Calling In The Big Dawg: President Clinton to Address Senate Dems on Healthcare Vote
By Susie Madrak Tuesday Nov 10, 2009 11:00amHopefully the Big Dawg will make them see the political danger of screwing up this health care bill. Of course, since Sen. Bob Casey is already hard at work on a Stupak-type bill, I wouldn't count on them listening:
CNN has learned from two senior Democratic sources that former President Bill Clinton will attend the Senate Democrats' weekly luncheon Tuesday to address the caucus about health care.
A notice obtained by CNN went out to Senate Democrats saying, "All Senators should be aware that former President Clinton will be making a presentation on Health Care at tomorrow's caucus lunch. Senator Reid has requested that all Democratic Senators attend."
A constant refrain from Democratic leaders is that wavering Democrats must heed what they say is a lesson of the Clinton administration: fail to pass a health care reform bill, and congressional Democrats will suffer on Election Day.
With this visit at a critical time for health care in the Senate, the former president will be able to deliver that message in person.
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Let's see how Bill does with the unrestricted lobbying and greed of the corporations that control Congress.
Pushing this health bill is in the pockets of the health empire..
This bill gives the health companies 40 million new customers which are forced to buy a health policy from them..
This bill does not LOWER my health policy but the way I see it , My health insurance policy will cost me MORE>
You talk about the republicans selling the deceit and BS to Americans..
Well this is a bigger sellout than the one with the bailout to the banks.
We are force for the rest of our life to buy health insurance from a know company which has screwed us for YEARS.
Just watch , after these stupid corporate own democrats pass and force this piece of s... on us the republicans will have a field day showing Americans have they just got screwed..
is the final boot in the neck ...
Goodbye America ... you had a nice run.
All he has to say is, "Hey, Dickheads and airheads. Pass this shit or lose your fuckin' seat."
"And you'll be the bitches of theocrats and assholes for the rest of your political life."
"Hopefully the Big Dawg will make them see the political danger of screwing up this health care bill."
He might also say, "You've had your chance and you've nearly botched the thing. Now we're gonna do it doggie style."
Screwed up..
Tell ME... What does it do for US>>
The insurance companies will be popping the champagne tops with this coming wealth in the laps..
To Think Aaron Swartz of BlodProgressives.org is placing Dennis Kucinich in the same d... group as the blue Dogs because Dennis said this bill is not what it should be and NO>>
Democrats have never has a better democrat working for them..
They are taking up collections to run ads against them... Dennis has fought more and had more d.... guts then all these progressives put together..
I hope that Emanuel has paid them well for their support on this corporate bill..
It forces you to buy insurance from these same crooks.
It does not lower the cost of your policy.
It gives you no more benefits , but might take some away.
This bill is a joke and the progressives say they would demand a REAL robust health bill and this is not that...
Tell me what does this bill do..
People are saying that it opens the door for 96% of Americans , but I see it is open to only 2% and that is in 2013....
And this bill will be a co-op bill run by private health insurance companies..
But we will be forced to pay more for this corporate written health as soon as it if sign..
"Pass this shit or lose your fuckin'
seathealthcare.FIFY.
For everyone which is for this piece of garbage the they are calling a health bill ,,
tell me what it does for US>>
Then tell me what it does for the health empires like get them
40,000,000 new customers which they could never sign up in 100 years..
Looks as if Baucus , blue dogs , centrists , Obama and Emanuel receieved plenty for this give a way.
I am suppised that the progressives are pushing this corporate bill after saying they would not be for anything EXCEPT a rebust public option.. And that is something it is NOT>>
Emanuel stated that he would pull the funding and support for anyone not voting for this bill and it looks as it he made his point...
Chances are pretty good that some pinhead Repugnicant will use this as an opportunity to try to impeach him again over that there Lewinski thing. Shockingly scandalous it was, and a blot on America's pride that he got away with it.
My money's on John Ensign to make the first motion. ;-)
second and moral support of Gingrich!
Terms of Gingrich probation agreement prevent him providing his morals to anybody for anything.
Besides if Newt knew you were a cancer survivor he would withdraw his support anyway.
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http://media.portland.indymedia.org/images/20...
this is the WRONG health bill. It says that YOU will have purchase an insurance policy on your own body -- or face criminal charges, fines, jail. Essentially, it's a tax on being poor. As it stands, the bill is completely unworkable in our American way of doing things. It will become the first truly effective rallying point against Obama and progressive ideals. It is a regressive tax bill. It's doomed to be an utter failure, and likely to be declared unconstitutional when the first test case is brought.
Clinton should caution against it, rather than preach in favor. Congress, get back to the drawing board and devise a workable plan!
will have no problem coming up with an extra $5000 a year in tips just for Health Scare Insurance.
can certainly cough up another few hundred a month for abortion insurance.
Just in case, ya know.
Pretty sad when we have to get a Former President to lead the fight on healthcare. I voted for Obama, but he is turning out to be too wishy washy, and unwilling to lead.
President Obama may end up being a one termer like Jimmy.
if we don't pass a Health Care Bill. Even if it sucks.
responsible for the corporate take-over of this country. And this bill is very, very bad. If they pass it, it will be yet another Dem failure with respect to health insurance reform. That is, unless you are employed by a health insurance company or you own stock in them. Think about that bribees, and just because it will not be immediately in place does not mean we don't know what's coming.
Perhaps Clinton [with Rahm at his side] regailed the Dems with tales of his successes with NAFTA, repeal of Glass-Steagall and passage of Don't Ask, Don't Tell [to name a few].
This is like calling in Charles Mason to advise on public safety in LA.
Bill Buckner giving fielding advice? Don't get me wrong, I have oodles of respect for Clinton, but he didn't do so well when the right-wing lobbying machine challenged his health care reform.
Are you making the Bill Buckner analogy because of the whole "one getting between his legs"-thing?
explaining what happens when you ignore fielding advice (or your knees are so bad you just can't get the glove on the ground). Muff this play and you will be hated at home for decades.
I figured as much. I was just playing and trying hard to work in a stupid Bill Clinton joke.
does not require "hard" work. Ask Jay Leno.
Did you hear Moanica got a new job as a spokesmen?
For Hoover vacuums.
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And everbody close to Clenis knows not to buy any gifts for him from Old Navy
He's sick of old sea men.
I don't know, but everytime Jake Tapper posted a joke told at an Obama rally which Jake said would offend women, I sent that Clinton Joke in. It was always deleted. Finally they labeled me a chronic spammer. I like canned jokes, not meat.
'didn't do so well' your correct but i was thinking maybe clinton is aware why it didn't pass in the 90's.
he has experience/knowledge regarding the need for affordable health care insurance. i still say clinton set this up to eventually happen. nobody wins all the time. if we quit after failing none of us would be trying.
and he won't do it now. I'm just wondering if he'll somehow press for a (R)ahmocratic "victory" over a good health bill. my vote is that he'll shill for anything as long as iot can be called a political victory, even if it feeds the repug noise machine by being as bad as a repuglyKKKan bill, which it actually is, considering all the concessions made even before negotiations began.
We're fucked as a nation and bill will smile and tell us to take it like monica took the cigar. Just smile.
..but only if you dont' really want to make your point. The fact is that Bill Buckner had a stellar career both at the plate and in the field. It was unfortunate for him that his one really bad mistake came at a critical moment during a bid to get into the World Series.
Bill Buckner's Career - Stained by one Ground Ball
Watching the Ft Hood memorial now. Kind of weird seeing the stacked shipping containers all around the stage for security.
Glad to see the Chinese offering their support in these difficult times...
As the memorial is taking place whacko David Horowitz is sending out a fundraising e-mail that says in part:
"The Army knew Hassan was a supporter of the Islamic jihad against the west; he had been under investigation for six months.
Yet he remained an Army Major, with access to military intelligence and lethal weaponry."
Let's just make it a "Healthcare for Men" bill and get on with it.
Them womens shoulda never palled around with Lucifer in the first place!
Then when the Democratic Party does absolutely nothing over four years, we can vote Rapepublicans back in power and they can finish the hard work of completely wrecking the country and selling us all to the Chinese in return
for funding the wars against Iran, Venezuela and (what the hell!) we haven't invaded Mexico for a while...
The Democrats need to focus on some more liberal GOPers and try to pull them in the direction of the Public Option. If they can convince Snowe to forget the trigger and vote for the Public Option then the Democrats can forget Lieberman.
There ain't hardly any liberal Democrats!
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and stick their heads up each others asses and then roll them out onto a freeway. Problem solved.
somebody's car could be damaged!
Or the odd tank?
Perfect. Have the guy who signed the Gramm–Leach–Bliley Act, which required a trillion dollar bailout to enriched banks and brokerages, lobby for corporate welfare for the health insurance industry.
HR676
HR 676!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OYRNGSPHoU
What's not to love?
The most "progressive" bill is already just another corporate giveaway and it just gets worse from here on out.
A bad bill is worse than no bill, and this bill stinks already.
i'm not sure about this and i'm not defending clinton but was the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act veto proof by way of a majority vote? i can't remember.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Blil...
pass the corporatized healthcare bill and legally bleed the middle-class like a stuck pig. Please ignore the squealing. as long as this corporatist p-o-s bill guarantees money to the insurance companies, PASS IT.
the fact that this undermines Obama is too big to ignore. It really looks like (R)ahm is running the WH.
I truly believe that clinton's political capital is overrated, if not completely spent. not everyone is a clinton sycophant. just remember who lost the niomination.
worst of all, this does not bode well for any form of public option because it gives the premature excuse of Democratic support for whatever the fuck passes and is called a "success".
With the statements made about this and the actions that belie them, why assume the president is there to help us? The current president is against the health care bill or it would be one. The former president is a lobbyist now. They consider the voter quite uppity, and beneath their dignity.
It is too much to assume that this the opposite of what we hope? Me fellows are easily confus'd by rum and gaiety.
Obama will have the guts to VETO this cobbled-up Frankenstein of a bill? If he has any sense of self-preservation, he will.
I certainly hope so. It wouldn't be difficult to explain to us, the American public, why it's unfair to bleed the middle class. And I don't expect the bill to be substantially improved in the Senate, then back to the House again.
... that would require him to actually lead, and then the Dems won't have any thing to use as propaganda for the 2010 midterms.
Obama would sign a KKK membership application if he could do it in a Rose Garden ceremony and pretend it was a "health care bill."
Stupak is unacceptable.
Once you start stepping between doctors and patients and start carving medical procedures out, the battle is lost.
Women deserve health care. Not all abortions are first trimester elective procedures. Some are mid and late term terminations of wanted babies that either cannot live (due to organs failing to form, for example) or a pregnancy that threatens the mother's life (pre eclampsia, toxemia, placental abruption, etc.) These women are in a horrible place and deserve to be able to discuss all options with their doctors and make the best informed decision they can.
Stupak takes that ability away for anyone using a public policy, funds to help purchase a policy, or a policy that's part of the exchange. Women who currently have abortion coverage will lose it, and I can't see a reason for any insurance company to cover it, especially not at a reasonable rate.
They've been shown a loophole out; they will take it.
Women who have pregnancy complications are just sh!t out of luck with the bill as it is.
Scrap it. It's bullshit. Scrap it and come back after Christmas with single-payer.
What comes out of the conference committee might bear little resemblance to what goes in.
I'm hoping that what finally emerges is good enough to help keep the GOP on the outs so that next time around HR can be "tweaked" until it becomes what it should: single-payer.
... on what can come out of the conference committee. Already, the House bill, which will set the progressive "limit" on the ultimate bill, is a blatant corporate giveaway that will subsidize and enrich the very entities that have caused the problem. This will be reconciled with a Senate bill which was drafted in large part by WellPoint.
We've already been had and the attacks from the Right are little more than kabuki theater where we are being herded into supporting a very corporate bill to avoid an even more corporate bill.
A bad bill is worse than no bill, and this bill is already bad and bound to get worse.
Don't just abandon it; defeat it.
Call in Billy Jack!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpkSqtDtZS4
Bill Clinton (R-Foreign Elements) addresses his fellow corporate lackeys in the Senate:
Suckers…
n/t
Obviously someone needs to address them since they're too stupid to figure shit out on their own.
with health care reform and... oh, wait...
i bought into the increment strategy as the pathway of health care insurance reform. a means to an endpoint. the more i read and listen to some you the more i believe i'm mistaken. i have been under the belief we need the "robust public option". i also believe everyone should have health care insurance. i just felt that the "public option" would be a transition to a universal single payer system. in my opinion this country has been and continues to lean to the right. i never thought a "single payer" could/would happen. i still don't......... but now i believe the transition i thought could happen is being destroyed.
Clarity is a gift. A very good one. The only reason they pretend to care about real people at all is because they fear open rebellion. There are more of us than there are of them. But now that they have a private military (Blackwater, Wackenhut, et al.), this advantage may disappear. A private military can be used against citizens. No law against that, and with the weasels who are making laws now, there never will be. We have so much to look forward to, don't we.
I mean, he did so great last time, didn't he?
Different times. More people support it now and there are less Rethugs in congress to obstruct it.
What's the point of not inviting Republicans when they've got a ready & willing mole in Joe Lieberman to give them a detailed report afterward?
I'm sure when the teabaggers from FreedomWorks and Patients First say, "no government takeover of my health care" the rest of us can counter them by saying "no more corporate health insurance stranglehold on my health care, money, and life!"
These people, the teabaggers, blue dog dems, and Republicans must really be convincing themselves that an educated, functioning society is automatically socialism. Since when is getting better regulations on corporations and insurance industries that can do, say, and charge whatever they want a means of socialism? Reasonable people like FDR, which Ralph Nader recently reiterated in a truthout.org interview, is that capitalism and corporatism is (or can be) a form of fascism.
Also, when I see these conservative bumper stickers, they're often on large, gas guzzling SUVs or other pieces of rust on wheels like "Don't tread on me" and Joe Wilson's quote with the Obama O in it, "YOU LIE!"
The Big Dawg is worth 1,000 stained dresses.
No wisecracks from anyone that he's probably stained that many.
is bullsh*t. They took an already strong bill and watered it down with giveaways to the insurance and pharma companies that have been screwing us for years. I hope the bill doesn't get passed, then the Dems remember why they were put in office and come back with a real health care bill. And if the Rethugs don't like it, f*ck them. They won't vote for it anyway and they're OUTNUMBERED.
...bring in the 'Big' (according to Monica) 1990s Corporate Shill to front for the Downsized 2009 Corporate Shill ... you guys are so f@cked.
(Signed: Canadian. Land of Free Health Care. You might want to check it out.)
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