New CBS/NY Times poll: 65% of Americans want the Public option
By John Amato Friday Sep 25, 2009 4:00pm
In a new poll done by CBS and the NY Times shows that not only do Americans want a public option, they want it BIG TIME. These are numbers that the White House and Rahm can't ignore anymore.
65% of Americas do favor a government administered health care plan like Medicare that would compete with private insurance companies. That's something the Baucus Dogs and Republicans do not want to see after the mark ups have just completed. I'm sure they thought the teabaggers spoke for America, but as any informed person would know, they do not.
Adam Nagourney of the NY Times explains some of the poll results and the only reason that Adam finds the answer to the public option interesting is because the Villagers have spoken and said that the public option is dead and they get confused when Americans voice a different opinion than the one they think Americans should have.
He does make sure to highlight the parts that Obama is struggling with, but when it comes to the public option, there is no conflicting results, right Adam? On the question asked on this page, the public option shows the most clarity of any question asked.
Q)....it is interesting that in spite of those numbers, in spite of the confusion there is also some clarity forming in what people want because what the poll also reveals that as far as the public option is concerned, 65% favor that, 26% oppose it.
Adam: Yes, that was kind of an interesting finding particularly considering that the fact that the public option I think appears dead at least in the form that we were asking about. There's still a lot of support for it...The poll had a lot of interesting and I think in some ways---conflicting messages....
I think the public opinion as measured in polls is very important because it shows that people want something done. I don't know how it can affect them on thing s like the public option for example, but I think there's a sense in Congress, at least among Democrats that this is a big issue and people expect them to get something done and there sort of credibility is going to rest on less they succeed or not.
Adam says that the Obama administration is closely watching the polls, but still throws the public option under the bus. Isn't it always a left wing priority that is A-OK to chuck overboard by the pundits and reporters, but other facets of the Baucus Bill are quite OK to negotiate around. How about Conrad's co ops get jettisoned in a swamp?
We're keeping up the pressure on the public option and until we see an actual bill come out of committee we do not know what we're actually debating about.
Adam's article in the NY Times about the poll is interesting and does mention the public option which is a huge story unfolding on Capitol hill and in his own poll.
On one of the most contentious issues in the health care debate — whether to establish a government-run health insurance plan as an alternative to private insurers — nearly two-thirds of the country continues to favor the proposal, which is backed by Mr. Obama but has drawn intense fire from most Republicans and some moderate Democrats.
mcjoan at KOS has a good post about the public option in Blue Dog districts: Public Option Popular in Blue Dog Districts
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and call them what they really are - Limbaugh Dems?
I like that.
I'd like to see a poll showing how people feel about the public option if there's an individual mandate to purchase insurance. The people that oppose the public option might not be so happy to find there's no competition in the private insurance market. (Sure the private insurance companies "compete" with each other but they're not stupid enough to break their honey pot in a price war.)
Actually know what THE PUBLIC OPTION IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/24-11
For God's sake!
Would somebody PLEASE READ THIS FREAKIN' ARTICLE SO YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THAT "THE PUBLIC OPTION IS BULLSHIT!!!!!!!!!!
The only REAL "Public Option" is Single Payer, Conyers/Kucinich 676.
I'd hazard a guess and say about 100% of that 65% haven't got a clue as to what the public option is-a load of bollocks w/ private insurers' greedy grubby mitts all over it.
Why don't we get a thread going here about what the Freakin' "PUBLIC OPTION" actually is!!!
Then maybe so many people wouldn't be FOR it!
Doh!!!
Open thread tonight?!
Be there with your information on what "The Public Option" actually is!
Thank you!
nonexistence of the "public option" for so long. Hardly anyone would listen. People think they know what it is, but it purely wishful thinking because IT DOESN'T ACTUALLY EXIST. AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!! I cannot wait for the open thread.
Please read this link:
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/24-11
Then you and your team do some hard research.
And report back to us minions.
Thank you.
P.S. I'm attending "An Obama Listening Tour" meeting tomorrow in Northampton, Mass. with MANY people who are AGAINST the current legislation as it appears to be unfolding.
Update to follow....
Respectfully,
Abbybwood, R.N.
a pretty pink sparkle-pony, i betcha!
do so mainly because they see it improving the lives of despised minorities, and reject the Govt. spending "their" tax dollars to benefit their 'inferiors'...
There is only one race, the human race. Hate is self destructive, those who hate will have it return to them three fold. Don't complain when it comes back to you, expect it.
my life these days is spent doing karma repair...
hmmm, any wonder why the Democratic donations are down? Majority of voters want a public option and we have the Baucus's saying no? This should be a wake up call to the Blue Dogs and the wimpy Democrats. We want a public option. We don't get one, you don't our money and you don't get re-elected. The teabaggers do not represent this country. They represent Rush, Beck and Hannity. Step up to plate. The teabaggers were loud and that is it. Quit being a bunch of pussies and represent us.
Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) received a handwritten note Thursday from Joint Committee on Taxation Chief of Staff Tom Barthold confirming the penalty for failing to pay the up to $1,900 fee for not buying health insurance.
Violators could be charged with a misdemeanor and could face up to a year in jail or a $25,000 penalty, Barthold wrote on JCT letterhead. He signed it "Sincerely, Thomas A. Barthold."
I've only seen this on Politico and Free Republic, hardly sources for accurate information. I wonder what they're leaving out, or taking out of context, or if any of it is even true.
I want to see a poll that asks, "If the single payer option were put on the table, would you vote for it?" I'll bet that would break the 65% figure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZp99sXMOfw
who don't watch or read the crap they spew. true national numbers are more like 75-80% in favor. But still, it's a heck of an admission by the NYTwits.
Imperative to feed them. Readership falling off.
we read the NYT because it was the smartest-written paper in the country - a 6th grade reading level. I'm sad to think of what that actually means. Please don't say it. (ROTFLMBBAO) :<[)
... is equally appropriate here I think.
Even "moderate" Democrats support a Public Option. These corporate shills are Democrats In Name Only (DINOs). Or, more accurately, "Bought-And-Sold-Ethically-Bereft-Ass-Lickers (BASEBALS).
Soon, their outraged constituents will toss them out of office.
where the dimwits just looove McShame and Vyl Kyl.
I've moved to a state fulla eejits.
LOL. Come to think of it - I moved from a state fulla eejits too. Ohio
Why not move down here with us?
http://www.bandersnatch.com/bajaz.htm
but my spousal unit couldn't find work there in her specialty.
So it's PHX, where I lend my bagpipes to the antiwar and antiMcShame and antiVylKyl rallies which are never televised...
keep risin'
or (R)ahmocrat.
that is any DLC / DSCC / DCCC operative whether in the house or senate.
They claim to be "liberal" so here you go:
Liberally
Associated
With
Lobbyists
or just LULz
Liberally
Underwritten (by)
Lobbyists
They are full of LAWLz and LULz.
and always has been. he's KKKristol without the IQ.
is in the room with him.
look smart and that's normally hard to do.
I think the talking head mentality that the public option is dead, is just plain wrong. I think that Rockefeller and Schumer will attach it to the bill next week and that the bill will pass the Senate using the reconciliation procedure with a vote of about 54-55 to 46-45, with all GOP members voting against and some Dems. I have some personal qualms about using the reconciliation procedure since I didn't like it when Frist threatened to use it, but I think it will happen that way--before the end of the year.
Since I can't see Landrieu (LA) voting for it, and I'm getting odd vibes from Hagan (NC). Hagan "loves" the public option, but only the non-functional variants. Many people who worked for her in the campaign against Dole are not happy.
If Hagan votes against it, I think she could be successfully primaried. Landrieu would be voting with much of her constituency though.
I'm surprised it's only 65%!
Who are the 35% idiots who oppose it or don't know? They prefer being raped by insurance companies for half-assed health care?
How many moron freaking teabaggers are there in this country?
roughly the same idiots who still support(ed) the idiot Bush. Well, maybe a few more. Thing is, they'll oppose *anything* this administration proposes, whether it benefits them or the country, or even just those who are struggling the most. Anything.
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How can you seriously conduct an honest poll where 60 percent of the data is from Democrats and Liberals?
Bogus poll. How about a more honest one? Thanks.
the Public Option is more bogus than even a Rasmussen poll.
BTW, I don't see where your 60% claim is backed up.
with it. Honest polls are very rare creatures. It's all crap paid for by those who want some propaganda to throw around. Think of them as pathetic jokes.
How the poll was conducted
John, you're officially full of...erroneous information.
health care in the us is joke
“New CBS/NY Times poll: 65% of Americans want the Public option…” At last! A credible, non-biased objective poll reflective of the majority.
the white house has done lousy job explaining what they propose but the press done an abysmal job covering it. The press and especially tv news is nearly fact free and instead is covering it like a he said, she said without giving us an analysis. That's why I get my news from theyoungturks.com as well as crooksandliars, etc.
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