Larry King Live: Republican Women Implode Over Their Party And Sarah Palin
The Republican Party has always had amazing message discipline when it comes to their talking heads. They have their talking points and dutifully repeat them verbatim, echoing throughout the media until they become accepted conventional wisdom, regardless of the truth of the matter.
That's what makes this segment from The Larry King Show so fascinating. The inclusion of Sarah Palin on the Hate Talk Express appears to have actually derailed the Republican Party too. And these talking heads, columnist Kathleen Parker, consultant Michelle Laxalt and Bay Buchanan, once so reliably in tune with the GOP, are imploding and scattering in different directions. Buchanan, sticks with the party line, even making up stats (90% of Republicans are behind this ticket? Uh, not even close). Parker sticks with her well-documented assertion that Palin should leave the ticket for the good of the party. And Laxalt takes feminist umbrage (seriously, what's a feminist doing in the GOP anyway) with the misogynistic bent of the McCain handlers, who send out a neophyte female politician but aren't "man" enough to not back her up:
In my estimation, she is being used unfairly as a tool by a team who, by the way, do not even support, nor does their candidate, equal pay for women for equal work. So if she is going to be the traditional vice presidential attack dog -- which I concur with Bay, that's very much a traditional role -- why didn't her male running mate, i.e. the candidate himself, man up and speak to those issues, calling his opponent essentially unpatriotic, calling him a terrorist?
I'm sorry. This is not the Republican Party that Bill Buckley, that Paul Laxalt, that Ronald Reagan raised me on. And I don't believe the American people like this kind of dirty politics. If they can't win fair and square, they shouldn't trash the other guy.
Transcripts below the fold
KING: Michelle, the last time you were with us, you had doubts about the ticket because of her.
Where do you stand now?
MICHELLE LAXALT, GOP CONSULTANT: I have increasing doubts, Larry, about the ticket. And my doubts center around what I see the McCain management team doing with Governor Palin. I see a team who brought a young governor onto a national scene, tossed her into the deep end five weeks before November. I see them managing her. I hear from inside the McCain campaign that she is essentially being treated like a secretary or a staffer, not a genuine vice presidential running mate. And I think it is absolutely confirmed that when they send her out, this good 'ole boy team -- some of whom, parenthetically, Governor Reagan and my father, Senator Laxalt, fired from the Reagan campaign for these kinds of dirty tricks.
They have sent this young, naive, very confident, perhaps, in Alaska, young woman out with the most incendiary talking points, the most dangerous...
KING: All right...
LAXALT: ...racist talking points. And I think they should be ashamed of themselves.
KING: All right. The content of her -- Bay, the concept of her being an attack dog, let's watch this and get Bay to comment.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PALIN: I think the phoniest claim in a campaign that's been full of them is that Barack Obama is going to cut your taxes.
(LAUGHTER)
PALIN: He's not willing to drill for energy, but he's sure willing to drill for votes.
(LAUGHTER)
PALIN: And you mean to tell me that he didn't know that he had launched his own political career in the living room of a domestic terrorist?
(END VIDEO CLIP)
KING: All right, Bay, is all fair in love and war?
Is that fair?
BAY BUCHANAN, CNN CONTRIBUTOR, SUPPORTS MCCAIN: Sarah Palin is point for this campaign. She is doing a remarkable job. It is the vice presidential's job to be the attack dog. And she does an exceptional one -- with a sense of humor, with grace, but she makes the point extremely tough. I mean she goes right for the throat against this guy, raises very, very legitimate issues and causes the national media to start to talk about this, something they've seemed, up to this point, refused to do...
KING: All right, is she...
BUCHANAN: ...what's the true character of Barack Obama?
KING: Is she helping?
BUCHANAN: Oh, I mean you can't -- there's no argument there whatsoever. She has clearly done a remarkable job. Not only did she energize the base, she delivered the base to John McCain. What she now still holds, over 90 percent of Republicans behind this ticket.
KING: But...
BUCHANAN: She basically brought tens of thousands of people to rallies -- Obama level rallies now, because of Sarah Palin. Seventy million people, Larry, turned in to see that debate. Seventy million. They weren't looking at Biden, I'll guarantee you.
KING: But, Kathleen, since the debate, Obama is 9 points ahead.
PARKER: Yes. I don't think Sarah Palin is helping McCain. I really don't. Absolutely, she's animating the base. The base is practically hysterical with animation. But he already has the base. You know, the base is not going to vote for Obama.
So she's not helping him with people he needs, which are women voters, who have left him en masse to go back to Obama and with Independents and moderates, who are leaving the McCain camp. And I think many of them were leaning toward him, but now because of her and because of some of this incendiary language, they're moving the other way.
So I don't think that's helpful...
BUCHANAN: Larry...
PARKER: And...
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We're over.
PARKER: Yes?
BUCHANAN: Larry, that's just -- she's completely inaccurate. I hate to tell you this, but number one, McCain never had the base -- never, until Sarah Palin. That was Sarah Palin's job and she did it perfectly.
And the second point is, for three weeks after that convention, we were climbing. She, Sarah Palin, managed to basically eliminate the bump the Democrats got out of their convention. And we moved ahead because of Sarah Palin.
The day we started to drop was the day the banks collapsed. And you can look at all of the polls you want and blame it on Sarah, but it has a whole lot more to do with the environment than it does Sarah.
KING: Michelle, are you not supporting the ticket?
LAXALT: Look, I think -- I can't believe the tone of this conversation. Here we are, three conservative, loyal Republican women. And we are talking about a female who could be the vice president of the United States of America.
In my estimation, she is being used unfairly as a tool by a team who, by the way, do not even support, nor does their candidate, equal pay for women for equal work. So if she is going to be the traditional vice presidential attack dog -- which I concur with Bay, that's very much a traditional role -- why didn't her male running mate, i.e. the candidate himself, man up and speak to those issues, calling his opponent essentially unpatriotic, calling him a terrorist?
I'm sorry. This is not the Republican Party that Bill Buckley, that Paul Laxalt, that Ronald Reagan raised me on. And I don't believe the American people like this kind of dirty politics. If they can't win fair and square, they shouldn't trash the other guy.
BUCHANAN: Michelle...
KING: All right, Bay. There's more to come.



I would love to hear what these Republican ladies think of the new Sarah Palin inflatable love doll: http://brainrageblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/not...
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Oy Gevalt!
Talk about schanwstucker shrivellers.
)o(
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
mccain: vice president bargain shopper
Let's not be so hasty! Palin Rallies Crowd at Columbus Day Rally
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3948
Palin Sex Doll
Mon, 10/13/2008 - 12:04 — James B Webb (not verified)
I would love to hear what these Republican ladies think of the new Sarah Palin inflatable love doll: http://brainrageblog.blogspot.com/2008/10/not...
Trouble is wouldn't she just sort of lay there, and make you do all the work
Kind of like the real thing?
)O(
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Palin is McCain's trophy running mate. No more, no less.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
f?
Mon, 10/13/2008 - 12:05 — bloo (not verified)
mccain: vice president bargain shopper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LDvwPXpThM
)O(
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Awright, awright, enough with the sex doll jokes, already. I like to indulge in a little ideological venting now and again like anyone, but McCain supporters are the ugly, childish ones, not us.
Remember, this is FAR from over. Let the positive news encourage you to stronger effort, not lay back and coast. A little bounce-back in the markets, a couple of gaffes, and some well-written attack ads, and this thing is right back in play. No joke. Get those absentees in NOW while Obama is in favor. Celebrate November 5th.
-Scott
so, november 5, you can either do it to your palin hot air doll, she can do it to you.
ps i'll be canvassing weekends, turns out, most people really don't seem to mind if you approach them about the election. went twice already and got lots of good response, many people very appreciative of the effort.
nice to see some two on one action.
Anyone who heard McCain's speech today on the economy vs Obama's has to know which candidate has actually thought this whole economic mess out and understands the issues. Sadly the working people will see neither speech because well, they are working. I would love to think the evening news would compare and contrast the two speeches tonight, but I know better.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Thanks to y'all and C&L for this opportunity to blogwhore:
http://freewayblogger.blogspot.com/2008/10/pe...
I think I'll probably just keep doing peace signs 'til november.
As an honored guest and frankly something of a hero around here Scarlet P. I don't suppose anyone will mind. Blog on brother. I like your current message: short and to the point.
Hasa Diga Eebowai
And there's Bay with the standard McCain talking point:
'... some very serious and legitimate questions that need to be answered ...'
THEN ASK THE GORRAM QUESTION. Step up to the mic and say, "Hey, Barack, is it true Bill Ayers taught you how to make bombs in the basement? That he autographed your copy of the Anarchists' Cookbook? That there are photos of you both being unrepentant?"
If it's so serious, and so legitimate, ASK THE QUESTION. Don't fracking mince around.
Of course, we know they won't, ever, because they have nothing of substance. But I'm sick and tired of hearing 'serious and legitimate questions' bandied about by everyone from pundits to blogtrolls.
I couldn't believe my ears.
I like what Michelle Laxalt said at the end, "If they can't win fair and square...." If Republicans actually lived by that, they might be respectable.
Didn't Goldwater live by that credo? It's funny how Nixon and Goldwater are liberal by today's standards.
23 days left. Go get 'em Barack!
I told my wife it's like watching a democratic campaign.
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Is Bay trying for that Palin look with those goofy glasses?
Yeah... Pat's brother Bay is a real douchebag.
The one in the middle, Michel Lasky (ie) had better hire someone to sort out her hatemail this week.
According to Bay: "but number one, McCain never had the base -- never, until Sarah Palin. That was Sarah Palin's job and she did it perfectly."
In another word, McCain is a nobody till Palin came around? She just put her party's presidential candidate down to the toilet.
The moral of this story is that women are not stupid! Well except the likes of Bay and Palin.
"BUCHANAN: Larry, that's just -- she's completely inaccurate. I hate to tell you this, but number one, McCain never had the base -- never, until Sarah Palin. That was Sarah Palin's job and she did it perfectly."
So McCain is nothing without Palin? Is she truly a walking, talking Prop? :-D
NOBODY 2012
So whatever happened to the ann colter inflatable sex doll?
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Discontinued due to lack of sales, and the fact that the mere mention of her name or sight of her causes nausea.
NOBODY 2012
Made in China huh?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
she IS a blowup doll. Wow.... Who knew?
For pervs with emphysema?
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
yah, and the fact that they couldn't find a way to emulate her bony, skeletal frame with an inflatable doll. air's entirely too soft.
i hear someone is working on a "li'l baby bulimic" doll based on coulter, tho. if you rub the belly it vomits right-wing talking points and unhinged vitriol.
:)
I had one, but clowns kept making balloon animals out of it.
Re: Larry King Live: Republican Women Implode Over Their Party New
Mon, 10/13/2008 - 12:37 — JohnnyBravo
"BUCHANAN: Larry, that's just -- she's completely inaccurate. I hate to tell you this, but number one, McCain never had the base -- never, until Sarah Palin. That was Sarah Palin's job and she did it perfectly."
So McCain is nothing without Palin? Is she truly a walking, talking Prop?
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I guess you can say sarah's an expert at drawing out baseness.
)O(
I just look up baseness in an online dictionary, and apparently in archaic English can also be indicative of someone of small stature. At 5'3" d'ya think I qualify?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
problem is laxalt is a rare kind in her party, which is now populated by rabid and unreasonable partisans like bay and her brother.
If they can't win fair and square, they shouldn't rig elections and suppress voters either, but hey...
What's the difference between an explosion and an implosion?
These being reichwing women it makes little difference since the most they experience is a little buzzing.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
But they are not being honest. Sarah Palin is too stupid and inexperienced to have even been considered for the role of VP to such an old man. Sarah has a couple of topics she knows a few things about, ie abortion and her view of the war.... and she's cute. It ends there.
Trying to put the equal pay for equal work topic up is ludicrous. This woman may not even believe that a woman's place is anywhere outside the home, unless of course she can get into politics.
She knows enough to know that she is race-baiting, whether at the behest of the McCain campaign or just because. She has free will and can say no to anything that is repugnant to her moral code. So far, she hasn't seen fit to do it. She looks pretty much like a very willing participant in all this.
ALL women.
This monster loses credibility for all intelligent, professional women.
Particularly those of us in male-dominated fields.
This does NOTHING for the perception that good-looking women can't be smart, successful, and have a high level of integrity.
Sarah Palin is a disgrace to my gender, imo.
I'm willing to bet you don't wink at the men in meetings. Right?
far left loon >.<
And it was an inside joke. The meeting touched on the topic of materials that react with water. The correct response of course would have been things like potassium (or other alkali metals), but I muttered under my breath "gremlins" and got a few laughs. The topic of gremlins (and zombies, lolcats, 1337 speak, and the age-old debate of ninjas vs. pirates) are a common inside joke between my young coworkers and myself, and winks were exchanged. In my defense, you have to crack jokes at those meetings or else your soul will be sucked right out of your body.
These ladies can kvetch all they want....
Mon, 10/13/2008 - 13:08 — Kathy Smith (not verified)
(Fixed it for ya)
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
What's up with comments on the Howie Kurtz total wankery?
I felt a very strong need to mention what a completely clueless POS Kurtz is. Poor Widdle Johnnie McCain and Poor Widdle Sarwah Paywin. They basically call Obama a terrorist and Howie thinks the media are being unfair to them because -- as Roger Simon has noticed -- the media point out that McCain and Palin they're inciting hate in their rallies.
It should be fixed now...comment away.
Buchanan is quite the shill here. She also either confuses or deliberately misrepresents one of her cohort's points. Palin did shore up the conservative base, it's true, but she's not helping McCain much with independents and other swing voters, and at this point is driving at least some of them away.
It's very rare to see Republican women stray from the pre-ordained script and think for themselves. I'm of the belief that Palin's ascension has really pissed off the few "intellectuals" of the party. It would have been easier for them to fall in line had Palin demonstrated an IQ above her age, but now the GOP elite can't get behind this dimwit. After an embarrassing loss to Obama, Palin and McCain will be on future GOP shit lists.
The rabid base, angry or not (when aren't they angry, but that's another thread) would never vote Democratic. They didn't like McCain, but how many of them switched to Obama to protest? (Answer: NONE.)
far left loon >.<
Good Lord, a Reagan Republican is sickened by Palin? That is saying quite a bit.
there you go again..................
Reality has a liberal bias
I think this should have been on CNN International yesterday, but it wasn't. Instead they re-ran a cheesy programme from last week, pre-empting Larry King Live. Maybe they didn't want the world to see how embarassing ALL OF IT IS. However, world opinion of the USA can't sink any lower.
far left loon >.<
Then again, maybe it can?
far left loon >.<
Laxalt & Parker show some degree of integrity by admitting what an absolute mess the Republican campaign & party have become and their act needs to be cleaned up. Someone should have given Bay Buchanan a broom........
to ride on!!!
Looks like the "Bubble, bubble, toil and trouble" trio have an Obama mole stirring the pot. Time to rewrite the plot.
Is Bay sounding more like Granny Clampett these days?
This is the REAL Republican party.
HTH! :)
That was fun.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
" Country first " I think it is.
None of these republicans sounded like putting country first.
It sounded more like party loyalty first.
This republican discourse outbreak has been occuring all across the republican lines.
Might America finally break the republican media and republican elitists ( for instance the PNAC'ers ), from controlling the republican party?
If Obama wins the election, might we see a GOP break away from the old controllers and rebirth of its ideology?
After all, with Krugman winning the Nobel and the republican free market collapse, isn't Friedman economics dead? hasn't the free market ran its course of anything goes, free for all with no laws?
So, Buchanan's a cross dresser now?
Is Bay Buchanan admitting what the base of the Republican party is today? Sure sounds like it to me. Barry Goldwater is spinning in his grave.
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