Nightline: Biden can't believe how low McCain has sunk
By SilentPatriot Tuesday Oct 14, 2008 9:59am
Look at Joe Biden's face and listen to the inflection in his voice when he learns that the McCain campaign is distributing talking points linking Barack Obama to Osama bin Laden.
"Virginia GOP Chairman Jeffrey M. Fredericks was quoted by Time magazine as telling campaign volunteers to draw connections between Obama and Osama bin Laden."
"I don't believe it … I can't believe it," Biden said. "I'm surprised John McCain hasn't gone down and whacked the guy with his fist. I mean, I don't think there's a prejudiced bone in John McCain's body. But that kind of stuff is really off the wall. I refuse to let myself believe John McCain has anything to do with any of that."
Joe Biden's personal affection for John McCain blinds him from the reality of the campaign that's being waged. Fredericks isn't a low-level volunteer spouting off at the mouth; he's the Virginia state GOP Chairman. And it's not like McCain doesn't know what's going on. When asked specifically about it Monday on a local Virginia TV station,he refused to condemn the remarks, instead saying he would "have to look at the context." Are you kidding? How is it possible to contextualize a connection between Barack Obama and Osama bin Laden?
Open your eyes, Joe: This is the campaign John McCain has chosen to run. He's willing to win at all costs, even if that means viciously smearing Obama with the same people who viciously smeared him back in 2000. The honorable McCain has left the building.
Country first my ass.
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Believe it Joe!
It's so Joe.
Now if y'all excuse me, I need to get a cup of joe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6Bjt0Z0psY
It shows every time he's on the teevee.
That man hates the world.
Each time we see this anger-consumed man, it reeks of PTSD. McCain needs some anger management therapy and soon.
Of course Sen. Biden is going to say he can't believe McCain would stoop so low, this is the high class way to answer the question & bitch slap Johnny boy at the same time. That's why Biden's a Senator & our VP nom cause we're smarter than those Rep assholes. (And this is why you and I aren't senators cause we couldn't hold back our mouths!)
Yup. It opens the door for McCain to man up and condemn this stuff, while clearly indicating how sleazy it is. Plus the added bonus of the visual of a angry McCain whacking someone to remind people of his notoriously bad temper. Don't think Joe could have handled it better.
My thoughts exactly! I think he's putting McCain in a position where he has to do something about it. Biden has characterized McCain as not being prejudiced and as having honor. Lack of action will show Biden to be wrong and cast McCain in a bad light. I think it's brilliant!
That's right. You can poke him in the eye and never touch the stick.
Well said. I agree Joe played that perfectly.
Actually, this is the exact same credulous attitude that got Biden and others to vote for the Iraq war.
When you assume that the people in charge (McCain, Bush, etc.) are simply unaware of what is being done in their name, when you give them the benefit of the doubt, when you assume that they are actually decent, honest people who would never stoop to underhanded tactics, then you absolve them of blame for letting these things go on.
That's not "high class," that's just enabling.
GOP intelligencia are sinking McCain's putrid sinking ship. They've finally realized something which each of us has so clearly seen - his selection of sarah Palin is "dangerous to the security of this country". McCain has put all americans at risk with his reckless selection of his veep. She's now besmerched by scandal as well.
The only plus McCain has had on his side of things has been in the national security area. With his selection of someone so dangerous to our nation right now, he's lost that edge now, too.
The comeback kid no more. McCain's campaign is totally derailed.
http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/14/dowd-risk...
Interesting, Obama's tax plans are like nailing Jello to the wall, and mcgramp's comments are off the wall. Solution: vote for the wall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_bvT-DGcWw
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Desperate McCain Campaign to Launch the ULTIMATE Negative Ad
http://satiricalpolitical.com/?p=3767
The Palin's connections to the anti US secessionist movement also put this country at serious risk.
http://www.adn.com/news/alaska/story/555288.html
Max Blumenthal on Sarah Palin’s Radical Right-Wing Pals and Her Ties to the Pro-Secessionist Alaskan Independence Party
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/13/max_bl...
"Palin has become a threat to national security"
Palin was a threat to national security the day she was selected as a VP candidate but more importantly, her supporters are a threat to national security. These are the same idiots who voted twice for a president that has wrecked out country.
McCain voted against the MLK holiday and has used the term "gooks" among other such similar items. Maybe not a prejudiced bone, but at least some cartilage or a tendon.
McCain voted against the MLK holiday and has used the term "gooks" among other such similar items. Maybe not a prejudiced bone, but at least some cartilage or a tendon.
One drop of blood is more like it, although it's the one drop in Obama's body that causes it, not McCain's.
The bus is going to be named "The Hate Talk Express"
If it weren't for the fact that the bus is under Secret Service guard during an event, that'd be a great guerilla art project to pull off - redecorate the bus in the middle of one of their
Klancampaign rallies ...."What you won't hear from this campaign or this party is the kind of politics that uses religion as a wedge, and patriotism as a bludgeon -- that sees our opponents not as competitors to challenge, but enemies to demonize." – Barack Obama, June 3, 2008
Watching Mccain now is getting a little sad. From Maverick to an old coot, rather, a RACIST old coot. Sarah should go back to Alaska. If she wins re-election for Governor, then Alaska, there is no hope for you.
Regardless of respect for McLamebrain, and numbers of years both
of you have served in the U.S. Senate, it's time for Joe B. to put
on the gloves and hit McCain and his hateful campaign right in the
mouth...or better yet, as "they" have been doing, "below the belt."
Obama wants everyone to take the high road, act presidential and vice-presidential.
I volunteer to be in charge of the vice.
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That was a subtle evisceration. Plus, he didn't get any blood on him. That's the way a professional does it.
So, they've sunken down so low that they're lying about the crowds at their rallies now?
Why am I not surprised? They can no longer distinguish truth from fiction.
The Virginia Beach Fire Marshal's office estimated the size of the crowd to be 12,000. A McCain campaign spokeswoman claimed the crowd size was 25,000, but the Convention Center's capacity is only 16,000.
Fire marshall cites 16,000 as capacity of auditorium; McCain camp lies and calls it 25,000. You have to be joshing me!
Maybe they were counting the 9,000 angles on the rooftop.
Now, be nice.
We all know Republicans have trouble counting things like votes and crowd numbers ...
This is a perfect example of how republicans can continue to get away with anything they want. Voter suppresion to the end of stealing elctions, war, wire tapping, torture... Democrats just can't beleive they'd do THAT. "No those aren't the people I know, my friends in the senate. We just disagree PROFOUNDLY on issues. They aren't bad people."
of undergrad poli-sci courses as the template for understanding political/economical organization.
The fundamental lesson, past that of family loyalty, is that "it's nothing personal, Carmine. It's just bidness that I gotta whack ya, strictly bidness." Biden's GOTTA know, too. It's how McStain could still embrace the Chimp after the platter of dirty tricks the Busheviks delivered in Campaign 2000.
True. And I don’t think either Biden or Obama take it personally. Furthermore, McCain does not appear to want control over his campaign. I always felt that after his loss to Bush in 2000 there was an understanding that if McCain supports the Bushies in 2004 he will be given the Repub campaign infrastructure that was used so successfully by Bush/Rove – all of them.
They are now in control – McCain has relinquished almost everything. He doesn’t write the speeches, make the policies, schedule his appearances, or determine any tactics. He just shows up. He expected that is what was necessary to get elected. Faust made the same mistake.
Do you all remember how Romney stepped down and the delegates booed when they were told to back McCain?
I took Poly Sci courses and we never discussed The Godfather, more like Max Hegel, Karl Marx, John Locke, Rousseau, Edward Blake, Adam Smith, Thomas Malthus and Thomas Hobbes.
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Using Coppola to teach Machiavelli
Why bother? Why not teach Machiavelli?
http://theforvm.org/diary/blaisep/contractor-...
You can't make this $hit up!
Looks like the Palin's have a lot in common with Ted Stevens, eh? This is really getting juicy now. The other connection Sarah Palin has is through her "chief lobbyist" who also functioned as lobbyist to Ted Stevens and indicted Jack Abramoff.
Someone's spilling their guts.....and the Palin's are about to be swept into a criminal trial soon like Ted Stevens.
. . .Landslide and Lies.
I can see how, looking at the numbers, o'biden feel comfortable with the likelihood of a landslide. As a result, they are playing it cool, not wishing to create any backlash.
What I can't understand, though, is their (particularly the so-called attack dog biden's) toleration for lies, stark, pure and simple lies. I hope they take a lesson from rachel maddow in pointing out the absolute lies of sarah palin. Note to obama/biden campaign: it's ok to say liar when someone is intentionally and knowingly telling or promulgating a falsehood that is documentable by direct evidence.
Looks like the First Dud's going to be regretting his comments with Greta real soon. He and a bunch of his friends built the house themselves? Spenard Building Supply is being investigated due to it's Veco ties to Ted Stevens already. Looks like there's going to be some trading of information for lesser penalty and/or criminal charges.
http://theforvm.org/diary/blaisep/contractor-...
I think Biden sincerely feels sorry for what McCain has allowed himself to become. Kind of like seeing a friend who has gotten old and allowed themselves to be manipulated for the entertainment or gain of others, who don't give a damn about him personally.
I think to Biden, it appears that McCain is being used and due to McCain's desire to become president, he is allowing himself to be molded in any way if it is a means to the desired end.
The right is pushing the false B.S about ACORN hard.
Scarah's telling Obama he needs to rein in ACORN b/c it's perpetrating rampant voter fraud. Sheesh, if anybody knows voter fraud, it's the Repubs.
And if anybody knows rabble-rousing, as we've seen lately and today, it's Palin and McCain. They'd better scale back. This is getting too serious, and they're too stupid to realize it.
SPENARD BUILDING SUPPLIES - Looks like this investigation has a lot of meat on it's bones and is moving rapidly forward. It's certain to totally tank any political career of either Sarah Palin or Todd Palin.
Alaska may call for her impeachment even before November 4 at this rate.
Senator Biden,
McCountry first would stick his tongue up OBL's ass at the site where the WTC once existed to win this election....stop being so magnanimous and diplomatic.
I'm sick and tired reading all the crap about McCain ever having been honorable.
"The honorable McCain has left the building"...
Was that the same honorable McCain who graduated at the bottom 0.20% of his class?
Was that the same honorable McCain who made propaganda tapes for the Viet Cong?
Was that the same honorable McCain who cheated on his first wife? Numerous times?
Was that the same honorable McCain who married a meal ticket who he has no problem calling a "trollop-c**t"?
Was that the same honorable McCain who was part of the Keating 5, destroying thousands of banks, and tens of thousands of retirements?
Was that the same honorable McCain who did not stand up and defend his own wife and child when they were attacked by Bush and Rove?
Was that the same honorable McCain who had a birthday party with W(imp) while New Orleans drowned?
Was that the same honorable McCain who jumped in bed with everyone he had ever condemned in the past, when it suited his new political calculations?
As with the "maverick" label, the "honorable" McCain is just a myth, spoon fed to a citizenry with a remarkable inability to remember anything more than five minutes old, and incapable of using reason.
By golly, I do believe you are 100% correctamundo!
Well, when you think about it...
Add to that the cover-up McCain effectuated about the POW's left behind in Vietnam.
This man has nothing honorable left to his name.
That was actually worse, to my way of thinking. I can understand and forgive a man for "breaking" under extreme physical torture/pain. But, I cannot understand how McCain could actully impede the investigations regarding the return of any remaining POW's in Viet Nam.
That is not only dishonorable, it is despicable that he had no regard for the POW's who we know were left behind in captivity, but for their grieving families as well.
There were no POWs left behind in Vietnam. This is a lie perpetuated to
1. Fundraise
2. Keep the USA from paying reparations for our illegal war against the Vietnamese people.
If you think the Viets. kept POWs ask yourself; why they would do such a thing? What was the gain for them? This is about the only thing I agree with McCain (and by the way John Kerry has the same view) on ie the kooks that promote this racist xenophobic claptrap don't deserve the time of day.
there's no way he wins the country.
he will just be the catalyst for a whole lot of sorrow.
This is a rapidly developing story. Here's another source for Palin's connection to Spenard/Veco and Ted Stevens - this is the same company awarded the humonguous contract for the Wasilla Sports Complex, masterminded by Sarah Palin.....for a house maybe in exchange? What a gift, eh?
This reeks of total corruption!
http://edschultz.invisionzone.com/index.php?a...
Olbermann covered this briefly on his show last night. Apparently, in Alaska, you don't have to pull permits, so it is difficult to determine exactly who worked on the Palin house. However, the house is conveniently located one mile from the Sports Complex and was built at the same time.
I think it was the Village Voice that was working on this story in depth. You may want to check them out. They may have more on it.
Yes, the Village Voice and others are now covering this developing story in depth. I believe their findings will not be well-received by John McCain because they confirm the obvious: The Palin's are unethical, and perhaps criminal, individuals.
As for the permit situation, there was a movement toward the "requiring of permits" prior to the building of her home and as Mayor she voted it down.
Gklad to see its being pursued, because it just doesn't pass the smell test and I think we can claerly see the basic nature of Palin. None of this is verified O.K?, but this is what I have sorted together from different news stories and what I know about Building Permts:
1. PALIN RESIDENCE - The Palin home was valued at $800K plus. Pricey for AK. You would expect to see an income stream to sort of match it. Granted given the oil revenues in the state, there are probably no (or limited) property taxes. How did they acquire the parcel? You can't eliminate records fro that. Who owned it before. Where did the Palins live before? There should be records for that also. Lets see the comparison of structure between before mayor/Gov and after Mayor.Gov.
2. PALIN FAMILY INCOME - Recently released tax-returns showed Todd basically writing off all of his snow-machine income with expenses, so no major income there. He does have his fishing income (unless he wrote all of that off too). Sarah has been Gov (@$125K/year) for just under two years. Mayors don't get paid much, or very little.
3. WHO BUILT IT? - Todd has claimed that he built the place with his contractor buddies. Oops, gonna regret that one, but the "dude" has to have some bragging rights. Push to see just who his contractor buddies were. Chase some invoices around, not just for building materials but also electrical and plumbing fixtures and granite tops, etc. Find out where the building materials came from. They can't have showed up free. There needs to be some sort of receipt. Either by the Palins or whoever delivered them, or supplied them (already identified).
4. Mayor Palin eliminated (?) building permits in Wasilla? Now, I'm not sure I can believe that, eliminated. That is an extreme step and I'm not so sure a mayor can do that, regardless of how back-water a-place. So were the fees for the permits eliminated or the actual plan check and the actual inspections (typically paid for by the Building permit fees) also eliminated? Scary if so. That means anyone can build damn near any POS and not meet any kind of building code (i.e electrical, water, heating). Again, if true, the local Fire Chief must be hopping mad. So there should be some sort of record, inspection, plans etc.
Something smells rotten in Wasilla. Could be totally honest, but it doesn't feel right and I think we know how she functions, so I do think there is some sort of quid-pro-quo somewhere on this. I cannot believe there was not a building permit required for the City's hockey arena. Makes no sense at all. If not then the contractor saved a lot of money, probably in the tens of thousands. Was it not inspected? I can't think so, being a public building.
You've left out Todd's 6-figure salary as a BP employee. (He only fishes one month out of the year.)
I read the house was valued at $544k, which is still a lot for Alaska.
Yes, I agree. This is going blow up. I hope she gets impeached and ends up working at the Wasilla Home Depot as the popcorn lady.
Maybe she can have her old job back as Dogcatcher, or weather girl
Or maybe she can go on a traveling side show with her crazy witch doctor pastor.
Fox will hire her.
http://www.democracynow.org/2008/10/13/max_bl...
MAX BLUMENTHAL: Beyond that, there’s more trouble ahead for Sarah Palin. She had followed a terrible McCain campaign strategy—and this is a little bit complicated—by which she would file an ethics report against herself before the State Personnel Board. And the logic behind this was that because the governor controls the State Personnel Board, you know, reports directly to the governor, she could get a favorable report on her handling of the trooper controversy, and this would have a lot of public relations value and would sort of at least exonerate her before the public. But what wound up happening was the State Personnel Board appointed another tough prosecutor, someone named Timothy Petumenos, an Anchorage—an Anchorage lawyer, who also happens to be a Democrat. And they’re going to release their report in a few weeks, and I expect that this report could be equally, if not more, devastating for Governor Palin.
AMY GOODMAN: And is that report expected to be released before the election, before November 4th?
MAX BLUMENTHAL: Yeah, I think it is.
even if mccain did win the election New
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 11:24 — Obamamite (not verified)
there's no way he wins the country.
What about the urban areas?
They have a higher density.
But they would have to be pretty damn dense to vote for mcgramps.
Take a leaf from McCain's playbook Joe and suspend your disbelief.
Come on Joe, you're up at bat here. Knock that ball outta' the park next time. I know that perhaps you're afraid if you start telling us what you really think of Sarah "Pal'in" you may just say too much, but I think you can come up with a little something more than "it's for the public to decide".
The laughter when he referred to Sarah Palin told the story. It was so widespread in the audience that even Joe had to laugh about it. He didn't have to utter a word though; the laughter response of his audience told the entire story.
Palin has become an american joke.
As for Biden sticking up for McCain, what can you charitably say about a man who is a shadow of his former self? What can you say about a man whose degree of illness has reached such outrageous proportions? How could Biden maintain the degree of integrity he's known for and tell the truth about McCain?
I applaud Joe for taking the high road. It's already a foregone conclusion that most americans believe that John McCain doesn't deserve the position, is physically and mentally incapable of performing the duties...
So tired...
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 11:21 — Pete (not verified)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-pmpgrYQgs
Here's how she blocked the recording of the names of the criminals and her "kickback" for the Wasilla sports complex:
http://markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/2008/10...
http://groups.google.com/group/talk.politics....
Hey Joe you have to QUIT defending McCrazy because he is a crazy ,angry,little old man who knows deep down that he's not going to win this election and after November he won't ever winanother election ever and he's fairly certain that the Missus is serving him with divorce papers very soon!See you at the local welfare occice, ASSHOLE!
I think Joe was genuinely shocked. So many people have been saying "this is not the John McCain that I know", that it is becoming a mantra.
I have this heavenly vision of Cindy McFacelift serving her old man the divorce papers, when he catches her in flagrante delicto, with the Guatemalan poolboy!! WAHOO!!!
Considering that McCain, Biden, and quite a few other congress critters voted to provide funds and support for both the Taliban and mujahadeen, this looks like another standard Republican deception strategy. Whatever McCain is guilty of he accuses Obama of.
"Joe Biden's personal affection for John McCain blinds him from the reality of the campaign that's being waged."
No it doesn't, you moron. It's a political strategy. Don't give the McCain campaign any ammunition to accuse the Democrats of playing dirty.
Thank you, I was just about to post this.
Joe Biden is playing his part PERFECTLY.
same old tactics by the republicans(i know they would rather be called GOP it has better goup study results).
if they talk about the economy they will lose. i'm amazed that people want more of the same: tax breaks for
the wealthy,secrecy, empowered vice president outside of constitution,ignoring the legislative branch,cronyism.....it's all there. WOW i guess people are afraid to go against their culture club. so afraid to
agree with 'liberals'. part of this movement is survival for the middleclass....i don't understand why they don't
see this. i guess it's good MARKETING by the elites/NEOCONs.
However, McCain has always been this way. He will flip flop at the drop of hat on any issue. He will gamble the lives of people if needs be to move ahead and he will do anything and everything necessary to obtain what he desires. This is the real McCain folks. He plays dirty.
"Biden can't believe how low McCain has sunk"
You betcha it's so Joe!
Today's rally in Pa. was full of death threats and where was law enforcement at this obvious violation of the patriot act? It is against federal law to issue a death threat in a public place.
It's time to shut down these lunatics for good. This behavior is appalling and Paliban just stands there like a fool and does nothing!
This needs to be all over the media today as an appalling, disgusting display of violent hate language - people are rejecting them based on this already. And the insanity continues right under their noses.
Not stopping this criminally illegal behavior should disqualify these two violence-baiting unamericans.
Putting politics aside, I just don't see how anyone would want to be McCain's friend. Biden is obviously a lot more forgiving than I am. I'm still stuck on how he did absolutely nothing to save his shipmates in the USS Forrestal fire and watched the tragedy unfold on a TV monitor within the safehold of the ship. That is, AFTER he fled the scene to save his own life.
The man has consistently shown throughout his entire life that it's "John First."
If "Country First" were more than an empty slogan McCain would resign from seeking the presidency effective immediately and take that unqualified and corrupt Caribou Barbee with him.
My mother-in-law, who is a racist and would have a very hard time voting Dem, has doubts about Sarah and John. He's too old, she's not ready to lead. If Mcbush has lost her, he is totally screwed. She is a 25%er.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.c...
And the terrorist language in their audiences continues. What is it going to take for someone to stop this madness and intentional terror baiting? Someone at one of their rallies is going to get hurt and then the fur wil fly.
It's time to stop these abettors to violence in their tracks and issue a "cease and desist" order against their increasingly more violent rallies.
I say let them show their true colors. It's only going to bring them down further. I read the blow-by-blow and it was one man on the fringe, but racists like this man are helping to bring down McCain. At least the polls show that America is changing and the majority of us do not put up with this supremacist crap anymore.
BTW, John Oliver of the Daily Show was there interviewing attendees. Should make for a new and interesting segment.
Poor Joe Biden. He has to watch his friend of many years sink lower than a snake's ass. Joe has to witness firsthand a friend sell his soul to the very people who tried to drag him through the Rovian mud eight years ago. Its a shame that Biden had to wait all these years to see just how low a Republican can go. To see friendship means nothing to a Republican. Fortunately I found out at a younger age than Joe. Unfortunately I had to find out at all. I will NEVER trust another Republican because this is exactly how they act.
Since John McCain doesn't have the dignity or gravitas to stop the fires which he's been stoking, along with his criminal sidekick, the american people will take it into their own hands. Groups of concerned citizens are forming and running ads to bring McCain & Palin to accountability for what they are doing.
By the end of this week, I think the damage these hate rallies are doing to the electorate and the Independents they need will be so great, that the McCain campaign will just slide into total irrelevancy and disgrace.
http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do;js...
People from all states who find the McCain Palin hate-baiting deplorable are unifying all across the country now and forming advertisements rejecting McCain & Palin for what they are doing at their rallies.
Form your own group today or join one already in existence. It's up to us now to stop this insanity. I don't know where the hell law enforcement has been at these rallies but I wouldn't want to be one of them one someone gets hurt by one of these right wingnuts.
"Don't let McCain and Palin undo the decades spent fighting for civil rights and equality in our country."
Yeah, wait until you get into office and appoint the Supreme Court justices to do that for ya
You betcha...
I can't wait until the adults are in charge again...
Joe Biden knows who is REALLY connected to Bin Laden!
Both by their words & actions as well as their inaction during the yelling of illegal death threats at their rallies, McCain and Palin have now BECOME the very domestic terrorist they are attempting to paint Obama as. Isn't it amazing how we all become what we loathe when we attempt to project it onto someone else?
This is precisely what's occurring right now in the minds of americans. How can we feel safe when these radicals are drumming up hate at their own rallies? How can we give the national security edge to McCain any longer? By his actions and inactions, he's proven just the opposite.
Hell, he doesn't even have the respect of his own people at his rallies who boo him when he asks them to act decently, not to mention, to act within the federal laws of this country. If he can't control this small group, how the hell can this impotent old fool control the entire country in a time of national crisis?
He's showing us every day and in every way how totally impotent a leader he would be by his very actions and inaction.
How about that John McCain and ACORN hee! How bout it hee! Hee! Hee! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ9wy2MI1NI
I saw the HuffPo article about it with the photo. Good find on the video.
The attacks against ACORN are ridiculous. More stretches of the McCain campaign's imagination. Registration fraud unfortunately exists due to payouts to workers who have found a loophole to make more cash. Whether individual fraud within the organization exists still remains unproven however and ACORN in its entity has been cleared by the courts in multiple lawsuits in the past.
But, it's not vote fraud! Someone PLEASE tell me how Mickey Mouse can actually vote???!!!
Especially with No-Match Laws in place. Laws, by the way, that disenfranchise people like "Brad Smith" whose driver's license has his name listed as "Bradley Smith." And then you have the Michigan GOP trying to block votes from people who foreclosed on their homes. Registration fraud vs. Voter fraud. Gee. I wonder which one actually matters?
There has got to be a better way for this process!
McCain has sunk; just as fast as the DOW has sunk; just as it mirrored the disapproval rating of the outgoing, much antipated BUSH lagacy and his complicit Congress.
The loss of TRUST and CREDIBILITY of our government and the unregulated hawkish; predatory investors with no concerns for the consumers concerns CEMENTED the current sentiments of our MARKET's and Public CONFIDENCES in the current leadership (if you would even call it leadership).
The startling symptomatic of short-term GAINS and long-term LOSSES will be the legacy of the BIG ELEPHANTS and their CARROT SNIFFING democrats.
They have collectively failed the general public and exploited their treasury as a result diminished the collective sum of our nation's wealth, thus damaged OUR reputation and standing on WORLD views of USA.
What a TRADEGY...............
Rhetorics carries not a drop of confidence and the greedy pirates are exploiting the current market symptoms.
NOW WE ARE PAYING THE PAIN and GOVERNMENT are CRAMMING and are failing the TEST like any spoil brats during an academic semester's final exams.
Too much partying; too much excesses; too much spending; too much hangover; too little time for learning and studying; therefore struggling to pass the test; and desparate to copy others without any understanding the subject nor the substance of the testing materials.
What a complete JOKERS.
GOP has already failed.....they just haven't gotten their report cards.
F for FAILURES.
You might not know the extent of the hatred you are facing. It very ugly.
http://www.akfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?...
These guys are preparing to kill you.
and that is just the tip of the iceberg. I teach at a martial arts school, and the paranoid, wingnuts are always trying to convince me to stockpile weapons like they do. I am not vehemently anti-gun, but I am not pro-handgun either. I tend to find that it gives people a very dangerous and false sense of empowerment. Once they find out that my ideology and faith is COMPLETELY antithetical to theirs, there is confusion..."but you train us to kill!!" WRONG...Harming another human being is probably the 100th reason I train and teach. If they can remotely grasp that, I talk about expansion of awareness...not simply from a personal defense aspect, but one that includes an intellectual and spiritual method of understanding your environment. Unfortunately, most of the time, with the fringe, I usually waste my time.
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 00:08 — NoGWBpolicyleftinplace (not verified)
Danger danger, warning warning.......
You are not going to believe what happened to me on Saturday.
I was going to park in a strip mall in order to pick up my wife. A large black truck pulled in front of me to turn with a huge McCain/Palin yard sign attatched to it that said "real leadership, from real leaders." When I read that, I started cracking up laughing and shaking my head. I then proceeded to park my van and call grandma at home (who was watching the kids) to see how things where going.
After a five minute phone call, I got out of my van and was putting my cell away when I heard someone yell "hey you." I looked up and it was the dude in the black truck. He points to his giant sign and growls at me "you got a problem with my sign?" Immediately I stopped and thought, I'm not taking any crap from this right wing moron. Our exchange went like this:
NoGWB: Anyone who would even consider voting for that guy (McCain) after the last eight years, has to have a screw loose.
Right wing idiot turns beat red and goes nuts!
Right wing moron: Oh yeah, why you driving that g** d*** piece of foreign sh blahblahblah (I have a new toyota van).
NoGWB: Funny you should bring that up. I have bought twelve Fords since 1991. But since ALL 7 of my brothers and brother-in-laws lost their jobs, I decided to get the better investment this time. If just one of the hadn't become unemployed under McCain and the republicans, I would have still bought another Ford.
RWM: Oh yeah, (literally spitting mad) well I hope you loose your job too!
NoGWB: Well, if that idiot McCain gets elected I probably will, along with everybody else who is lucky enough to still have a job. In case you haven't noticed, jobs disappear under republicans! I then told him he either wasn't very observant, or he just wasn't very bright, because its as obvious as night and day. Then I told him I hoped he would loose his job too!
RWN: (Jumps out of truck) Well I'm retired pal. I don't work anymore.
NoGWB: Well when the stock market - thanks to republicans - goes down to 3000 you won't be. You'll be working for $3.00 an hour too eat poison from china bought at Wal Mart - which is all your republican buddies think your worth!
RWM: Yeah! You no good commie, pinko, socialist (some unintelligible bullshit), etc.........
NoGWB; In case you haven't noticed, the pinko's are on Wall Street getting their socialist hands all over the communist government run by your republican pinko socialist commie pal's. You are an idiot, and incredibly boring! (I then walked into the store as he swore some more).
When I got inside I noticed he was still behind my van. I thought he might slash the tires. It looked like he was taking my liscense plate number. After about 30 seconds I walked back outside to see what the idiot was doing. He took off finally.
I told my wife, "if some NRA nut shoots me from the field across the street, he will probably be driving a black truck with a giant McStupid sign on it."
The rerason I write this post, is to warn all GOOD people to beware of these mean, hate filled angry assholes, who are being incited by the Rove scumbags. Their entire world of lies is crumbling around them, and they don't have the intellience to understand why. They really are very sick. All I did was laugh at this assholes sign, and look at how he reacted. Beware.......
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That's Joe Biden, always a gentleman. Never one to kick an opponent when he or she is down. A vice president we could look up to for a change.
Beautiful job, Joe. The more that I see of him the more that I realize just how skilled he is at this game. Setting aside the politics I think that you must admit that he is one of the best at this aspect of political theatre.
(Don't think for a microsecond that he is blind to McCain's faults or that he is really surprised by anything.)
Ayers and ACORN both need to be discussed during this debate! The facts need to be brought out into the light! Will McCain chicken out and not say the accusations his campaign has been making about Obama. Will McCain himself have the nerve to slander in public and to Obama's face? If McCain does not say these accusations during the debate then McCain is a liar and a coward. Also, McCain must allow Obama to respond to these lies during the debate !
CNN is covering Palins' association with AIP. It is on right now.
Oh dear.
I hear rats falling in the ocean suddenly.
No way!
Over at ABC I may have ticked off an AIP member about Palin. Here was his response: "Facts about Ms. Palin. She governs a land region that stretches from Savanna Georgia to Santa Barbara California. You will never see your fantasy Alpha males wearing Dew Rags, doing one of their Survivor episodes here in January? She will kill a pack of wolves trying to eat her dog, because she cant wait for Disney Productions and PETA to teach her how wonderful they are. She has yet to tell you Metros-Sexuals that counting soldier deaths of 4000 while ignoring 1 million abortions a year is pure selective outrage. She along with most Alaskans do not have to fear MS 13, Crips, Arian Brotherhoods and Bloods like you Urbanites because we will not allow this type of behavior to dominate us. Talking points you say? Talk, don’t cut it up in Alaska, and sheep don’t like it here! Please visit the nearest REI, or Eddy Bauer store and pretend you have the balls to speak about a Woman from Alaska! Our woman can kick most men’s asses. And they are not afraid to be conservative."a
His syntax is just like Palin's. *cough*
Maybe we should let Alaska secede. We'd save millions in earmark spending at least! And then they can "drill, baby, drill" all they want until Putin rears his head and enters their airspace.
The rest of his spew is laughable especially about MS13. What a nutjob.
What's not to believe?
Look at the policies and what they have done, in the past eight years. It makes PERFECT sense, explaining what they are doing now. It's just, more of the same ole, same ole.
Attacking others is their FORTE.
They are, or work for the "ENTITLED". The "ELITES".
Everyone else is just low life, bottom of the barrel, scum that MUST be ELIMINATED. It's discussed repeatedly in their global domination plan. Isn't it?
Biden's a decent guy.
We could do one hell of a lot worse than have this guy as our vice-president.
Given the false and incendiary ads the Palin-McCain campaign is running, and given the outrageous false comments Palin made that the Alaska legislature's report found that she violated no law or engaged in no ethical violations, we can no longer fault them for being unable to dissuade angry rally attendees that Obama is not a Muslim, an Arab, or a Terrorist. They have no credibility with anyone.
And then again perhaps the real McCain has removed his cloak and Palpatine has surfaced as Darth Sidious.
Joe nailed McCain to the wall today in Ohio.
CNN has the clips.
mccain does what rover tells him to.
But Brutus says he was ambitious,
And Brutus is an honorable man.
I refuse to let myself believe John McCain has anything to do with any of that." ...
I don't know if that was a rhetorical statement or if it was serious, but - sorry, Joe, McCain has everything to do with it. A leader sets the tone and the standard by what is done, by what is allowed and by what is forbidden. McCain knows it's going on, his own Freudian slips and careless comments betray thinking that supports what's going on. His failure to silence the ugliness of Palin and his operatives persists, long after he has become aware of the situation. He owns it. He owns it completely. And...he is completely blameworthy.
The worst way to lead is to live a life guided only by an expedient of the moment, unbound by any obligation to exemplify a principled standard. The error is compounded by what McCain is doing....allowing, with full knowledge, surrogates to do the dirty work, things that violate timeless standards of ethics or morality or courtesy or whatever. These are methods are the tactics of manipulation for purposes of control. McCain's idea of leadership is to acquire the power of control. It is the way of the petty tyrant and the despot.
Yesterday, Obama showed all that it takes to nip this kind of thing in the bud: When people started booing McCain, Obama simply said, "Hey...We don't need any of that...what we need is to go out and vote" End of booing. The message: "Not in my house. Here's a better path".
The 2nd best way to lead is to set a standard by your own example, and to hold yourself to living that example with such integrity, that those who follow would find earning your disappointment or loss of respect a cause for shame. Adherance to the principles becomes the basis for worthiness of respect and trust.
The best way to lead, is to base your standards upon highest principles, to live those principles with impeccable integrity, and to invite others to join and learn to do the same. The best leaders teach all those they lead how to lead themselves. The best leaders are those who thus prepare others for power. Their work is the business of sharing power and giving power away.
Both candidates own the culture that they are creating. They own the consequences of what they are crafting.
John McCain seems to, on the one hand, not know what his campaign's plans are from day to day. After his reaction to "Arab" lady last week and if you have been watching the news lately, there was video of him asking "Who is Barack Obama?" and the crowd shouting "terrorist", he looks just a little confused, although he is smiling.
The rabid right-wing, I believe, really just hopes McCain wins the election then dies so Palin can take over. Perhaps his campaign has been taken over by that element and they feel they can win better with her and her message (which obviously, it's been backfiring) than they can with him. Look at how they treat the media. MOST people don't think the news media is liberal. Only the rabid right-wingers believe that fantasy.
John McCain never entered the building--or existed
"Joe Biden's personal affection for John McCain blinds him from the reality of the campaign that's being waged."
I disagree. I think it's brilliant. Talk about taking the high road. Let the MSM and YouTube (etc.) play the rallies-of-hatred, over and over and over, and let the public decide. He's not smearing anyone. Brilliant. Yet, after this piece, who look like the desperate cruds (they are), and which campaign has risen far far above it? Yet the McSmear/Palin hate-message is getting out, loud and clear, across the planet. I think most people are disgusted by it, too.
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Tue, 10/14/2008 - 14:46 — Terrible (not verified)
mccain does what rover tells him to.
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Lick his own crotch?
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- Senator, did you order the Code Red?
- Uh, I'll have someone from my staff get back to you.
- Governor, did you?
- Well, when you go to soccer games and talk to moms about health care, sure, those kids are wearing red jerseys, just like my kids did in hockey. So I'll back to ya.
Think about what Joe Biden is saying indirectly: McCain doesn't have control of his own campaign, and he doesn't have the integrity to put and end to all that vile nonsense. He's completely lost, and if he can't run a campaign, he sure as hell can't run the country.
The message is that McCain is to be pitied. As Barack Obama said so beautifully, the wheels have come off the Bullshit Express.
Watch when McCain blinks tomorrow night: he can't control it when he's lying.
For the love of God would Biden stop forgiving McCain and making excuses for him. The fact of the matter is that McCain is a low life cretin who condones such actions and statements
Wake up Joe! You're our dog but you really need to come down hard on John McCain for this low-handed crap. If you keep referring to how honorable you consider John McCain, then swing voters are going to assume that that is you validating McCain's character and placing blame on this "fringe" activity squarely on the lower level of his campaign planners and at this point, informed people should no longer be able to believe that.
The New McCain is not the McCain Joe Biden pictures in his head and he needs to understand that.
Wake up Joe! You're our dog but you really need to come down hard on John McCain for this low-handed crap. If you keep referring to how honorable you consider John McCain, then swing voters are going to assume that that is you validating McCain's character and placing blame on this "fringe" activity squarely on the lower level of his campaign planners and at this point, informed people should no longer be able to believe that.
The New McCain is not the McCain Joe Biden pictures in his head and he needs to understand that.
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Someone needs to inform Joe that Johnny isn't in charge of his McCampaign.
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I'm liking Joe Biden more and more as Obama's VP pick. He does the attack dog thing, and I'm sure he could be more aggressive if he wanted to be. But he and Obama are trying so hard to keep the campaign respectable and above board and it's paying off.
They hit back, and Obama's promised to strike the last blow. But they haven't taken the low hanging fruit and in doing so make McCain look like a bastard to more people every day. They make Palin look more like a vicious shrew in rut to more independents with every passing hour who might have agreed with some of her political or cultural stances.
I think once the parallels of the Keating S&L failure with the current bailout, and the traitorous palling around of the Palin's with anti-American haters become well discussed issues over the next couple weeks the GOP presidential campaign will be toast.
Of course he said that. That way it's on record that he defended a man he thought had some kind of decency, and he can be shocked--shocked, do you hear?--to have it proven to him that McCain would STOOP so LOW. It's perfect.
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