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The Return of the Iran-Contrarians

As the United States ponders its next steps following this week's multiparty talks with Iran over its nuclear program, many of the cast of characters from Tehran fiascos past are coming out of the woodwork to weigh in once again. On Friday, the pardoned Iran/Contra architect Elliot Abrams emerged on Fox News to suggest that Iranians "would not rally around the flag" in response to a U.S. military strike. Meanwhile, Michael Ledeen surfaced on the pages of the Wall Street Journal to warn "change in Iran requires a change in government." Of course, Ledeen conveniently omitted his own nefarious role in the Iran/Contra scheme of the Reagan administration, a which policy consisted of giving the mullahs in Iran a cake, a Bible - and U.S. arms.

The Iran-Contra scandal, as you'll recall, almost laid waste to the Reagan presidency. Desperate to free U.S. hostages held by Iranian proxies in Lebanon, President Reagan provided weapons Tehran badly needed in its long war with Saddam Hussein (who, of course, was backed by the United States). In a clumsy and illegal attempt to skirt U.S. law, the proceeds of those sales were then funneled to the contras fighting the Sandinistas in Nicaragua. And as the New York Times recalled, Reagan's fiasco started with an emissary bearing gifts from the Gipper himself:

A retired Central Intelligence Agency official has confirmed to the Senate Intelligence Committee that on the secret mission to Teheran last May, Robert C. McFarlane and his party carried a Bible with a handwritten verse from President Reagan for Iranian leaders.

According to a person who has read the committee's draft report, the retired C.I.A. official, George W. Cave, an Iran expert who was part of the mission, said the group had 10 falsified passports, believed to be Irish, and a key-shaped cake to symbolize the anticipated ''opening'' to Iran.

The rest, as they say, is history. After the revelations regarding his trip to Tehran and the Iran-Contra scheme, a disgraced McFarlane attempted suicide. After his initial denials, President Reagan was forced to address the nation on March 4, 1987 and acknowledge he indeed swapped arms for hostages (video here):

"A few months ago I told the American people I did not trade arms for hostages. My heart and my best intentions still tell me that's true, but the facts and the evidence tell me it is not. As the Tower board reported, what began as a strategic opening to Iran deteriorated, in its implementation, into trading arms for hostages."

Of course, the sad saga didn't end there.

Then Lt. Colonel and now Fox News commentator Oliver North saw his Iran-Contra conviction overturned by an appellate court led by faithful Republican partisan and later Iraq WMD commissioner Laurence Silberman. And in December 1992, outgoing President George H.W. Bush offered Christmas pardons to Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger and five other Iran-Contra scandal figures. Among them were Elliot Abrams and John Poindexter, men who eight years later reprised their roles in the administration of George W. Bush. (The disgraced Robert McFarlane reemerged this week, only to be disgraced again over his work as a lobbyist for the government of Sudan.)

On Friday, Abrams (who also continues to play a starring role in the controversy over the expansion of Israeli settlements in the West Bank), concluded that at least some Iranians might welcome an attack on their nation's nuclear facilities:

"My own view is that most Iranians now — after June, after the stealing of the election — would not rally around the flag. People used to say that — that if there’s an attack on Iran, you know the population is going to get patriotic. But that’s what Americans would do. I don’t know that it’s what Iranians are going to do, considering the way that regime is hated in Iran."

As for Michael Ledeen, his preoccupation - and dubious dealings - with Iran has continued uninterrupted. Beginning in 2001, Ledeen, now at the American Enterprise Institute, brokered meetings between Israeli arms middleman Manucher Ghorbanifar (a man the CIA deemed a "fabricator" during Iran/Contra) and the terrorist Mujahedeen Khalq. And in the Wall Street Journal this week, Ledeen echoed Republican Senators John Kyl and Kit Bond that what is needed is not negotiations with the government in Tehran, but regime change:

Thirty years of negotiations and sanctions have failed to end the Iranian nuclear program and its war against the West. Why should anyone think they will work now? A change in Iran requires a change in government. Common sense and moral vision suggest we should support the courageous opposition movement, whose leaders have promised to end support for terrorism and provide total transparency regarding the nuclear program.

As it turns out, that "courageous opposition movement" is best identified with Ahmadinejad foe Mir-Hossain Mousavi. That would be the same Mir-Hossain Mousavi who was Prime Minister of Iran during the time of the Marine barracks bombing in Beirut - and the Iran/Contra fiasco.

Of course, one other key player from Ronald Reagan's national embarrassment over Iran/Contra hasn't been shy about his desire to hit Tehran: Dick Cheney. As author of the Congressional Iran/Contra committee's minority report, then Rep. Cheney argued, "the mistakes of the Iran-contra affair were just that… There was no constitutional crisis, no systematic disrespect for 'the rule of law,' no grand conspiracy, and no Administration-wide dishonesty or coverup." Fast forward to August 2009 and the former vice president like Bush 43 administration compatriot Elliot Abrams was clear on his preferred policy for Iran:

"I was probably a bigger advocate of military action than any of my colleagues."



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You want to invade Iran? Show me the money. Show me how it will work fiscally and how a third war will not speed this country into bankruptcy faster.

We can't make a moral argument against it. maybe a fiscal one would work.

over there in the Middle East and Afghanistan bring them home so they can all get jobs in the private sector?

With the money saved on the wars we could put 150,000 to work, no problem.

You've got to be kidding. Becuase of economices, you'd put them into another war? We can't even handle what going on in the other two.

eCONomy keeping us afloat this country would just fall apart and collapse completely.

It's going to anyway. Why kill our kids in the process?

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Iranians "would not rally around the flag" in response to a U.S. military strike.

Are these the same Iranians who threw themselves in human waves against the Iraqi invaders?

No. No more idiotic f*cking wars. Let Israel defend itself, let the oil companies buy their oil like everybody else. I'm tired of paying for this crap.

I second that!

Maybe we will be greeted as Liberators?
Until one of these clowns are willing to suit up and go into harm's way themselves would I be willing to listen to their "expert" opinions.

They are all a bunch of right-wing cowardice blowhards. They remind me of a kid I grew up with. If someone challenged him, unless was behind a fence, or his boys were around, he was a little bitch. But when he had protection, he raised hell.

should all be in prison. They are nothing short of traitors and liars and criminals.

and give these Iran-contra scum a taste of their own medicine.

God, how stupid are these people? Or-- how stupid do they think *we* are?

It's not about smart or stupid. It's about who has the money and power. HINT: It ain't us.

Remember the WMDs in Saddam's arsenal (that apparently didn't exist)? Oh, yeah and the assurance that the multi-national liberators would be greeted with "flowers and chocolates"

All indications are that Iran is complying with the NPT and are not actually trying to conceal any weapons programs connected to their nuclear program. There is no reliable intelligence, traceable back to reliable sources, that Iran is pursuing any nuclear weapons programs... but that didn't stop the spin machine on Iraq. Are we gullible enough as a nation to fall for the same scam again.

he's "The Zohan" now?...Truth, Justice and the AIPACian way!

Trying to understand why oh why they lost the bid for the Olympics??

Let's see....

Torture...still happening...check.

Unlawful detentions with no habeus corpus still happening....check.

FISA...still in place....check.

The Patriot Act...still in place...check.

Privatized police being militarized in U.S. cities?....check.

Wars of aggression still happening in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan? Check. Check. Check.

U.S. tacit support of the coup organizers in Honduras with four U.S. REPUBLICAN Congressmen having just gone there to pow-wow with the coup leader while the BRAZILIAN EMBASSY HAS GIVEN A HOME TO THE LEGITIMATE PRESIDENT?....CHECK.

Health care legislation on the dock that is draconian and regressive with fines/penalties that will do more harm to Americans than it will help?...CHECK.

Climate change being ignored....(no time for it right now...sorry)...CHECK.

The economy in tatters while the White House and Congress allow Wall Street to continue trading in "exotic instruments" and the same risky derivatives that caused the collapse a year ago...CHECK.

And now Iran being threatened with a military strike by Israel...(the proxy of the U.S.) or the U.S. if they don't stop their LEGAL uranium enrichment program....CHECK.

The U.S. not DEMANDING that Israel allow inspections of it's 200 nuclear weapons sites...CHECK.

Gee....ummmm....I just can't understand why the international Olympic community wouldn't want to reward this country with the 2016 Olympics?

Can you?

we didn't get it.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?...

http://rawstory.com/2009/10/recovery-weaker-f...

S.A. countries that follow our lead aren't doing as well as the others, lol

I wonder if Fox News will ask their boy Ollie North to cover this one? I mean, he's on their payroll and might be able to shed some light on it.

Fox News: The war criminal channel.

So the discredited neocons are coming out of the woodwork up to their usual shit. I hate these chickenhawk bastards more than Glen Beck and his teabaggers and rightfully so. How great would it be if we had an ethical media that never allowed liars and warmongers on to spread their sick agenda.

Don't those Iranian's realize how lucky they would be if we were to bomb their country into ruin, create terrorism and chaos, while killing or displacing millions of their people in an endless gorilla war zone?

We ought to attack them just for being so ungrateful! U.S.A., U.S.A.,U.S.A..............,

)O(

Does America have anything like a Radio Free Iran?

Radio signals can be jammed though

But what about Twitter?

Iran has over 50% of their population too young to remember the Iranian crisis. They seem to be anti-clerical (in the government), but have been supplying Mahmoud Ahmadinejad core support.

Additionally the US reputation has been to make nice-nice with people once they join the nuclear club. People were in a tizzy when China exploded their first hydrogen bomb in June 14, 1967, and now they own our debt.

Here's an amusing story:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2009/10...

And Reagan survived because the Democratic Leadership refused to uphold the Constitution and their oath of office by publicly announcing that they would NOT prosecute anyone involved.

I specifically recall the Senate Dems press conference when they announced that the Constitution did not apply to the Alzheimers addled Acting-President Reagan and Actual President CIA spook George Bush.

This was the beginning of the continual capitulation of the Dems to the far-right extremist Republicans.

I also recall saying that the GOP would never do anything like that, let a President off scott-free for brazenly violating the Constitution and US Law. Sure enough, the GOP staged a show-trial Impeachment of the very next Democratic President for no reason at all.

It was in 1986 when it was made clear to the whole world that the Democratic Leadership were, and still are, under the direct control of the Republican Party. That anyone doesn't see that or would argue against the obvious is indicative of insanity or idealized naivety.

And that is precisely why trial and punishment must take place TODAY for torture/DOJ/war-crimes/etc.

It is not “looking to the past” and politically-motivated witch-hunts. It is for the future – so that those in that future will know that these crimes WILL NOT BE TOLERATED. If there is no punishment for these crimes, then they might as well NOT BE crimes. For those that committed these atrocities will forever be free TO DO IT AGAIN.

i suggest pres. obama send dick cheney over to iran
to negociate with the iranian govt. but pres. obama
should make it perfectly clear what cheney's position
is toward iran....that should be either some interesting
negociating or a war criminal trial that has been
too delayed.

Cheney should hike in through Kurdistan.

Why can't we have a good military parade like the Chinese? That'll scare them into submission.

Chinese Military Parade

Military Parade Chinese

Parade Chinese Military set to Nine Inch Nails

You know the Racist Nazi Christian Hate Mongering Indifferent, Ignorant, ANTI AMERICAN WACKO RIGHT are worried their bring out the Mindless Brain DEAD TRAITORS. Yes, the SCUM of America,I put this Trash with the Child Molesters, MURDERS (which they are) Spouse ABUSERS, yeah this is a real treat to be spoken to by a bunch of TRITOR for PROFIT but then again when your a SOCIALIST for PROFIT and a TRAITOR what do you expect. Of course its going to be the AMERICAN RACIST NAZI Brain Dead NitWit Imitation news network that brings these Traitors wrapped in a Flag and Photo Oping with the Troops. The more DEAD Bodies the happier these pieces of SH*T are.

Russia Today on YouTube reveals that, as part of a tradeoff for the US not constructing the Anti-Missile system in Czech Republic and Poland, the Saudis and Russians have agreed to a sale of the missile system that the Russians had previously committed to Iran.

As a consequence, the Iranians will not have the sophisticated anti-aircraft system they had anticipated using to defend against an attack.

RT also notes that the Saudis have no need for the system, but are rolling in money, and would therefore oblige Washington in this deal.

Interesting reporting on international politics - did any of the US media mention this deal?

(Russia Today - YouTube) Tit-for-tat. Saudis to get Russian missiles instead of Iran?

Well....the US was successful in the overthrow of Mossedegh...
and the install of the Shah....

and in supporting Irag in the 80-88 war....and not apologizing for shooting down Iran Air 655.....

and successfully demonizing a country through propaganda....

that involved George HW Bush running a CIA operation that smuggled cocaine into the US. Bill Clinton ran the Arkansas franchise, and the CIA used it as an opportunity to bring crack to America's poor neighborhoods.
Today, the CIA and the Turkish government are smuggling heroin out of Afghanistan. Sibel Edmonds testified about the connections between corrupt US politicians and the Turkish government recently, but for some reason her sworn testimony has gone completely unmentioned in the corporate press, as well as much of the lefty internets. Talking Points Memo and Crooks and Liars, for example, have been ignoring Edmonds' staggering testimony.
Plus ca change, etc. etc.

Things never change.... if you challenge the Zionist Power Configuration (ZPC), they will call you an anti-Semite - Or they throw Anne Frank at you, or the Holocaust, it never ends.

The ZPC , is a shadow government in America and they answer to no one.

They get away with this in plain sight, by shilling WWII as an ethnocentric ploy to give cover to their reprehensible behaviour. This group of ethnocentric Jews have literally absconded with the Seconded World War and have taken it as their own, the fact that 64 million died is meaningless when compared to their (Jewish) suffering, it’s all about them and they won`t be stopped.... and we all fall into line, lest we be called anti-Semites.

Polanski supporters even used the holocaust as a tool to gain sympathy for the rapist/pedophile.

And shame on all of us for not challenging them.

"And Now for Something Completely Different"

"Shut up, you Americans. You always talk, you Americans. You talk and you say, "let me tell you something" and "I just want to say this"... well, you're dead now, so shut up."

You literally don't know what literally means. When you say "ZPC", I see Stormfront. If you want to blast the Israeli government, blast away. If you want to claim that Jews control the US government, prepare to be called a wingnut. Want to be more specific about who "they" are?
Also, Polanski supporters abusing the Holocaust isn't the same thing as rightwing Zionists abusing the Holocaust. Different people, different goals. But thanks for trying to think about it.

Smear and goad is the Hasbara way, you people know no shame and your Sayanim tricks are legion.

I said ``this group of ethnocentric Jews``, how is this Stormfront material? Did I say all Jews?

This thread is about Elliot Abrams, so do your own reading on His associations and his warmongering, and his extreme ethnocentrism - akin to Jewish Stormfrontery.

Different people, different goals and the same old shit.

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Check out this article in the haaretz and this quote "The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it's possible. But another journalist, (not part of the group), is skeptical "

And Thomas Friedman goes on to say, " It's the war the neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite. Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened."

And now we are on our way to Iran, to do a cull of humanity  for Israel - so kiss off bud.

(Culling is the process of removing animals from a group based on specific criteria. This is done in order to either reinforce certain desirable characteristics or to remove certain undesirable characteristics from the group. For livestock, wildlife and Muslims, the process of culling usually implies the killing of animals with undesirable characteristics.)

I'd sure like to know how many of them ever fought in a war. We know Cheney never served as he "had better things to do." A bunch of cowardice bullies, always promoting violence by and on someone else.

Because you cannot be honest with someone if greed is your motivation.
99% of Americas foreign policy stems from greed. Look at how we have gone into countries saying we were going to lend them money but to lend them money they had to change their water supply system. Messed up there economy and ruined people lives all in the name of greed.
It is a dirty shame that we cannot deal honestly with others but as long as we have the greed before all else atitude we are going to continue this down ward spiral. Greed for a few is not sustainable.
Look at history no so called civilization has been able to survive set upon the corse of greed.
republicanism is a mental illness!

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