Axelrod on Healthcare Bill: 'We Will Get It Done'
(h/t David)
David Axelrod discusses the healthcare bill on This Week with George Stephanopoulos:
STEPHANOPOULOS: And, David, the public seems to have questions as well. We did a poll this week, ABC News/Washington Post poll, that showed that 53 percent of the public think their own health care will cost more if this passes, 55 percent think the health care system overall will cost more, and only 37 percent think their own quality of care will be better.
In the face of this kind of skepticism, is it wise to ram through legislation like this, such a huge piece of legislation on a party-line vote?
AXELROD: Well, I would say a few things, George. First of all, you say this is what people think, I think when people see what actually happens after these reforms are passed, those concerns are going to be allayed, and they're going to realize that if they have insurance, they're more secure in their relationship with their insurance company, their costs are going to go down.
If they don't have insurance, they can get it at a price they can afford. It's going to reduce our deficit. It's going to extend the life of Medicare. Medicare recipients are going to get a better deal on prescription drugs and better care. So the reality I think will trump polls numbers in the dead of winter as this debate is going on.
In terms of ramming it through, we've been talking about this, we've been debating it and considering it for eight months. The Republican Party has spent a month engaged in parliamentary maneuvers and dilatory tactics to try and prevent and vote.
Understand, the big question here isn't whether or not we're going to get a vote, whether this will pass or not, the big question is whether the Republican Party will allow a vote. A majority of senators support this reform, and the Republican Party wants to prevent it from coming up for a vote. I think the American people are entitled to a vote.
If you are a person with pre-existing conditions, if you're a small business person who can't afford health care, if you are a person who became seriously ill and was thrown off your insurance -- their insurance because of that, if you're going bankrupt because of out-of-pocket expenses, you need the United States Senate to act.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But most of the changes, even if the bill passes won't be instituted until after the next presidential election, so you're asking people to take an awful lot on faith.
AXELROD: George, that's not really true, almost all of these insurance protections, the things that will protect people in terms of out-of-pocket costs, the pre -- children...
(CROSSTALK)
STEPHANOPOULOS: (INAUDIBLE).
AXELROD: The day the president signs the bill, children with pre-existing conditions will now be -- an insurance company can't keep them from joining their parents' insurance policy. People with pre-existing conditions will have a catastrophic plan they can join.
And then, of course, when the thing goes fully into effect, everyone will be on insurance, insurance companies can't ban anyone with pre-existing conditions. But there are number of insurance protections that go into effect as soon as the president signs the bill. And not to mention, will begin reducing that gap in Medicare prescription coverage. So there...
STEPHANOPOULOS: The doughnut hole.
AXELROD: There are many, many benefits to this that go into effect right away. And most of them affect people who have insurance already.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Senator Ben Nelson provided the 60th vote yesterday -- said he would provide the 60th vote yesterday, but he also laid out a warning, you've got a tough conference ahead with the House, and here's what he had to say about that.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SEN. BEN NELSON (D), NEBRASKA: I reserve the right to vote against the next cloture vote if there are material changes to this agreement in the conference report. And I will vote against it if that is the case.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
STEPHANOPOULOS: So he still can hold this whole agreement hostage. Senator Joe Lieberman can still hold this whole agreement hostage. Yet you've got progressives in the House and your outside supporters like Richard Trumka, the head of the AFL-CIO, saying that if the bill doesn't move back in the direction of the House, they can't support it.
How do you thread that needle?
AXELROD: Well, look, this whole process has been like that, George. You know, the president said months and months ago that the best advice he got at the beginning of this process was that health reform would be declared dead at least five times before he signed the bill.
It's difficult. We're trying to do something difficult. As you know, seven presidents have tried this. Seven presidents have failed. We've been talking about it for a hundred years. So nobody expected this to be easy. We -- but I think that there is a determination in that Congress to get something done here.
Everybody understands that we can't sustain this system as it is. It's crushing families and businesses. People need protections against the excesses of their insurance companies. People who don't have insurance need to have insurance. And we need to reduce the overall cost of the system.
So I think that despite all of these problems, the will to get it done is there and we will get it done.
Get what done? Make the insurance companies happy?
No matter what is said, this is another fundamentally corrupt exercise in corporatist governance.
The Warmongering Bailout Nation does fake health care reform.
statusquObama, change you can only pretend in
Looks like "Obomba" couldn't be satisfied with a surge in a use of military force in Afghanistan. Now we've also turned out military prowess to Yemen where the U.S. military just killed scores of innocent civilians including 28 children:
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/arti...
It seems to me that the United States could afford to make it a priority that every American has quality, affordable healthcare from cradle to grave (including vision/dental/long term care) if we weren't spending so many tax dollars on the MIC and global hegemony.
All this militarism is NOT helping our image either here or abroad.
The Obama Administration has it's priorities screwed up.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
Quite shocking, though of course not surprising. Thank you for the link.
Just like the coming banking reform. Whatever will get the DLC / DSCC / DCCC their corporate donors, they will ram down the people's throats. and stephie was more than happy to point out the survey and not the real important facts. They sit there talking clintonista to clintonista. And as usual, stephie won't correct the lies.
Some stuff you can't make up!
"..Everybody understands that we can't sustain this system as it is. It's crushing families and businesses..."
This bill is just propping up insurance companies for another 5-10 years, until everything collapses.
DJ US Full Line Insurance Index
DJ US Insurance Brokers Index
etc, etc
Translation - "We really really really promise to fix it in reconciliation where we have a 51 vote rule. Yeah, we know we fucked you on the public option/Medicare 55 mandate dodge, but trust us. Just send us MORE money, and promise to vote us back in again...and we REALLY REALLY promise not to fuck you this time. We really really mean it."
My answer...fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
I don't believe him or Obama any more. After 43 years of voting Democratic, on this ONE ISSUE I really cared about, they have lost me forever.
there hasn't been 45 years when the issue of healthcare was a major plan other than 1992.
Would you buy a used car from that guy?
They can't govern, but the GOP does things like this very well. "A majority of senators support this reform, and the Republican Party wants to prevent it from coming up for a vote. I think the American people are entitled to a vote."
They opposed it in the beginning because it would have worked and that would have made them look bad. They have worked to strip everything out of it, so that now it's a bad bill their opposition will work for them in the future.
... and your child dies from the lack of treatment?
Can you sue the carrier for the death? Huh, Mr. Axelrod?
What about the high deductible, high co-pay, low cap policies you will be forcing people to buy? Just how do they get to go to the doctor without first meeting their $100,000 deductible? or $10,000 deductible? or $5,000 deductible?
You are forcing people to pay taxes to a private entity with no guarantee whatsoever that the private entity will even provide minimal services.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
take pride in not accepting insurance.
We must be involved from the beginning to the end. We must put our money were our mouth is. If the people we vote for need money from corporations to get elected thats who they are going to listen to. We have to support our candidate from the start. We have to vote in the primary. We have to make sure everyone we know votes on election day. One in office we have to write letters to remind them who elected them and who will removed them from office. We have to demonstrates for those who remember us and against those who have forgotten us. And if they vote against us we have to make sure they are never elected again.
Disregarding George S. because he's an amazingly BAD journalist but great right-wing squawker, Axelrod and Rahm have turned out to be classic Chicago-style behind the scene folks. The problem - they have given Obama EXTREMELY BAD advice on many occasions, this health care debate being one instance. They have also turned out to be publicly spineless.
Since it's clear that Ax and Rahm don't give a single hoot what the American people think about health care reform and because they only care how much money they put in their collective, personal pockets and the rest of us be damned, it will be quite a spectacle to see the upcoming election battle between the Neo-Nut hate machine and these clowns..
Time to go on an overseas vacation and watch this from afar... gonna get ugly and body parts WILL fly...
Rahm and Axelrod maybe giving Obama bad advice, but if Obama takes it that's his problem. Obama isn't a man-child like Bush; he knows how "the other half" lives. He's not that old, and I can't believe that he has forgotten how things were for him growing up.
Exactly right. It should be clear by now to everyone paying the least bit of attention which side Obama is on. Hint--it's not the people's side.
I'm still mad that I got suckered. I wish I never donated one red cent to Obama. Democrats and Republicans are the same: Both sides do not want health care reform.
NOBODY 2012
The Streets of Washington
A Barack Obama Production
Created by David Axelrod
Produced by Rahm Emanuel
Written by Big Insurance & Pharma Companies
Created by David Axelrod
Produced by Rahm Emanuel
Written by Wall Street Goldman Sachs
Starring . . Barrack Obama as . . himself
That's a good one too!!!
"I think when people see what actually happens after these reforms are passed, those concerns are going to be allayed, and they're going to realize that if they have insurance, they're more secure in their relationship with their insurance company, their costs are going to go down," Axelrod said on ABC's "This Week." "And if they don't have insurance, they can get it at a price they can afford. It's going to reduce our deficit."
If a "product" is not offered-produced by some Giant (to big to fail) Corporation-s it's not legitimate.
Axelrod: "People with pre-existing conditions will have a catastrophic plan they can join."
What a Piece of Shit you are. This is a Catastrophic Bill!!!
So let me get this straight, you are all so proud of the work done to get me, a born and raised hard ass working American from high school age until now in my 50s, the opportunity to enroll in a "catastrophic plan". OMG. Repeat, OMG. Axelrod can say this with a straight face.
Here's what being a middle class American has come to. If you’re hit by a bus or train, you'll have access to health care. But if you're crossing the street and hit by a Honda, no health care for you? Do I have that right?
America is in a Depression. Our jobs are evaporating, our homes are being taken away, our children go to bed hungry, disability, depression, suicide all on the rise, access to health care long ago became a national emergency, and this, and this worthless piece of crap bill is what you deem as the best that can be done for the people? Shame on you.
Please catch Taibbi interviewed by Bill Moyers. He is dead on. Your President did nothing to get you health care; the Democratic Party did nothing to get you health care. Its joke and we're the punch line. Look at the politicians point fingers and shout at each other while insurance companies get what they want. We're the dopes. We're all suckers for contributing one dollar to these thieves.
He (Axlerod) chides the superficiality of cable news (not just Fox, his much-chronicled sparring partner) and the Internet (even The Huffington Post, where a son works for Arianna Huffington, a friend of his), and he is caustic on pundits “seriously declaring ‘defining moments of the Obama presidency’ every week.”
“It’s why we pride ourselves on thinking more about Chicago than D.C.,” he says, eating breakfast around the corner from Daley Plaza. “Chicagoans don’t sit around talking about what was in the Federal Register.”
sit around thinking about how precious few people actually get anything positive out of this bill in the next few years, either.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
Let's remember the words of Mr. Obama in a trip down memory lane. Barack Obama’s “Time Has Come for Universal Health Care” Speech from January 25, 2007:
“Plans that tinker and halfway measures now belong to yesterday. The President’s [Bush's] latest proposal that does little to bring down cost or guarantee coverage falls into this category. There will be many others offered in the coming campaign, and I am working with experts to develop my own plan as we speak, but let’s make one thing clear right here, right now:
“In the 2008 campaign, affordable, universal health care for every single American must not be a question of whether, it must be a question of how. We have the ideas, we have the resources, and we must find the will to pass a plan by the end of the next president’s first term….For too long, this debate has been stunted by what I call the smallness of our politics – the idea that there isn’t much we can agree on or do about the major challenges facing our country. And when some try to propose something bold, the interests groups and the partisans treat it like a sporting event, with each side keeping score of who’s up and who’s down, using fear and divisiveness and other cheap tricks to win their argument, even if we lose our solution in the process…For years, the can’t-do crowd has scared the American people into believing that universal health care would mean socialized medicine and burdensome taxes – that we should just stay out of the way and tinker at the margins….”
The Entire Speech can be read @:
http://obamaspeeches.com/097-The-Time-Has-Com...
EMPTY SPEECH & EMPTY WORDS!!!! That’s Barack Obama for ya!
".. and so, instead of burdensome taxes, you'll just be required to give more money to the insurance companies .."
".. and instead of socialized medicine, we'll continue to socialize the risks the corporatocracy takes with taxpayers' money .."
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
its one thing to run for Prez but when you actually get the job, it really isnt much fun or even close to being easy. its really damn hard. who the hell would ever want that job. and its just a speech, with a bunch of words thrown together in a sing-song sorta way, and it doesnt have to be of substance. its what the listeners believe about the content of the speech that is important. he gave a lot of those last year during the election run and look it got him elected. now that he has the job speeches wont cut it. hes gotta show actions. actions mean something, words eventually dont.
AXELROD: The day the president signs the bill, children with pre-existing conditions will now be -- an insurance company can't keep them from joining their parents' insurance policy. People with pre-existing conditions will have a catastrophic plan they can join.
And then, of course, when the thing goes fully into effect, everyone will be on insurance, insurance companies can't ban anyone with pre-existing conditions.
Of course, by that time the coasts will be under water and Obama will have been impeached by a Republican House for not showing proof he drove a car with a valid birth certificate.
And double of course, I will not have voted or watched teevee either.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
this country is so fucked, read some of the comments on this topic here.
This bill will pass because the Democrats can not afford for it not to. That makes it imperative that we fight to make it the best bill possible. They are still making changes, and admit that the public outrage is affecting them. Let them know what you want. Write, call, let them know that you won't contribute any longer. Do not give up.
Yes. Let them doublecross us again.
Viva la status quo.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
"The individual is handicapped by coming face-to-face with a conspiracy so monstrous he cannot believe it exists."
Even J. Edgar Hoover admitted it.
Now, they don't even try to hide it anymore! They just do anything they want because they know the public isn't going to do jack squat to throw a wrench into the machine.
You think that explains why he cross dressed?
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
One of the definitions of treason is "betrayal of one's country". Obama and his team and the US Senate are most certainly guilty of this. With the health care catastrophe growing worse by the day (one million health care related bankruptcies last year), the Senate has destroyed all forms of meaningful reform while engorging itself on corporate money.
Another definition of treason is the "attempt to overthrow the sovereignty of the government". The president and senate have helped enable and been complicitous with big Pharma and insurance corporations to override the democratic process by allowing these same corporations to write senate bills (word for word) in absolute opposition to the needs of the American people. I would say that this is an attack on national sovereignty.
Let's call this what it is --- TREASON
if you keep going around unhingedly calling people you dont agree with 'traitors'. remember they know where you live so calm down before they come and get you. do you have your gun? got it loaded? sitting in the chair looking at the front door? just dare them to come and get you. im gonna take a wild guess you didnt vote for Ob.
The comment reads far more like a betrayed Obama supporter than a McCain/Palin supporter. I don't think the word "treason" applies, but that's more of a definitional problem than anything else.
Aside from the possible misuse of the word "treason," what factual assertions did gerryrempel make that you believe are false?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Our national sovereignty is being assaulted every day by corporate influences. Not the physical country but its constitution and political processes. this is no time for soft and tepid language. These bastards are destroying our country before our very eyes. It is TREASON
Concerning the idiot who thinks I voted for Palin. I had assumed it was understood that the Republicans are so far off the deep end that mentioning them is almost meaningless. After the election there was hope with Obama, but that off course is now gone.
I suppose the enemy in this instance could be corporate interests, but it seemss a bit of a stretch.
Not that I disagree; it's just a wording preference.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
by its very definition, is disloyalty to one's own country. A foreign enemy, therefore, cannot commit treason against us.
Of course not, but it is still necessary to have an enemy in order to render aid and comfort to the enemy.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
the no step forward, one step back strategy is the consensus here as the favored one?
Hasa Diga Eebowai
Yep. To ensure an invitation to the next "B" list Christmas Party.
Self interest...is the only interest. That is the new American Constitution.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
the next bubble . . of course we all know how well projections work.
http://www.bls.gov/oco/images/overview_chart_...
Guess who ultimately benefits the most.
Making everyone buy insurance is NOT the same as providing universal health care.
btw .. FireDogLake put part of this clip up on YouTube and titled it: "This Week - David Axelrod tries in vain to prop up his bosses health care capitulation."
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
Right, as in Insurance might pay a little, then good luck your on your own. If it gets to bad you can purchase a good Bankruptcy Attorney. Or even sell your home and move into a tent.
And as Howard Dean said -- and this is a devastating fact -- insurance companies' stocks reached a 52-year high on Friday after this so called reform bill got its 60th vote.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/20/scar...
Politics is for the present, but an equation is for eternity. Albert Einstein
Gee...I wonder who did all the buying?
Ohhh...that's right...no cash executive bonuses to financial institutions...they got stock options.
Plan goes into effect in 4 years.
Stock Options usually executable after...uuhhh...4 years.
Merry CHRISTMAS!
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
with everything else. They began a slow to moderate upside this year especially when CONgress began working on "Health Care Reform" but still haven't gotten back the inflated Bubble value they were enjoying before it all came crashing down.
Even now traders are screwing each other on the dips and upsings daily. Watch, Health Care exec's will unload their stock options like wildfire up and coming here at some point to park offshore in some tax free vault.
It's a sick game.
America INC.
Great Cash Cow for the Idle Rich.
S&L BailOut. NAFTA. Credit Default Swaps. Housing Bubble. TARP.
(.. not to mention the Military Industrial Complex ..)
.. and now this.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
Right on brother.
what?!?! how ridiculous is that? how will that help anyone currently looking for insurance or anyone who has insurance in the next 4 years? what a dumb clause.
It's called..."kicking the can down the road".
Congress only acts immediately on things that it gets immediate benefit on. Like the financial bailout.
Care to guess how much money financial institutions will be pumping into the next round of elections.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
its so clear to those who pay attention that a lot of this bill is to make sure that the insurance companies give MORE money to the Dems next election cycle and not the GOP. after all, the Dems clearly have the interests of the insurance companies at heart. they are providing them with millions of new customers and without any sacrifice, pretty much.
Just like NAFTA, part of the Clinton Strategy.
When will government of the people, by the politicians, for the corporations perish from this Earth?
Not soon enough!
Congress only acts immediately on things that it gets immediate benefit on. Like the financial bailout.
Care to guess how much money financial institutions will be pumping into the next round of elections.
YOUR tax dollars at work! LOL. Suck it, bitches!
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
December 20, 2009
OP-ED CONTRIBUTOR
Why the Senate Should Vote Yes on Health Care
By JOE BIDEN
Washington - "IF I were still a United States senator, I would not only vote yes on the current health care reform bill, I would do so with the sure knowledge that I was casting one of the most historic votes of my 36 years in the Senate. I would vote yes knowing that the bill represents the culmination of a struggle begun by Theodore Roosevelt nearly a century ago to make health care reform a reality. And while it does not contain every measure President Obama and I wanted, I would vote yes for this bill certain that it includes the fundamental, essential change that opponents of reform have resisted for generations..."
Entire Article can be read @:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/20/opinion/20b...
BIDEN is another SCOUNDREL!!!!
People forget about this sleaze Biden in conversing about the Dems. This Biden guy couldn't ever get more than TWO PERCENT of the VOTE in Democratic Party primaries. This Biden guy is sleaze from start to finish...
It's obvious the Obama administration from this Op-Ed to Victoria Reggie Kennedy's Op-Ed in the Washington Post today is trying to CONVINCE PEOPLE OF THIS AWFUL BILL AND TRYING TO COUNTER HOWARD DEAN AS WELL.
the portfolios in the insurers took a huge hit during the bush meltdown. one surefire way to recoup a lot of that money is to use the government to increase the cashflow with guarantees of high premiums and additional customers. the Mass example will be scaled up to the nation. the resulting damage will be so severe that the government will soon come to a screeching halt.
the budget deficit will force the US into insolvency. all domestic spending will be challenged. they are apparently working to continue grover norquist's strategy.
Some stuff you can't make up!
Typical Dem, cave in to special interests.
Clinton administration announced it would give $1 billion to the Big Three to develop a revolutionary "clean car." Vice-president Al Gore vowed that this new generation of cars would get 60 to 90 miles per gallon. Jack Smith and his counterparts at Ford and Chrysler solemnly nodded their heads. It would be a 10-year plan, an industry-government partnership, like putting the first man on the moon. Needless to say, it never happened.
We went ahead with Giant Pickups and SUV's and GM's Lifesaving Hummers..
Romney's Massachusetts Miracle is exactly it.
Romney signed the Massachusetts health reform law into law, left of his own free will and is still laughing all the way to the bank.
...so it's to the liking of the Insurance Company CEOs and stock holders, The Republic Party Members, Ben Nelson and Nebraska, but most importantly, we think it'll please
Senator Lieberer--King Joe."And in closing, Fuck the
working poorserf class!"me-oww!
Axelrod and his boss Obama are absolute fucking frauds. They had an opportunity to do something great and instead they whored themselves out to the monied special interests. What lying motherfuckers.
What a disgrace of a bill. People will be FORCED, by the Democratic Party, to buy the overpriced, underperforming health insurance that they thought they were voting to reform in 2008.
The Democratic Party is now, unashamedly, the errand boy of corporate america.
FDR, Truman and LBJ are turning in their graves.
The Democratic Party is now, unashamedly, the errand boy of corporate america.
Yeah but will Status Quo Media, aka the infamous MSM, who always played down the idea of a public option with their news models and cheap theater scripts, tell you that? Hell no.
I've been reading comments from supposedly progessives on this site and others. Do you people not remember the last 8 years? Have you not been following the repug obstuctionism? Do you realize that the wall st bailout that Obama and this congress got sucked into started under Bush and his repug enablers and was directly caused by the repug assholes in the senate(think Phil Grahm? Why not fight the real enemy out there..the repug liars and assholes? Would you rather have MCAsshole(senile old POS) as president? You do realize that Palin was part of the deal..right?
The bailout, this healthcare reform bill could have just as easily been created by a GOP COngress.
So, now...things could not have been worse.
I see no reason to suffer this facade, and I no longer want to play.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
Kate Randall over at the World Socialist Web Site has written a fine analysis of this awful healthcare bill and the Obama administration’s attacks on the Elderly and Disbaled, of which groups the Democratic Party supposedly “fights for.” As I have said before, I find the Obama administration led by Rahm Emanuel and David Axelrod and double-talker scoundrel Vice-President Biden and HHS Secy Kathleen Sebelius to be evil and sinister people. Evil comes in all different ways, shapes and forms. The evil exuded by the Democrats is less overt or obnoxious than that of the right wing or George W. Bush but it’s still as dangerous and sinister with its outcomes.
The Democratic Party’s disregard of the elderly and disabled must not go unnoticed or ignored, and showing just how inhumane this bill really is, not to mention the Democratic women of the Senate who have sold out the pro-choice and Feminist movement. Yes, this includes Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Patty Murray, Claire MacAskill, Barbara Mikulski, Maria Cantwell, etc. It’s obvious the Democratic Party want the liberal-progressive base to go away and not be heard from at all. This message could not be any clearer than it is tonight. Yes, the Democratic Party do not want liberals or progressives in the party and it is time everyone understand you will never get liberal/progressive policies out of these Democrats at all. Never!
By Kate Randall
White House escalates push for Senate health bill passage
Public option, Medicare buy-in dropped
19 December 2009
World Socialist Web Site
“…The Obama administration fired back at Dean and his liberal advocacy group Democracy for America. While side-stepping the public option issue, White House spokesman Robert Gibbs stated that the bill would trim costs, reduce the deficit and insure 30 million currently uninsured Americans. “I don’t think any rational person would say killing a bill makes a whole lot of sense at this point,” Gibbs said….Dean’s statements reflect the concern of sections of the Democratic Party over the implications of mounting popular opposition to the health care overhaul. While committed to the basic goal of reducing government spending, they looked to the “public option” as a means providing the measure with a “progressive” gloss.....The latest NBC News-Wall Street Journal poll shows support for the Democratic health care plan has dropped to a new low of 32 percent, with 47 percent calling it a “bad idea.”…The past week’s manoeuvrings on the part of the White House and Senate Democratic leaders to secure a deal have exposed just how far removed the official debate over health care is from the needs and concerns of the vast majority of Americans….With every revision made to court the vote of this or that right-wing Senator, the true nature of the legislation comes more clearly into focus….The Obama-sponsored legislation is motivated first and foremost by a drive to cut costs for the government and to boost the profits of the giant insurers and pharmaceuticals….”…Whatever version of the Senate bill is passed—assuming Obama and Reid can muster the 60 votes—it would leave an estimated 25 million people uninsured. It would mandate individuals and families to obtain coverage or pay a penalty, and impose a tax on higher-priced insurance premiums held by unionized and other workers…The Obama administration has demanded that any bill he signs must be “deficit neutral.” To this end, the 10-year $848 billion bill would cut more than $400 billion from Medicare, threatening real reductions in care for the elderly and disabled enrolled in the government-run program for the elderly and disabled. These reductions are, in fact, the overhaul’s main purpose….”
Read the entire article @:
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2009/dec2009/hea...
is the toilet being flushed and the Clowns, Eunuchs, and Spineless, dempocrats being sucked out of office.
I wonder if the Idiots across the aisle are going to contribute and vote for these pieces of self serving shit.
I will go to JAIL or I will die but I Will NOT participate in this Socialized Corporate Profit Racket, scum bags out to jack the rates even before it is finalized, Real Nazis.
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