RIP Walter Cronkite, 1916 - 2009
Open thread below.
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Absolutely devastating to me, even though I knew it was coming. He had more journalistic integrity in one finger that most modern "news' networks have on their entire payroll. Rest in Peace, Mr. Cronkite.
that I am also quite devastated.
I always thought my grandfather looked a lot like Walter Cronkite. Truthfully, he looked like Cronkite and Walt Disney morphed together.
But my granddad had that same kind of gravitas with inherent trustworthiness that Cronkite had and it's almost like losing him again knowing that Cronkite is gone.
His death is truly symbolic for the death of journalism in the US too.
I don't want to hear a single obituary on Cronkite from the corporate media. Not because I don't respect the man, but because I do respect the man. Blogger and independent media obituaries, however, are quite welcome.
Cronkite would never have gone along with the media as they did in the past eight years, whoring themselves and any integrity they might have had just for the sake of maintaining access. Cronkite would have reported from the street in front of the white house explaining why he wasn't given a pass to attend briefings and would have questioned the Bu**sh** regime's motives.
The media today are not fit to talk about him.
The current crop of propagandists and product shills aren't worthy of speaking the mans name let alone his obituary.
It makes me incredibly sad to know that Walter lived long enough to see the corruption and death of his beloved industry.
I hope that he goes to whatever end he believed in and exists in peace.
If more news reporters today had half the honor and integrity of Cronkite then the American people would have been much better informed this past decade. Walter was the best of my lifetime.
Sweet dreams.
Who's going to compare themselves as journalists to Cronkite first, OReilly or Beck? And how much to bet that they'll bring up ratings?
Actually, O'Reilly has trashed Cronkite on a good number of occasions.
that to be a good journalist, you need to be a liberal. This wouldn't sit well with BOR.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
"PLAYBOY: Implicit in the Administration's attempts to force the networks to "balance" the news is a conviction that most newscasters are biased against conservatism. Is there some truth in the view that television newsmen tend to be left of center?
CRONKITE: Well, certainly liberal, and possibly left of center as well. I would have to accept that.
PLAYBOY: What's the distinction between those two terms?
CRONKITE: I think the distinction is both clear and important. I think that being a liberal, in the true sense, is being nondoctrinaire, nondogmatic, noncommitted to a cause—but examining each case on its merits. Being left of center is another thing; it's a political position. I think most newspapermen by definition have to be liberal; if they're not liberal, by my definition of it, then they can hardly be good newspapermen. If they're preordained dogmatists for a cause, then they can't be very good journalists; that is, if they carry it into their journalism. As far as the leftist thing is concerned, that I think is something that comes from the nature of a journalist's work. Most newsmen have spent some time covering the seamier side of human endeavor; they cover police stations and courts and the infighting in politics. And I think they come to feel very little allegiance to the established order. I think they're inclined to side with humanity rather than with authority and institutions. And this sort of pushes them to the left. But I don't think there are many who are far left. I think a little left of center probably is correct. "
http://www.playboy.com/articles/walter-cronki...
...what it's like to have a newsman whose political affiliations were indeterminate. And yet he still had a personality - I remember when the Mission Control first reported that the Apollo 11 lunar lander had parked, he was grinning and fidgeting and rubbing his hands together like a little kid. I will miss Mr. Conkrite.
not sure if they still show his docs and his reenactments in schools, but i learned alot from the you are there and the twentieth century series
goodnite uncle walter...the world is now less without you
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/07/17/t...
feinstein is a conservative in liberal clothing and boxer is a total ditz
can someone please run good, intelligent progressives against them in the next primaries?
please?
Isn't "good, intelligent progressive" an oxymoron?
Warmest regards,
"Tin Hat" Abbybwood, R.N.
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Raise enough contributions and you can run against them yourself. It's all about fund raising.
Let's see how far to the right they go before they fall off of the edge of this flat world.
Bill Moyers (in 1987 on PBS): “This remains for me the heart of the matter. The men who wrote our Constitution, our basic book of rules, were concerned that power be held accountable. No party of government and no person in government, not even the President, was to pick or choose among the laws to be obeyed. But how does one branch of government blow the whistle on another? Or how do the people cry foul when their liberties are imperiled, if public officials can break the rules, lie to us about it, and then wave the wand of national security to silence us?”
“Can it happen again? You bet it can...”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sstDwKTCpM (19:56 in)
R.I.P. Mr. Cronkite. You were a nightly fixture in our hosuehold growing up and will be sadly missed.
far left loon >.<
I guess that sums it up for me too.
Even sadder is that the legacy he left behind has been so bastardized by the opinionated, histrionic propagandists that we are stuck with today. Those of us who grew up with him will always cherish those memories, both good (Apollo 11) and bad (Vietnam, JFK). In spirit I hope that he is sailing smoothly downwind on the seas of a peaceful eternity.
"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper
RIP Mr. Cronkite, the "most trusted man in America during the biggest events in the 20th century." -NYTimes.
Compare today. Can anyone name a comparably trusted major American journalist? Anyone even close? Maybe Bill Moyers.
This occasion is a good time for the press to take a long look in the mirror.
According to Moyers, when Cronkite did his editorial about the Tet Offensive, and said Vietnam was unwinnable, LBJ's reaction was, "Well, if I've lost Cronkite, I've lost middle America."
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
And tells themselves how glorious and grand they are. With a few exceptions, they are venal and corrupt moneygrubbers that only have their self interest and promotion in mind. They have squandered everything Walter tirelessly worked for so they could get their nine pieces of silver.
How fortunate I was to have grown up with Walter and his colleagues in the 60's and 70's. I know I won't ever see his kind in the media again.
"We will find fulfillment not in the goods that we have, but in the good we can do for each other."
Robert F. Kennedy
My grandfather looked more like Col. Sanders. He used to put on one of those little ties and freak out the staff at Kentucky Fried Chicken (or so it was called back then.) I remember one time they said, "We're sorry, but we're going to have to charge you sir." As a kid, I loved it. He also spoke fake Japanese and gave me firecrackers.
far left loon >.<
This breaks my heart. A professional, reputable, honest, decent human being. THE news source my parents trusted during Watergate and Vietnam.
He will be sorely missed. And that's the way it is.
was that when he said", And that's the way it is.", he had just finished telling you exactly how it was.
program until after Cronkite resigned.
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
After him there wasn't much to watch.
far left loon >.<
Walter Cronkite was the preeminent journalist of his time, and he remains the standard by which other reporters will be judged. Make no mistake - Hannity, O'Reilly, David Gregory, Blitzer (helleverybody at fucking CNN)aren't fit to polish Walter Cronkite's shoes. Let us cherish Bill Moyers - now sadly the last real journalist.
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
Too young to see the original, but I will forever remember the tape of Walter Cronkite announcing the death of JFK. He remained composed, but the grief is readily apparent.
For those who are interested, there is a Guest Book for condolences sponsored by Legacy.com and Newsday.
I pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of America, and to the republic which it established, one nation from many peoples, promising liberty and justice for all
like so many of the old newscasters. There is nothing in todays media that will compare with their heyday.
moments that they are playing on the TV, but what I remember most about Walter Cronkite is that he was always there. Not to get the ratings like the news programs do nowadays, but to tell the truth. Not the "fair and balanced" BS that passes for news these days where they try to present both sides of the issue especially being mindful of the corporate mindset, but the actual truth. Like when the waterways were being polluted or there was corruption or graft or a politician being less than honest. No entertainment masquerading as news. And Celebrity News was nowhere on the nightly news. It was left for the National Enquirer to cover.
Walter Cronkite earned the label of the Most Trusted Man in America.
Who can we trust now?
Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
It's tough losing someone who has been there for every news story you remember while growing up. A Reporter, with a capital R, that would make you feel better by just hearing his voice. Thank you Mr. Cronkite, the world has lost a wonderful human being. You will be missed. Rest in beautiful peace.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln
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Good Christians all, I'm sure.
seriously fucked up commenters. What's wrong with them. Cronkite gave us facts and the news as he honestly saw it, not like what the propaganda MSM does now.
Angry, sick, bitter, UGLY people
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Only when the last tree has died
and the last river has been poisoned and the last fish has been caught
will we realize we cannot eat money.
Imagine all the history that Walter has seen and reported on during the later half of the 20th century. He was and is a true American icon. Those who denigate him aren't fit to polish his microphone.
These people frighten me.
Never been to this site before; doubtful I will again.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
it's unbelievable how ignorant they all are. they may be educated, but they are just ignorant. we need to know what we are up against and people we are up against ignorance. pure and simple.http://www.lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=482543
Sick, ignorant MOTHERFUCKERS!!! They think he HELPED the VC by, what?...Telling the TRUTH???!!! These IDIOTS actually WANT to be LIED TO!!! I will NEVER understand the wingnut mentality. What Bible do these morons READ, anyway! I'd say they're disgusting pigs, but that would really be a huge insult to all the pigs in the world!
handle the truth!
Not only can they not handle the truth, there is a disconnect from reality thing going on. I see it in my sister and her husband.
"And that's the way it is..."
WWII, JFK assasination, Vietnam, Watergate. Walter Cronkite paved the way to what once was and should have remained an excellent on air news media.
The thought makes me miss him even more.
http://americannewsproject.com/
both could take lessons from walter's tapes in how to have ethics and actually become jounalists. Walter was a journalist by whom all others were measured and today's crops comes up very short. rest in peace walter, your job is truly done and you've done a damned good job.
Stretch and Katie are making the big bucks. Cronkite didn't make the huge overblown salaries the 'news stars' make these days. So, if you went to journalism school which would you choose? Tell the truth the best you know it to be, or be a high paid whore?
if they reported the news and had the exposure they would be making high salaries even today because they would be getting the ratings.
Some of them might want to, so someone else is obviously stopping them. Wonder who that could be? Hmmm... who would be interested in stiffling news???
far left loon >.<
Hmmmm, uhh, I vote corporations. Do I win a prize?
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I am sorry that I was born too late to have really experienced true journalistic integrity such as yours.
And since we're on the grandfather subject, my Mexican grandpa looked like a brown-skinned Vincent Price! :) And he was quite a character too. One of the last times I got to talk to him I found out he'd gotten in a big (physical) fight with other men at the ripe old age of 78. I was really exasperated at the time because I was 18 and couldn't understand how someone's great great grandpa could get himself into trouble like that!
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far left loon >.<
Thanks for the link Edwin. Great site. I certainly agree about Mr. Cronkite, we will never see a 'real' journalist like this man ever again. Corporate boardrooms have made sure of that.
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far left loon >.<
Thank You.
Mr Cronkite personified America.
Be proud. You have every right to be.
My sincerest condolences.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
Looks like the apollo sceptics have a whole new chapter to write now that photos of the landing sites are streaming back from the moon, footprints and all!
"Government by organized money is just as dangerous as Government by organized mob"
-= Franklin Delano Roosevelt =-
Cronkite was a man of honor , integrity and principles , people trusted and respected the man and we counted on him and a handful of others , he couldn't be bought or sold . Journalism and reporting were respected professions back in his day , they were honorable and respectable men you could trust , we the people had a protector , a watch dog . I have zero respect for the pathetic farce that journalists , reporters and news organizations are today , for the most part they are not even worthy to talk about Cronkite and they have no clue , a pack of unprincipled self serving whores much like our current generation of politicians , and then there is Fox news , an absolute disgrace with a following of the most ignorant , irrational pea brains on planet earth . This country and the world would be in much better shape if the news was really news like it used to be and if guys like Cronkite were running news organizations . It sucks getting up in years , I ain't digging it at all , it's depressing watching your country go to hell and at the same time watching so many you grew up with die off .
Insanity , it is what it is , there is no understanding it .
"Professional Journalism ought to be about telling people what they NEED to know, not what they WANT to know. We MUST be responsible, if we're going to have the informed public that we NEED to have, to make this democracy work." --Walter Cronkite
Hear that, FAUX News???????
Fox propaganda channel and friends.
second great reply you've made to my posts TODAY, ron!
what was the 1st?
I make a lot of great replies, so it's hard to keep track.
the wingnut inability to be able to deal with facts! You know, the Nicholson thing: "They can't HANDLE the truth!"
That was tonight. It's pretty much a fact. I was thinking of Nicholson when I said it.
The thing is that Nicholson would have been todays rightwinger.
Hear that, MSNBC, CNN, CBS, NET and the rest of this bunch of rogues.
The fact that he was such a trusted reporter of the news was underscored even more by his compelling voice.........He could truly calm a nation of listeners with his voice, while imparting the truths they needed to hear! He will be sorely missed by all of us who were fortunate enough to have listened to him for many years.
A tremendous loss and a greater legacy.
An era when you didn't have to call a journalist a shill because he said something you disagree with. When Walter told me something I didn't want to hear, I still believed it was his best judgement. He was a great man that was a cornerstone for truth in the country and it's sad there's no one to take his place.
that would like to step up and fill his shoes , however msm will never let this happen again , RIP Walter Cronkite i know if ever we have truth in media again , there will be others to honor you and who you would be proud of .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
That's the way it is. That's the way it was but I don't think that's the way it will ever be again.
RIP Mr. Cronkite
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Matt Taibbi linked to this clip, posted by Tyler Durden at Zero Hedge:
http://*******.com/nwmqjv
I want to see this dude tear Neil Cavuto a new one!
OK, ******* links no longer work. Here's the full link: http://www.zerohedge.com/article/max-keiser-g...
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
has also just been called anti-semitic for his opinion of G/S wonder where that came from .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
just died , Henry Allingham 113 years old .
I remember going over to my grandfather's , brothers house about 1952? ( would that make him my grand uncle ? ) he was a pilot in WW 1 and he had these 2-3 inch bomb shaped projectiles that they would throw out of the planes at the Germans . He had all this stuff all over the house and as a kid i loved it , but my neighbor ( Gladys Hewitt ) had this incredible rock collection and her own ultra-violet room and for me that was far more interesting .
To this day I will pick mineralogy over warfare any day . Never will i forget that which has given the most benifit in this life .
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
Thanks for sharing that Dnyknot. I think I'll dedicate this one to Henry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqFoqtpUFY8
If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.
George Carlin
Someday maybe we will see the end of war , and still be alive , thanks for posting that .
dn
every time you throw a little mud , you lose a little ground .
The passing of yet another icon of truth, integrity, hard work, and..............all the freedoms we have lost over the last 30yrs. comes into sharp contrast. This soft coup de tat in the USofBLOODYISRAEL, is nauseating. Yes, that is what Bush2000 ushered in. Dumbing down of Americans? check! Looting the Treasury? Check. At least in Burma they know who the perps are.
some saturday morning cartoons...
it's storytime in 1968 with terry gilliam.
here's ow, my ballz, from idiocracy.
roddy piper finds sunglasses that enable him to see how things really are in they live.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090718/ap_on_fe_...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
:D
me-oww!
because this little tome leaves out the fact that Cronkite came out against the sickening war in Vietnam.
That's how he came to be "trusted". He was more than a salesman.
MSNBC left that out because they are gutless wonders.
The war in Iraq. They enabled it as much as CNN and Fox and the rest of those worthless freaks.
And they still do.
When it comes to war, they do their job. They sell it.
So they leave out the one fact that exalted Cronkite.
He has some integrity.
All they do is read what is put before them and look pretty.
I was only around to catch the tail end of Walter Cronkite's career, but through it all he kept it classy and dignified to the end. It's an end of an era, he will be sorely missed.
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