Oklahoma Catholics Upset Over Perceived Genitalia On Crucifix
I admit that I was never a really devoted Catholic during the time that I identified myself as a Catholic. But I did learn the tenets of the faith and found a place in my heart for Jesus's teachings, which were about love and acceptance and taking care of one another (I had a seriously hippy priest, can you tell?). Maybe because my mind tends not to go into the gutter when contemplating the sacrifice of Jesus's crucifixion--and the symbolic weighty acceptance of the blame for all our sins--I just saw this as "mighty Jesus with six pack abs" rather than "Jesus with an enormous and exposed member". I, apparently, am in the minority:
Churchgoers are outraged over a crucifix in a Catholic church they say shows Jesus with exposed genitalia.
Janet Jaime is the artist who designed the crucifix hanging in St. Charles Borromeo Catholic Church. She was unavailable for comment, but her husband said critics are misinterpreting a common religious icon.
"This isn't just a subjective drawing. This is a historical icon of the church,” said Reggie Jaime, husband of Janet Jaime, an Oklahoma City iconographer commissioned by the church to design the crucifix. “I can't help what you see in things, or she sees in things, or anyone.”
The church's pastor, Father Phillip Seeton, referred questions Wednesday to the Oklahoma City Archdiocese.
Monsignor Edward Weisenburger said he has no problems with the crucifix and referred specific questions back to Seeton.
Critics of the crucifix take issue with what appears to be a large penis covering the abdominal area.
The crucifix is about 10 feet tall and hangs above the church's altar. It is unclear how long it has been there.
Molly Jenkins said she attended a funeral at the church recently and immediately noticed the crucifix.
“I was appalled at the sexualization of Christ,” said Jenkins, who is not Catholic.
Actually, I find it more than a little appalling that in an age where the church points fingers at everyone other than themselves over inappropriate sexual behavior towards children, adults are working themselves into a tizzy over a work of art that reflects where their brains are more than the work itself.
what they want to see. Since they think in the gutter, they assume everybody does.
That's a HUGE DICK !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5w_DqhpMuFY&fe...
Or a very strange intestinal parasite.
Well, as the son of God, wouldn't he have a tremendous wang?
So it isn't a dick at all. My first impression was that it was an Eastern rite or Orthodox icon. Then I read the text and saw that's what the artist intended. It's exactly the same style. These people who are complaining should get their minds out of the gutter and themselves into more Byzantine and Orthodox churches. Unfortunately, most Catholics are not so catholic in their familiarity with the art of other rites and religions.
I thought "laces out" was the standard presentation when attempting field goals.
My bad. It is indeed right side up.
I'd be a God too if my dick was that big!
AMEN!
This is obviously traditional Church artwork, but you don't have to be a sixth grade boy to see something else there, especially after someone in your pew points it out. (Thanks a lot, Nicole!)
I'll say this much, as iconography it sure hits its mark. Believers and nonbelievers alike will proclaim, "Jesus Christ!"
A chaney, dick?
hung on a cross!
LOL!
Wow.
I have never in my life seen abs drawn like that. Who has six pack abs that are actually a 4 pack with 2 looong tapered tops and two short spherical bulges on the bottom?
All you need to do is see it once and you will never be able to look at the statue again without seeing it and being reminded of it. Any artist who allows that to happen "by accident" is a terrible artist who shouldn't be commissioned to do work for churches.
I don't think it's a matter of either understanding art or being a pervert. I say if it looks like a dick it's a dick. . even if it is a Byzantine Orthodox blah blah blah artsy fartsy abdomen dick.
"How could we possibly see any signs that priests were raping 6-year-old boys? We don't 'think in the gutter' because we have '6-pack Jesus'!"
Genitalia or no, that's horrible art , part pre-Renaissance iconography, part Hell's Angels tattoo.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
I thought the same thing. Perhaps this was a nod to cartoonists? LOL... Wouldn't you love to get a comment from the artist? Come on now, we know cartoonists are pranksters and often hide images in Disney films (which are very hilarious).
And now that someone in Oklahomo has seen a giant dork, I can't even look at it without seeing a giant dork, too. LMAO!
Christ was built like a Ken doll.
Those OK catholics have filthy disgusting minds
me-oww!
I see the problem. Jesus was crucified, not hung.
Good one!
... He wasn't stoned.
Weird, weird, weird.
Wow, the Lord really has risen! LOL!
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classic
His penis is larger than his leg...so few of us have that condition.
Holy Trinity and all that?
Better the priests give a crucifix a blow-job than an altar boy!
These are likely the same types of individuals that have a problem with THIS picture.
Here's a clue, kids. Jesus was a man, so he had a sense of humor.
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg298/cher...
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That's Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson!
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
And here I thought that Peter was the rock of the church.
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Jesus didn't laugh! See you in hell.
I'll save a warm spot for ya. ;o)
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Peter pull at St. Taffy's?
http://loljesus.com/
Boy, is blasphemy fun!
Amazing that people find an artistic rendition of a big crotch rocket offensive, yet see nothing wrong with praying to statues of a man nailed to a cross......
Look at the size of that thing. No wonder he was worshiped.
Who would have thought Jesus was hung like Ron...
and these bible belt people? Weird bastards. So many damn churches that do not pay taxes offends me.
Republicans are liars and simply cannot be trusted.
It's all about sin!!!
Hate your body, hate yourself, hate everyone else,God hates you- and you'll burn in hell.
What's not to love about Christianity?
... shame is something we learned from the other guy, the talking snake.
Holy shit, the Bible is full of these kinds of references! Talking snakes, eating the fruit of the tree, dancing with snakes ...
Like the Holy Church of Exxon/Mobil.
OMG (I meant to reply to Joementum). wow.
Honestly, though, I see what the upset parishioners see and it would bother me. When did a house of worship become a locker room?
Yes, all the other problems persist. We don't need any more uh, bright shiny objects to distract us from real problems.
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So, Jesus has a penis...
... BFD. Being born Son of God made him male. males have penises.
What gets me is that in this day and age, the Anglo Jesus is still being promoted.
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Starve the WAR Beast...
... Save the World.
Coming soon to ebay....hundreds of auctions by people who see Jesus in their zucchinis.
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;o)
risen indeed!
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It DOES look like a giant penis! I also love the skull under his feet. As much as I love things that make a mockery of religion, I can't really say this big boy should offend anyone...its just poor artistic talent for drawing abs (unless it was intensional to make it look like a giant penis). Either way, too funny!!
Shouldn't they be shorter? I thought Jesus retired before the Michael Jordan/long shorts era.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
And just look at those ladies gawking. My God, keep it in your pants, Lord.
because his balls are so high. He must've sung like a castrato...
me-oww!
he got called up to the Bigs ... (word is his old man arranged the whole thing ...)
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And here is a picture of a hard bodied guy with a six pack (not a cock and balls) abdomen:
http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ct/lf/achieve-si...
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
You were just lookin for an excuse to post that picture. ;o)
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"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
http://www.partypants.co.uk/fancy-dress-site-...
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
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"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Are you sure those are six pack abs? I've looked at that picture a couple of times, and I could swear that I see two penii's there! (Is that the plural of penis?)
which would be appropriate in this context, I suppose, it's, "penes."
I took 4 years of Latin in high school, but I guess the Jesuits didn't teach us certain words!
Sure seem obsessed over penises. Maybe they can all get jobs at Ghirardelli's, packing fudge....
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Well, from experience I can tell you that Catholic high school girls are obsessed with penises.
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... being obsessed with a few Catholic high school girls. Yow.
'Actually, I find it more than a little appalling that in an age where the church points fingers at everyone other than themselves over inappropriate sexual behavior towards children, adults are working themselves into a tizzy over a work of art that reflects where their brains are more than the work itself.
OK that's bullshit. I understand the concept there. But I'm an atheist who isn't particularly sexually demented and let me tell you: that's a giant boner Jesus is popping.
let me tell you: that's a giant boner Jesus is popping.
Feeling inadequate? ;o)
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...it took me a while to figure out what in the hell they were upset about. I was looking below the waistband.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Again, I looked at it and saw six pack abs. I didn't see a boner right away. Maybe because I'm too pragmatic, but I have a hard time conceptualizing how someone could pop a woody while dying, nailed to a cross, so I didn't see an erection.
Strictly speaking, it's a little on the generous side too. And let's face it, Jesus is a jew and that is not a circumcised organ either.
Strictly speaking, it's a little on the generous side too.
A little?!?! Well, I can see it must be tough dating YOU! LOL!
I'm KIDDDING!!!
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I can tell you that none of the guys I dated were so well-equipped.
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“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/08/13-y...
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
you never know.
Geez...you're the one who's supposed to keep us OUT of the gutter!!
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Now I am worshipful....
http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/theclog/file...
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Is that the Goddess of the Size Queens?
I assume that they don't sacrifice virgins to her.
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I had a drawing class once and we had a model once that would give Buddy christ above a run for his money, and we only saw it flaccid. I thought he might pass out trying to activate it.
me-oww!
And Joe Camel just had a big funny nose.
This is a guy with a six pack:
http://i.ehow.com/images/a04/ct/lf/achieve-si...
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Granted, it's been a few decades since I picked it up, but I don't remember the Bible ever saying that Jesus loved to do stomach crunches.
I just don't think it was intended to be a huge erection.
the loaf and masses fed.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
... since drawing/sculpting is a hobby, that's clearly an exaggeration of the abdominal muscles.
I can't help it if you see a giant penis.
What's next, outrage because you saw two faces instead of a vase?
Yes. Exaggeration is a good word. The abdomen is exaggerated waaay up on the top half like it is stretched tight and tapered. . and on the bottom half it is exaggerated waaay down so that it looks like 2 balls at the bottom of a giant dick.
I have a hard time conceptualizing how someone could pop a woody while dying, nailed to a cross
never underestimate the male's 'potential'
"I have a hard time conceptualizing how someone could pop a woody while dying, nailed to a cross"
I don't know about that, Nicole. Some people have died during autoerotic asphyxiation.
She said "Hard time" heh heh heh
I'm just saying, this isn't one of those things where you think to yourself 'well, maybe if I tilt my head and squint it KIND of looks like the virgin mary...'
Just stupid to claim this is one of those 'only a pervert would see that' kind of things.
Are staring at it!
this one, but here it is anyway:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sepultura/228208...
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“The greatest evildoers are those who don’t remember because they have never given thought to the matter, and, without remembrance, nothing can hold them back,”
That's funny.
Gideon Bible courtesy of Tom Bodette.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
That's hilarious! I need to get something like that!
It looks like cheney.
Pre or post deferrment?
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Naw. With a weapon like that, no one would survive being shot in the face.
I would cut it into little squares and sell them as a Viagra substitute to those seeking a miracle cure for ED.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Vicarious redemption through blood sacrifice is not something I'd be proud of believing in.
I think the crucifixion is ugly. Who cares if it looks like there's a penis, it's a drawing of a horrible torture scene. Wtf is it with christians and bloody jesus. Very creep and disturbing IMO.
The Bible is full of burnt offerings and sacrificial lambs. God decides to punk Abraham and get him to put Isaac on the altar. Isaac, being the good son that he is, obediently lies down on the altar and never questions the crazy old geezer with the knife.
Leviticus is full of strictures as to how and when you can make your sacrifices.
The idea being that when Christ shed his blood, it was a reciprocal gesture that sealed the contract between God and man which had seen ongoing negotiations since Abraham.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
Go after the concrete rather than the significant.
I think janet jamie knew exactly what she was doing.
If by chance she didn`t, then it was her subconcious. Something must be missing in her life. Thats where her husband comes in.
Is Jesus hung or hanged?
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That was priceless, thanks for sharing.
I'm not thirsty....
Cue the Kabuki....
He thought it looked like two penises in profile.
... how your priest knows this? ;)
Who's the damn liberal who painted a hard-on on my beloved savior?
they expect now their women will love Jesus even more than they love them.
obviously a pervert and sees dirty things where they don't exist.
What the hell is it? hahahahaha . .
I'm a grown woman and it doesn't look like any penis I've ever seen . .
I hope this woman never attends the harvest festival.
She's liable to pass out.
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are staring right at it.
I didn't know Jesus was uncircumcised.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons...
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
so neatly trimmed down there.
but now that you brought it to my attention, it does look like a penis with tremendous balls. That "artist" knew that there would be serious controversy over her creation. She had to know that catholics are conservative and would see evil at the drop of a hat. I think she did it on purpose to generate controversy and publicity for her work, which IMHO. is quite dreadful!!.
Catholics are NOT all conservative.
I'd say it's even more inappropriate to be thinking about Jesus' dick in church.
I think someone should ask Bill Donohue what he thinks about this.
... it's the homosexuals' fault.
proves it is inherited.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
http://seemikedraw.files.wordpress.com/2007/0...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I'm surprised that one of the militia in OLK. didn't shoot it down yet.
... shooting J.C. in the nuts?
This image demonstrates the old maxim, "Jesus SHAVES"!
"The Good and Great Must Ever Shun, That Reckless and Abandoned One
Who Stoops to Perpetrate a Pun," Lewis Carroll, 'The Three Voices.'
Steeped in sin
Man needs savin'
But for a five o'clock shadow
He just needs shavin'
Burma Shave
Farmer Jones
Who's Bald on Top
Wishes He Could
Rotate the Crop
Burma Shave
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
the Catholic Church's alley.
Jesus' balls come out of his stomach, they're perfectly shorn and the son, as it were, is risen.
Brock? Brock Lasnar? Is that you?
... wouldn't the Shroud of Turin be a bit larger?
the faithful should be very afraid of the second coming?
grab a towel!
Not really, but seriously, the first thing I thought of ...big dick. Next time just post the picture and ask if anybody sees anything that sticks out, I mean if anything seems different.
the first comment would be someone complaining there was yet another post about the Catholic Church.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
I'll never be able to look at a crucifix without seeing a penis again.
http://pentaclepower.com/images/crucifix.jpg
http://www.wga.hu/art/m/master/san_fran/cruci...
http://www.lib-art.com/imgpainting/8/4/17948-...
http://www.sacred-destinations.com/italy/assi...
http://temperaworkshop.com/history/cimabue-cr...
http://www.shafe.co.uk/crystal/images/lshafe/...
I think this proves what the artist is saying that she did it in the old style and didn't add something maliciously.
in her bowlegged glory on top.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
You are absolutely right! I think the artist just made the stomach area too narrow, and quite possibly didn't see anything wrong with the art . . . now that it has been pointed out, we're doomed to see penises in every depiction of Christ from that era.
It's true that these pieces you show have a stylized approach and over exaggerate the shape of the abdomen. One or two of them even elongate the top portion. None of them are even close to the one in question, however. That one is as if someone looked at those you posted and then made a new one to use as prop in a comedy bit. . .
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“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
that would be tiny url
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... doesn't use ******* or other compressors. Just post the link.
Because she heard there was a guy there hung like that.
Be as you wish to seem
Are now dreading the coming of the lord... though if you want to see, it's only $9.99 in grainy VHS format.
but he couldn't rise again for 3 days ...
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Can you imagine if you sent the pope this picture and all of our comments on C&L, he would have a fit and call us the devil.
Yet if you are a priest and you molest little boys, well thats OK.
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