore to George W. Bush: Maryland, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin and Oregon. Bush would have won by 187 electoral votes, instead of five. A Florida recount? Not necessary.
Right now, there are 50 Democrats in the Senate. How many would be there without African-American voters? We checked the state exit polls for the 1996, 1998, and 2000 elections. If no blacks had voted, many Southern Democrats would not have made it to the Senate. Both Max Cleland and Zell Miller needed black votes to win in Georgia. So did Mary Landrieu in Louisiana, Bill Nelson in Florida, John Edwards in North Carolina, and Ernest Hollings in South Carolina.
Black votes were also crucial for Jon Corzine in New Jersey, Debbie Stabenow in Michigan, and Jean Carnahan in Missouri. Washington state and Nevada don't have many black voters, but they were still crucial to the victories of Harry Reid in Nevada and Maria Cantwell in Washington.
Nebraska and Wisconsin don't have many black voters either, but Ben Nelson would have lost Nebraska without them and Russ Feingold would have lost Wisconsin, too, in both cases by less than half-a- percent. Bottom line? Without the African-American vote, the number of Democrats in the Senate would be reduced from 50 to 37.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
SCHNEIDER: A hopeless minority. And Jim Jeffords' defection from the GOP would not have meant a thing -- Judy.
WOODRUFF: We know the Democrats are aware of this. Bill Schneider, thanks very much.
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Its amazing, you just can't make this crap up... oh wait... thats what they are doing.
Yep! Debbie Stabenow won in Michigan 58% to 39%. What a complete fucking moron!
If they stop polling darkies, chicks, heathens and queers they'll find the GOP is loved and Obama is... well, sorta still liked.
you are an IDIOT!
That one flew right over your head, didn't it?
Read it again. Satire.
Is he proposing the return of the 3/5 compromise?
Rush would be all over that one! Across the land you'd hear a chorus of "Ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto, ditto..." with a triumphant percussion of arm fat slapping up and down in elated joy.
not a good sign, this report. seems like a proposal for some kind of Final Solution. Apparently, if they don't exist, they don't have to be counted.
I can only say 3/5 of that word."
Stokely Carmichael, Speech at the University of Houston circa 1967.
Nuh-uh. That's how many people view him favorably. People, period, like Obama. He IS as popular as he appears, including with me, and I'm white.
... well, except for red cheeks. OK, the actual overall average color is sort of ecru, but I'm an 8th generation American whose great-great-great paternal grandfather owned slaves, and whose maternal grandfather actually belonged to the KKK (involuntary shudders of shame). And I love Obama. And so do all my white friends.
I missed the live news conference last night but watched the video of it on MSNBC, and, as others have commented all over the country, I found myself delightedly absorbed in listening to his thoughts and reactions to questions, and like so many others I was so happy to finally have an intelligent person for President, a thoughtful person who reads and studies and with whom people can disagree and still get a thoughtful response.
I never heard of Byron York; I think he's just jealous. And what's with that hair? Not to get too ad hominem here, but that hairstyle looks almost exactly like my mother's from about 1957.
Paternal grandfather used a paper name to enter the country; maternal grandfather played by the rules, never got in. (My maternal grandmother was U.S. citizen by birth, returned to China briefly, came back to U.S. while pregnant, in hopes that a son would be born and, thus, legal grounds for father to enter country ... instead, my mother was born. Grandad was later killed in an uprising in China, I never knew him.)
Our family is now five generations, and includes Chinese, Caucasians, Hispanics, and African-Americans.
I thought my blood-lines were mixed
What with Scottish, Welsh and English blood.
;-) You must have some fantastic internal conflicts!
Yes, quite.
English, Irish and a bit-o-German. Is that enough for a world war?
My father was of Choctaw, Cherokee, Chickasaw, Scottish, Irish, Welsh, English descent. Based on what I know about the American newbies in his family, the newbiest of his ancestors arrived in the 18th century. Sadly, some of them owned slaves.
My mother is of Texican/Tejano and Apache descent. Her ancestor Lorenzo Trevino was among those who became Americans with the admission of Texas to the Union. He later was a Confederate captain, and then the first Hispanic sheriff of his county during Reconstruction...
What all this amounts to is I wholeheartedy voted for Obama and York is a racist idiot. It's amazing how stupid, and how archaic he looks!
African Americans who dragged down Bush & Cheney's ratings, too.
cannot account for the 69% approval rating. that still leaves 59% if 100% of blacks give a favorable rating.
WTF is this assKKKlown referring to for the remainder of the popularity numbers?
Being Black (well, mostly, as I am an American and therefor mixed) I wondered how a minority can suddenly become the majority.
But then I remembered that no one counts if they don't vote Republican. Only real Americans vote Republican.
that's giving us all this brilliant advise like,
- Lather up and rub not just your fingers and palms but also under the fingernails, around the wrists and between the fingers for as long as it takes to sing "Happy Birthday" twice to prevent the Flu.
It's good advice for avoiding lots of things, including the flu.
Unfortunately, it apparently does not assist in the production of useful brain cells.
It's not just African-Americans who don't count for him -- white Americans don't either.
The American People -- black, white, brown and beige -- love President Obama, and fascist trash like York just can't stand it.
to some.
We are a Christian nation and Jesus was white... so it only makes sense. I'm sure God is white too. Only liberal heathen Hollywood could ever conjure up such heresy as a black God. Eeewwww!!!!
Damn that Morgan Freeman!!!!
"...I'm sure God is white too."
She is...?! OMG!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1yu-HGSSLk
..Say G'night Gracie!
G'night Gracie!
African-Americans supported Abraham Lincoln, too, because he was black!
so Obama is apparently the fifth black president.
who knew?
that the rethugs could not get beyond udder stupid, they prove you wrong.
Unbelievable.
thinks it's ok to print the likes of KKKristol, Friedman and other hateful liars.
I'm sure they have no idea why circulation is dropping.
they don't seem to recognize stupidity before they commit it to paper.
Maybe if they quit printing homophobic, racist, biogoted, un-scientific screeds, readers wouldn't be abandoning them in droves. It's certainly why I no longer read it. They are just like the Republicans: They ignore all evidence to the contrary and decide over and over that the path back to success is by becoming more wingnutty. Even if a reader tells them that is the reason they quit reading, they take it as some kind of plot to undermine them. By constantly formulating devious ways to deceive their readers and constituents, they imagine that everybody's' motives are similarly underhanded. Maybe Republicans and the traditional media are making the same mistakes because they have the same group of people making the decisions. Pretty compelling if you ask me.
Yesterday is was Rep Fox smearing Matthew Shepard. What next? Hispanics are sub-human? Women belong in the kitchen squirting out children? Gays should be arrested and locked away?
Oh, wait... That is their platform.
hispanics are responsible for the thirty-year-old swine flu.
in its teens.
the asians are responsible for the Avian flu. it just didn't turn into the pandemic rumsfeld hoped for. so we just re-boot the rhetoric machine and load up another alien lifeform to blame for another disease.
:{{{=
Didn't bird flu come from birds? Are pigs aliens?
[edit: looks like a joke.]
FDR had heavy black support.
not so favorably disposed.
6th black president?
There would be no Republican Party, anymore.
a limit to how smart a person can be, but stupidity is limitless! I think that would be a great campaign slogan for Michelle Bachman, "Stupidity is Limitless"! I live in her district, I think I will put that on a home-made campaign sign for her and put it up in my yard!
i must be feeling kinda black if i like obama this much when i'm white?? as far as i known i'm white but maybe now i'm counted black if i like obama.. hhmmm
next thing you know we'll be talking like Michael Steele
I may be white, but I hate rap.
He listens to Lawrence Welk...and The Velvet Fog!
HA!
This opposition at FAUX "News" and represented among the teabag crowd is about Obama not being white. It has zero to do with his actual policies. We need a conversation about racism in this country and instead, it is just more overt but even more strongly denied. The Republicans are a party of intolerance and bigotry. I thought that had been determined already.
would hate Obama just as much if he were white, or any other color. They hate & fear him because he's a Democrat, but use his race to attack him, to generate even more fear/hatred in their cracker-fan-base.
idiot's thinking I guess we have to throw out all the white people when e have a poll on white politicians.
..and there's nothing I need to add to it except does this guy still have a job? What an idiot; it takes an idiot to say something like that in this day and age.
Hey Byron, we need people like you commenting on life in America like we need the KKK governing the country. Idiot!
Is Demographics. While he cites Demographics to make his point, he ignores the fact that all reputable polling organizations take Demographics into account. If black people represent 12 percent of the population, then 12 percent of the people asked to respond to the poll should be 12 percent of the overall sample and since black people ARE people, this exposes this man's comment for what it is: Racist and bigoted.
You see, black people really, reeeealy like Obama and that's what skews the data.
It's a failing of mine but one I can live with.
to skew the poll? I guess it didn't take too many for the times to commit it to print. unphucKKKingbelievable!!!!!!!!
Soooooooooo...does that mean the polling should be halved to be fair? Why are people so intent upon using labels in this country? It defies the imagination.
This guy is a freaking moron. Byron York, what is your heritage?
I'm a mixture of German, Danish, French, Irish, Welsh and Brazilian.
Oh and I'm a woman.
Can we break it down that way?
not halved, 3/5th's
Obama is black. it's the 1/8th rule as applied in the state of georgia. (or for the rest of us, the state of insanity).
so our black-white/muslim-christian/democratic-socialist-communist-fascist dictator, er president. cannot possibly be popular. despite any facts to the contrary, rush must be right.
I have to go and ice myself now to cool down.
who said "Wagner's music is much better than it sounds".
That column is actually much less racist and idiotic than it reads, if you just discount all of the extreme right wing Republican morons involved in writing it, then there's no column at all! And no racist comments.
It's easy if you just think like them.
They think that everybody thinks exactly like them. The Conservative mindset: Everybody has the same motives and everybody has to fit into a neat, little box that is well definied and described. No room for anything but black and white in the conservative world.
Don't you mean "white and whiter"?
since they are vile and vulgar, they think everyone else is too.
They should only look in the mirror when talking.
What about (gri)malkin?
i think he has a point. after all, Obama only won the election because more people voted for him. McCain voters didnt so how valid is his popularity really?
Half-right, primarily it was electors in the Electoral college.
We vote for electors, and electors vote for the candidate.
Until the election reforms of 1973, they could cut deals in smoky back rooms and change their support before the electoral vote.
Joan of Argghh!
Apr 29, 2009
It's a vile example, but I'm afraid Jack is pretty much spot-on. The monolith of the black voter must be corralled and controlled at any cost. Racism is over except in the imaginations of the Media and the Politicians (but I repeat myself). The rest of us could care less about the color of someone's skin. Too bad that makes for an equitable world-view that is unserviceable for political gain.
There are a lot of nutbags runnig around.
Bob Novak used to write this kind of crap all the time. If not for those pesky black voters, the outcome might be very different.
WHEN ARE THESE BASTARDS GOING TO UNDERSTAND IT'S "DEMOCRATIC", NOT "DEMOCRAT"? And no media person EVER calls them on it. I think we should all bombard the TV stations every time a Rethuglican says that until the pundits get the message.
I know! Shocking isn't it?
I know! Shocking isn't it?
you can say that again
Weird
...he was kinda weasely about it. You had to be listening really hard!
I never watch Tweety, I saw that piece right here on Crooks and Liars. :)
keep the floor for too long. he always does.
But York has a valid point if carried to the extreme. If you take out the part of Obama that is black, he is actually not even there!
actually Obama, i believe, is 60% white. a key point in Republican rationalization of his presidency
So, Bush was not as popular as one may think. It's just that the white people liked him? WTF?
ahem...not ALL white people.
Here's one honkey who HATES teh boosh.
here's another who hates Bu$h...
For what it's worth, whites are a minority from a global world view... and really what the hell difference does it make? A lot of people (never mind any color associated with it) like Obama, me for one!
Being a Texan I've hated him longer than most of y'all've been aware of him.
at Galveston County Park when I was 11, I've hated him far longer than any of you. Seriously, the thing that went through my 11 year old brain was "creepy with a clammy handshake".
..pull his finger?
The smirk was already firmly in place.
There's a King of the Hill episode about that!!
Hank won't vote for Al Gore but after meeting bush and shaking his hand, can't bring himself to vote for him.
Classic King of the Hill
Also, in polling among people with without penis's, York noted Obama's poll numbers also appear to be artificially inflated. According to Yorke, this polling among penis-less Americans also demonstrates a deviation from what polls are "supposed" to indicate, which York makes clear is "whatever white males prefer".
York continues "I think it's clear that when you exclude all African-Americans, all penis-less Americans, all Hispanic Americans, most Jewish Americans, all Arab Americans, all Buddhist Americans, most Asian Americans, people from big cities, gay Americans, American in unions, people who make less than 10 million a year, and people who don't go to NASCAR races, that in fact this President is not that popular. York, well-known to be a conservative did admit, "though still excluding all these groups Obama is still wildly more popular that Bush."
Just need to be a white, rich, rethug pig to have any meaning of life.
nailed it!
...for the President in Prague, I knew then that black people have spiked Obama's numbers.
were especially gratifying to see.
you've got me laughing out loud at the office... glad I wasn't drinking any coffee!
Oh, how I long to live in a world where someone would quickly reach out and smack these asshats every time they something this stupid.
Politicians let me know when you discover it.
Mars...
;p
to the day when it's an option.
I think being able to call myself a Martian would be pretty cool.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWi938cu3V8&fe...
..Rep. Foxx
Till that day comes we'll have to rely on teh internet & teh google! It is a pretty good substitute for a huge finger coming out of the sky to squish or at least brush away the Cry'n Yorks of the world.
What a gay name! I like it.
My name is Bruce too.
So's his:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mzaTSGBN4U&fe...
We should see this type of memo show up weekly until the end of the gop. They can't communicate with any of the fringe elements that may have voted for them in the past. They have to reduce the electorate because having 25% just isn't enough to win an election unless it is a district election, or it is the oxygen deprived areas in the south.
at a Tea Party rally in Michigan. They are morphing into something else now.
a pack of ignorant racists trying to get by using coded language.
... first Obama wasn't black enough, now he's TOO black?
I think Byron's problem is that he doesn't understand why America isn't enamored of the racist spewage coming from the likes of Limbaugh, Beck, Malkin, and Coulter, nor the ideological lockstep being preached by Messrs. Boehner and McConnell.
He just looks like this guy
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=&s...
With an oprah make-over.
at CNN Headline News when he was a Producer. He was a putz back then and I can see he hasn't changed. And what's up with that hair? The only thing different is now he's being paid to be an a**hole!
but that's only because i wish i was black.
I think Lou (no relation, I assume) would be upset.
I believe his point is how did Obama fool only half of the white folks into thinking he is white (his father was black) but he was able to fool all the black folks into thinking he is black (his mother was white).
I believe more accurate polling data to see how popular Obama is should come from people with bi-racial parents.
don't be ascared now, asshat...but...whites are fast becoming a minority in this country.
You're running out of places to hide. Apartheid was ended in South Africa.
Oh...and styling your hair like James Brown is not gonna save you.
Let me just say how very much I like Barack Hussein Obama. I am so f***ing relieved that this flu outbreak is being handled by the Obama administration rather than by the useless Bushies.
"Don't eat pork."
And trying to order all the pigs in the country slaughtered.
How a McCain/Palin administration would be dealing with these issues?
We'd be up the proverbial creek..
The would cut taxes and loosen regulations and possibly bomb Iran. Those 3 things are the answer to pretty much everything. I remember well the day Bush tax cuts went in to effect people on their deathbeds all over the country rose up and were instantly cured.
The polls are being skewed because they count minorities and whites who aren't wealthy. When you remove those inconsequential groups from the tally, you'll see that Obama is only moderately popular.
I can't quite figure out what he's trying to say actually. Is it that black people don't count? Or is it that they just like Obama because he's black so their opinion about him doesn't count? Following that logic I guess Ronald Reagan wasn't really popular because most of his support was among white people.
york said that "some of [president obama's] positions appear a bit more popular overall than they actually are" . . . his assumption, i suspect, is that black americans support obama because of his skin color, not his policies . . . it's the same sort of thinking went into the selection of michael steele as head of the rnc
we should acknowledge this distinction so that we can address the true nature of this man's ignorance . . . it's not so much that york thinks black americans don't count, but that they are more interested in a candidate's skin color than his/her policies . . . . however, someone should remind york that black americans overwhelmingly supported bill clinton, a white politician, and not alan keyes . . . that had everything to do with clinton's policies
when republicans start supporting policies that address the interests of black americans, then they, too, will receive the support of black voters, regardless of their skin color
I agree. I think that's just what he's getting at. It's been an undercurrent for the right ever since he became a viable candidate. The problem is that blacks always support Dems because Democratic policies are better for them. Unlike many whites they aren't easily fooled in to voting for someone out of fear or because of some trivial matter. If white people followed the example of voting for their own self interest maybe this country wouldn't be completely under the thumb of big business.
his
sky-highlow ratings amongAfricanwhite Americans make some of his positions appear a bitmoreless popular overall than they actually are.A lot of African-Americans got wind of the watermelons being grown at the Whitehouse before they began backing Obama.
snark/
Byron York's low ratings among people who are not members of NAMBLA make him appear to be less popular than he really is.
Everyone is struggling with understanding what Byron is trying to say, because even HE doesn't know what he's trying to say.
Actually, he does, but he can't be openly racist, so he's trying to conceal his intent with made up stats, half assed observations and just plain bald faced asshattery.
The whole right wing of the spectrum is in total meltdown. The world that they occupied no longer exists (if it ever did).
By using fear, they kept the general public in a semi terrified state, where they would then alter their views and vote against their own self interest out of a desire for "safety".
The GOP is no longer able to form a coherent public opinion and make it stick. There are a myriad of reasons why, and most have been discussed here at C&L.
It is not the GOP that is imploding, it is the extreme right wing and corporatist enablers that are imploding.
"If you ignore all the warm days, it is pretty clear that the data fail to reveal evidence of warming."
that the only reason anyone voted for Obama is because he is Black. They can't imagine any other reason than what they term "racism".
So they offer us their Black politicians, like the clown Steele, and the crazy Alan Keyes. And cannot understand why we don't vote for them!
most of the GOP locksteppers voted for McCain because he was white, and Palin because she gas a gosh dolly Christian don't cha know?
Clearly most of that voting block did not care that much about the qualifications of either of those two candidates. Other than aforementioned characteristics. And thus, most GOPers assume Obama voters behaved in a similar fashion.
Small tidbits of reality are clearly ignored, like for example the fact that African Americans make less than 15% of the population, thus completely trashing any validity to this jackass's feeble argument may even have remotely had.
But that is the whole point of the GOP and reality: when facts dont back your interests or perception, simply make up your own. Voila!
The President is a black man? Well hell, I have to rethink everything now. Okay, I have rethought everything and I still think he's great!
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that the point Byron is making is that some of the support for Obama from African Americans is because he's "one of them", and not due to his policies. That argument might be valid if we were talking about Clarence Thomas instead of Barack Obama, but African-Americans have strongly supported the Democratic party for years now; the fact that they would support Obama as well is hardly surprising at all. Now, chances are good that there is some small number of black people who don't entirely like what Obama is doing, but support him anyway because of his race. However, that's going to be a small effect, easily cancelled out by the white racists who express dissatisfaction with Obama in spite of his policies.
So my guess: York doesn't necessarily believe that black people don't count, but he does think they're mindless drones obsessed with race, and that's really not much better.
(which I don't read much), why would Serwer automatically assume the characters are all white? In the few novels and short stories of the genre I have read, I don't recall skin color even being mentioned. Of course I can imagine scenarios where it would come up, but the reference still seems like a cheap shot.
Serwer is very young; I don't think he's a long-time SF fan. And he might not even be talking about written SF.
Many of us moderate Republicans truly like Pres. Barack Obama & know that without our votes he could not have won, simply because the White voting percentage far exceeds the combined percentage of any other ethnic/racial group of voters. This may change in 50 years, but maybe not. Maybe not because our country & our middle class has been hijacked by the two elements that have been crushing us in the Middle(D,R,& Indep.)from the top & bottom for decades now. FIRST, are the nouveau-Royalists in possession of zillions they literally stole from US by owning Congress & writing the "laws" "governing" Banking, Health Insurance & Pharmaceutical Manufacturers, & Chambers of Commerce companies galore.They ALWAYS pass the costs down to the weakening backbone of the USA:the average middle-class; & it is happening still in theft-levels of dreadful sums caused by the deliberate acts & omisssions of Congress,Treasury,White House,& lifetime govt.bureaucrats- appointed or employed. SECOND,"poverty level" residents have pushed us into a cramped,bleeding, paste between the Royalist & them with their special interest groups, lobbyists, political payoffs, & chamber of commerce influences designed to bring them here & keep them here for cheap labor in the private sector.Of course,most of them here are either not employed at low-paying jobs or any jobs but for drug dealing & burden our medical, education, crime-fighting & other social services meant solely for CITIZENS who have paid their dues in taxes,contributions to their communities & sacrifice in wars that were NOT in "our interests."
Janet Napolitano,SECRETARY OF "HOMELAND" SECURITY (THAT MEANS "HOMELAND") did nothing to stop the lawless influx of foreign nationals pouring across our SW sovereign borders until late in
her ambitious political plans .In her Governor's game, her advisors told her she would lose election to a school board if she did not make a "Useful Public Statement" for bringing guards to the border. She was Governor of AZ, Atty. General of AZ, US ATTorney in AZ & looked the other way as the nation became over-run with criminals from South of the Border who used the 'cheap laborers' routes.She holds lunatic leftist fringe philosophies,is in full support of keeping these lawbreakers here & giving them working papers that will lead quickly to citizenship to those who are in our country in violation of our laws which have been deliberately ignored by the wing-nut Right Fringe & the Lunatic left Fringe(when these two well-funded, but dreadfully extremist fringe elements meet at the 360 degree point,we can be certain that destruction of what remains of the working Middle Class will occur.) Moderate, middle class is not in control of their country but have been exploited by crafty worded promises & legal-language dodges also in promises. ( Even now, buisness for the Central Americas trumps quarantine long overdue, but dodged by knowing, crafty, evasive wording to convince us that closing the borders would not lessen the spread of this killer virus. Wrong. Just do the Math: 65 Thousand people cross daily into San Diego from one border crossing & the politics police lie to us. The virus is already here & worst in New York, so too late to close borders. HUH? 65 thousand reasons to close one border! Surely,this number will spread to people not hit by it who might not be hit by it but for exposure to the border crossers. It is not magic thinking. It is not Racism (& don't let them try this in the Left-wing Media..Right Wing media is also guilty for chamber of commerce support).
When the Media Pundits continually ask why there is such a disparity between number of voters/non-voters who truly like Pres Obama & the number who violently oppose his spending priorities,the Media spins edited facts, refuse to say why & tell the truth or name the thieves such as Boards of Directors of AIG -political big-wig names. Those in the Liberal Media (Right-wing Media does same for their extremist agendas,too) are in league with Politicians who have leaned on them to censor news-facts & keep the Dirty Unwashed Masses (us) from phoning,picketing, threatening a French Revolution with Guillotines.
They are protecting us from ourselves, like the news & thought police in George Orwell's '1984' & 'Brave New World." Read them again or for the first time & know this is where we have been to an extent & where we are headed more quickly.
The corrupt,selective waste & abuse of Government money (No such thing as "Government money")..is what is riling up the watchful middle class & what is quickly going to bring our truly likeable-once briefly & truly trusted -President down to George Bush's 2006-09 support levels because of it:( EG. Billions in Workfare & continued health insurance welfare for semi-skilled UAW workers who have been building the same cars as those sitting by hundreds of thousands in GM,Chrysler,Ford lots;while the average working people are not-UAW,AFT,AFSCME,SESU union members,& are out of health insurance & almost out of unemployment checks, & losing or lost their homes bought long before the government & corporate thieves created the mortage illusions. This one spending binge has covered banks, union-covered employees & local governments their cronies & employees-an UNCONSTITUTIONAL special class carved from among the middle class for preferred treatment in distribution of our collective money..earned & not yet earned but owed by US). Everyone has to lower their standards of living..not just the ones who are not marching on Congress with Pitchforks & should be)
The Grievance these Middle Class People are Protesting on the Internet & by picketing, messages to the White House & Congress is covered by one sentence::: "IT'S THE CORRUPTION,STUPIDS!"
Xanax yet?
whenever someone comes up with a post that is not easy for you to refute, you resort to insults, usually regarding their need for prescription medication, their sexual preference or just call them racist?
It's that it's not easy to read. Paragraphs are your friend.
The style of that post is the cyber-equivalent of the guy in the park ranting to no one in particular. Hence, the Xanax reference.
If it had something to do with the original post, that would be one thing, but it's patently clear just trying to pick through that endless bunch of run-on sentences that there is no actual dialog sought.
and I'm still white. So why do I like Obama? And according to this nutjob's logic, the only reason Reagan was popular was because he was white. Nothing to do with his psychological games with reality, he was such a good magician, said one thing, did another. But he made us feel "so good". I still hate him as much as I did then. But I'm still white.
it wasn't skin color; it was the hair. He could pick up FM with that helmet!
Just one more "voice of an idiot" expressing himself as though he has something worthwhile to say.
I can't seem to figure out why some of these goons....mostly from the right....are on the national media circuit. They obviously talk as much nonsense as any right wing nut case I personally know, but they lack having anything worthwhile to share as in insight....only their narrow perspective demonstrating their own twisted logic.
God, people get paid money for this??
You right-wing simpleton...I'm not African-American and I voted for Obama. He's doing his best to clean up the mess the Bush Administration and the republican obstructionist left behind.
I'm impressed. Really, I'm seriously impressed. I didn't think it was possible to be that big an asshole.
So, Byron, here's a chorus for you, straight from my man Denis Leary:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=...
You're not insightful, Byron; you're just an asshole. Congratulations!
Looks too much like Benny Hill in that photo.
I miss Benny Hill. I learned so much about the world from his comedy and can count him as a big source of my wit and flirtatious charm. To think that this York guy represents people who want to throw down more cumbersome social rules is even more of a piss off.
To quote http://thinkbomb.net/sexpolitics/BennyHill.htm :
**In Benny Hill’s world, men and women chase each other with slapstick abandon, mock outrage and mock fear. In the new sexual world order these activities are taken very seriously as negative stereotypes.
The below text from a BBC comedy guide on Benny Hill:
" "His British TV ratings slipped badly in the 1980s when not only did he suddenly crank up the bawdiness of the show but did so at a time when his particular strain of humour - lots of slap and tickle with sexy bimbettes, and treatment of women as brainless sexual objects - coincided with rising feminism and the advent of 'alternative' young comics determined to do away with sexism and the ancient 'mother-in-law' style of jokes."
bbc.co.uk/comedy/guide
The above review is quite incorrect. Benny Hill did not represent women as brainless. He depicted women as sometimes conniving or cunning, while making fun of his own foolishness. Or he portrayed women as equally bawdy as men. But the review highlights that our legacy understanding of Benny Hill remains distorted.
Benny Hill is now an archaic and mostly forgotten comedian. However, his sketches are occasionally replayed on commercial television. It is important to consider his legacy and the fact that modern generations are no longer subject to the humour, as well as sexual lessons that his comedy contained. Modern life is beholden to new rules of sexual propriety (although also new liberties). Our experience of sex is in many respects puritan and inhibited, repressive and restrained, loaded with fear of saying the wrong thing, doing the wrong thing, and indeed thinking the wrong thing. It is in this vortex that comedy once plumbed the depths… in the shape of Benny Hill.
"Good evening everybloody"**
It's plainly obvious that Reslug morons like the bug eyed Byron, have always been so damn jealous of any good looking Man that still doesn't wet their beds.
...if you take into account the fact that to the RNC, black people don't count as people.
If we take out all of the whites who make up the 21% who still identify themselves as republicans we could get a true look at just how popular the republican party is - 0%.
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