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President Obama, I hope you'll go see this for yourself - and drag the inhumane Blue Dogs along with you:

AMY GOODMAN: As debate continues in Washington over healthcare reform, thousands of Americans in neighboring Virginia are preparing to line up this weekend to receive free healthcare provided by a group called Remote Area Medical.

The charity was originally set up to provide doctors and medicine to isolated communities in the developing world, places like the Amazon jungle, where medical treatment is hard to come by. But the group quickly found itself having to set up in communities across the United States, where medical care is a right millions of Americans cannot afford.

Founded in 1985, Remote Area Medical is a non-profit, volunteer relief corps that provides healthcare free, dental care, eye care, veterinary services, and technical and educational assistance. It’s based in Knoxville, Tennessee, but the group frequently travels to set up relief centers, what’s called “expeditions,” across the country. This weekend they’ll be once again back in Wise County, Virginia.

Stan Brock is the founder of Remote Area Medical, joining us on the phone from Knoxville, Tennessee.

Stan, welcome to Democracy Now! Now, you are the Stan Brock of Mutual of Omaha’s Wild Kingdom, that show that was on Sunday nights for I don’t know how many years?

STAN BROCK: Yes, Sunday evenings, 7:00 p.m., as I recall, on NBC.

AMY GOODMAN: And what brought you from that, and what were you doing there, to founding Remote Area Medical?

STAN BROCK: Well, Remote Area Medical history goes back to many years when I lived in the Upper Amazon, and this is before Wild Kingdom. And I was living with a tribe of Native Americans called the Wapishana Indians, and we were—well, it was a very remote area on the northern border of Brazil in what used to be British Guiana. I had a nasty accident there with a wild horse. And while I was being pulled out from underneath the horse, one of the Wapishana said, “Well, the nearest doctor is twenty-six days on foot from here.”

It was about that time that I got the idea of bringing those doctors just a little bit closer. And that’s what we did many, many years later when I formed Remote Area Medical, but subsequently found that there were a lot of people like those Wapishanas here in the United States that didn’t have access to healthcare. And so, 64 percent of everything we do is now right here in America.

AMY GOODMAN: Talk about what, for example, you’re about to do this weekend, this expedition that you’ve got in Wise, Virginia. In fact, you’re about to start sending off supplies just after we speak.

STAN BROCK: Yeah. Well, it will be the 575th Remote Area Medical expedition. The 574th ended just last Sunday. And we see many, many hundreds and often thousands of people at these operations. In fact, last year at Wise, Virginia, we did 5,586 patient encounters, with 1,584 volunteers in just two-and-a-half days. And to give you some idea of the volume of medical work that goes on in one of these RAM expeditions, we pulled 3,896 bad teeth there last year, but we did save 1,888 teeth by filling them, so that was an improvement over the year before. But—

AMY GOODMAN: How important is dental for any health plan?

STAN BROCK: Well, that’s a very good question, because even though when you look at the figures at the end of the year, and we see more patients in general medical procedures and consultations, diabetes and heart disease and so on, the dental and vision care are two items that Americans just do not have access to when it comes to affordability in this country. And so, any plan that’s going to provide any type of universal healthcare or partial universal healthcare in this country must address the issue of dental treatment and vision treatment and eyeglasses for adults, because those are the two overriding factors that are bringing people to our clinics: intense pain, so they can’t function, or the inability to be able to read or drive a motorcar or operate machinery, for which they perhaps just simply need a pair of glasses.

AMY GOODMAN: Talking about driving cars, what about doctors crossing borders from state to state? How does that work?

STAN BROCK: The greatest impediment to what we do, Amy, at Remote Area Medical is the fact that for some extraordinary reason in this country, a doctor or dentist or nurse or veterinarian licensed in one state, taking essentially the same exams and having the same qualifications, is not allowed to cross state lines to provide free care, except here in the state of Tennessee, where we had the law changed in 1995. And most of the practitioners that work at our clinics here in Tennessee are from other parts of the United States.

There is a huge reservoir of thousands and thousands of willing medical people willing to cross the country at their expense to provide free care for the underserved. And a stroke of the pen allowing doctors to cross state lines by the US government would take care of that, and it would bring access to many, many, many hundreds of thousands of additional people in this country, as long as those doctors are also protected against frivolous lawsuits. Those are the two items that can make a big difference here: doctors crossing state lines, protect them against frivolous lawsuits.

AMY GOODMAN: Well, you’ve certainly had an effect. Last week on Democracy Now!, we aired an extended interview with the former healthcare executive turned whistleblower Wendell Potter. For years, he served as head of corporate communications. He was the chief spokesperson for CIGNA, one of the nation’s largest health insurance companies. I asked him what motivated him to turn from being an industry mouthpiece to speaking out against the health insurance companies he used to work for.

WENDELL POTTER: I was very isolated, along with most insurance company executives who deal with numbers all the time—profit margins and medical loss ratios and earnings per share and how many millions of members you have, or things like that. It’s just—they’re just numbers. And I didn’t really associate that with real people as much as I should and as much as most insurance company executives should, until I went to visit my relatives in Tennessee.

And while I was there, I happened to learn about a healthcare expedition that was being held at a nearby town across the state line in Virginia. And I was intrigued, borrowed my dad’s car and drove up to Wise County to see what was going on there. And this expedition was being held at the Wise County fairgrounds, and it was being put on by this group called Remote Area Medical that got its start several years ago taking volunteer doctors from this country to remote villages in South America, where people really don’t have any access to medical care. The founder realized pretty soon, though, that the need in this country is very, very great, and he started holding similar expeditions in rural communities throughout the country. And this one was nearby. I decided to check it out.

I didn’t have any idea what to expect, but when I walked through the fairground gates, it was just absolutely overwhelming. What I saw were people who were lined up. It was raining that day. They were lined up in the rain by the hundreds, waiting to get care that was being donated by doctors and nurses and dentists and other caregivers, and they were being treated in animal stalls. Volunteers had come to disinfect the animal stalls. They also had set up tents. It looked like a MASH unit. It looked like this could have been something that was happening in a war-torn country, and war refugees were there to get their care. It was just unbelievable, and it just drove it home to me, maybe for the first time, that we were talking about real human beings and not just numbers.

AMY GOODMAN: Wendell Potter, the former chief spokesperson for CIGNA for years. Stan Brock, your response? He was there where you’re going this weekend, Wise, Virginia, at one of your expeditions.

STAN BROCK: Yeah. As a matter of fact, I’ve heard from Wendell. He’s called me several times, and he says he’s coming up there this weekend to witness this again. What I would like to suggest is that somebody from the administration, perhaps even President Obama himself—what an opportunity to come to one place where there will be—I’m going to give out 1,500 numbers every morning starting Friday and Saturday of this weekend. You’re going to have thousands of patients all gathered in one place. You’re going to have over 1,500 volunteers, doctors and support workers all in one place. What an opportunity to ask these people about their lives and what they need and their aspirations. But, unfortunately, so far, nobody seems to be taking notice of this. And we’ve done 574 of these opportunities.

AMY GOODMAN: People come to Virginia as far as Florida and Tennessee to be treated?

STAN BROCK: Oh, oh, yes, yes. They’re coming from hundreds of miles around. And, in fact, we frequently get people that come all the way from Florida. We’ve had people come all the way from places like Wisconsin, because it’s cheaper to get on Greyhound or even buy an airline ticket and come down and get what might have been $4,000 or $5,000 worth of care taken care of free of charge.

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hope dem now goes down and covers this..

Pete2069's picture

WHY DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE AMERICAN CITIZENS WHICH WILL PAY AND BE EFFECTED BY THIS BILL ARE THE ONLY ONES NOT IN THE MEETING AND HAVE A COPY OF THE DETAILS..

Obama lied about his open and transparent government actions and policies....

The only change I have seen from Obama or his Administration is the names of the people in the White house..

By the time that these republicans and their republican blue dogs & Centralist called under the name of democrats will have a bill that is a real health care insurance for Americans.

By the time they cut over $150 million from Medicare which will put the screws to the mostly Senior (which is getting to be one of the government favor targets) which will tell the doctors what test , visits and other procedures they can prescribe to patients and combine persons not having jobs , controlling the prescriptions doctors can give patient that this will be anything close to a health care program..

This is getting to be just like the war in Iraq , Illegal Spying, Torture , taking controls off the banks (which aided the economical disaster) , feeding banks our 4.5 plus trillion dollars to cover their criminal actions , their bonuses , salaries and other pleasures , the no-bid contracts which gave billions of dollars to the war contractors which not only did not finish so of their contracts , killed soldiers with corrupted method of during these contracts , over payment to these contractors for contracts and the hurry up bailout and all this has proven to be mistakes and that is the reason for the fear card and the hurry up and do it with no oversight and hide the details from the citizens which are flipping the bills..

These insurance policies and money is not paid by the employers , the elected officials or the Global Health Industry ,,,,, it comes from the WORKING citizens and RETIREES of American and a free wealth of dollars to the Health Empire which are setting the policies that Americans are going to be FORCED to PAY.

When the idea of health plan first started it was a good idea to have. But since then it has become a republican / health Empire program to be force onto the American citizens with not way out..

you had better be sure that when the health empire , republicans and the republican democrats ( blue dogs -- Centralist -- Feinstein -- Kerry -- and others get thru with it , the bill will be a larger and better money maker for the Global Health Empire...Which has been putting money into their senators and House members which are creating this bill for them..

Americans which are now saying this is a good bill then explain the details of what the policies will charge Americans , what coverage they will have and what will be the restrictions and services will be denied to them..

No one know and everything you hear is hear say...


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littlepitcher's picture

The overwhelming majority of medical expense is incurred during the last 20 days of life. Medicare cuts do not address this issue, instead preferring to deprive seniors of care which would actually reduce final expenses in many to most cases.

My suspicion is that the entire bill is being written to subsidize WalMart's health insurance expenses. Obama is paying off Eduardo Rat-Rios and Wright Medical Equipment for sub-rosa endowments to achieve his current position.

Adequate controls, and deletion of many, if not most, earmarks, should be utilized to control expenses, rather than reducing Medicare and Medicaid.

Use of paraprofessionals in walk-in clinics, with MD review and/or oversight, can control other costs.

Webster's picture

Our leaders, fiddle while Rome burns.

This should be unacceptable in the United States.

Pete2069's picture

When are we ever going to learn!!!! We should be starting now to select a new democrat candidate which will vote for the policies of the people..

We bitch and than just keep electing the same d... people which are no better then the republicans..

How do you believe Pelosi , Reid , Feinstein , Schumer , blue dogs and the centralist were elected to office.

We the voters did not get a candidate in time for the democrat primary to purge these jokers from our party..

You need to start early and donate money to the candidate of your choice , rather than giving it to the democrat party to put the people in office they wish..

It is getting to be a good old boys club and their voters can go to h... They say how are they going to vote for a republican and then laugh about it..

This free trade bill which started in the Clinton administration has killed our jobs and economy and than we have the banking Empire's corruption finish it off..

And just who does our government help .. Of course the Banking Empire , the auto empire and now it is the health empire..


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Janeane The Acerbic Goblin's picture

Here are 2 quotes from Mr. Brock that really stand out...

it’s cheaper to get on Greyhound or even buy an airline ticket and come down and get what might have been $4,000 or $5,000 worth of care taken care of free of charge.

64 percent of everything we do is now right here in America.

Those quotes alone should make Congress act, but they're too busy on vacation. What do they have to worry about? They have health care.

sambolini's picture

I heard this week is that their staffs need and deserve time with their families. I wish I could remember where so I could post the link. Maybe it was quited here.

One of the R senators onm C-Span this week used s similarly specious argument when a caller asked him why the congrees doesn't eat their own dog food. His reply was that you could force the staffs to do with the substandard overpriced plans they are considering forcing the rest of us to buy.

"I heard this week is that their staffs need and deserve time with their families. "

So do all the people working 2 or 3 jobs just to stay one step away from financial ruin. But then, that's how it is in that den of sociopaths known as Washington, DC (aka - "The Beltway") isn't it?? "Gimme mine, gimme mine, gimme mine, fuck you, gimme mine!"


If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.

George Carlin

President Obama shouldn't let the house or senate go on vacation until health care is worked out. Make them work OVERTIME (gasp perish the thought).

CoIntelPro.PronktasticlyAgainst.SCLM.E-Voting.Incumbents's picture

the corporatists pretend to care, then find a million reasons not to demonstrate that they do.


Some stuff you can't make up!

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

the corporatists pretend to care, then find a million reasons not to demonstrate that they do.

Or

The corporatists pretend to care, they have one reason not to: unmitigated self interest.

They find a million opportunities to demonstrate it.


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

Amitola's picture

looking like that's what Obama and the rest of the Dems are doing now -full-bore >>>>pretending to care.

I still have the feeling that anything the congress-critters pass now, in a hurry, will be a piece of crap - something that is sure to fail, just like they want it to. Bastards.

Medicare is an already established, well-functioning program -- how hard can it be to just expand what already works for the rest of us??!!


"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy

It's not hard. In fact it could have been done years ago. Just like we could have renewable alternative energy such as solar 30 years ago. The fact that it wasn't is because this is not our country; it belongs to the AMA, Big Oil, and the Insurance industry.


If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.

George Carlin

Floridiot's picture

we notice that this is not being played on corporate teevee

That's because the over-paid, pampered babblers who comprise the mainstream media are more worried about rich people paying 1% or so more in taxes to provide healthcare for the rest of America.


If you have selfish, ignorant citizens, you're gonna get selfish, ignorant leaders.

George Carlin

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

About the only lesson Barack Obama has learned from the Hillary and Bill health insurance debacle of 1993-1994 is to leave Michelle Obama out of his current drive to get something-anything-through the Congress labeled "reform".

Otherwise, he is making the same mistakes of blurring his proposal, catering to right-wing Democrats and corporatist Republicans, who want an even mushier "reform" scam, and cutting deals with the drug, hospital, and health insurance industries.

Nader from CommonDreams

Health Care Hypocrisy

here


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

sambolini's picture

that I voted for Ralph.

Thanks for the link.

Rosanneofpgh's picture

It seems that goverment health care is good enough for the congresscritters and their families but not good enough for the very people who put them in a position to have such great health care coverage.

Is there any way that the coverage of the congresscritters and their families can be cancelled and they are made to pay for their own healthcare?

See how fast a single payer insurance plan would be voted in if they had to contend with substandard or NO health care at all!! Or, God forbid, they had to put out their own money to pay for their insurance!

The dems dont need any rethugs to vote for the plan, ALL the dems just have to vote for it, including the bluedog hypocrites. And those who dont vote for the plan dont get to participate in it.

PRESIDENT OBAMA, IF YOU TRULY HAVE THE INTEREST OF THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS AT HEART, GO TO WISE, VIRGINIA AND SEE WHATS HAPPENING TO THE POOR AND MIDDLE CLASS IN THIS LAND OF ?PLENTY!

Floridiot's picture

take a survey there to see which party the patients "cling" to

Evet's picture

Physicians also. In case you haven't noticed.

ConcernedCanuck's picture

seems to state it anywhere, so does anyone know exactly how long these millions of Americans have been without healthcare? It didn't matter last year, or the last 30, so why all of a sudden does some piece of crap legislation have to be passed in a flurry of "oops, we didn't know that was in there" bills?

smchris's picture

"according to Physicians for a National Health Care Program, 22,000 people die each year because of being uninsured."

http://dar2dream.wordpress.com/2009/06/21/2304/

That means Congress is only killing off about 1833 Americans during their August vacation. That's fewer than 4 Americans killed off per Congress-critter -- although that's just for August of course. Basically, about one human sacrifice per week to the health care industry per Congress-critter.

kablooie's picture

Glad to hear about the big Congressional vacation enjoyed at taxpayer expense... meanwhile, I haven't been able to afford a dental visit since the 20th century!

JeremiadJones's picture

Here is my puzzlement:

45 million uninsured = 15 percent of the population = 85 percent insured.

Of the 15 percent who are not covered, most are healthy. Actual number of people who are truly in trouble = probably fewer than number of Iraqi women and children who have died as a direct result of Clinton's embargo + Bush's invasion.

Not trying to draw a parallel. Of course, the suffering of a million Americans counts for a lot more than the deaths of a million Iraqis, doesn't it?

The health-care "crisis" is relatively small potatoes. Almost all of us are already insured. Is this outpouring of angst a reflection of genuine compassion for the relatively small number of people who will be directly helped, or does it arise from an insane expectation that, somehow, health care is going to get cheaper when the government is running it?

JustMyWords's picture

How many people need to be "truly in trouble" before you think the problem is worth addressing?

JeremiadJones's picture

... is not the point, which is that the brouhaha over the problem is not justified by its actual magnitude. Where, for example, is the very legitimate concern over people who REALLY have no health care: Iraqi victims of US aggression, for example?

Methinks the noise over health care is a distraction from more pressing problems that the administration does not wish to tackle, such as how to reverse the course of empire.

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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

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