Daily Show Flashback: McCain is a "socialist", too!
Just another example of how indispensable Jon Stewart and the Daily Show are, catching things the media don't. McCain and Palin (indeed, the entire GOP establishment) have been bashing Obama as a "socialist" the past few days for having the audacity to propose raising the top tax rate from 36% to 39% while giving working folks (95% of the rest of us) some relief. The only problem: Stewart dug up footage of McCain making the exact same argument a scant eight years ago.
Stewart: "Now you can argue that this country has dabbled in socialism ever since the income tax was introduced, and that calling Obama's plan 'socialist' is a cynical ploy that even McCain realizes is a bankrupt tactic. Or, should I say, realized."
Audience member: "Why is it that someone like my father who goes to school for 13 years gets penalized in a huge tax bracket because he's a doctor."
McCain: "I think it's to some degree because we feel obviously that wealthy people can afford more."
Audience member: "Are we getting closer and closer to, like, socialism?"
McCain: "Here's what I really believe: That when you reach a certain level of comfort, there's nothing wrong with paying somewhat more."
Stewart: "That, of course, is the late socialist leader John Mccain. I believe he passed away during the Republican primaries. He will be missed."
Devastating. I smell a viral YouTube video brewing. Or an awesome Obama ad.
McCain said that back in his youth! He was young and reckless back in 2000, now he's wise and knows better.
b4 he was against it?
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Some stuff you can't make up!
Looks like, YET AGAIN, he was FOR IT, before he was AGAINST IT!
What a complete hypocrite!
mcc*nt is trying to drive the nails into the repug coffin as payback for their screwing up mcc*nt's best chance to be president in 2000? I'm starting to think that is the case. plain on the ticket certainly doesn't appear to be a rational act.
Some stuff you can't make up!
I'm ashamed to say that I know a number of persons who are voting, not for McCain, but for Palin. One recently told me that McCain was simply a means to the end of getting Palin in office.
Don't think too much about that or you won't be able to sleep tonight.
Even if Senator Obama wins the election, better than 45% of the electorate will have voted for the McCain/Palin ticket.
It's not like were just talking about the 19-28% Bush loyalists.
Forget ‘Wealth’ — McCain Wants to Spread the ‘Manure’ Around
they're both tools.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Anyone else have trouble watching the clip.....for some reason (how paranoid do I want to get here??) it wouldn't load up for me
all it takes is all of us
Error 404.
I couldn't get it to load either. Quicktime took a while, but it loaded.
You can also go to Comedy Central.com's Web site; it's fine there.
I think Jon Stewart and The Daily Show crew do the work of 10 MSM outlets in their masterful job of showing all the foibles of politicians, especially the GOP. Wonderful stuff. Why isn't the MSM doing this? Also, funny and ironically insightful though he is, Stephen Colbert is named to the top 10 influential men; Stewart isn't. Terrible, terrible oversight. Jon & Co., you ROCK!
thank you! I can never watch videos here (unless they are embedded youtubes), both formats are not welcome on my computer.
Whatever programming they use at comedy central dot com is crap on my computer, also.
However... I have tracked down the clip on you tube =D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31A1t6_bZ08
I can't usually get CL or comedy central clips to run, but Hulu is great on my computer. It posts the entire Daily Show.
Try downloading the file in the format you know works on your PC, Windows Media or Quicktime. With QT, be sure you've updated it first. Then when the download window asks to save the file or open it, choose to open. It will then bring up your QT or WM interface. That should allow it to play.
Hope this helps. It worked for me, when I also had trouble just clicking "play." Neither format worked. Downloading and using the interface in my PC's installed WM did. And I don't even have the latest version of WM, because I'm still using W98SE. By preference. Won't be able to much longer, though, and that's sad.
Funny how when they don't want the truth out we always get ERROR404
Our bad. Extra dot in the URL confused the server. It's fixed now.
Every time this angry dolt throws shit at Obama, he winds up licking it off his own face.
"They have run out of ideas" -Barry
[Deleted. Spamming with BS-Sitemonitor]
Why are you wasting YOUR time here with this spliced, edited bullshit? Send this shit to one of your far right sub-culture sites, they'll eat it up.
BTW...how much did you contribute to Moose Bitch's shopping spree?
To be fair, The McCain/Socialism clip in question is heavily spliced and edited as well. I'd like to see the video in it's full context even though it'd be real hard to take what McCain said out of context.
That said, I really dislike John McCain. I have already voted for Obama/Biden and it felt wonderful.
Do you get paid to spread this BS? I stopped watching when they quoted the "Obama is the most liberal Senator in the Senate" horse shit. I wish he was more liberal.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/...
Palin: God will do the right thing on election day
In an interview posted online Wednesday, Sarah Palin told Dr. James Dobson of “Focus on the Family” that she is confident God will do “the right thing for America” on Nov. 4.
Dobson asked the vice presidential hopeful if she is concerned about John McCain’s sagging poll numbers, but Palin stressed that she was “not discouraged at all.”
“To me, it motivates us, makes us work that much harder,” she told the influential Christian leader, whose radio show reaches tens of millions of listeners daily. “And it also strengthens my faith because I know at the end of the day putting this in God’s hands, the right thing for America will be done, at the end of the day on Nov. 4.”
Good luck to god when he goes to vote and they ask for proof of his address.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Nice touch.
Must be fun for Sarah to be interviewed by the guy who vetted her.
How's that VP candidate working for you Dobson?
Good one.
Just remember, Sarah, sometimes the answer to a prayer is "no". And sometimes, it's not just "no", but "hell, no!"
needs to stop meddling in our elections. It's bad enough that the Republicans do it, we don't need the all powerful dude in the universe vote rigging too.
Riiiiight. And if Obama wins, Sarah, will you then concede that God made sure the right thing for America was done? Somehow, I doubt it. Instead, the narrative will be that a massive left-wing voter fraud conspiracy subverted the will of God and the Real, Pro-American people.
The Obama Campaign needs to get this out in a commercial ASAP. It needs to be played evetday in Ohio, PA, Florida and Indiana.
Obama was just live on tv doing a press conference and he used almost these same lines. He brought up the vote and what McCain said when bush first proposed his tax cuts. Then he asked the rhetorical question, was McCain a socialist then?
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
It's only socialism if wealth is redistributed for the greater good of all.
When trillions of working peoples' tax dollars are given to billionaires, it's Free Trade.
In response to McCain having voted for the government bailout being socialism McCain said that it "was in reaction to a crisis"
So does McCain believe capitalism and free markets cannot solve financial crises, only socialism can?
I said this to myself as soon as I watched that video.
I can't believe that wasn't an immediate follow-up question.
Bachmann says she never saw HARDBALL BEFORE .....
This woman is a real piece of work ...
Bachmann said Tuesday she probably should have watched "Hardball" to see what it was like before she went on it.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27319845/
Chris Matthews was just about as nice as he could be to Bachmann. He just gave her enough rope to hang herself. I don't see how she could object to Hardball. She did all the damn talking.
I have always considered Matthews to be right of center, not too far, but right nevertheless.
But since this smear campaign got into high gear, seems to me he is moving over towards the left, unlike Buchanan, who still defends absolutely everything neocon. He even defended Palin answering a question by a 3rd grader what the job of a VP was, and Palin still has the VP 'in charge of the Senate' where (s)he can do wonderful things.
If you need funds to pay for essentials, you have a revenue problem
If you need funds to pay for frivolity, you have a spending problem
Steven, thanks for Hang 'em High.I think the US will go through an enormous paradigm shift. You don't do things by halves. I just hope you all will be ready for the change. Ironically the CHANGE that Obama talks about will probably be life changing and even ideological changing. Sure the militia will come out of the woodwork, amazing how quiet they've been post 9/11, but I have a feeling it will be some sort of socialism, maybe an updated Americanised version where the wealth really does need to be spread around, and what people once thought was unthinkable, will soon be accepted, because it will be a solution to widespread poverty and disallusionment. You will probably be thinking where you were before the Second American Revolution, when the Repug criminals ruled everything.
Obama is a centrist at heart, and we the people don't hold the power and money in this corporate oligarchy. We serve at their pleasure and it's not going to change.
Besides, and I don't say this lightly being an American, but Americans are largely too lazy, apolitical, and intellectually incurious to start up a second American Revolution.
McCain: "Here's what I really believe:
Heh...depending on what day of the week it is...or which group he is talking to.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
"So, look, here's what I really believe, that when you are -- reach a certain level of comfort, there's nothing wrong with paying somewhat more. But at the same time, that shouldn't be totally out of proportion. But I think the debate in this country is more about tax cuts rather than anything else. And frankly, I think the first people who deserve a tax cut are working Americans with children that need to educate their children, and they're the ones that I would support tax cuts for first." -Senator John McCain, 2000
LINK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2JPbQOHEkY
I think your missing the point of calling anyone a "socialist". It is intended to remind people of "Godless Communism" and the old scary Soviet Union. People are supposed to equate the word Socialism with the propaganda that made people believe that Russians were going to take over and ether kill everyone or take away everything you own and ban everyone from going to church and reading the bible. The real definition of Socialism has little to do with the image the Republicans are trying to create.
that Satan and Socialism both begin with an "S"???
Here's the St. Cloud paper's op-ed board interview 44 min. clip.
http://www.sctimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?...
Chris Matthews was in shock.
He kept feeding line to that stupid [Deleted], Bachmann...and she kept taking it.
How would you like to be a staff member of that stupid [Deleted], and suddenly come to the realization that your boss is batshit crazy.
[LAP- there's got to be a way to make the point without coming across a bit misogynistically, isn't there? Thanks. Site Monitor]
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
ALERT! Seen on a blog to Amarillo Globe News (Amarillo,Texas)-"I went to Randall County office on Georgia Street at lunch time on Monday and decided to come back later, the lines were just too long. I returned Tuesday before 5 P.M.. I could see a line of people waiting to vote inside. I (a Hispanic) and an African-American woman were turned away and told that the polls were closed. It was before 5 P.M. I can only assume that the old white lady working at the poll is trying to keep the minorities from voting but just 30 seconds before, as I was walking into the building, I saw her let in two white men.And the dirty side of voter manipulation has begun. Now everyone knows that McCain is going to win in Randall County and I will vote in the election, even with little old ladies trying to keep me out. But if the early voting trend is any indication, people are making the effort to vote. And it would appear that the conservaties are trying to suppress the vote of the young, the minorities, and anyone else that they think are going to vote for Obama."
you kinda have nowhere to go afterwards.
socialist?
communist?
sounds pretty tame to me.
HAVE to run with that last part in a commercial, right?
So, after 6 years of a Republican house, senate and nearing 8 with a Republican President my new understanding of our party is that we support bigger government, more intrusive government, less privacy, no habeas corpus or posse comitatus, nationalized financial and other institutions... basically...everything that scared me about Democrats being in control. Now, the reason my friends are saying I should vote for McCain is that if I think it’s bad now, wait and see what happens if l Obama gets elected. What. we're going to be even more socialist?
Google “Tony creed task force raid” What I’m interested in is voting for a party that would try to make sure stuff like this quits happening all over our country. The Bush administrating has militarized our local police agencies to the point of absurdity. I don’t what Obama will do but don’t think McCain will undo any of the damage, restore any of the fundamental rights we’ve lost, reign in the ridicules spending, ANYTHING to attempt to reverse the damage we’ve suffered over the last 8 years.
Please google PNAC and read about what your republican party has truly become and who the major players are. If you really read with an open mind I think you'll understand that we have exactly the government that they planned for.
I think I'm turning Japanese, I think I'm turning Japanese, I really think so.....
i always thought someone should do a YouTube reveiw of mccain. mccain hates long interviews and
YouTube. why? because he plays both sides of the fence. oh yeah and he lies.
http://www.myfoxdetroit.com/myfox/pages/News/...
someone show this to 'joe' the plumber. get his opinion. he seems to have more news media interviews
than the other mascot Palin.
Brilliant. Obama needs to put that clip in one of his campaign ads.
http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/ind...
Click on this link to view the full episode of The Daiily Show on October 20th. The middle section of the show features a report from Jason Jones as he visits "real America" in Wasilla, Alaska.
This is not only hilarious but yet again a brilliant example of the value of this indispensable television program and it how it puts to shame the mainstream media. Watch as Jason Jones interviews the new Mayor of Wasilla and discovers that the job (which dumbass Sarah Palin has been touting as part of her 'executive experience") requires no experience nor is demanding in the least bit.
Amazing (yet sadly not surprising) that the MSM haven't even visited Wasilla to ask these type of questions, leaving it to a comedy program to reveal truths that are constantly concealed from the American population.
Once again kudos to The Daily Show. What would we do without you?
The U.S. Constitution, Art. I, sec. 8, cl. 1, gives Congress the power to tax and spend not only for the common defense, but also for the "general welfare."
So these right-wing nutjobs who are screeching about "socialism" really need to take up their beef with the Founding Fathers.
The General Welfare. I suppose that could apply to anything that a politician sees fit to apply it to. Surely that was the founders intent, to give us a giant Government that steals from the productive to give to the lame. Its what makes America grate. Ha!
For all those Repugs who think John Sidney McCain is your Hero against Solcialist Obama...hear this, and hear clearly...McCain has spoken..in his own words...and let's not say we put words in his mouth...this is the age of the internet people...wake up...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8EyGpOU3qM
can someone explain this 36% to 39% jump for the top tier of the tax bracket. I thought the top two tiers were 33 and 35%? I have seen the 36 and 39 numbers used elsewhere but I dont understand where they came from.
Anyone ever heard of SOCIAL SECURITY? Or unemployment benefits?
far left loon >.<
McCain and Obmama are both socialists, and that would not be as bad if both of them weren't cloking their policies in fancy rhettoric that obscures the redistributionalist nature of those programs. When a Socialist advances socialism, but then gets upset when he is called a socialist, you have to wonder what the hell is going on... The book NONE DARE CALL IT CONSPIRACY lays out one viewpoint on the global socialism movement that i find myself agreeing with, but i would also like to hear other sides as well...
John McCain has really been John McCain's biggest opponent in this election....well beside Sarah Palin.
“I have never engaged in class warfare. I am very much in FAVOR of tax cuts for middle-income and lower-income Americans. I’m deeply concerned about a kind of class warfare that’s going on right now. It’s unfortunate. There’s a growing gap between the haves and have-nots in America, and that gap is growing, and it’s unfortunately divided up along ethnic lines." McCain..
More:
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=244...
I think I'm having a serious bromance with Jon Stewart right now.
Socialism is not a concept known to many young people, unless they studied it in a government class or something. During the cold war, socialists were regarded as "pinks," a kind of watered-down "red," which were the Soviet communists. This semantic linking to communism made socialism a "toxic" concept to many Americans. McCain now seeks to restore the toxicity, without supplying factual information about socialism or socialistic government programs. He uses ignorance to engender fear.
It isn't that clear a concept, though. Socialism can be the entire basis of a form of government, OR "socialist" or "socialistic" can be applied to an AREA of government.
We have what is called a capitalistic form of economy, and our government addresses its duties within that framework. But socialist concepts are far from unknown in America.
The income tax is a way of "spreading wealth."
Laws that require minimum wages, or equal pay for equal work, are ways of "spreading wealth."
So was the recent bailout.
Social Security is a huge government program - a socialist one - which we've had for a couple of generations already, and it has served us very well indeed. It is one of the VERY FEW government programs that has fulfilled its promise, and has served our population conscientiously. Yet its nature is socialistic. Nothing wrong with that at all. Because it WORKS.
In a real sense, even the most capitalistic nation in the world cannot possibly serve its population well without SOME socialist-type programs. Yet, in spite of ALL the various forms of "spreading wealth" in our government programs and policies, are we no longer capitalists? We still have a vigorous capitalist economic base. Slowed down at the moment, but probably not for terribly long.
It's simple. There are places where capitalism is fantastic, and other places where it stinks. There are places where socialism would stink, and others where it can be truly fantastic - like Social Security.
The Republicans, as usual, like scare tactics. They want people to think that socialism is some kind of dirty word - a thing that might even lead us to (gasp!) communism! The fact that this is ridiculous doesn't convince the undereducated sector of America. All they relate to is the scare tactic.
Even as a form of government, socialism isn't something to be feared at all - Sweden is doing nicely with it - but capitalism DOES remain the best for our people, for MOST things. But not for all things. Socialism is good; capitalism is better - usually.
To develop a socialist program for health care is entirely desirable, because our capitalistic approach to health care has not only failed us but PREYED on us. How else could YOU be paying $1000 per MONTH for health care, while I have even more TOTAL health care coverage, no copays or deductibles, and no way I can be limited or squeezed out - with ALL medical expenses fully covered, including outpatient - and still pay only $500 U.S. Dollars - per YEAR? I've used it, and it is entirely competent high-quality health care. But you can't have it because you don't live in Mexico. I do. I pay roughly 1/24 of what you do, and have better coverage.
Yes, a "socialist" healthcare program would mean a huge bureaucracy, but you may have noticed that the private sector is already "serving up" to us an even larger one - the paperwork - merely to process insurance claims alone - is mountainous. But our present system is squeezing out more and more citizens every year, leaving them vulnerable to bankruptcy if a major medical event occurs. This is NOT America at its best. In the arena of health care, our entire population has been forsaken. Capitalism in health care, is actually an OBSTACLE to quality care for you, the patient. And we've learned that this is so - the hard way - and over many years.
We have no choice but to use the present system. We are a "captive market," and the capitalism of all of our health providers puts their focus on profit first. We have learned that we cannot trust capitalism to oversee our health - its greed has sunk its own ship. Yet there ARE no other options.
The private sector here in Mexico is still thriving. But anyone who can pay $500 a year can have health care, and that includes people who wouldn't have a shot at it in the States. There are MILLIONS of Americans right this moment, who would DROOL to have what I have. All Mexican employers are required to foot the entire $500 for each full time employee. But if the person changes jobs, his coverage goes with him. He is the subscriber; the employer only pays the bill.
The need is profound; our population has been preyed upon by the very people entrusted with providing the products and services so vital to our health. That's why they're so angry. Just as they were when Social Security was passed - because corporations promised pension accounts, then squandered their employees' funds, leaving them to retire totally broke. Abuse by capitalism resulted in SS. As it is now doing in the area of health care.
But that doesn't indicate at all that capitalism should be abandoned; on the contrary, it is a very constructive way to run an economy, when it is engaged in responsibly. But no capitalistic entity can be relied upon to serve in a fiduciary function toward its employees or the public at large. Profit will always come first. Some areas of our economy are abused by capitalism, making it unfit. That just happens to be the reality of it.
And THAT is where socialistic programs can be of great value - WITHIN the capitalistic structure of our economy - just as SS has been doing, all these years. How could that be something to be afraid of?
Who would be hurt by a nationalized health care plan? Not you, chum. You could still use what you've got, or opt for the national plan - you'd have two options. It WOULD hurt the healthcare providers of services and products, but it wouldn't destroy them. They would still have profits - just not the kind they have now, from gouging us. Sure they won't like it, and their armada of money-laden lobbyists would fight tooth and nail to prevent the enactment of such a program. Count on it!
But should we allow them to keep preying on us? That's the real question here. We are prey. Do we want to continue being prey? Are we going to believe that quality will suffer under national care? Maybe it won't be quite as luxurious, but a national plan would provide very solid, competent care. And those who have NO coverage at all, and no way to get any, aren't going to quibble if national care means no wallpaper or TVs in hospital rooms.
...all McCain said in 2000, essentially, was the well-off should pay more than the poor (a flat tax would do that). Today, he is against now tilting the system even MORE against the productive segment of society, just to give the lazy liberals another gubmint handout.
If you're really looking for a hypocrite, why don't you go dig up some old Barney Frank clips.
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