This is certainly an effective way to get the American public on your side. Yes, paying off poor people to sign off on their rights is really a thoughtful and generous public relations gesture:
Alabama Attorney General Troy King said tonight that he has told representatives of BP Plc. that they should stop circulating settlement agreements among coastal Alabamians.
The agreements, King said, essentially require that people give up the right to sue in exchange for payment of up to $5,000.
King said BP's efforts were particularly strong in Bayou La Batre.
Close to 30 percent of Bayou La Batre residents (the so-called "Seafood Capital of America" and home to the fictional Bubba Gump shrimp in "Forrest Gump) live below the poverty line. They are people to whom $5000 is indeed a lot of money, and it's of course very kind of BP to offer them a token something for the long-term destruction of their livelihood and environment - especially after the battering they took from Hurricane Katrina. Who knew that BP was a company run by a veritable Mother Theresa?
The attorney general said he is prohibited from giving legal advice to private citizens, but added that "people need to proceed with caution and understand the ramifications before signing something like that.
"They should seek appropriate counsel to make sure their rights are protected," King said.
Ooops...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
In other words, they could have prevented this crisis for the low low price of only 100 Alabamans...
My first post, prior to editing, had that figure at 100,000. I need more gin...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
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"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
.. an Oil Rig?
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
No, no. You need at least another gallon for that responsibility.
..accident? Oh yeah, nothing yet and after being fined $2 billion, they appealed it down to $500 million. Isn't that what we've heard. So why do I think that BP, who is claiming the rig was run by someone else and its their fault for the accidental fire, is going to really pay for all the damage.
Money talks, and BS walks.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Money talks, and
BSBP walks.Fixed it.
It failed.
What exactly do you think the ROV was trying to activate a coupe of days ago anyway?
The oops is people repeating MSM misinformation and misdirection.
Any links would be helpful and appreciated.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
http://crooksandliars.com/comment/permalink/1...
We covered this on another thread.
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Corruption favors the wealthy.
The BOP was in place...but the acoustic sensor was not. That's the critical part and the part that the U.S. does not "require", unlike countries like the Netherlands.
So...don't spread misinformation.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
nor correctly name the piece of equipment. Ooops.
Bartender, make the next a double please...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
The ROV's showed that much last week, so AS or not it wasn't going to help.
Again, stop spreading misinformation.
And while you are busy attacking BP (the guys who contracted Transocean to drill the hole and run the rig after leasing it from them BTW) what about Halliburtons part in this? They were the company that screwed up the concrete cap job that caused this mess.
Are you planning on going after them as well or is this just a love fest for all things American/hate fest for all things foreign?
Because after wading through a weeks worth of the latter I am thinking that is all you got planned.
Ok...since you refuse to be intelligent...
Drilling companies have opposed mandates for so-called “acoustic switches,” which cost about $500,000 and are an added line of defense in the event of a blowout. Norway and Brazil, two major oil drilling countries, require the devices, but the United States does not
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2010/may2010/oil...
Now...begone oil company shill.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
And I appear to be better informed than you are.
The AS trips the BOP in the event of a blow out, in this case the BOP is destroyed, it does not function, it is jammed open.
The AS would have done nothing.
Now I do agree that these should be standard on ALL wellheads, but that would not have changed the outcome of this disaster. The BOP failed and no manner of trip switch would have changed that fact.
Now begone you repeater of MSM lie and misdirection, or at least take the time to learn something about the subject before you uncritically spout misleading garbage and repeat the lies that are told to you by your corporate media. Perhaps then you might be up to the debate.
you comments all posted in the last 20 hours say otherwise.
Prove it.
me-oww!
"Nice talking to you." that's a fact?
whatev.
me-oww!
But these might. Especially the first one where you walked in here spouting a link from the Social Network of Oil and Gas Professionals as your primary authority. Oops.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
None of them are picking sides, or didn't you bother to read the article and comments from pro's in the field?
I dare say they are far more knowledgeable than you about the situation.
Using the words of people who would know to refute those who don't doesn't make me a shill.
It makes me smart.
My favorite was the line:
"What happened? We don't know that just yet."
As well plenty of others that blamed the disaster on pretty much anything aside from Oil and Gas Professionals.
As one of many sources, it doesn't necessarily make make anyone smart or dumb.
As the only authoritative source? Well, that's pretty much sucker bait. And as far as the Oil and Gas Professionals being those who know? Well, there's an oil slick the size of Puerto Rico that shows they either didn't know so much or didn't care.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
But none of them came even close to such a definitive statement on exactly what went wrong. Such a statement would be highly premature as not only is the information incomplete, but the information is coming largely from BP and the other entities involved, each of whom have a great incentive to, um, lie.
How much did BP say was leaking?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
I'll agree with you about the MSM misdirection, but lets be clear...that misdirection is to direct blame AWAY from BP for not having the sensor in place.
Now the excuse simply becomes...BOPs fail...or to put it simply...shit happens.
Well, welcome to the free market. BP made the mess, they pay to clean it up. ALL OF IT. The shore, the environmental impact...alll of it. That's called..."cost of doing business". They made a cost/benefit calculation...and lost...so...time to pay up. Oh...they may not survive as a company if that happens....Oh welll....shit happens.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Transocean/Halliburton made the mess but you are correct in that BP will be made to pay for it.
Remaining true to form. "Not our fault". Gee, you got there earlier than expected.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
They didn't keep a close enough eye on Transocean or Halliburton.
Well, maybe BP shouldn't hire such incompetente motherfarkers then. So in my opinion, since I've lived on the Gulf Coast since I was a child, BP, Transocean, and Haliburton can all go to hell. I hope it spells their end.
It's a dangerous practice destined to pollute the hell out of everything for hundreds of miles.
Good for you Moss, but you should stop shilling for BP. Every damn thing you've said is "BP good" or "not BP fault" like some BPbot that was activated to shift blame from that group. It's not gonna' work, so quit trying.
They are an oil company and there are no good oil companies.
I am pointing out that you are attacking the people who contracted to drill one of their finds while handing a free pass to the contractors who did the deed.
If this keeps up without the required outcry about Transocean and Halliburton tossed in to the mix then you can bet your posteriors that these two companies will walk away from this with a tip of the ol' hat from Congress.
I don't know about you, but most of us will get fired and our Boss/Owner will be sued. Nobody comes to our door afterwards, they sue our employer. Of course negligence does play a factor, and others will be drawn in, but the employer bears the blame when it's all over.
Are you working for BP? If so, how much is BP paying you for this? If not, what dog do you have in this fight, other than being a Brit? Has BP fired Transocean or Haliburton yet? Didn't think so.
.. in any capacity.
My dog in this is that I have been watching for the last week BP get ALL of the blame while the two who were on the rig and working it when it exploded (Transocean and Halliburton) are being pushed into the background.
That the 2 main culprits are walking away untouched in the public eye is my dog.
Also the lack of informed discussion is killing me.
All I see is repeated outraged created for you by the US MSM, I thought you guys were smarter than that.
If you had been a member of C+L for more than a day you would realise that we pinned the blame on Haliburton and Dick Cheney 3-4 days ago.
You have come on this site to try an mitigate BPs role in this, which just happened to be at the same time BP was doing the same thing. That is more than a coincidence I believe. I have seen the same tactic used by numerous Companies and Political groups on Crooks and Liars many times. If you say BP doesn't employ you, fine by me. It still doesn't change the fact that BP has it's name all over this.
Because I have been hanging around here for a long time and watching this site specifically to see where this was going.
Perhaps you can enlighten me as to the ratio of Halliburton hate articles to BP blame articles over the period of this disaster?
And perhaps where it was ever mentioned (besides from myself) the Transocean was running the rig at the time?
The timing is in no way suspicious, the articles are being posted NOW and the debate is occurring NOW, perhaps I should have waited until next year?
No, but what about last year? You could have signed up then, since you've been a lurker as you claim. By not doing so you will have a hard time convincing anybody here that BP isn't paying you.
I'm also not going to be your search engine. If you want to know what's been discussed on C+L and Daily KOS and DU and Huffington Post, look it up. There's plenty of blame to go around. Then again, if you've been lurking, you would already know what we've discussed, at least on C+L.
But than you'd be one of the first to demand that I back up my claims with links, am I right?
As for signing up, I have other lefty sites I hang out on that I find more conducive to rational discussion these days.
Sites where the charge of troll and shill aren't used quite so often when someone presents facts that contradict the conventional wisdom that is swilling around.
I signed up specifically to counter the 9/11 type hysteria and blame gaming that is swelling in the ranks here. No other reason.
To provide the information that will at least let some of them think for themselves instead of following the herd like so many are doing.
As for convincing anyone here, I am well aware that the people here are set in their ways about their exceptionalism no matter how undeserved. Convincing people is not in the cards, it never was.
Providing perspective in the dark room was always the goal.
If some of the fine people of this site don't wish to remove their blinders and start looking at what's around them then so be it, ignorance can indeed be bliss for some.
to understand your point though?
(my background in post below)
I have stated it endlessly here already as people tried to spin and twist and dismiss it:
The MSM wants the focus off of Halliburton and Transocean. They are pushing BP all day all the time.
The articles and comments here at C&L have been tracking this trend almost in sync.
I find this disturbing, after having watch the US (not these sites though) do this for 9/11 and Iraq it is disconcerting to watch this phenomenon happening again right here for this.
Usually C&L does NOT track the MSM misdirections this closely and the reason for that is because there is always someone who points this out.
This situation is not following that norm, it is instead repeating MSM "common knowledge" right here amongst people who should know better (and have in the past proven that they did know better).
Since no one else is speaking up I am doing so.
That is my point.
If on the other hand herd mentality is going to be the preferred norm here now then adieu, it is with a sad heart that I will leave the US to it's follies without comment.
I don't give a damn about links because I can google just as easy as anyone. I do care about facts though. I have followed this since it began and no one will even say how much oil is in the reservoir. BP says it's not releasing that info. Why? BP lied about the amout being released. Why? BP only had 47 vessels on scene Wed. of last week. Why? You see why BP is catching hell? Why would I give a damn about BP? Why? I don't.
Moss, if you had been lurking here, like you say, you would know that the majority of people on Crooks and Liars are the best informed you'll find. That's why I personally don't believe you've read shit these people have said over the last few days/weeks/months. One person said BOP when he should have said AS, and he was corrected soon after. Big farking deal.
Because you only see what you think is exceptionalism, some just see as common sense. Many companies were involved, with ONLY one at the top(BP). Sorry but that's something they(BP), nor you, will change.
epic fail. You blew your argument when you made the first ad hominem attack. Because we don't agree with you, we are deficient in intelligence and perspective? Amateur.
Who's the principal? BP.
Already discussed two threads down in Chris Wallace Rolls Out Timeline Which Implies the Administration Didn't Respond to the Oil Spill Immediately
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
BP pays, and then can sue their agents for possible recovery of all or part of the clean-up and other expenses. BTW, people tell you you're smart. If you have to tell other people you're smart, you're not.
there was no need to install a safeguard (AS) because the safeguard wouldn't have helped.
For **** sake.
That was a logical fallacy and a misstatement of my post.
I said the AS SHOULD be on all wellheads, but in this case it would have made no difference anyway.
The BOP has failed outright.
Nice try though.
The BOP has failed outright.
So...we now have the BP exuse parade...BOPs fail, shit happens, we could not have foreseen, we dont' make the BOP...not our fault.
The same tired old corporate story.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
So...when does BP announce that they're raising petroleum prices due to this impact on supply?
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
A better question would be "Wonder who is going to start raising prices first".
I'd be interested in hearing who that is over there when it happens.
Bet it's going to be Shell, they always jump on the band wagon right off.
And I'm a retired Chem.E. and not afraid of chemicals or petroleum or nuclear even.
Are you worried that "people on this internet board" aren't "watching" Halliburton and Transocean "enough"? Really? Even when they say they are quite happy to have them share the blame. And what does the existence of a switch for a BoP have to do with that?
And sure people are watching. Considering Transocean's stock is also down about 12% this week.
I'm just trying to grasp your point.
Hallburton and Transocean have disappeared from the discussion completely.
It is now all BP all the time.
And it would appear that they really aren't all that interested in having Halliburton share the blame as you say, the entire thrust of the comments have been to reinforce BP as the culprit and to shout down anyone who says otherwise.
As for stock prices, the whole industry is down from this. Nothing surprising there.
Maybe they shouldn't put the oil rigs in their commercials...with the huge BP signs on them.
Oh...I'm sorry...that's the advertising agency...BP has no control over that.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Since I actually own a few shares of an offshore drilling stock, I checked Transocean relative to peer group as well as drop of indexes. DJ US Enery index is down ~3% this week, Transoceans drop is 4x that. Other offshore drillers/service have dropped also an average of 3%.
(No, I don't own any Transocean, or BP, or Halliburton btw.).
And there are multiple comments both before you entered the discussion and after about Halliburton. You want to drag Transocean in, and if so, could you enlighten us on the lease terms with regard to safety of that specific contract and how it assigns safety responsibility?
You also tried to drag Shell into the argument on price raises. I haven't checked to see if they share a downstream refinery with BP, and honestly my contacts are with Exxon-Mobile and I'm not calling them to ask about Shell/BP refineries. =P This is why.
Heh, I was in process control, of course I'm checking the math on a stock price drop.
The fact that BP hasn't canceled the contract with Haliburton or Transocean makes any point he's trying to make fall flat IMO.
Xenophobia is even worse. The poor Brits.
Any links would be helpful and appreciated.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Didn't you just reference another thread where you posted a link. I think it's obvious BP isn't alone in this, and by your comment you think we have any love for home grown Haliburton? Are you nuts?
They should all fry for this.
Same information, no need to keep reposting it all over the place and repeating myself.
And no, I am not nuts.
I am instead watching everyone go all freaky on the one company that didn't actually have a direct hand in the accident while nary a word is spent talking about those who were physically running the rig or the work that they had performed that caused the accident.
And a chart. There were also some links by Portacello immediately above. These links don't support the arguments you're making, or if they do, the support is buried.
If you have anything more on point, I'm sure we'd love to check it out.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
And it is a starting pint for you to look around and investigate for yourself.
I am not going to provide an article here on all the points, what I have found I have found easily.
Just start using what I am talking about, do some light digging and it is all there to see.
Not to cap on you in particular but if everyone did at least some preliminary research before coming to sites like this and spewing forth misinformed opinion the conversations would elevate quite a bit.
Methinks you've had a few too many pints, mate...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
. . . it's become pretty clear that you really don't have very much. One article by Oil and Gas Professionals which specifically states they don't know what happened - yet you claim that you somehow do.
You hide behind accusations of laziness because your sources simply don't say what you say they do. This is not a result of my, or anyone else's, ineptitude with the intertubes, it is a direct result of your not being able to back up what you say.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
There is in no way "a love fest for all things American/hate fest for all things foreign" going on here as you put it. But then you only just got here, and all you've done is bitch, [Deleted-Sitemonitor].
Talk about spreading misinformation.
me-oww!
of B.P., wait that's not right, he was subcontracted out by a blogging company through a subsidiary of B.P. on a part time basis as an independant contractor to grace us at C&L with his vast knowledge of deep sea ocean rigs, and to inform us it wasn't BP's fault.
Not to worry, every liberal/progressive/democratic blog has a "moss" today.
Funny how someone who pops up pointing out the glaringly obvious becomes a paid shill if it contradicts your uninformed view of things.
How very Republican of you.
of the republican party. You pegged me.
Unfortunately, we pegged you too.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDPjYZxi0n8
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Those cheap bastards! They should have offered chickens to those poor people. Then they could pay for healthcare.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
pre battered and oiled for frying straight from the container.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
to the effects of oil on their feathers?
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
NO. Palin, Beck, Limbaugh and the rest are NOT immune from it's effects.
$4.95.
from the Exxon Valdez lawsuit yet?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
No but I thought I saw a fluff news piece on how well the area has begun to appear to be sort of clean.
on Oprah with a book on the wonders of alcohol abuse treatment.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
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outfits in coastal Alabama, Mississippi, and Louisiana so they can recoup immediately from those who accept the settlememnt offers.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
BP= Before Payday
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
It has come to out attention from very reliable sources that, while your ship has not come in, and in fact cannot even go out
due to the oil spill, you have recently had a financial benefit which Codicil C of our loan agreement indicates is 100% + interest due to us immediately.
Yours,
Before Payday Loans
P.S. Enjoy our new TV spot with Montel Williams. Watch for his Bus handing out free drugs.
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-GApOqzgWM
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
...that BP has gotten hold of the Goldman Sachs training manual..
The Attorney General is perfectly entitled to expose an obvious rip-off; some might even call it his job. Does he have an opinion on the Nigerian Royalty e-mail?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
It would seem to me that a cease and desist order should be forthcoming.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
.. maybe a band of angry citizens with torches, pitchforks and large sticks would be more effective ..
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zw5pmDgWMaU&fe...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
I'm sure all those people below the poverty line can afford counsel.
. . . gets to flood our borders with it's representatives so easily and with so little complaint? Where's that virtual wall?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
one of our Conressistas was talking about?
"I mean Romney is the most conservative on illegal immigration and I don't think Ronald Reagan could get elected in California today."
Ann "Clipped" Coulter
The cost of lower catches and contamination will indubitably be more than they're receiving...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
cease and desist from any activities making "settlements" with anyone in this country until this spill has been completely investigated. Obviously this could take years.
In the meantime the federal government should help all the people being adversely affected and it should be the federal government that sues BP into bankruptcy (which is where they will be once this gusher is plugged and the mess is "cleaned up" (they say only 20% at best will ever be cleaned up):
http://pesn.com/2010/05/02/9501643_Mother_of_...
BP is a criminal enterprise and no Americans should be allowed to make any "deals" with them.
They've already screwed us badly enough.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
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Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
at $75M total for the whole disaster!!
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Well its nice to know its over now and they've tallied up all the damage from cleanup and what not...
the amount of damages they're on the hook for.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
. . . relieve telcoms of civil liability, why not the converse for polluters?
Corruption favors the wealthy.
BP is too big to fail, I think,
. . . just what an epic fail this is :(
Now the slick is the size of Puerto Rico.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
....Losses......Socialized.....
Cue the Kabuki....
It's funny because it's coming true.
That's about the only way he can say that now. WTF? Was that part of the lease agreement? Cheney you evil bastard. I sense your hand in this.
Or was the cap courtesy of Congress? Explanations are due.
...it both is and is not entirely clear why BP is doing this. Yes, it's blatantly obvious that they're simply trying to buy off anyone they possibly can as cheaply as they possibly can. However, you don't need to be a rocket scientist to figure out that they have far more money and far better legal counsel than your average man-on-the-street from Alabama. They could probably afford to drag a court case out for years like Exxon did with the intent that at least some plaintiffs will become discouraged and drop the case. I'm not saying that it's pointless for the people of the Gulf Coast to sue BP for the damage to their livelihood -- but the fact nevertheless remains that the people of Prince William Sound in Alaska essentially got screwed twice, once by Exxon and again by the courts, simply because Exxon had far more money and political clout than they had.
Never trust anyone who insists that patriotism requires you to blindfold yourself with the flag.
in the U.S. if they won't pay. If the Supreme Court intervenes, tell them to pound oil-drenched sand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qu2uJWSZkck
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Raw footage, nuclear blast stops gas fountain
Democracy is too important to be entrusted to politicians.
Rise Up!
Protest!
Dude what an awesome idea! We couldn't possibly make it worse by setting off a nuke!
Should work as well as blowing up the whale carcass on an Oregon beach.
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"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
That's an oldie but goodie, fastfeat.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vmnq5dBF7Y
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
..this accident was supposedly caused by a north korean death squad in a mini-sub released from a north korean tanker because the rig was built by Hyundai Heavy and using a nuclear bomb would wreck Obama's credibility at an upcoming nuclear disarmament conference.
Here's one link: http://lucianne.com/thread/?artnum=538023
and it mentions rush's stupid theory that it was eco-terrorists.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
I was the first to break the North Korean sub rumor yesterday.
Thank you.
..props, then!
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
Uh-oh...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Never again will America be hit by a failure of her imagination...
or Al Quaeda...
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
Curtilingus, when I read MountainMan's comment that's exactly what I thought of, the whale explosion.
Say what you mean. Mean what you say. But don't say it mean.
Thanks pop! Nice to know someone else is on my wavelength.
; )
But isn't the oil leaking from a pipe, not directly from the well? Wouldn't sound like it would work, but I'm clearly no expert.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
They really want to get rid of New Orleans, don't they?
It's all them damn gay effeminate vampires...
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
Just two thoughts: Secrecy and no limits. Good job. Wrestle him to the ground.
or just wait and ride out the storm and hope that this'll turn out to be another valdez ending exxon/mobil should have had to pay for their mess but money talks and the little people don't have any.
And still, not a peep from the Teabagger crowd. The MSM and the Blogs should be on fire asking "Where's the Teabaggers". No rallies to show their hatred over this. Maybe they're not all that upset then.
... processed by Glenn Beck, and then we'll see images of Obama with oil dripping from his hands, or oil-based 'blackface' over the 'Joker' Obama.
If we're gonna be subjected to their daily touring schedule, why the fuck the silence now? Their leaders must be holed up in a Holiday Inn Express in Wasilla trying to formulate an action plan.
"Parachutes are allowed in checked or carry-on baggage, but may not be worn in flight."
---Southwest Airlines
They'd be allover it if BP were owned by black folk. Maybe the teabaggers did it?
Government + the Federal Reserve = organized crime
It Wasn't Their Fault?
I'm thinking they KNOW how bad this is going to be and they want to get off as cheap as they can right now.
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves. ~ Abraham Lincoln
of culpabitlity.
reduce the number of class action members. You can taste the lawyers behind this move.
Regardless how many poor Alabamans take BP up on their despicable and cynical buy-off, there'll be plenty of lawsuits. I hope it puts BP under.
@ 11:02 trying to do a little BP damage control??
"Moss" is from the UK and has been a member for, oh....let me see..., 18 hours and 52 minutes....
Maybe he should try his hand over at Huffington for a while.
"The US has an army of 90,000 soldiers in Afghanistan and is spending $100bn a year, but has still been unable to defeat 20,000-25,000 Taliban who receive no pay at all." - Patrick Cockburn
got some seriously disturbing photos on their header.
I am pointing out that you are leaving 2 of the 3 culpable parties out of the conversation.
AND you are posting misinformation about the accident, again it is MSM disseminated noise you are posting.
Make sure Transocean and Halliburton get their shares of the blame or they will walk, get it?
Funny how you miss the point in your blame fest, you are so dead set on blindly throwing around blame that you are going to accuse me (or anyone else for that matter) who contradicts your lack of info of being a paid shill.
Is this kind of uncritical behaviour an American thing?
But BP is the Prime Contractor, and ultimately responsible for those they hire. BP gets sued, and in turn goes after the ones that let them down
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Moss , I do believe you are right just from my own observation , the media doesn't mention Transocean and certainly not Cheney's Halliburton , nor do they mention who is likely to actually profit from this disaster , pointing that out isn't giving BP a free pass .My humble opinion .
To have an international troll.
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They even said honor with a "u".
Corruption favors the wealthy.
30k a year. Well, for the next five to ten years I won't be doing much fishing, not here anyway. Then go out another ten where you can slowly diminish the amount of payment due to the small amount of fishing I'm able to resume. Then, there's the damages of having lost a home (can't make any mortgage payments) etc...
Yes, I can see where 5k would just about cover it. Whoops, then there's the medical expenses because all my kids are sick (me too), multiply that out.
Time to get real BP (and just so Moss doesn't get upset) and Haliburton - your going to be paying BIG time. That is until the Supreme Court decides your only liable for 1%.
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