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Maybe we need to offer a course for the 24 hour News Channel talking heads in remedial journalism. Certainly, some refresher classes in very basic skills like oh....listening...are needed. My first candidate is Mr. "Hardball" himself, Chris Matthews. Matthews admits that he is so busy doing whatever it is he does to actually listen to his guests. It took a friend watching the show to tell Matthews after the fact that Frank Gaffney derailed his segment right into Neocon Crazytown without Matthews even noticing.

MATTHEWS: I—some time—as you know, sitting in this desk, this side of the desk, Joe and Pat—you have tried to do this—we have all tried to do this—we try to catch everything that goes past us, so we can act in real time.

Sometimes, people say things on this show so fast, that they come out of left field or right field, and I don‘t even hear them. But a friend of mine called me up and said, pay attention to what Frank Gaffney said on your show on Thursday, and we went back and looked at the tape.

You know, if this was an isolated incident with Matthews, that would be one thing, but the irony was that Gaffney was asked on to discuss another Neocon lie by Ari Fleischer that Matthews missed the day before. Excusing his own culpability in not being bothered to listen to what's being said on his program and how that misinforms the public, Matthews is just shocked...shocked, I tell you...that Gaffney would offer up such an egregious lie:

MATTHEWS: These people, they use anthrax. They will use—“The Weekly Standard” has reams of arguments why we should go to war. They won‘t quit, Pat. It is funny, but it‘s horrible. [..]

They would use any case to get us into a war with Iraq, and they did. And they won. They got us in. [..] What about the charge [..] that Saddam Hussein should have been fought, we had to go to war in Iraq because he bombed Oklahoma City? That is so close to fringe argument, Laurie Mylroie stuff, nutcase stuff, I should say.[..]

Gaffney was—was reaching... Because he is a good guy, but he was reaching for the crazy stuff.

TRIPPI: They have been reaching since the beginning. That‘s the whole...(CROSSTALK)

MATTHEWS: Oh, OK. I don‘t know where they—where they drink this stuff.

If you don't know, Chris, it's because you really haven't been listening these last eight years. Wake up, dude. The whole meme of "Saddam is a threat to us" originated from fringe cases like Laurie Mylroie, Ahmad Chalabi, and "Curveball" from the beginning. Here's the problem, Chris: YOU LET THEM. You--and all these other derelict talking heads (because I will not call any of you a journalist)--let them come on your program and lie. And because you weren't listening, they knew they could do it with impunity, because there would be no follow up questions, no context, no verification and no obstacles. You want to know why so many people still believe that Saddam had something to do with 9/11? Look in the mirror.

Oh, and one more thing: Your comment that Gaffney is a good guy? No, he's not. He may be perfectly pleasant at your Beltway cocktail parties, but Chris, he is a LIAR. No, even more, he is an lying, treasonous, unapologetic warmonger with the blood on his hands of an unbelievable number of people--who posed no threat to us. That is not a good guy. For once in your life, play hardball and call someone out for their lies instead of laughing about them with others. Maybe Gaffney will refuse to come on Hardball again for such treatment, but you know what? That would be a benefit to America.

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Chris, he is a LIAR. No, even more, he is an lying, treasonous, unapologetic warmonger with the blood on his hands of an unbelievable number of people

Methinks Tweety just doesn't get it.

" to describe Tweety to a T. It's all about getting the comment or question corporate talking point out. Tweety really doesn't care what the guest says. It's about the corporate framing, and to a lesser extent, Tweety being in the spotlight.

I would say to a large extent.
Mathews loves listening to himself talk.
He constantly interrupts his guests and talks over them while asking long involved questions --crafted to showcase his own inflated sense of himself--without really caring what the answer is.
In other words,he's a typical mainstream media news personality.

True that.

he's too busy thinking about what he's going to say next.

He misses the point so much.

Let's talk about the issues. The AIG bailout, for example.

Just goes to prove the fact that the media simply serves as a DISTRACTION from the real issues. Giving the lying liars airtime to spout their lies is a DISTRACTION I tells ya!

I mean come on, Dick friggin' Cheney????

Exactly right. Who is booking the guests onto the show and for what purpose. Don't give me pyrotechnics. If the guest can't or won't add information and insight to a story, then they have no business being on the boob tube catapulting propaganda.

is contained in your post. It's called the boob tube for a good reason. And all bloviating shows for the boobs that watch are there for one purpose only: ad revenue (well, and also further subservience to the corporate agenda but that is part of the design of the shows and the ads). The corporate overlords want the maximum number of eyeballs for viewing the ads, and the ads present a view on the world that is cheerily consumerist. Modern TV is a toxic hybrid of "Brave New World" and "1984."

Is he kidding us? This guy couldn't catch a piece of gum that was stuck under his chair. How much crap has passed right by Chris Matthews (and others) that would cause some of us watching to scream at the TV to correct the bold faced lie they missed (and they miss's them time and time again)

It's funny (almost) to watch Tweety get a clue - I just don't get how more of us in the general public can catch the stuff these guys miss. And my only conclusion is that they don't miss it, it's just too hard to tell a guest that they are lying... or he could even use the word Mis-spoke if lie is too harsh.

You hit the nail on the meathead....

Maybe one reason Matthew's has a hard time "listening" is because he's so in love with himself--many a time, when Tweety wasn't aware the camera was on him, it appeared to me that he'd get caught staring adoringly into the monitor...his own monitor, I mean.

So, when whatever facist guest he has on that day is spewing lies & poison, Chris, instead of paying attention to whatever is being said, is busy making goo-goo eyes at himself and telling himself how much he loves himself....seems to me.

You really think Tweety doesn't know the neocons are lying? How stupid would anybody have to be to be that fracking deaf?

With very few exceptions (Olberman, Maddow), today's MSM talking heads are willing tools in support of the political interests of their networks' corporate sponsors.

Why does this sort of thing continue to be news? Chris Matthews is a drooling boy-toy for Frank Gaffney, who is in turn a boy-toy for the next higher up in the corporate hierarchy, until you reach the the High Council of His Corporate Shadow. There you will see transnational corporate giga-demons like Rupert Murdoch, Bill Gates, the Saudi King, etc.

Tweety's skill (and his excuse) is that he describes politics as nothing more than an exciting game, where the playahs make lots of in-your-face moves, and Oh! Did. You. Hear. What. He. Said?

Doesn't matter to Tweety if one side is flat-out lying and the other side is trying to save the country from total collapse. It's all a game, baby, don't you see?

Chris Matthews is paid a lot of money NOT to see. He's paid to frame every debate as he said, she said, where a green cheese moon is on equal footing with rock. Oh boy, controversy!

I see Tweety's face, I turn the channel. Let's all start doing that.

yep. and this gaffney quip just didn't play well. so he had a do-over. now all is good. no worries. (ala cnbc)

)O(

Kind of like the cartoon type scene where I guy is nailing up a cheap painting one afternoon, hits his thumb, but only yells OW! once he's in bed for the night.

Isn't that the truth, them "Good Guys" all this time Chris, Imagine.

There are two types of people who love politics for very different reasons. For people like Matthews the means outweigh the ends, the game, the spectacle of politics is supreme. For serious people who care about improving the country the ends outweigh the means, for example ending fascism permanently is a primary goal, not what Meghan McCain is saying about her ass.

No, even more, he is an lying, treasonous, unapologetic warmonger with the blood on his hands of an unbelievable number of people--who posed no threat to us. That is not a good guy.

Yeah!

I agree with every word. Chris Matthew, let's face it, is really kind of a dim bulb. He occasionally stumbles onto a correct point of view, but he is a rudderless, center-less, empty person who's core "beliefs" change pretty much daily. and really, his beliefs around things like stem cell research, are straight out of the darkest depths of the wingnut-o-sphere.

tweety is shocked?
tweety has not found his way
out of the paper sack he crawled
into while looking for his ass.

Sometimes I think that Matthews just likes to hear himself talk. He spews his stuff and does not listen to the people he has on. Or he does not listen very well. An idea will pop into his head and he goes on autopilot. I'm sure it's a tough job but he constantly misses incredible remarks by the guests on his show. This happens all the time. Like thinking about a tingle going up his leg when Bush is talking or something.

I just had diarrhea in my drawers, Saddam had something to do with that too I'm sure!

The neocons are responsible for more innocent deaths that Saddam. They are cut from the same cloth.

You covered it all Nicole. As Stewart hammered Cramer with the obvious truth you did the same here. These people owe so much and they still don't have a clue. Please FCC can I have MY airwaves back.

he didn't seem to be speaking too fast to my ears. But then I was paying attention. Oh, and , if he's such a good guy.....?!?!?!!?........why is he LYING to you?

that the host keep things moving - changing subjects every couple of minutes, giving (somewhat) equal time to the guests/talking heads, and working in the commercial breaks. This stuff is intended to maintain and increase ratings - it's entertainment, pure and simple. Rational argument and thought is nowhere on the radar when it comes to producing these types of showgrams. Unfortunately, this is what passes as journalism these days. I don't visit the right-wing blogs, but I imagine they have their own set of video clips that prove how liberal Chris Matthews is. Do they not?

that Timothy McVay's middle name was Hussein?

That it's not Walker?

That's why Keith uses his laugh at the opening of that segment

if he hadnt allowed the loons on the show and instead the reality based community, he would have been fired like Phil Donahue..

People on "send" all the time NEVER hear what others say, they're so busy trying to convince listeners of their authority and point of view. Chris really isn't a very good anchor, simply because he doesn't listen and misses golden opportunities to make his point as a direct response to what his guests say.

I think he fears being led astray by his guests and sticks to some internal script he has going on.

OTOH, what makes Bill Moyers an excellent interviewer is because he DOES listen, he repeats back what his guest has said, adds to it, questions it, agrees or disagrees with it, but it's a "conversation". Tweetie doesn't know how to converse with others.

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Unbelievable! Matthews is a good for nothing bum at this point to let two neocons in one week--Fleischer and Gaffney come on and tell bold-faced lies. He's just giving them a forum to spin. NBC is an worthless network. Maybe we should call them Fox jr. (with a couple of aberrations in Olberman and maddow)

How about a course in journalism? There delusional infotainers have no relationship whatsoever to journalism.

was one of these guys also. Now Chris Matthews is no Tim Russert, but Russert ultimately let them off the hook on this exact same b.s. cockamamie story line of how urgent it was for us to go to war. Fine, make Matthews the face of this, but there are plenty of others. And don't forget about that bitch Judith Miller at the New York Times.

Wow, strangely Pat Buchanan seems to be getting more lucid with age! I couldn't believe what he said about the lead up to the war.

--he is incapable of engaging in what my Non-verbal Communication 101 prof calls "active listening." Already admitting he doesn't hear everything, Matthews leaves it at that and is clueless as to the cause of his condition: he is FORMULATING HIS RESPONSE while his guest is in mid-question. He is not interested in hearing anybody out; his reason for being is to rudely pounce, possibly because he's insecure about looking stupid by actually pausing, thinking, then responding. (By glaring contrast, President Obama and Robert Gibbs do not suffer from this condition). My prof doesn't know if this obnoxious "failure to communicate" can be corrected, but he suggests that first you have to give a shit about the other person and treat them with the respect they deserve. Especially if you disagree with them. Otherwise you're little more than Bill O'Reilly.

to know there lying.

The hosts on TV aren't listening because there to busy looking at the next question.

I see it in almost every interview.
Chris cuts people off before they even finish there answer.

How can he be listening.

They are just hosts. They are not real journalists.

Most journalists aren't real journalists.
What do you expect from the talking heads.

Imagine Jon Stewart interviewing Cheney.

both war criminals on some level, in my opinion. well, Addington is just a pompous, arrogant dick. and i just want to lump him in with all those other clear villains.

because he's too busy interrupting.

I remember back in like early 2006 he had Ron Reagan on, who referred to when after 9/11 Bush told the American people that what they needed to do to be patriotic was shop. Chris at first denied that could have happened, then when finally assured it was true, said he hadn't heard that.

So it's not just his guests that he doesn't find worthy of his attention.

But he did really get off on the flight suit, so in his defense we can just say he's a visual learner.

I think he forgets that he has guest on his show. Matthews may ask a guest a question then answer it himself, then turn around and ask the guest another question. It aggravates the heck out me.

MATTHEWS: Oh, OK. I don‘t know where they—where they drink this stuff.

Of course you do, weed ! It spews forth from the same corrupt pool you sprung from. Its your job to know, isn't it?

I think there should be a moratorium on that phrase "he's a good guy". These pundits use it for practically everyone on their shows, regardless of their complicity in war crimes or lying in general. It gives notice to the ugly fact that the Washington press corps and politicians are all friends, and all the drivel on the TV is just for Show. Even Paul Begala said George W. Bush was a good guy ("he's a good guy" were his exact words).

For the record, Begala said it on the Crossfire episode where Jon Stewart eviscerated the programme.

Two days ago I heard this idiot say he wasn't aware of the fact that there were many casinos in the Midwest.

I would guess there are least 150 or more.

Forget about Matthews. He should be cast as a whore every time he speaks. I don't care if, every now and then, he says something that some of you might agree with. This guy simply doesn't care. He just gets off on being there and talking whatever smack he can to get attention. He's to politicians what Joan Rivers was to celebrities at one point. It's the exact same thing. I just have more respect for Joan Rivers in that she at least had no illusions about the fact that she was presenting shallow entertainment.

Gaffney was the worst I've seen , 100 % outrageous lies , pure neocon horse shit that has all been disproved absolutely long ago , this guy made Cheney look like a rational and sane man . I was so mad at Matthews that I had to keep myself from planting my foot in the TV screen . It was completely irresponsible to let this lunatic ass hole go unchallenged and just get away with it , would have taken little to no effort to expose this guy and discredit him 100 % . Matthews has no balls , dignity or class , should rename his show softball . Do the country a favor Matthews , let John Stewart take over your show .

I stopped watching his show. He doesn't come off the screen as informed or intelligent to me, he just comes off as a doddering narcissist.

Hey Guys: Channel surfed by Tweety breifly the other night, and I am
not sure I know or would recognize this Gaffney...Help me out..
Is he the baldheaded,bearded guy with the funky,f'd up right ear?
He sure was talking some BS before I moved on..
Deb Vegas

Tweety's wings were clipped a long time ago.

He should be reading the articles and comments on Crooks and Liars for actual
NEWS.
Seriously I still think the only message to gain traction at MSNBC is to pick
a specific date for bloggers to post their complaints about Tweety and his show.

Blow their website with comments and someone there may actually decide
to read a few and make some changes.

Well said!

" YOU LET THEM. You--and all these other derelict talking heads (because I will not call any of you a journalist)--let them come on your program and lie. And because you weren't listening, they knew they could do it with impunity, because there would be no follow up questions, no context, no verification and no obstacles."

You are so right on. This is something that needs to be said and said often to many who call themselves journalists.

Wow, you just can't post crap worth here without going after Matthews, even if you have to pull it out of thin air...or somewhere else. Stay objective.

What's with the anthrax reference? It almost sounds like he accused the Weekly Standard of having sent the anthrax letters. Doesn't it?

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