LA Wild Fires
With the Santa Ana winds kicking up this fire raging in Sylmar is very dangerous.
UPDATE: I was just outside for some coffee and it's ugly. The sky is tinted with a weird shade of orange from the smoke and breathing is very difficult.
Officials are reporting that we could have serious power outages in LA.
Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger issued an emergency declaration for the Sayre fire in Los Angeles, while Mayor Antonio Villaraigosa declared a state of local emergency Saturday. An estimated 10,000 residents have been evacuated from the Sylmar area, according to the Los Angeles Fire Department as the fire continued to burn Saturday, with ten-percent containment.
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The Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (LADWP) had to take several power lines out of service starting at 5 a.m.. Saturday as the fire moved toward the I-5. All in-basin natural plants were activated by the LADWP by 6:30 a.m. From 9:40am - 10:05 a.m. areas throughout the Valley and Southern California - including Sherman Oaks, Mid City, Crenshaw and Harbor City experienced rolling black outs. Power was restored to those areas thereafter. According to Joe Ramallo, DWP, approximately 1,000 customers remained without power in the fire-ridden areas.
This blaze comes just 24 hours after massive fires broke in both Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo.
For more information and the latest updates on the Sayre Fire, residents should call the LA Fire Department hotline at: (800) 439-2909.
When I felt it was unbelievable for Cali to have wildfires in October. Now the drought's pushed them to December. Global warming's a bitch.
Yeah, I was all concerned about the fires so I called the boys.
They're in Venice Beach chillin' out getting ready to watch a UCLA football game with the usual gang of idiots.
"It's all good." "We're heading out for a short bike ride down the Venice Boardwalk up to Santa Monica and back for half-time. Peace out late."
O....kay......
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
That part of the beauty of living on the coast. You don't have to worry too much. Still gotta be careful though. It is Calif.
There is some else around here, that posts out of Venice.
I can't remember his name right now. But I'm sure you know him.
It'll come to me soon.:)
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Is it LAConfidential?
Haven't heard from him in a while.
Aw-oh.....
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Global warming? If you listen to CONservative morons, there is no global warming with my weather forecast for my area:
SundayDay: Flurries and local snow squalls. Wind north 30 km/h. High plus 2.
Night: Flurries and local snow squalls. Local amount 5 to 10 cm. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light in the evening. Low minus 3.
This had to happen. Nobody could have stopped it, only delayed it. Conservatives say humans can't affect things on a large scale? HAH!! Tell that to Californians and anyone that lives on the Mississippi River.
The Santa Ana winds blow every fall in California and it is always when the big fires burn. Most of Southern California is chaparral and semi-arid desert and the plants that grow there are made to burn. It is also the driest part of the year because the winter rains generally don't fall until after Thanksgiving or later. Without the Santa Ana Winds most of these fire would be knocked out very quickly but when you have near hurricane force winds coupled with dry grass and chaparral it doesn't take much to turn the whole place into an inferno. Some years the fires don't stop until we get a storm. And, of course, when the winter storms do show up, that's when we get the mudslides.
I'm not saying that climate change hasn't effected our planet but it probably doesn't have much to do with So Cal being on fire.
That's pretty ugly. Take care of yourselves out there. Hope that thing stays well away from you. We are well aware of the "joys" of wildfires here in western Montana, but at least our fire season is over by late September.
Here in Connecticut, there's been lots of rain.
Can we have some please??
water is a precious commodity in socal...yet it hasnt been treated as such
we should be in a drought situation every year....yet we are not
kills me to watch people and gardners using water to wash down a front walk or driveway....it shouldnt be allowed
our infrastucture is falling apart, and i dont know the last resevoir that was built in this state
it is time that the gov and the legislature sit down and write new policy
also...wtf is wrong with people not cutting down overgrowth around their homes??? idiots
I get tired of our wasteful lawn culture, and people who overpay to live near inflammable brush, too-especially since the latter group tends to vote against services for L.A., but demands we bail them out of fires.
The earth conscious people I know here in Los Angeles are turning to native plants and desert or rock gardens rather than lawns that suck up water. It's so cool! There's not nearly enough folks doing it but I'm seeing more yards like that all the time.
CAn't stand all the water wasted on golf courses and I love the people in my neighborhood who just let their lawns go yellow if it's not raining :)
Then there is the sprinklers that go off even when it IS raining or that basically water the sidewalk and street. SUCH a waste.
We are in drought but you'd never know it as no one is asked to conserve. It's crazy.
Although this is a tragedy. We're used to this kinda thing.
The power outage coming is a huge difference though.
Usually when we get earthquakes, we get that kind of result.
Good luck to you folks down there. It's Hot here in Monterey.
Which is something we're not used to.
It wouldn't take much to set this place ablaze again.
We owe the firefighters a Great Big Thank You.
Without them, we'd be screwed.
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They are amazing. I was out at Hansen Dam a few weeks ago for a hike when the fire was starting up in the hills there - and we watched the fire helicopters come down & suck water out of the lake. Pretty exciting stuff. That is a HELL of a LOT of work, going back and forth that fast & dumping the water. There were 4 of them at a time, pretty amazing to see.
God is punishing California for passing Prop 8. Kidding. But I'm sure this would be said if Prop 8 had failed.
but true.
I will probably get some flack for this, but I say let it burn.
I agree that it is terrible for the communities, and really I hope everybody is safe.
But we must take a look at the nation's fire safety policy, not only from the standpoint of the safety of people, but from a long term plan for house development in fire prone (i.e. wilderness) areas and environmental science. We all know these fires happen naturally, but for generations we have not let them burn. This is why they grow bigger and stronger every year, and although global warming has a small role in this rise our wildfire policy is the main culprit. For once, can't the US take into account the opinions of environmental scientists, atmosphere scientists, and forestry scientist (and many others who have insight on this topic) into account when developing policy, such as house building standards, fire protections, land development, and firefighting?
I have a lot of friends who are season forest firefighters, and let me tell you they are proud of their work, but many also question the long term effects of their work. What doesn't get burned this year will burn next year. This fact needs to be considered.
For some more insight, the National Geographic article from this past summer is a good start.
Huge numbers of plants in the state have to burn in order to live. It's part of their seed spreading cycle. It's less than pointless to try and stop the burns. The dry plants will just pile up higher and the inevitable fire will just get bigger. Feeding the firepit before setting it ablaze is still feeding the fire.
Some plants even start the fires, to assist in the process.
Surely you've heard of the napalm!
Although what you are saying is true. In fact, they stopped putting out fires in some forests decades ago when they discovered that sequoias couldn't pop their seeds w/out fire!
We are building where we shouldn't be building. But developers always find a way, whether it's safe or not. This will keep happening as long as people live in volatile places.
thats my point! this is where our government can come in and do whats is of a greater good for our society and our environment. We have building inspectors to make sure your light switches are fire proof, why can't we have building inspectors make sure house are built fire proof, or land or zoning codes that do not allow developers to build in wild forests.
as for fire fighting, I agree, some areas have caught on to letting fires burn, but the more people move into the forest, the harder this becomes. Here is where a stand needs to be taken, if you build a house in the wilderness, you can't expect thousands of dollars spent on fire protection for your house, if you do not take the proper precautions, or take the risk. the occurrence of fires has become expected, this should be taken into account when one is building their wilderness gateway with matchsticks. So for the current situation, I say evacuate, and let the houses be destroyed (similar to what happens in hurricanes).
I live in Colorado, where there is some forest fires, but snow danger is more important. When someone is building a house or hut in the wilderness, the first thing any inspector looks for is if its in an avalanche zone. If it is, good luck getting a permit. Why can't this be applied to development? Here, as I am sure everywhere else, people worry about fires getting close to their homes not only for the safety of their house but also for their property value (obviously value drops when your landscape is charred). I suspect this is also the case in CA, and this too drives the expensive firefighting efforts.
Most Sequoias are still doomed. They've been dwindling for decades.
National Guard units used to help out with things like this, but they're all in Iraq. They volunteered to be fighting fires and handling other state emergencies,
but I forgot,
Guardsman are "trained killers getting what they asked for."
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Stationed at Fort Ord, I used to volunteer all the time to get to go fight the fires. They never let me.
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I always wanted them to do more controlled burns, but Carmel and Pacific Grove are full of pansies. "Oh no. We might get smoke over us. It'll be the end of the world. We're too rich to go elsewhere for a couple days."
Right on!
Change some of the terms and names, and the same philosophy and science can be applied to New Orleans. Who would live in a city below sea level, and next to one of the biggest rivers in the world that wants to change its course, and expect the Federal Government to step in at every storm to spend, and spend....?
Only in America.
Change!
I lived through a 2-week blackout in Astoria, Queens, NYC, a couple of summers ago, two blocks from a gigantic Con Edison power plant... we continue to degrade to the level of a third-world nation, in terms of our infrastructure, class mobility, distance between richest and poorest, etc.
It's possible President Obama can do something about this... IF there's anything left by the time Bush leaves office!
Wildfires, mudslides. Jesus! Everytime you turn around something else is going wrong. I hope everybody is safe. Global Warming is rearing it's ugly head. We, as a nation, are going to have to come together and find solutions or we are all doomed.
I've lived here in LA for 12 years, and the past 5 have been markedly different. We actually did used to have 4 seasons, and it used to get cold in the late fall & winter and early spring, but now it's like summer practically all year 'round. I have my AC on today because it's 92 degrees IN NOVEMBER and last month was the hottest October on record EVER.
It's really freaking me out.
Torrance and Redondo.
This is nothing new.
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The first 7 years I was here were much cooler and there was a lot of rain. The last 5 totally different. That's normal?
I can't explain it. It's just the way it is. In the mid to late 60's there was a huge fire just north of Venice.Chattagua Blvd I believe. That year it rained heavily. Mudslides so bad it closed HiWay 1 for months.
In the mid 70's I remember I was outside at a party in Redondo, and it got so cold people had parkas on.
The surrounding mountains(San Gabriel) Had so much snow on them, that it stayed into june.
It's weird down there. It can be 80 in the afternoon, and drop below freezing at night in the mid winter.
One year hear in Monterey, It was 80 degrees at midnight. On New Years Eve.
This is Calif. Let nothing surprise you.
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That must have been around 95. Yeah, we had record amounts of rain here. In fact, we got cut off by flooding. We were an island. Same thing happened after the Loma Prieta quake.
Only it wasn't flooding, bridges collapsed and roads disappeared.
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Fred is that you?
But I'd be glad to meet you at Hennesy's in Hermosa or Manhattan for a bevy. Next time I'm down there.:)
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Had a friend that grew up in Redondo and moved up to Monterrey. Maybe you know him, he makes boomerangs!
I met a guy once who had a bunch of those. And they looked handcrafted. Does he live in Big Sur?
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I have'nt heard from him in years!
It was 64 and balmy. I walked the dog at sunset with my trench coat waving in the breeze and a light scarf on. It felt lovely. Very tropical here tonight.
We just walked up toward the ocean at 9 p.m. and it's still 60 and balmy outside. In the middle of November!
I told my friend, "This will probably be the last nice evening of the year here in the Hamptons. Enjoy it." We're expecting 20 degree nights in a few days.....
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
We won't get much rain this winter. otherwise......I'll have lots of feeding grounds.
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fires are also raging on the south end of the metropolitan area in palos verdes and brea, and corona in orange county.
In PV to?
something is definitely wrong here.
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right wingers havent tried to suggest that gay people are starting the fires because CA didnt vote down Prop 8.
Obama is elected and LA burns,, something prophetic about Chuck D and guests.
"So step and fetch this shit
For all the years we looked like clowns
The joke is over smell the smoke from all around
Burn Hollywood burn"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6MlwT1lBk0
The Indians didn't call the valley" The valley of the great red smoke" for nuthin.
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I live in Granada Hills. My band and I were playing a party last night and the whole party cleared out at once cause they all got calls saying come back home we gotta run. It's incredibly hard to breath and my car is just covered in black soot. We've had on and off power outages and we couldn't pump gas this morning cause the power was out.
I do want to say one thing. I think LA County must have some of the best firefighters in this country for fighting fires like this. Time and again they go out and do some really remarkable stuff. Their precision and discipline would make an army jealous.
too. I knew a girl from Fontana (Fontucky) who was on one of those crews in La Canada/Flintridge, and an ex "business associate" who has been on a crew up in Butte County.
God bless to all those fighting the fires!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Is there any such thing as a tame fire?
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Ha! Like driving down the road and seeing signs "fresh eggs for sale" as opposed to?
You may see a sign that says "Hundred year old eggs"
I'll work on this one.:)
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I'm puffing on a tame fire right now, but it still kicks ass!
On putting out a fire right now.
Man, It's hot here right now.
Gotts ta go quench my thirst.:)
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That there is no old growth in So Cal folks. Not like anywhere north of San Luis Obispo ( I probably screwed that up.sorry)
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Diamond Valley Lake is the newest reservoir in California. It was finished in 2004, has three dams, and is located near Hemet.
Also, there has been water rationing in California this summer. In Fresno people were not allowed to water their lawns.
usual, though I know it's the dry season. Must have been the water rationing. Curiously, municipal facilities seemed unaffected.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
I've seen enough Indian summers in the 1st two weeks of December.That I expect them to be beautiful.70's during the day, close to freezing overnight.
Late last December, maybe very Early January we had that storm here that had winds of over 74 mph. That's category 1 hurricane status. On the coast. That was weird. We get gales up to 55 mph. But nothing like last winter. And it happened after a rain spell. So tons of trees went down all over the place. That was an uncommon period of events.
Yes we've had that situation before with alot of rain and high winds.
But not category 1 hurricane winds.
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Really high winds coming off of Lake Michigan (or Lake Superior in the U.P.). Lost a lot of old oak trees in my neighborhood in the last 15 years.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
You gotta come out to Calif. And let me show you around.
It may take 2, probably 3 weeks. Ready for a road trip?
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We can stop in Santa Monica or Venice for a day or two.
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Crashing.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Ya just never know.:)
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I'm a poor boy born in a rut.
:D
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
You and me both. Lets not rule it out. Ya never know.
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Been thinking for a while that if I ran into some money I'd like to make a trip along the west coast and visit friends and relatives.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
you will always wish you had. I lived out there once. Used to chop lettuce and work the crops. Met Chavez once and listened to him speak. Went up coastal route from L.A. to Canada. It is one of the most beautiful states, or at least it was in the 1960s. Big Sur was a blast. Hippy heaven.
There is so much to see. See it before you get old and regret not going.
You Betcha :)
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tooling up and down the Cali coast. I can be down to SF in 16 hours from my front door. Did it in 2006.
me-oww!
Lets Do It!
Bwahahahahahahaha!
I feel a road trip comin on!
WOOOOHOOOOOOOOOooooo
Lets party!
after we get off the road.
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Ya never know where we might end up.:)
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from a foiled trip to Morocco...
me-oww!
If I can gather my finances into something resembling liquidity.
:(
I just had a financial tragedy of epic proportions, involving my car and bad math on my part...
It's all good now, but I have to have a savings account before I drive to the Washington coast, only a couple hours from here, much less California. Last time I went, it was financed by a pal...
me-oww!
To Cabo. 3.5 days.
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interchange gets open.
Just heard that my company's office in Yorba Linda and my bosses house in Anaheim Hills are currently evacuated too. Haven't heard shit about that fire yet.
Sucks being 3000 miles away and heading into the storm...
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---Southwest Airlines
And me gotta get together. Let me know when you show up. We'll work sumthin out.:)
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after this weekend...
Are you near anything that's currently burning?
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---Southwest Airlines
That's about 200 miles south of here.
No biggie, this is Calif. We're used to driving.
I've been rationing my gas for years while I'm in Calif.
So I figure I've saved some up.
Let me know, And we'll work sumtin out.
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for a couple of days, depending on what work tosses my way. Otherwise, I'll be in north LA County for at least two weeks, but with a rental car and a gas card...And like you said, driving ain't nothin' there--just no cellphones...
We'll see what we can work out...
BTW, what's gas costing out west now? Down to $1.99 for E85, $2.15 for reg in Miami.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Santana winds are a common occurrence . But what has been happening in the last few years is different. It has to be all the building being pushed out further and further by developers.
People need to be aware of where they're living. And take the precautionary measures to combat this kind of thing coming.
But if you don't have the land rights surrounding you( clearing brush) you're screwed. Yes, I know about the native habitat . That only complicates it even more . So, I feel it should fall on the developers to provide a safe distance between homes and wilderness.
So that means they have to buy more wilderness. As a buffer zone.
Which I am against. But this only complicate it even more.
Calif is so crowded now, that there is nowhere left to build.
That's ok in my book. Yes , we have an abundance of land to build on. We all know that. But at what cost?
As I said before, The Indians didn't call the valley "The valley of the great red smoke" for nuthin .
A lot of people from around the world want to move to Calif.
It comes with a price. And I'm not talkin money here.
You have to be willing to put up with fires, high winds,heavy rains after a drought, mudslides, earthquakes,traffic congestion, smog( not as bad as it used to be) crowds, Crowds and even bigger CROWDS.
But it's worth it. Especially if you live on the coast.
I will not live anywhere else. Except on the coast on the tip of Baja. And that is still California.Just under a different flag.
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You go somewhere she doesn't want you and she lets you know it.
It's not just things like wildfires, droughts, etc.. There are so many of us crowding in on her territory that we're going to see more pandemic diseases soon. Influenza, cholera....Hell, we crowd her in Africa and we get HIV and the filoviruses. Just a matter of time...
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
My wife and I were just talking about this today at lunch.
With all the genetically altered food. A big disease is going to do mother natures work for her. In that, I have no doubt.
I just hope I'm dead already before it happens. I don't want to go through that.
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genetically engineered food, muddy. I'm afraid that we're going to kill off species of plants and animals that might hold the keys to our survival.
Civilized humans don't seem to realize the interdependnce that we have with nature. We ate from the tree of knowledge and thought ourselves gods. And in the relatively short time since that first meal we did pretty well- or so we thought. But the fact is, we aren't gods, and we can't create ourselves from the mud once we're gone.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
But with genetically altered food, we're setting ourselves up for a disaster. This goes to your Tree Of Life point.
Once you alter that, Life hangs in the balance.
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We got no real transportation infrastructure and Mom and Pop businesses are being steamrolled for malls. The corporations have ripped off this state as badly as they did in Iraq, and people don't even realize it.
I'd never live anywhere else. But now that I've been in Miami almost four years, I don't know how I could ever live there again. Yeah, I've got friends, favorite places to eat and visit, I know all the traffic patterns and congestion times (still...), but maybe because I remember what SoCal was back in my youth, and knowing it will never be the same, it has lost its luster for me. Of course, that is true with anywhere, I suppose, but to me South Florida is still (comparatively) uncrowded and green, not to mention warmer and cleaner, than LA.
And our fires aren't as bad...
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---Southwest Airlines
We were at the AYSO games in Thousand Oaks late in the afternoon as the winds picked up and it blew a major cloud over the area. And the smoke got browner and darker, indicating fresh burn. Very scary stuff.
now they happen every year. And it isn't just one, it's many! For 30 years everybody has said we can't over build, we can't over populate, we can't use more water then we have! But builders lined the pockets of politicians and people just had to move to California from RockStar Wannabe, Wisconcin. LA used to be beautiful and you all ruined it so fuck you.
California invited folks in after WWII by building vast tracts of cheap housing and by attracting industry to the area. And California was doing just fine as long as the economy was good and the rain fell. I don't know of any other state that offered a college education to its citizens for practically nothing.
And what's ironic to me here in the Great Lakes basin is that folks in the southwest would like to drain our watershed for their consumption.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
You might as well take a shot at Ohio, Or England or Arizoma( no misspelling) Or South Africa, Or Scotland, Or Ireland, Or Italy, Or France, Or South America, or even Alaska.
You obviously don't know California all that well. We are all that makes his country great
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Dust storms. Read the Ecology of Fear.
...won't it be interesting to see if the fine folks of Texas and Oklahoma turn away at their borders cars with California plates.
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We have fish. They have dirt.
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And Texas has a lot of rivers and fertile dirt.
And how's the Pacific tuna population doing?
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
But we have plenty of albacore,swordfish, tons of rock cod
and salmon. Although salmon is in short supply right now.
Texas has alot of fish, but they also have over 4000 oil derricks out there too. Thanks, but I'll pass. We have some dirt too. The salad bowl of the nation.The Salinas Valley.
They need us more than we need them. Except for the occasional energy crisis.
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is driven by industry, muddy, but the agricultural sector has always been our leader. Around home there are apple orchards and farms that grow onions, there's a lot of corn. They grow asparagus in Hart and cherries in Traverse City, and there are bluberries around Grand Haven. Fennville grows grapes for wine...just sayin' that California isn't alone. Yeah, there are few places in the US that you can grow citrus fruits, but most of the rest can be grown elsewhere.
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The Emerald Triangle :)
Top that one.:)
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The Garden Peninsula, which juts off the U.P. south into Lake Michigan is an ideal place to grow weed. Some of the best stuff in the world- called Garden Green- came out of that area until the DEA started cracking down in the late '80's-early '90's.
High Times at one point had it rated right up there with anything grown in Humboldt County.
:D
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Probably 3-4 times bigger than yours. In acreage.Ions Andy
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But hydroponics and grow-lights allow the modern "farmer" to grow damned near anywhere, no?
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
You do live near a large body of water.
It's been so long since I read all the "how to books" That I can't specify the points I'm trying to make. But I do recall something aboutt ions and large body's of water. That make for a better environment. To get the best possible product. That's probably why the Salinas Valley produces some of the nations produce. That and the soil. I'll take sunbud anyday.
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enforcement types, with the help of the utility companies, usually undo the most grow houses. Here, anyway.
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---Southwest Airlines
I can't comment on this.
You know, for security reasons.
I don't do it. but lets say, I figured out a way to get around that.
But that was a long time ago.
I don't partake. I'm too old now.
I like the sun.
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I don't know what the people of California think of the Gov but I have to say I've said a few prayers for him. In July when he begged people not to use fireworks there was such a tragic tone to the words. And now this.
Jeanne
It's getting under 70 outside now.
Beer sales must be spiking.
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Low of 79 last night here...
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---Southwest Airlines
You've made your point:)
Hey, at least I cant say Floriduh anymore :)
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Won't be long now until the local cops are coming to confiscate your weapons, and ofcourse search your house to check for "safety".
Roadblocks and checkpoints incoming.
and other Xtians of his ilk were trying to tell people that certain national disasters were because of God being upset with something they didn't agree with?
I guess now we can safely expect the religious right to now realize that the California fires, a week after the passage of prop 8 in areas where Prop 8 passed by huge margins, is Gods punishment for passing Prop 8.
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