"Jobs, baby, jobs": Hillary and Bill hit the stump with a new chant
By SilentPatriot Monday Oct 13, 2008 6:00pm
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Can the media please stop saying that Bill and Hillary Clinton aren't throwing their full weight behind Barack Obama already? I mean, seriously...what more do they have to do? Both of them hit the stump today in Pennsylvania, forcefully arguing, like they have for months now, that America can't afford four more years of George W. McCain.
Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton offered a Democratic rejoinder to the Republican chant of "drill, baby, drill." Said the one-time presidential candidate: "Jobs, baby, jobs."
Campaigning for her once bitter rival Barack Obama in Pennsylvania, the New York senator told about 1,500 people at an historic farm in suburban Horsham, that her husband's administration produced a balanced budget and a surplus.
"Now, eight short years later, we've had to add a digit to the debt clock," she said, referring to the digital sign in New York City that tracks the national debt.
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Smart move Clintons. I bet McCain/Palin just did a dual "Doh," like Homer Simpson.
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I thought that after she lost that she would do a little as possible to support BHO. Time after time, she's pulled it out and really went to bat for Obama. I've gained a newfound respect for her. Nice work Hill-dog!
The comment about "jobs baby jobs" was missing from this video.
Bill.
I feel they've both done a great job of supporting Sen Obama.
Bill was lackluster when talking to Jon Stewart the other week.
No he wasn't. Troll.
He was slumped over and bland, spoke token words of support with no fire in them.
He could also have worn an Obama button/badge but didnt.
I simply don't get this. It's patently obvious that both of them were tepid in their support. They've changed their tune. How does this objective analysis make someone a "troll?" Ridiculous.
Sometimes the troll accusations fly a little loose around here. Quite a few people noticed Bill Clinton's lukewarm endorsement of Barack Obama on all the talk shows. Jon Stewart even made mention of it while Bill was on his show. It was glaring.
Glad to see them out there.
The Republicans just had their reichfest, were glowing from Palin being brought on board and all the loving MSM fluff reporting.
A lot of the Democrat congressional people were more concerned with being reelected to their own seats than fighting the GOP smears against Obama.
That was the time when Bill and other semi retired Democrats needed to go all out and support Ovama's POTUS race 110%.
Of course late September and the financial events opened everybodys eyes to the folly of Republican ideology and policies, and why four more years would be nasty beyond belief.
Funny, I heard quite an extended report the other day about a joint appearance in which Hillary talked mostly about herself and how hard she's fought for x, y, and z. And how she can't wait to have Obama sign into law the health care reform she has worked so hard for. Then, Bill got up and talked about how Hillary has worked harder for Obama than any runner-up has ever worked for any nominee (Jeebus, it is always about them, isn't it.)
Calling people trolls (castanea) because they think the Clinton's are in it first, last, and always for themselves is ridiculous, since there are few things more obvious in all of politics. (Bush is stupid, criminal, and incompetent; McCain is stupid, a liar, and incompetent, Palin is stupid, incompetent, and dangerous, and Bill and Hillary are in it for themselves and not much else.) I think Hillary would have been immeasurably better in almost every respect if she'd separated herself from Bill, one of the supreme narcissists in American political history, many years ago.
Calling people trolls because they disagree with you is the kind of stupidity that ought to be reserved for Republicans.
Your entire first paragraph selectively uses paraphrased responses and bits of speeches to illustrate a point you'd like to be true: that Bill and Hillary Clinton are egoists, and their interest in seeing Obama win the presidential race is rooted entirely in self-interest. The problem with this schema of interpretation is that it will colour everything you'll see or hear of the Clintons so that it conforms to this specific narrative. They can't win with you, in short.
Bill Clinton was right that Hillary Clinton has worked harder on behalf of the presidential nominee than any candidate in the entirety of US history - and he mentioned this in response to a question by Jon Stewart of The Daily Show, who was noting the bias against Hillary Clinton that says that her support of Obama is lackluster or otherwise unbelievable. In short, he was defending his wife, so of course he's going to talk about her. While certainly the two of them were a little short-sighted in their attacks against Barack Obama earlier in the year, to assume that that means they'd rather see McCain win seems equally short-sighted and in contrast of everything they have fought for over the last thirty-plus years.
Half Right - They have added "2" digits to the debt clock!
I agree with the author on this one. I've always had respect for the Clintons, but Hillary started using negatives to earn votes. I did begin to lose respect for her after this. I really respect her though, for taking her loss in stride and ultimately making the choice to do the right thing. To me the Dems show that we can put our personal differences aside, and work as a collective for the common good of us all. To me that is what it means to be a true American.
of the tired "Clintons aren't doing enough" BS. It was reported on MSNBC today that they've hit 50 stops for Barack. McCain/Palin have made 55. Obama/Biden/Michelle - 95 (I think.)
The media's Clinton boner may never go away, but the proof is in the pudding.
I was a Hillary supporter who like her is fully behind Obama as I was behind in his Senate run. He's got my money and my vote and my vocal support in my day to day. Do I have to give up an arm. too?
I fucking will, I swear... :)
They even selling a new campaign line. JOBS, Baby JOBS!!!
This was all just a case of the media trying to stir up trouble where there was none.
And no, the media hardon for the Clintons will probably never go away.
I was wondering where Hillary was after the Democratic primary after Palin has been hogging the spotlight for the past few weeks. That's too bad, because Hillary is 1000x the woman Palin is.
BTW, the C&L website made a pretty nice upgrade, and this is my first posted comment after the upgrade took place.
I heard this on C-SPAN late at night. It was a rousing, no holds barred speech that politicians only dream about. No one word went bad. She tied Bush to McCain to the Economy and then boosted Obama as the party choice. There was no acting this one. Not a false moment. Just a good speech.
I have some die hard republican Clinton hater friends. Now they are quiet,sad faced and don't want to talk about politics. I don't gloat,but if they could see the happiness I feel inside they would sure be mad..lol.
Work colleagues, random people everywhere, all are muttering about how the Republicans have shafted them big time over their 401Ks pensions, savings, and anything else financial they are scared about by the doom and gloom MSM.
Its fear and loathing time in GOPland, daddypublican has betrayed his children, sold them out to wall street, and they are scared mad confused and going crazy.
on olberman:
"i thought wasila was a yeast infection i had once..."
Besides, what they are saying is what needs to be said. That "drill, baby, drill" slogan is meaningless and would, from a long term perspective, be a long term goal. The "jobs, baby, jobs" slogan is what is needed now. Especially if that job growth is focused on specific areas of the economy. Infrastructure, manufacturing, health care and many others are needed since these are the areas that the Bush Administration neglected. These areas are however, the foundation of a strong economy. What good does it do have a massive amount crude oil supply when your buildings and bridges are falling down, your population is sickly and you export very little that anyone wants to buy? The U.S. used to be the leader is all of those areas. Now, China and many others have assumed that role. What the Clintons are saying is that we have to take that back and I happen to agree with them.
"i could tell by the look in her eyes..."
ahh, the fresh smell of journafiction....
Heck of a good comeback quote.
The only problem is who is chanting it.
I love Bill Clinton. He may be the best President since Truman or maybe FDR, but Right-Wing Radio and the TV comedians are going to take this 'Jobs' thing in a direction TOTALLY unrelated to employment.
Have Biden and Obama do that chant, or Hillary and Chelsea, but Bill - that's asking for trouble.
I have gained new respect for you.
Bill and Hillary have always put the American people first. Some are surprised but the Clinton's have been like this all their lives. When Bill was President he always went home to visit people he grew up with. Hillary is always talking about what we need to do so Americans can do better and all have the American Dream. Their message was lost by the Media and others who were jealous and had personal reasons. Al Gore listened to those who didn't like Bill and even Kerry did the same. Obama was the smart one he knew Bill did so much for the American people during 1992 to 2000 and most Americans have what they have today because of Bill. I remember when the classified ads were 10 to 15 pages now their a halp a page. American was the most respected Country around the World and all looked for the US as the leader. Obama used the Clinton blueprint to repair the Economy as Bill did when he was President. It was nice to have President Clinton put the American people first let's hope Obama gets in to do the same. Hillary will be fighting for our rights forever and even Bill knows that.
What choice do either of them have?
Where were they when Barack was trailing? Hillary (and I agree she's ten times the woman Palin is) - smarter, experienced, connected, beloved, savvy, educated, church-going white mother who grew up summers on that lake outside Scranton...for Christ's sake Chelsea campaigns and Bristol's knocked up! Hillary could have gnawed the flesh off Palin with one bite. But we've had to tolerate this Witch from Wasilla for how long now?
Bill and Hillary were testing the water. Waiting to play the "I told you he couldn't beat McCain...I could have won" card. Hillary 2012.
Now it appears Obama can and will win. What would be the verdict IF they continued to do little and nothing? Talk about political suicide. So there's a healthy degree of pure self-interest in what they're doing...and it's not like they have anything MORE helpful to their own legacy to be up to right about now. Especially if you want another shot at health care, or the AG's office.
The tactics employed during the primaries by both Hillary and Bill were at times no different in character or quality than the sort of evil, backward, offensive shit that goes on at Palin rallies. Those rednecks in West Virginia: "I ain't votin' fer no HOO-SANE<" and "We've had enough trouble with them people (blacks) around here."
"He's Christian AS FAR AS I KNOW."
Bill, when he does his shtick, is one of the great political communicators of all time. He has that quality that Barack Obama has more of: The ability to make every single person in a huge crowd feel like they've just met someone personally.
Hillary IS farking smart, and she is beloved by huge numbers of Democratic women. The Clinton brand still carries serious weight and solid power. And they're doing their job.
For me, doing their duty now and serving their own self-interest makes it about a wash. Politics is a dirty game and I can live with that. But I'm not ready to toss them bouquets for choosing the only path that was open to them.
There was a story going around that Hillary wants a seat on the USSC. I've already expressed my opinion about that on my blog at http://cousinavi.wordpress.com.
How many times did she have to say NO, before he pulled that out of her. Let's take a look at what was really said ....
KROFT: You don't believe that Senator Obama's a Muslim?
CLINTON: Of course not. I mean, that's--you know, there is not basis for that. You know, I take him on the basis of what he says. And, you know, there isn't any reason to doubt that.
KROFT: And you said you'd take Senator Obama at his word that he's not a Muslim.
CLINTON: Right. Right.
KROFT: You don't believe that he's a Muslim or implying? Right.
CLINTON: No. No. Why would I? No, there is nothing to base that on, as far as I know.
KROFT: It's just scurrilous --
CLINTON: Look, I have been the target of so many ridiculous rumors. I have a great deal of sympathy for anybody who gets, you know, smeared with the kind of rumors that go on all the time. [Emphasis added]
How many times does she have to say NO before you'll believe her. The irrational Clinton hatred is just such utter BS.
Oh, they're behind him now.. now that it's clear he'll win. I never thought I'd see the Clinton's trying to ride someone's wake, but here it is.
Let's be clear: neither Hillary nor Bill were enthusiastically supporting Obama up until about two weeks ago. This is a recent event. Now they can't stump enough for the guy.
Sorry, this is a little phony to me.
Lord. 50 appearances and their convention speeches and still they're phony.
Whatever.
If a tree falls in a forest and nobody hears it...
We can blame the MSM for not reporting the Clinton's support for Obama in the past.
previus posts. Lordy.
I think it is beautiful how the Democratic may fight the good fight in the primaries. They may win or lose, and fight more, but at the end Democrats unit for the betterment of the country.
I thank Senator Clinton and President Clinton. At the end, the love of our country got their better side.
The best part: the republiCONs are going to be soooooooooooo jealous to see the Democratic Party so united as ever before.
Oh, the defeat of McCain/Palin is going to be so devastating that the republiCON party will not recover for many decades.
Living it and loving it.
I will respectfully disagree. The Clinton support has been spotty and late in coming.
I concur.
Sounds less like you're talking about current events, and more about certain blue dresses.
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Well played!
Hillary and Bill Clinton have been consistently campaigning on behalf of Barack Obama, something they certainly don't have to do. It was mentioned earlier, after all, that Hillary Clinton has done more for the presidential candidate than any other runner-up in history.
Together, Hillary and Bill Clinton have made over fifty stops across the United States, as was mentioned earlier too. Simply because the national news media doesn't cover the rallies doesn't mean they don't exist. Poor Joe Biden receives little to no coverage himself, but believe me, that's not indicative of how hard he's fighting.
They had two choices: Fade into a shunned and bitter irrelevance or get out and do their duty.
In this election, abandoning the PARTY (regardless of Barack and the primaries) would have been seen as the ultimate, "Et tu, Brutus?"
If Hill and Bill are to have any semblance of relevance in the future of American politics, it was not only their duty to use ALL their mass and gravity for the Dems (Barack), but one can be certain that any failure to give all would be noted and held in account against their legacy.
If you stare too closely at something, you can eventually lose all perspective and context. The reality is that during any presidential election, you see very little of the runners-up post-primaries. Where's Bill Richardson? Where's Dennis Kucinich? Where's Chris Dodd? I could go on. No one expects them to spend their own money campaigning on Barack Obama's behalf. He won, and they lost.
So, they go back to work.
While it's interesting that you think you can tell political veterans like former President Bill Clinton what he needs to do if he's "to have any semblance of relevance in the future of American politics," I'm far from impressed. Th Clintons've spent a heck of a lot of their own money to appear over fifty times across the United States on behalf of Barack Obama. Your hypothetical griping about what they should do ignores that they've already met your requirements and then some!
In short, Bill and Hillary Clinton have been actively campaigning on behalf of Barack Obama. They're creating a precedent for support from a presidential nominee runner-up, because what they're doing is unheard of. I cannot stress any of this enough. I think it's time you admit that in your eyes, Hillary and Bill Clinton simply can't win. It seems to be that simple!
"Now, eight short years later, we've had to add a digit to the debt clock,"
Conservatives: econometrically proven to be an order of magnitude worse.
Over $30,000 national debt per man, woman, and child in the USA.
or $90,000 per household (based on a 120 million household figure)
Scary numbers, esp for the people who are going to have to pay the debt off over the coming decades/centuries.
I hope Bill agrees to help out the next administration.
I saw Hillary in PA yesterday and at one point it sounded like she was absolutely bragging about the fact that she has done more, as a defeated runner-up, to help the person now heading the ticket than anybody else in American history.
1. I believe she's correct
2. She has EVERY right to brag about that fact!
I didn't support her in the primary, but let me give her a hearty "You go, girl!!!"
The only thing the MSM likes better than being wrong is a horse race. This state will be "very, very, close". Really? electoral-vote.com has Obama up 13pts. The reporter even contradicts himself later saying it's a double digit lead. How can he say "very, very close" in one sentance then turn around later and admit Obama has a double digit lead in the same report? No wonder I rarely pay attention to the msm anymore. The reporter takes it a step futher by trying to stoke a little PUMA (I guess to make it a horse race) by saying he looked into Hillary's eyes and saw she wasn't over it. Maybe the reporter can look in Putin's eyes next and tell us what he sees?
Joke reporting if ever there was.
counter "smear baby smear!" with "truth baby truth!"
The Interviewer looked into her eyes and could tell she was going to be the good the soldier? Who is he, George Bush?
What a joke our media is.
Did some of you actually think they were going to let the repugs win?
Did you actually think they wouldn't contribute to getting Obama elected?
A lot of people dissed the Clintons.
Me? I still like them.
It's called waiting for the final push.
You know the repugs will attack them. Waiting till this point makes sense. This doesn't give the repugs anytime to respond. Along with all the other screw ups coming from McCains campaign. This is a tactical lightning bolt.
WCCO-TV (CBS) reported today that there are 2-1/2 people unemployed for every job opening in Minnesota. Our Repub governor, Pawlenty, is running our state into the ground with his shortsighted policies. I'd take the Clinton years back in a heartbeat.
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