Is John McCain's new mortgage "plan" illegal?
Keith reports on how John McCain is still searching for an economic message to grab on to. Come on, people...scurrilous and relentless smearing can only cut into Obama's lead in the polls so much.
"Since Senator McCain has become fond of posing everything he says in the form of a question: With the Dow already Dow 17% for the week so far, do you think, Senator McCain, that Americans give a crap about rehabilitated 60's radical William Ayers? With the Dow on track for it's biggest weekly percentage drop ever, do you believe, Senator McCain, that voters would be in favor of your self-named 'American Home Ownership Resurgence Plan' if they realize that it would resurge only the balance sheets of financial institutions, passing all their losses to American taxpayers?"
As if McCain's erratic flailing on the paramount issue of the election weren't enough, Marc Ambinder is reporting that McCain's new "plan" may actually be illegal under the terms of the bailout bill he "suspended" his campaign in order to pass. I kid you not.
Folks who are much more savvy on the specifics of the Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) wonder whether the government's $700 billion bailout/rescue program expressly prohibits what John McCain now says he wants to do -- and that is to have the government buy distressed mortgages at face value from banks and renegotiate their terms with homeowners.
They point me to Section 101e of the law, which requires the Secretary of the Treasury to "take such steps as may be necessary to prevent unjust enrichment of financial institutions participating in a program established under this section"
So if they buy it at face value, wouldn't they violate the law?
It's almost as if Obama doesn't even have to talk about the economy anymore. McCain is doing enough damage to himself.
UPDATE: (Nicole) The Public Campaign Action Fund has put together a report (.pdf) that shows that McCain's plan has his lobbyist buddies' fingers all over it. The WSJ said today that it would benefit lenders, including predatory ones. More from PCAF here.
This is a scam by McLame.
This is my first first on the new C+L. I world like to thank my family and friends who made it possible. Thank you to John Amato who has made this blog what it is today. Thank you to Nicole Belle for her blogging with passion and all the rest of the bloggers.
Why is it that McShame is always ready to break the law? And why is it that he is always ready to enrich his buddies. Hey, hey, I just got it. Phil Gramm and Carly Fiorona hatched this idiotic idea in the back room while reminiscing about the good ole days.
Why should it come as a surprise at all that something this man suggest is unlawful or illegal?
Everything he touches has some smarmy aspect to it. This has been McCain's record in congress and will continue to be this man's reputation.
He's a maverick, okay. An illegal maverick.
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Wow...McSpain just CAN'T help but break the law...
Laws? What Laws?
Laws are for working stiffs! That's why the McCain Crew are busy interfering with that nasty old investigation into flailin' Palins abuse of power in Alaska.
We're Republicans!
We don't need to follow no steenkin' laws you betcha!
Over $150 TRILLION dollars of hedge funds, derivatives and financial instruments were created on a base value of $1.5 trillion in real property values. And with every transaction, "they" took more money for themselves.
Actually SP you should be asking Phil Gramm (a McCain campaign adviser) this question.
As an Independent, I'm writing to inform posters about the obvious change in CNN which was once a respectable news giant. No more.
Now it's the "John Roberts Show" - he's on the morning, the afternoon, and early evening spinning a totally biased, lockstep message where once they had responsible, professional, ethical journalism.
John Roberts in his obvious bias has now totally discredited CNN as a legitimate, fair, honest news program which americans cannot count on for truthful information.
Case in point: Yesterday he swung from one fear-mongering topic to the next without even coming up for air....from ACORN problems and the potential for election problems....to suggesting and propogating another terrorist attack on this country. Where is John Roberts' sense of morality? Where is John Roberts' send of americanism? Oh I forgot, he's a canadian and not an american - so why the hell have they provided a day-long arena for this hate-filled bigot to present his "fear and smear campaign" on the american people.
Write to CNN today and tell them that they've finally slid down the slippery slope of fear mongering and hate messaging and the american people are no longer watching any of their programming.
CNN has become an overt anti-american network and John Roberts has destroyed their reputation nationally. If they continue to provide this McCain sycophant to dominate their programming, I hope their network totally fails.
CNN needs to check their Nielsons this week because with the thrusting of John Roberts and his biased, lockstep agenda along with the fear mongering and hate-filled agenda, americans are now rejecting CNN.
CNN - shape up or become irrelevant ciphers.
Get this fool off the air or become extinct.
Contact CNN at this website. Let them know how you feel.
well it could be if you think about it hard enough!
Never mind that he wants to break the law on a technicality. What the fuck is he talking about paying 100% value for these mortgages. They have already been written down in a lot of cases by over 50%. Why in the world would McSlime offer to pay 100%? I don't think that he knows anything about economics.
Oh wait…
This is getting tiresome. McCain looks like an old fool. Ayers? Who gives a shit! I find these almost sad. Remember, I said almost.
What I find most telling is how Roberts insisted on mentioning ACORN yesterday but never mentioned the "illegal purging of voters in 6 swing states".
What convinces me even more that CNN cannot be trusted to bring us truth in news is that during this critical period in this election, suddenly Wolf Blitzer is "on vacation"??? ahem! Do they think we believe this for one moment? Patently untrue. Fact is that John Roberts is McCain's CNN "attack dog" - no different from any other McCain pimp on the stump.
It's time to call for the removal of John Roberts from our prime time news. He's a sycophant; he presents half truths; he's trying to incite fear in the american people.
Reject John Roberts and demand that CNN remove him from his "bully pulpit" today.
CNN wants this election to reamin close so they will have more viewers. They are stoking the flames just to get more viewers.
CNN and their lockstep sycophant John Roberts can stoke all they want; they're actually fanning their own flames of irrelevancy. If they want the Republican base of 27% viewership, then I say: stoke away.
However, if they want the respect of the rest of the country in terms of viewership, then they must change their tactics immediately.
According to the Nielson ratings, CNN is dropping like the Titanic. And with their "golden boy" John Roberts at the helm, they have no alternative but to sink to the bottom - like the rest of the bottom feeders such as Fox News.
Fox News = CNN - that's the impression sweeping across america this week.
Fox News + CNN - Total bottom feeders sucking and spewing slime and sleaze.
It's obvious that CNN has made their choice in plastering the ugly mug of John Roberts on their screen throughout the day so their reputation as mud slingers and terrorist enablers is also becoming patently clear to the american people.
CNN has nothing americans want to see any longer. I think it's sad for good people like Anderson Cooper to have to be affiliated with this stinking, tanking news program.
Under McCain's budget, we the taxpayers, will lose $500 million, folks!
That's a huge chunk of change coming out of our pockets which will be CNN's "bribe money" or "reward" for presenting biased messages.
$500 million!! That's what CNN (Time Warner) stands to get in McCain bribe money from their tax breaks under his leadership.
Appalled enough?
is there any wonder why networks are pimping? $500 million to CNN alone is a huge benefit, at the taxpayer's expense and at the expense of state funded programs for the people. Once again, the fascists get richer and richer and the american middle class suffers. Protest this obvious payoff money to these networks today.
Here's the lowdown:
GE (NBC) - $25 million in tax breaks under McCain's plan
CNN (Time Warner) - $500 million in tax breaks " "
Walt Disney (ABC) - $640 million in tax breaks " "
FOX (news corp) - $80 million in tax breaks " " "
CBS (Viacom) - $190 million in tax breaks " "
Folks, this is downright VULGAR. There's no other word for it.
Protest today by boycotting the programming of these 5 networks. Then boycott the products and services which are their lifeblood.
To imagine that $1.44 million in tax breaks would be granted to these networks while americans are starving, losing their jobs, and losing their life savings is AMORAL, VULGAR, AND CRIMINAL.
One of my least favorite talking points is the myth of the tax and spend liberal, but for some reason it's being pushed around by the McCain campaign.
McCain summed it up when he expressed concerns for businesses leaving the US when asked why he had a problem with Obama shifting the tax burned to large businesses. Obama's response about tax loopholes (this was all in the first debate) was quite good.
If we'd have had the billions of dollars George Bush gave away to the Fortune 500 companies in tax breaks and did not spend $10 billion every month on this illegal, amoral war in Iraq, just imagine where the economy of this country would be today??
The people shouting epithets and threats really scare me. How long before undecided voters actually think there is some validity in what the politician says he's not saying and then says anyway or in what the people the MSM is giving a forum to by publishing it on TV and Print Media.
Some of their rantings are simply not true and some of these people ought to be investigated by FBI. SCARY.
Actually if you remove the fear factor and study it, it shows one how astounding the power of the media brainwashing and propoganda can be.
I especially enjoyed this one.
Obama's a terrorist just look at his name!"
You don't have to be afraid of these people.
Or anything
the american media is on trial right now and the american people will choose the winners and losers.
Fox has joined the slimey ranks of Fox News - tabloid news reporting. CNN once had integrity; now it's just another gang of scumbags trying to rev up the sensationalism instead of talking about the thing that matters most to the american people - WHO CAN GET OUT THE HELL OUT OF THE MESS BUSH PUT US IN?
The jury's out: McCain rallies have become dangerous to the health, life and safety of their base.
To me, this has become the central issue of the election. The amount of hatred that has been spawned by McCain's campaign may take years to cool down. Whether you support Obama or McCain, you should be concerned about the Republican ticket's refusal to shutdown the screams calling for violence at their rallies. We should all also be concerned about the kind of gridlock we're going to see in government because so much damage has been done by this kind of campaigning. At the end of the day, it may be a completely different world when one of these candidates take office. Any solutions they try to spoon-feed us now will probably be useless by the end of next January. We should not be alienating the very people we will have to work with in order to revolve this very serious crisis. In this respect, the McCain/Palin ticket is inflicting terrible damage on our chances of uprighting this boat any time soon.
Please...someone has to stop John McCain before he beats on an old man again.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Hey it's the OLD FARTS against Young America. The adults are in charge right?
The song remains the same.
Knock it off with the old vs. young BS.
I've never voted Repug in my life, and I'm old enough to be a geezer!
If you've seen some of the videos of people standing in lines to McCain rallies - you see stupid people of all ages.
They're mostly white though.
Aw, crap; I can't win...
Screw the distraction tactics of JohnRoberts and tabloid mentality.
It's the economy right now and will be through election day, Mr. Stupid!
"If the President does it, it's legal". For any of you youngun's that don't recognize that quote. "I am not a crook". Why are people just catching on to this now?. I posted on it right after he made the proposal during the debate.
just said banks have lost their "confidency!!" I kid you not!!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
That's kinda like "strategery" right?
So now he's back in the running for idiot of the day - McCain's "my fellow prisoners" and Bush's "confidency"? Two morons in the same pod.
WTF? Sound like he wrote that speech himself...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
CNN has just officially joined Fox News in the heated race for the most non-issue of the day! Thanks to their chief propagandist, John Roberts, they may be edging out Fox News in the competition for the Best Bush/McCain Propaganda Megaphone award. I'm putting my bets on CNN right now. With Mr. Propaganda & Spin himself, John Roberts, they're certain to win.
I heard McCain woke up this morning.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
the real question is not whether he awoke this morning; the question is how many turns of the crank on his back they've given him and how much meds are on board. We've watched him run totally out of gas and brain power and I don't want to be any more embarrassed for him than I already am.
Just saw Obama speak live from a rally in a small city in Ohio. It was the best short speech I've seen him give yet. I expect his campaign to post the speech on their YouTube channel.
"Our destiny is not written for us, it's written by us. That's who we are. And that's the country we need to be right now."
"Even as we face the most serious economic crisis of our time. Even as you are worried about keeping your job, or paying your bills, or staying in your home, my opponent's campaign announced last week that they plan to, quote, 'turn the page' on the discussion about our economy so they can spend the final weeks of this election attacking me. Senator McCain's campaign actually said and I quote, "If we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose."
Great stuff.
before CNN rudely cut away to Shrub's drivel. Great stuff indeed!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
That speech was so positive and so good. I went from being in a funk to cheering, Damn straight!
Too bad the people who don't have cable will never hear his speeches because if everyone heard them he would win big time!
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Revolution; Society's Market Correction.
OT but evidence of more McCain Palin lies:
The Pray Pipeline? You just can't make this %hit up, folks!
New York Times is at least doing their job.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/11/us/politics...
It began, I believe, with Lou Dobbs and his hateful, divisive shows.
Now it's clear that there is no way that McCain will get support of any Independents so what was once a fair and balanced network has done the old bait and switcheroo on the american people.
It occurred in stages over the past week and they're hoping that their lie about Blitzer's vacation will be believed. It is not and the Independents will not give CNN the opportunity to regain their trust and respect.
CNN's just like Fox News - biased, bigoted, and spinning half truths.
Mr. Roberts is their "chief hitman".
Media whores for the right-wing agenda, say good bye to the bulk of your audience - 37% Democrats and 40% Independents. Hope you're happy with a 27% showing in the Nielsen ratings.
One more shot for my one desire for this campaign season to come true, and I remain hopeful.
Grandpa's Edsel of a campaign has lost a wheel, he's driving on the wrong side of the road, he's got his left blinker on, and the kids are screaming for more red meat in the back seat...can loss of bladder control really be that far away.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
but it seems that McCain's attack ads are doing him more harm than good. His most extreme supporters want even more aggressive attacks against Obama and that is really turning a lot of people off. McCain is isolating himself more and more. If he keeps this up all he will have left are the most extreme of supporters while the other more moderate people that once supported him will go to Obama.
do you mean just Hannity?
If you need funds to pay for essentials, you have a revenue problem
If you need funds to pay for frivolity, you have a spending problem
The Problems caused by the Greed of the past 8+ years is rippling across the world. Thailand Markets fell 10% during the last trading session.
When bush just spoke there were boos and jeers through the common room of the condos.
Obama HAS to win this election or the world will go into chaos and perhaps World War. The situation is indeed serious when looked at on a global view.
With all due respect to the good people of Thailand, you can't have him 'till we're done trying him...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
While they have their hitman-in-chief pretending to present legitimate, unbiased facts, CNN had their little propaganda ticker running underneath "McCain camaign clears Palin in wrongdoing"....ahahahahahah!
This is priceless. The Troopergate report isn't even out yet and they've decided she's cleared regardless of what the report concludes.
Is this like their ridiculous "McCain wins debate" scheme? Makes CNN and McCain camp look like a bunch of idiots.
It's clear that the troopergate findings will tank the McCain campaign or be the final nail in their coffin. Palin epitomizes precisely what the people loathe about the Bush administration - vengeance, abuse of power, claims of executive privilege - and it's all right there in the Troopergate scandal.
They can say all they want about the Palin's doing this in order to "protect their family" and I guess this shows us how ignorant they are. It's not up to a Governor to police her people; that's what law enforcement is all about and restraining orders. Get a life, Palin - your Moose is cooked now.
regarding what I am about to say.
IF...and I said IF...Obama wins the White House it is VERY important that we remember to do EVERYTHING that Sean Hannity has told us to to be good Americans.
When the "media"...you know...the Hannity, O'Reilly, Levin, Savage, Limbaugh media...attack every policy put forth by President Barack Obama...we must call those attacks...unamerican...and criticize the attackers for their lack of respect for the Office of the President and the President himself.
When the troop withdrawals begin...and the criticism begins...we must remind those criticisers that they are criticising the troops.
When the so-called conservative experts criticize economic policy...we must point out the positives for working people...remind them that the middle class is the engine that drives the economy...and scold them for being pro big business, anti worker, anti middle class and consequeently...ANTI AMERICAN.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
The american public's rejection of lies, spin, and downright bullshit has reached a critical mass. I expect that Obama will win not by only a small margin, but by an unprecedented landslide. The people are calling out these frauds en masse now and will continue to do so.
We're calling the networks and making it clear that if they want to remain on the air with the support of the american people, then we want truth and facts....not just biased, bigoted bullshit and spin.
Short of that, en masse we are boycotting. We are boycotting today the "Fab Five Networks of the Reichstag" and will continue to do every day unless/until they reinstate the respect of the american people. Their advertisers are suffering and will continue to suffer as more americans refuse their products and services.
from Clannity. Listening to that phrase be used as the racist "secret handshake" between him and his listeners is truly gut-wrenching...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Actually, it's more important than ever that Obama keep talking about the economy, and specifically about whether or not McCain's plan is illegal. Why? Because most of the sheeple in this country won't look far enough into the details to *realize* that it's illegal, so as far as they know he's not doing anything wrong.
Remember, it's only illegal IF YOU GET CAUGHT. (And even then, IOKIYAR. But that's beside the point.)
The DJ dropped 500 points within minutes, it worked its way back up to minus 50, the Reptile in Chief came on and the market dropped 300.
Nationalize the Banking system in its entirety, send the executives out for re-education in honest work and start over.
One hundred and fifty Trillion in Gambler's IOUs from one and one half Trillion in Real Assets!
One hundred to one.
There is a prescription for bankruptcy.
It appears that the evidence may show that the harassing and threatening actions of the Palin family and particularly that of Sarah in her position as Governor were illegal. This should mean that charges of criminal conduct will be attached to them. What will this mean in terms of penalty? Impeachment from office? Jail time? What exactly does this mean?
Early reports of this investigation indicated that criminal penalties would be assessed.
If she's under the umbrella of McCain's campaign who are basically Bushies, then uh....it means nothing. Maybe if they lose the election, she'll work for FoxNews as a pundit. That seems to be the punishment for a bad Republican these days.
McCain, the liar, can trivialize Troopergate all he wants but the american people recognize that what occurred is precisely the same "Bush/Rovian mindset" which has destroyed this country from the top down.
The people are standing up to this form of mind game. By prefacing the results of this "republican generated" investigation, it will now take on a power of it's own.
You will hear audible "boos" every time Paliban takes the stage in this country. She is a "symptom of the necrotic cancer" of the Bush Administration of smoke and mirrors, lies and deceit.
This report will take on a life of it's own, despite what sycophants like John Roberts or Sean Hannity do to downplay it.
We get to decide what's important to us and we will use Troopergate as a "symptom" of what's destroying this country today.
What does John McCain, Sarah Palin, John Roberts, and Sean Hannity have in common?
IF THEIR MOUTHS ARE MOVING, THEY'RE LYING.
It's obvious that the McCain campaign has given up with the issues and being sane.
They're onto plan D. Incite violence and trigger a psychopath to do something bad to the Democratic candidate:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/144...
one paste eater: “Get him. He’s bad for our country.”
That's f*cked up. Nixon was before my time, but has there been any other campaign worse than McCain's?
I have to wonder where our tremendous law enforcement is right now as these rallies turn to violence and death threats????
Why are these people not sent off in handcufs?
Maybe it's because like everything else in the Bush administration, our law enforcement is a joke?
you know, those "serious" crimes...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
StirFry...Nixon only spied on his enemies...McCain provokes people to kill his enemies.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
That's what I thought. It seems that McCain has gone completely "Saigon" crazy.
powers at hand to suspend these evictions until things can be sorted out, but he won't because he's part of the cabal that's trying to destroy America and has been so for quite some time even before ascending to the presidency.
but he says this could cost $300B.
I say that no one really knows how much it would cost unless someone comes up with a dollar amount of original mortgages, their devalued home value and how many people would want to stay in that home. Then there would be the unoccupied homes that would be on the market for whatever they could fetch.
I got me a $2M dollar home, but I can only afford a $200k home. I want the taxpayers to make up the $1.8M so I may live in the style I would like to become accustomed to.
If you need funds to pay for essentials, you have a revenue problem
If you need funds to pay for frivolity, you have a spending problem
The Pretzelnit is either in a coke induced trance...or he is basically wetting himself out of sheer fear of the realization that he has been in over his head since 2000...and now he's so deep...there is no way out.
He never succeeded at ANYTHING in his life. He is a fraud and a fake.
He is the prenultimate loser. A trust fund baby who's family covered for his indiscretions and failings. He's never had to face a REAL CRISIS. The public is no longer fooled...so his bad policies are now laid bare for all to see.
He will leave the White House the same way he came in. With an angy American public that feels cheated...and with egg on his limousine.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Cnn has been in the tank with the right wing for a long time. Where have you folks been?
Apogies to Barack Obama
I'm sure he'd prefer these:
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What does John McCain, Sarah Palin, John Roberts, and Sean Hannity have in common?
IF THEIR MOUTHS ARE MOVING, THEY'RE LYING.
Or they're sucking someone's dick.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Where are the police at these vulgar, hateful rallies?
Where is the justice under the Patriot Act?
Or is the Patriot Act a sham, too?
I'm sure you know the answer to that last question...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
If you expected to hear anything new from bush this morning, you didn't.
He sounded like he was talking to someone who had just awakened after being in coma for the last month. Same old shit with most likely the same old results.
McCain has become a dangerous joke. His idea bag is empty with nothing inside but dust. So he's going to go down screaming Bill Ayres. Only the simple minded folks are still listening to him. This last debate should be like the last moments of a bull fight. Obama needs to verbally put him out of his political misery.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
The Republicans never worry about something they do being illegal. The law is only for Democrats and poor people.
from the insolence of the Unruly!
WASHINGTON (AFP) - Tens of thousands of voters in at least six battleground states have been removed from election rolls or have been illegally blocked from registering to vote, according to an investigation by the New York Times published Thursday.
Here's the proof of the CNN bias:
The illegal purging of thousands of voters illegally by the GOP and Mr. Roberts brings up ACORN?
John Roberts: You are an unamerican disgrace.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Tens_of_thousan...
This should be headline news! Never mind some trivial ACORN non-story here - probably the GOP was in the middle of that one, too. I have no doubt about that.
But here's something which is criminal and the people need to call for the immediate reinstatement of the illegal purge of voters NOW.
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Tens_of_thousan...
on this thread?
Let's get moving here get on the economy.
Again...if you live long enough...you see everything.
It was only a matter of time until the deception of supply side economics, the three card monte politics of Lee Atwater and Karl Rove, the xenophobia and race baiting, the character assasinations and all the rest would result in a blowback that would threaten to consume everything and everyone.
If that day is not here today...it is very close.
Now is when I am most fearful. I pray that if this government does only one job correctly from now until election day...and perhaps beyond...that job is to ensure the safety of Barack Obama.
We are in a very dangerous atmosphere now, kiddies. The country is ANGRY...on both sides. The wingnuts are angry because their worst nightmare, a black man in the White House, is likely to come true. REAL Americans are angry...because they now feel cheated after 28+ years of Republican politics.
It is not a good mixture.
Only John McCain, as the leader of his party, can lower the volume and the temperature of his "base". Let's see if the war hero is man enough to accept the responsibility...and actually get it done.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Only John McCain, as the leader of his party, can lower the volume and the temperature of his "base". Let's see if the war hero is man enough to accept the responsibility...and actually get it done.
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McCane may be the nominee, but he doesn't pull the strings. Getting him to make a statement to tone down the rhetoric is probably only going to be wishful thinking.
I'm sure Obama realizes the risks he's taking. I would not wwant to be in his shoes.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
is the Puke meme, "voter fraud."
They won't report the "election theft" meme, because it might cause doubts that this is NOT the best of all possible systems, the most honorable of all election machinery, the best Kunchry in the whole world, doggone it...
*SCUM = So Called Unbiased Media
I guess the proof is in the pudding or in this case, in the polls. The polls are indicating that the recent smears and inciting people to violence and death threats at their rallies is TOTALLY BACKFIRING IN THEIR FACES.
All any american needs to as himself is this: Do these hate-filled rallies make you feel "safer today" or "less safe". The answer is an obvious one.
McCain makes yet another erratic, amateurish move and this one's backfiring, too.
BY THE INCITEMENT TO VIOLENCE BY MC CAIN AND HIS PUPPETS AT THESE RALLIES, WILL YOU FEEL 'SAFE WITH THIS MAN IN OFFICE'?? OR 'LESS SAFE'?
They've answered that question this past week and have finally sealed their fate.
William Ayers for Secretary Of Defence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I understand this being a partisan site, and most that post on here Dem supporters, but I have a question. Why does everyone think that it will be the end of the US if Obama is not elected? What difference does everyone think he will REALLY make? I've listened to his popular crowd speeches, and they are all high on JFK rhetoric, but short on any possible solutions to ending the global depression that is on it's way. McCain's are no better. They both sound like used car salesmen right now, trying to bullshit their way to the Whitehouse. Personally I don't think either one of these two people getting elected will make any difference whatsoever on what happens to the economy. At the end of the day, economies worldwide will be collapsing, and no amount of taxpayer bailouts are going to make any difference. When are one of these two guys going to actually offer some kinds of solutions?
Clearly, we cannot believe anything we hear in the mainstream media - so americans are asking themselves this integral question - who has the steady composure of persona to even begin to tackle the myriad of issues and crises surrounding us right now?
Clearly, it's not McCain; clearly again, it's Barack Obama.
Don't believe any of the nonsense you hear on the fascist news programs.
Under the sway of the exceptionalist delusion, even smart people ignore history, and bestow upon the "future" a dispensation that has long since been reduced to ashes.
They think, that is, that there's still time to change things, to fix things, to reverse the past and reclaim the future, and that the Dims are the way to achieve this remarkable, improbable, unlikely outcome...
Yeah, right.
Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43, together with their repug cohorts in congress have proven that they are incapable of running an economy.
They have proven that they have no clue how to exercise foreign policy other than by threats of war and ctual war.
They do not see the constitution of guaranteeing all equal rights and control over their own body.
Repugs are the most dishones bunch of people that I have ever encountered as a species.
If you need funds to pay for essentials, you have a revenue problem
If you need funds to pay for frivolity, you have a spending problem
McCain has just lost the only strength he has had in the polls. By inciting to violence and his own willingness to have his surrogates violate the Patriot Act at their rallies, McCain has finally destroyed the single thing which he's had as a possible strength.
As youself: Do you feel safer with McCain? Or do you feel that McCain, by his own actions, has engaged in actions to incite violence in the public square this past week?
The answer is obvious.
Didn't Biden come up with this idea FIRST in the VP debates?
(Or, if not first, at least before McCain did in the Town Hall "debate".)
Why isn't he being chastised for saying such a terrible thing on a highly watched national forum?
but if memory serves...what Biden recommended was the following:
1) allow courts to adjust loan agreements, in conjunction with both the borrower and lender, to amend terms, forgive a PORTION of debt, and adjust rates...so that the homeowner could keep their home, and the bank would continue to have a performing loan.
2) in instances where it was simply not feasible for the borrower to pay...Biden and Obama want the bankruptcy laws changed...basically returned to the pre-GOP financial services firm sweetheart deal state...which would allow bankruptcy coverage for the homeowner to pay their other bills and not have to forfeit their home.
That is my recollection.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
I appreciate your follow up, but do me a favor, click the "Reply" in my post (instead of "Post New Comment") so that I get notified that you responded to me. If I didn't feel like coming back and looking for new comments, I wouldn't have known you responded!
I'll take what you've said and look into it further. Thanks for the direction!
How sad this unscrupulous McShameless/Paling bunch of thugs have reduced the GOP to a bag of vulgar idiots. They run on fears and smears, shameless lies, white supremist, idiotic, incompetence. Palin refers to herself as "Attack Dog", "Pitbull"; but has shown herself to be just a snarling mongrel. Well, we the intelligent Americans will not fall for their nastiness. The Country is imploding because of the Bush/McCain policies of the last 8 years, and this is all they can come up with? Blame Sen. Obama for something that a guy did 40 years ago? We already see the Characters of McShame/Paling in their mob mentality "rallies"; and it's an ugly picture. Guess they thought we were too stupid to notice their characters are showing every time they open their slimy mouths and spew out more toxic garbage. They've sold their souls. Now they even tried to show us for fools by having "plants" and RNC people stand up at their hate rallies and "beg" for more attacks on Sen. Obama, the only Honorable one running for President. We the intelligent and normal Americans will not fall for their hateful tactics. What is a scary concern is that there may be likeminded people who would actually vote to put these two incompetent, vicious people in charge of this wonderful Country of ours. Shame on them.
Never has there been such a lethal and volatile atmosphere right now. I hope things stay safe in the USA.
The Bottom Feeders are on a 'suicidal bombing path to discredit Obama. My guess they will start an all out smothering up of Troopergate by blaming the economic crash on the Dems. and put the fear up people if they vote Democrat, something like- you will lose your homes and jobs and probably liberty. I reckon it is going to get that bad folks. The insanity is beginning to boil over. Encouraging a lynch mob mentality is already here. I only hope the Dems strategy is clever and strong, because they are going to need it.
What we're witnessing right now is the precise thing that labels individuals as "domestic terrorist". It's alive and well at the McCain Palin rallies and they're continuing to breed it.
McCain & Palin have become public enemies and the enemies of the security and safety within this country by their actions in inciting to violence. THEY have become the enemy they so often talk about.
They're talking directly about themselves.
We're witnessing McCain's PTSD in full flagrantia today. We're witnessing this man's lame attempt to regress this country back to the 60's. The rest of the country functions in the 21st century; McCain does not.
By bringing up the Ayers meme and the anti-war movement of the 60's Vietnam, he forgets that the baby boomers were anti-war back then just as most of american is anti-Iraq today. He's opening an old wound for many of us, even republicans, who draw identical parallels to Vietnam and what it did to the reputation of american and how the Iraq War is tanking this country right now.
It's clear that McCain's personal "comfort zone" happens to relate to his disease of PTSD - he's calling "fellow prisoners" as though he's back in his prison camp; he's trying to bring back things someone did back then when Obama was 8 years old.
I've seen this syndrome in nursing homes, too. Their short term memory is shot but their long-term memory has kicked in full-time.
This is called "senile dementia", folks. Senile Dementia and PTSD are McCain's problems.
Don't let McCain off the hook. He is the FACE of the GOP. That is a fact...Presidential nominees always are.
I understand that the GOP is splintered...I talked about that yesterday.
But...McCain is out in front of the public...he is the LEADER.
It is up to him to lead.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
In Pa. alone, the GOP lost 68,000 voters. The GOP will be no more after this election. Splintered is putting it mildly. The New GOPher face is John Sydney McCain.
Just name any problem, my friends, and McCain "knows how to do it" to fix that problem.
Just once I would like to hear someone ask him how he plans to fix these things that he claims he knows how to do.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
I think someone counted and prepared a video on how many times this fool made this comment.
Obviously, he doesn't "get" that he's shooting himself in the foot by saying it.
All one has to do is listen to McCain's own words about "being proud to have supported Bush's policies over 90% of the time"; that's right, he's said this repeatedly.
If he knows how to get so much done, why are we in the mess we're in right now?
If he knows how to get so much done, what has he accomplished in 26 years?
Problem is: His voting record and his efforts to deregulate Wall Street are precisely what he "knew how to do"....and now we're all being asked to pay for it.
I think Cindy McCain needs to cough up some of her millions to help Wall Street myself - along with Donald Trump.
wow.........mccain is in La Crosse WI...stumpimg telling us how great he is and how terrible obama is. the new
strategy must be for mccain to mention the 'middle class'. he's talking the projector again....he seems
desperate....frantic.
It was an observatory not a microscope but hell, McSenile wouldn't know the difference if he stood in one and was looking through another.
Are you watching bobble head Cindy behind him? Making appropriate faces to coincide with his remarks and shaking her head yes or no in the same way.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Re: Is John McCain's new mortgage "plan" illegal? New
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 08:29 — pissed off patricia
Just name any problem, my friends, and McCain "knows how to do it" to fix that problem.
Just once I would like to hear someone ask him how he plans to fix these things that he claims he knows how to do.
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He doesn't want to tltgraph his punches.
Fomenting hatred is easy for Palin.
1) she associates with hate groups and their leaders
2) she is a secessionist...so she has no respect for America or her people.
3) her personal behavior clearly shows who she is. Last nite I watched her on the stump...as she was walking off stage...her young daughter was walking behind her...tapping on Mommy's back...any parent KNOWS that action...that call for a little attention by a baby...well...the shrew kept walking down the stairs and towards her handlers...she NEVER turned around to face that kid. To a parent, such as myself...it was APPLAING. This is the real Sarah Palin...totally focused on one thing...her own ambitions and needs...just like John McCain. Both of them would shoot their mothers in the face if it would win them the White House.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
That's why Independents are beginning to hate Sarah Palin. By the end of this campaign she will either have to go into hiding or get some cosmetic surgery because she has become such a hideous national embarrassment that she won't be able to walk the streets any longer.
2) in instances where it was simply not feasible for the borrower to pay...Biden and Obama want the bankruptcy laws changed...basically returned to the pre-GOP financial services firm sweetheart deal state...which would allow bankruptcy coverage for the homeowner to pay their other bills and not have to forfeit their home.
since both Biden and Obama were instrumental in KEEPING the most draconian provisions of the last Bankruptcy bill IN the bill...
Yeah, yeah, I know Obama "voted" against it...when it was safe, and already on the floor with the provisions most desired by the Industry. But Obama voted in committee against measures that would have stripped the most avaricious provisions form the Bill...
Just like McCain voted "no" to extend money to the troops??
John McCain voted for the bill as well....or have you forgotten that?
Nice try, troll....NEXT!
Obama has called out the bully McCain...and the old fool is going to respond.
He is going to look like an old angry fool...bringing up bullshit that occurred when Obama was in GRADE SCHOOL, while the country is melting down.
McCain will end this campaign not only as a loser...but he will be pathetic and broken.
It will serve him right.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
amen and let's encourage this guy to rest at some nursing home....some elitist upscale nursing home.
What do you want to argue...the vote or the politics.
McCain likes to point at voting records. Obama voted AGAINST the bankruptcy bill. Period.
Biden is on the ticket...which means he now supports the party platform. Period.
Next.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Biden had some great remarks about McCain suggestions that Obama is something other than what he says he is. Biden said in his neighborhood if a man had something to say about another man, he said it to his face, not behind his back.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
That's why Independents are New
Fri, 10/10/2008 - 08:34 — Anonymous (not verified)
That's why Independents are beginning to hate Sarah Palin. By the end of this campaign she will either have to go into hiding or get some cosmetic surgery because she has become such a hideous national embarrassment that she won't be able to walk the streets any longer.
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She won't be able to return to her previous occupation.
She can always get a job as a moose gutter.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
oil revenue checks and meth...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
LOLOL! You mean her previous occupation as a street walker? ROFLMAO!
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
POP...you did it tooo! LOLOL!.
Can't you get Sarah out of the gutter!! LOLOLOLOLOL!
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
How's your 401K now fuckers?
McCain is tired, erratic and confused.
Just watch him calling us 'my fellow prisoners'.:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/08/mcca...
I think it's time this old man should retire and give up on his attempt to win with fear and innuendo.
Wow. How could John have forgotten that section of the law after almost singlehandedly writng the bill? Must have been from exhaustion, staying up all those nights to get it passed, my friends.
I am still very pissed off about that comment.
'Him' would not have been that offensive, but 'that' refers to a thing,
In the world of one-upmanship is Obama now entitled to refer to McLame as 'That'?
If you need funds to pay for essentials, you have a revenue problem
If you need funds to pay for frivolity, you have a spending problem
.... or not.... What a shock. McCain made some crap up that he has no plan, or no possible way of making a reality. Ideas like this never come out of the McNugget Camp.
Is it just me or does McCains head look like a McNugget?
Art VanDelay
Do you realize that every time McCain says the word "homeowner"...
he also says the word "HOMO"...??
Think about that...
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