Palin Charged State of Alaska For Children's Travel Expenses
By Nicole Belle Wednesday Oct 22, 2008 12:30pm
Gov. Sarah Palin charged the state for her children to travel with her, including to events where they were not invited, and later amended expense reports to specify that they were on official business.
The charges included costs for hotel and commercial flights for three daughters to join Palin to watch their father in a snowmobile race, and a trip to New York, where the governor attended a five-hour conference and stayed with 17-year-old Bristol for five days and four nights in a luxury hotel.
In all, Palin has charged the state $21,012 for her three daughters' 64 one-way and 12 round-trip commercial flights since she took office in December 2006. In some other cases, she has charged the state for hotel rooms for the girls.Alaska law does not specifically address expenses for a governor's children. The law allows for payment of expenses for anyone conducting official state business.[..]
State Finance Director Kim Garnero told The Associated Press she has not reviewed the Palins' travel expense forms, so she could not say whether the daughters' travel with their mother would meet the definition of official business.[..]
When Palin released her family's tax records as part of her vice presidential campaign, some tax experts questioned why she did not report the children's state travel reimbursements as income.
The Palins released a review by a Washington attorney who said state law allows the children's travel expenses to be reimbursed and not taxed when they conduct official state business.[..]
In addition to the commercial flights, the children have traveled dozens of times with Palin on a state plane. For these flights, the total cost of operating the plane, at $971 an hour, was about $55,000, according to state flight logs. The cost of operating the state plane does not increase when the children join their mother. [..]
The state is already reviewing nearly $17,000 in per diem payments to Palin for more than 300 nights she slept at her own home, 40 miles from her satellite office in Anchorage.
The Palins are already in some trouble for owing back taxes and there are those who say that this is definitely taxable income that the Palins would need to declare. Marcy Wheeler recounts that even the McCain campaign is uncomfortable with Palin's insistence on having her kids accompany her everywhere, even campaign meetings.
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It's good to be Queen.
With all the closet queens in the GOP she better hold on tight to that crown.
First come first served when she donates her 150K wardrobe to the GOP needy. I hear there's bickering over who gets the leather.
Hello ... Alaska law does not prohibit this. Is she not supposed to take her children with her?
There are so many real points on which to attach Governon Palin that this just looks desperate and weakens the strength of more legitimate criticisms (by giving conservatives ammunition for arguments that the attacks on Governor Palin are all this petty).
Corrupt to the core you betcha wink wink!
She's a proven power-abuser of the highest credentials. http://www.filthyrichmond.com/
I've said from the beginning, she is nothing more than an opportunist. She wouldn't have accepted the spot on the ticket if she wasn't. She sees everything as an opportunity for herself and that is all she sees or cares about. Just one more slick talking, know nothing, republican.
I AGREE WITH YOU TOTALLY. I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER. SHE'S SUCH A LIAR. THOSE VOTING FOR THE MCCAIN/PALIN TICKET AREN'T ABSORBING WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING, NOR WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO THIS COUNTRY IF PALIN GETS INTO THE WHITE HOUSE. SHE'S ABOUT SELF, AND WILL SAY OR DO ANYTHING TO GET AHEAD. PALIN IS VERY DANGEROUS.
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Ever notice how her kids always look shell shocked and pissed?
she brings them along as props
Exactly!
How many stages have you seen Obama's little girls on? The night he accepted the Dem. nomination was the only one I recall.
Yea, using your kids as political pawns, Republican family values you betcha!
..loved Baracks kids!
Barack could go a long way to soften his political image by bringing his lovely family into his campaign more often, but the man has real integrity. He understands that the world of top level U.S. politics is no place for innocent, unassuming people, let alone children.
unlike palins
they have all missed at least a month and a half of school
they are too busy on shopping sprees bankrolled by the rnc
She did some speech just the other day, carrying her youngest in front of her. She was carrying her not how you normally carry a baby, just so he/she (I dont' care which) was facing the audience. Just trotted the baby out there for the photo op. Very sad.
in that fashion? i dont think so
i still dont believe that trig is her baby
I guess props are entitled to reimbursement fromt he state?
Have you seen the pictures of Pipper flipping people off?
Who taught her that?
She brings them along to excite the pedophile Republican base.
..............sometimes more than others ! -
http://tinyurl.com/5mq4az
Sarah the Socialist. She expects taxpayers to pay for her children. Or maybe she is just a welfare queen
None of this shit would be allowed to happen if this were Obama or his wife. Hypocrisy occurs in this campaign EVERYDAY.
I want Palin to run as VP every four years. A gift that will keep on giving.
Has anyone noticed when you remove the L from Palin you wind
up with PAIN? Haven't we the American citizens had enough PAIN
the last almost 8 years ?
While this excess is sickening, and just more proof of who she truly is, there is always a danger in going after someone by using their children (or the children's expense account) in that the uber-right can now respond saying how the left is clearly "against children" or whatever other idiotic claim they will make. If it is not expressly forbidden, tread lightly, or the blowback could be dangerous. To put it another way, if she could look at the Branchflower report and conclude that she "did nothing wrong or improper", then guess what she and her idiot followers are going to make of this.
This from Daily Kos http://www.dailykos.com/
Andrew Sullivan asks, "How anti-intellectual is Palin?"
Here's one way to look at the question: how has Palin brought up her own kids? Her eldest son is a high-school drop-out. Her eldest daughter has had, so far as one can tell from press reports, very uneven attendance in high school, and no plans for college. Her other daughters seem to spend a lot of time traveling the country with their mom at tax-payers' expense. I've seen them at several rallies with the Palins this fall. Are they not in school?
The least one can say is that none of her children seems to have been brought up thinking that college is something to aspire to. And her new son-in-law just dropped out of high school as well. http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_dai...
Sarah Palin's own record of several colleges over several years - ending with a degree in sports journalism - tells you a lot.
Well doesn't this explain why she is viewed as a moron. And the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. It's all about her opportunities, no one else matter. Not even her kids. Palin is a disgrace. I have no respect for that woman.
Aren't her kids home schooled?
This manipulative, evil woman will be worse than Dumbya if we let her enter the White House with McCorpse.
I get this horrible, sinking feeling every time I hear her. That she might, just might, end up in office as the VP. GOD!! Please let this be some stupid nightmare that our country wakes up from. I am not a religious man, but I am praying that we will come to our senses. I'll make a sacrifice to the Flying Spaghetti Monster if I have to ..PLEASE..
Your offerings of Parmesan and marinara would be greatly appreciated.
And tasty too.
This would truly be a national nightmare. I've been fighting high blood pressure and depression since 2000. I fear a mccain/palin win would truly be the end of me.
Why is this a big issue? This is going to come across as picking on her family. She handed us all a 150,000 softball. Use that instead.
This does show a lot about her character. The expense reports, the per diem allowance.
She also receives $22,400 from the state for her family of 7, ($3,200 per person, remember).
These, along with TrooperGate and God know what else are all abuses of power. They also illustrate a sickening sense of entitlement.
She takes kick-backs from contractors to build her house. She would have taken the $150k in clothing and accessories too, without paying any taxes on any of it, had ths story not broken.
She's a thief, the first dud is a thief, and her kids are or will be thieves!
Because some of us work our asses off and don't make $21k a year- and that's before taxes!
she took the taxpayer's money to fly her kids around the country
tony knowles, the former alaskan gov, also had school aged children...they did not travel with him
the one time they did...he paid for it
she is a crook
If one uses one's children as fashion accessories and stage props, they are going to get picked on. I'll be the first to do it. Military kid and preggers daughter are old enough to put their foot down. Unfortunately, her children are perfect living examples of the very worst traits of hockey bitch and first doooood. High school drop-out straight to the military, knocked up high school drop-out on her way to a miserable life with high school drop-out husband. Sad that the children aren't going to escape the loser life course their loser parents have set them on. I'd be frantic and depressed if my daughter had chosen these paths.
Pick on the kids? You betcha.
Hey big spender..... This chick has turned out to be so much worse than I had ever thought she would be. I knew she was a nut-case conservative from the get go because McCain needed to shore up that hole in the dam; however, she is so much more. She's a waster of money, a liar, a socialist, a secessionist, a poor administrator, a virtual shut-in as far as foreign policy goes.....
The list just goes on and on.
She's a criminal, she's being investigated still, she's a fan a nepotism, she's more derisive than Bush, she's more power hungry than Cheney.....
Please stop me when I say something that isn't true.
She uses her children as props, she thinks gods will is guiding he (I wish I had the Bat Phone to God like she does), She spends 18902345734879 on cloths while talking about "regular people". She was elected mayor to save Wasilla money --- failed big time there.
This chick is just such an awful choice. Biden needs to get out there and start nailing her (metaphorically) or at least get some surrogates to start hitting her hard on all of her lies.
to your sullying of the term "socialist".
Yeah, it was a jab at her; however, I can see how socialist around the world would be upset. Socialists just have to recognize Palin IS a socialist; however, she's still in the closet. It's like she's gay only different.
on the Republikkkan Welfare Circuit when she and McGramps lose election.
of Palin's stand against wasteful government spending.
No - wait. When her family benefits it isn't wasteful. My bad.
Her spending of $150,000 is a stimulis for the economy, can't
say she isn't doing her part.
I want to be generous with Sarah (she's so purdy), but it sounds like
fraud to me.
..is just amazing. I'm assuming it's the real deal and not Photoshopped...?
Wow.
piper is the coolest of the bunch. they might want to put her in charge.
Such as, when is the next TrooperGate report coming out?
This issue of Palin hauling her children around has been somewhat of a flag of sorts to me for some time.WHY would a mother voluntarily trudge around her brood,when uninvited,and when doing so invites uninvited inquiry. Of especial ofensiveness is the sclepping around of the younest child,Trig. This is just an observation, but with the eception of Trig, is it possible that Sarah and her husband are concerned that if let behind in Wasilla, the children's loose lips might sink some GOP ships?
It's just a chance at some free travel, seeing the country at somebody else's expense, that she knows they won't have again.
It is a way to appeal to the radical right-wing american taliban base. Again, they're just props.
Why would a mother bring her daughter on the ice only to be heavily boo'd. Really. The woman has no sense and certainly no sense of shame.
She brought her daughter on the ice in Philly to use her as a human shield. If little Pantomime (or whatever her name is) wasn't there Bible Spice would have been pelted with garbage.
Bible Spice! Lol!
I thought it was Little Ptomaine.
is waxing Napoleonic.
I thought he was carrying. A person could get shot in my neighborhood when they reach like that.
"But honest, officer. I saw a Moose!"
that with all her faults, she's small-time in terms of misdeeds compared with the crew currently in power.
However, petty thieves and thugs can easily become major ones when they are given access to power. Never underestimate the ruthlessness, greed, and delusional mindset of someone like Palin ( and her douchenozzle husband ) no matter how anti-intellectual and well...simple she is. SAY HELLO TO MY LITTLE FRIEND!!!!
So many scandals, so little time.
These stories just get so tiresome, particularly when they are about great reformers. Given how much these clowns loved to give various bills cute names, I'd love to see someone propose some new bills that address fraud and other such corruption, and call it "The Sarah Palin Reform Act" or something cute like that. ;) Seriously, they have enough fun at everyone else's expense so why shouldn't we have some at their's? ;)
My husband co-owns with his partner his own business. Often he has to travel for business and sometimes I go with him. He bills his expenses to the company but we keep track of all my expenses and pay them ourselves out of our money. It wouldn't be fair or honest for the company to pick up my tab.
So why is it fair of her to take her family with her everywhere and expect her state to foot the bill. That isn't fair either.
This is why she makes such a fabulous repug. She KNOWS that the public owes her all of these "benefits" just for being the super person that she is!
When my husband travels to Europe for business we pay for my expenses if I go along. If our daughter goes, same deal. Sometimes I work there as well and my expenses are paid from my ticket sales. We just coordinate the dates so we can manage to have some time together.
I guess when you're a musician you work honestly. When you're a politician the taxpayers pay for your family time. Yeah, she's a real "maverick" all right and I'm sure she'll make a great stand against wasteful spending. When it doesn't benefit her family.
Long before she stood up to Republican cronies and "the good old boys" of Alaska, Palin stood up to Carney, a colleague on Wasilla's city council. As Kaylene Johnson explains in her sympathetic biography, Sarah, Carney had the gall to propose an ordinance giving his own company the city contract for garbage removal. In Johnson's telling, it was the first time Palin bravely spoke truth to power: "'I said no and I voted no,' Sarah said.
. . . The episode might serve as a compelling, if small-bore, example of Palin's reformer instincts. Except that, according to those who were present, Carney wasn't quite the crooked trash magnate Palin makes him out to be. For one thing, Carney couldn't have proposed the ordinance because he'd recused himself from the matter.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_dai...
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Sounds an awful lot like "Thanks, but no thanks."
"I said 'thanks, but no....,' wait, never mind.
Charging the taxpayers for your children's travel: $21,000.
Clothes for personal appearances from supporters: $150,000.
Being a maverick, every-day hockey mom: Priceless.
Don't get me wrong, I'm voting Obama and I think Palin is a very special brand of crazy but who cares about this.
Seriously, this is so amazingly insignificant to things that should be discussed.
It is called character
Seriously though, taking your family with you on business trips isn't something that i'd point a finger for. This might just be my opinion, and I respect someone who would be offended by this but there are a lot of other issues that we can focus on that will seem less petty.
The practice of turning expense reports in for the children is unethical. The state reimburses state employees for state business.
Why aren't these children in school? Do you think it is entertaining for a child to be bored to tears at a political event?
I work for my home state. I got docked one time in my reimbursement check $14.00 on mileage because I didn't take what was considered the shortest route available on my return trip. There is no example I can think of where I could charge expenses for my kids to go with me on state business - much less $21,000.00 worth. As a state employee that is absolutely unbelievable.
She thinks it's OK to get away with whatever she can. I hope Alaska's taxpayers nail her on this misuse of their hard-earned money. Is this an example of Palin exceptionalism?
I think this is just a little comedy relief after a long day. Everyone has to take a time out sometime
It is significant because I don't want to foot the bill for this woman and her litter if she were to be - ACK! - president one day.
She's running on a holier than Obama platform. This along with the other 94759348750 contradictory things she's done flies in
It's not all that "insignificant" when she wants to use the failed social experiment of her family as a model for the rest of us.
Actually, I think it's kinda nice that she took her kids with her. Whether or not it's acceptable for the taxpayers of Alaska to pay for the children's expenses is really up to the taxpayers of Alaska.
It isn't acceptable at all, which is the whole point here. The state does not allow it. Reimbursements are for official business only and the kids are not required attendants at any of these state affairs.
reliable sources have found that her children were NOT invited to most of those events. The organizers were contacted by Palin and told her children would be attending. Some organizers were uncomfortable with this, but were given no choice and told it was the family or nothing.
Are we starting to see a pattern here? $21K for air fare... A few thousand for a 4 night stay in NYC... $150K for a dress... None of on her own dime. Nice gig. Wait until she becomes VP... We're going to need a Sarah bailout.
..for attempting to bring Palin to Washington in the first place.
I'll start going naked.
Threat or promise?
4 day stay was for a 5 hour conference.
She and Bristol had their own hotel room ($700 per night) reimbursed.
They surely aren't holding to their constant garble about cutting expenses and saving America money! It's Obama that's going to do all that spending.
Do hope the good people of Alaska attempt to recall her as governor now that all this extravagance for her children and herself, like charging the state for per diem when it's her choice to drive 40 miles to stay in her own home, are coming to light. All she is, is an over zealous opportunist.
keep your friends close and your sexually active but pill-less teenage daughter closer.
Is this not FRAUD? And is not Fraud ILLEGAL? And should not this woman be arrested for it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_DXa3rFyUU
It certainly could be looked at that way if you add everything up.
Bogus expense reports for reimbursement for the children's travel.
Bogus per diem requests for living in her own home.
Then there are the questions of character:
Add the above to the abuses of power, the Bridge to Nowhere BS and the rest of her narrative and you see a trend. No character, questionable ethics, a sense of entitlement.
Poop on the state.
My great-great-great-great (an maybe then some), grand-uncle must be rolling in his grave.
)O(
Hey, why isn't the little girl putting her hand over her heart? Why is Sarah teaching her kids to hate America? Oh, right- she's a secessionist.
Maybe she is tired of being pulled out of school and away from her friends to further her mother's career.
You must give her credit. Although she will not overwhelm you with her basic intelligence, she does have a certain rat-like cunning when it comes to working the angles.
what do you know
we have
CHENEY WITH A VIRGINA !!!!!
I think I've got relatives living in the great state of Virgina.
Or is it a repubelic?
you mean vagina
The city had traditionally put up part of the purse for the Iron Dog competition--the grueling, 2,000-mile snow machine race that usually starts in Wasilla--and one year the council considered upping its ante. (First prize could be tens of thousands of dollars.) When a colleague pointed out that Palin should recuse herself because her husband was a perennial Iron Dog contender, she protested, "I don't think I have a conflict of interest here because Todd won it last year. There's no guarantee that he's going to win it this year." As others chimed in to explain the problem, Palin dug in her heels. "Well, it could be perceived that way, but it isn't," she harrumphed. http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=8c1...
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they will ask you why you hated america before today
btw, obama is only half black
but its a start
I don't know what happened or why you were banned, but I bet that comment just might make you welcome again.
I love you too. I love anyone who has the spine to stand up and say they were wrong. Every citizen in this country needs to do that in order for the healing to begin.
Obama's campaign is about Change and paradigm shifts. Always great to have Free Thinkers in our midsts.
Be sure and catch the first 15 minutes of Hardball tonight. Chris rips into Palin over her false belief that the veep is in charge of the Senate and he does it with giraffe woman, Nancy Pfotenhauer. He leaves Nancy deflated.
they try to bring up john adams as an example that the vp can run the senate
seems none of them spend time studying their history
the senate wanted to hang adams for his interfering in their affairs
they made fun of him....derided him....berated him
the vp does not run the senate
That's what Chris was talking about. He brought up the series, John Adams that was recently on and said if anyone saw that they would understand that the veep did not run the senate.
or read the books the series was based on
or read adam's letters to his wife where he complains about the vp position
cuz they keep citing adams
i really hope that america is tired of the ignorance of the right side of the aisle
and im sure that adams is rolling in his grave right now, having palin's name mentioned in conjunction with his
adams was a genius...he would run circles around all the candidates currently running
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/22/...
While working for the Air Force in Europe, I saw the differance between what we did and what Sarah Palin does. Anytime we had to go to Iraq on business we got danger pay. If you were only in Iraq for one day, you received danger pay for the entire month. It didn't take long for a few people to figure out if you went there on the last day of the month and stayed for an extra day, you were entitled to two months danger pay. It also didn't take long for the chain of command to figure out that the Air Force was spending money it did not have to spend and put a stop to those kind of schedules. Palin is taking advantage of the system in so many ways. There should be some clarifying legislation to put a stop to these abuses.
people in the armed services are woefully underpaid...i do not begrudge any of them using the system to eek out a few extra bucks
palin has lied about her attacking big spending
she cut programs for unwed teen mothers...then spent the monies on herself and her family
again i urge everyone to watch the gov debate from 06....the woman has no soul...she truly is a barbie doll
We know two seriously republican couples and each couple will game anything to get more than they deserve. It must be something in the red blood stream or something.
Hey! Sarah's kids, whom she pimps everywhere-all the time, are off limits.
Even if Born-Again Mama is committing acts of fraud with them.
This is another example that Palin is just another corrupt, power-hungry politician. I can't wait to hear her talk more about "cleaning up Washington," LOL!
So, it is wrong to support Palin for spending tax dollars to travel with her family . . . but it is okay for Obama to campaign for Odinga during his world tour? For those who don't know, Odinga is the prime minister in Kenya whose rise to power through inciting riots ultimately resulted in the death of 1,500 people. Odinga’s campaign was for radical socialist change with wealth distribution in Kenya.
You might be the "smarter" trools we've heard so much about...
Just wow...I am SOOOO impressed.
Cuz, yeah, that's right. It's unethical to spend state money to benefit yourself or your family when you are in a post of fiduciary responsibility.
Big words, but you can look 'em up...
SOCIALISM FOR ME... NOT FOR THEE...
LET 'EM SHOP WALMART
Political leaders are spending the taxpayers money like it was their own; similarly to the corporate CEO's use of the stock holder's revenue.
WE the PEOPLE and WE the consumers and investors pay these looter's sufficient SALARIES as GATEkeepers to our TAX TREASURY and INVESTMENTs to make sure that they HAVE food on their table and a roof over their head. WHAT DO WE GET in return? a FAILED ECONOMY and lost of government credibility.
GREEDINESS has no boundaries. It time to shine reality to these shameless people.
It's not like she is on State of Alaska business.
Just asw the Palin porno. Couldn't stop laughing when she kept screaming,"DRILL BABY,DRILL !!!".
Something tells me that the $150,000 worth of clothing, paid for by the RNC is considered as a gift by the IRS. Sweet Sista Sarah may think she has hit the Jackpot, but it will probably become a taxable "Crock Pot". Maybe she should just "rent" the crap.
Because I just couldn't say it better myself, this from Daily Kos:
http://www.dailykos.com/
Sarah Palin, freeloader.
by Kagro X
Wed Oct 22, 2008 at 10:25:03 AM PDT
$150,000 shopping sprees (at all the best "elitist" shops, no less), on the Republican National Committee tab.
$21,012 worth of free flights for her daughters, charged to the state.
All this, when she already makes $125,000 a year as governor and pockets an extra $22,883 in energy extraction royalties.
Sarah Palin is a chisler supreme.
All of which makes the fact that she charged $16,951 in expenses charged to the state, including 312 per diem allowances for staying in her own home just that much more amazing.
A dual income family, with Sarah earning $125K. Free travel (even for the family), and now free clothes, hair and makeup. They can actually go out in her backyard and shoot a moose, keeping her family in free mooseburger for a year. And still she feels the need to cheat. Shoot that moose for free and still charge the state $60 per burger. And she claims she deserves every bit of it.
Now that's what I call a perverse sense of entitlement.
"Sounds like socialism to me," to borrow a phrase.
Just another fake "bootstrapper" Republican. What a shocker.
Meanwhile, we all have to endure the indignity of Palin turning the campaign for the Vice Presidency into some kind of FOX reality TV makeover show, where they take some ridiculously not-ready-for-prime-time pol and dress her up, push her out on the stage, and see if they can turn her into a VP in 10 weeks.
What the hell, right? It's just being second in line to the nuclear launch codes. No big thing. We could even do a whole copromotional deal with moose sandwiches at Subway.
Thanks, Republicans. You sure do love our country n' stuff.
Since sarah Palin makes 125,000 a year a govornor, shouldn't she fellow in McCain and the republican footstraps and only accept 70% of the paid, since their party is against equal paid for women?
she should be getting 87,500, which is 70% of her 125,000 salary, maybe that shall encourage her to support equal paid for women.
Palin: "We are all struggling and suffering in this economy. Now watch me buy this new dress and plain tickets with taxpayer money."
It seems Palin's kids have missed a lot of school going on all these trips with their mom. I'm wondering why the dad couldn't watch the girls when she had to go on these trips. Also, the oldest one, Twig, is on the campaign trail with her mom quite a bit these days. This is a bit alarming for two reasons: 1) I read she was 17 and still in high school, so she must be absent a lot. 2) Since she is pregnant, is it really wise for her mom to be dragging her along and subjecting the girl to the grueling demands of the campaign?
Then why the hell aren't her kids in SCHOOL!
I find it quite odd that the press hasn't run wild with this.
Get on it Olbermann...Maddow...Matthews...SOMEBODY!!!
shameful purchase when so much else is needed.
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