Oh darn, looks like the wingnut team scores! No, seriously, isn't it just a little wacky that some people are more interested in who they get to blame than in the fact that someone tried to blow up Times Square? It doesn't rock my world at all that I was wrong about it being a teabagger (or Wile E. Coyote) - but had it gone the other way, you can be sure the Freepers would be in quite a froth, trying to come up with some way to deny reality!
Federal authorities are closing in on the man they say is a person of interest in the Times Square car bomb attempt this weekend, who is described as a naturalized American citizen who hails from Pakistan and just returned after spending five months there.
There is growing evidence the bomber did not act alone and had ties to radical elements overseas, with one senior official telling ABC News there are several individuals believed to be connected with the bombing and that at least one of them is a Pakistani-American.
Attorney General Eric Holder said today the investigators had made "substantial progress" in tracking the man who drove a Nissan Pathfinder into New York's Times Square with a crude bomb that failed to detonate.
Officials declined to provide the specifics that led them to believe there were overseas links to a larger plot.
I read the ABC article form your link.
And what makes no sense to me is the Pathfinder's owner said he sold the vehicle for several hundred dollars to the person of interest.
This ain't 1975. What vehicle sells for several hundred dollars?
It doesn't make sense to me. I'm not buying the story. Not yet, anyways.
I read somewhere it was sold for $1300. More precisely... 13 one hundred dollar bills.
That is several hundred ;)
Study the symptoms not the virus...
and that stupid setup was the best he could do? Firecrackers? If these are the international terrorist groups we're up against, we're spending way too much money on counterterrorism...
Nine years ago some idiot tried to take down an airplane with an exploding shoe and today we still have to go through airport security barefoot.
I have to get strip searched when I try to sell my car?
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S. Thompson
them to believe there were overseas links to a larger plot"
I say the reason they declined to provide specifics...is because there are none. (because officials just want to scare us)
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That's your job?
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is that there seemed to be so much more panic/interest over the failed recent shoe bomb attempt (because it was on a plane?). My god, if that bomb had been set up properly and had gone off, it would have been horrific.
What "failed recent shoe bomb attempt"? The politician with a fucking stupid sense of humor?
fire crackers and fertilizer just don't seem international to me. Even the Hutaree Hillbillies for Jesus had better plans. This was the plan of an idget.
Doesn't seem post-adolescent either, does it?
I have my doubts. Although, the underwear bomber wasn't a genius.
I still have my doubts. After all the viscous rhetoric coming from the armed teabaggers. It's a wait and see thing for me.
What is your conceptual, continuity?
When they bust this international terrorist I'll bet his apt. is covered with pictures of Sarah Palin with parts of the pictures chewed away.
I find this post to be, in part, positively disgraceful for this site (which I enjoy immensely).
Just as it is wrong to see such base racial profiling on a rightwing nutjob site about a suspect in a violent act having darker skin (he MUST be an Islamic extremist), I find it just as wrongheaded to see idle speculation on this blog (He has white skin, he MUST have been a Teabagger).
It's absolutely shoddy journalism at its best, and a sad comment on prejudicial thinking at its worst.
It is also not as if there have been people of ALL races implicated in acts of Islamic extremism (Adam Gadahn, John Walker Lindh, Abdulhakim Muhammad - AK shooter). No group easily fits into a readily identifiable category like this article implies.
they know just who to look for.
Some stuff you can't make up!
As long as it's still a mystery I think it's a good mental exercise to imagine answers to this modern day who-dunit. Of course right wing sites have ignorant racist goober theories. It's inbred into them. They can't not hate. Impossible. Does that mean that hippy lefty commies can't have theories too? We always distrust the goobers, neo nazi hate mongers. Always. We can't help it. I don't think this puts C&L in a bad light. Continue to theorize and kick the teascrotums in their bags.
The FBI was holding hands with all of the other ones.
In other words...entrapment
the attempts were very, very sloppy.
Some stuff you can't make up!
fertilizer,firecrackers and propane (think fire "crackers") are very common in "beckistan". you know I'd say the baggers (crackers again) have compromised beckistan and directed their hate towards the great satan.
for officials to announce on National television that they are lookin for a naturalized Pakistani-American guy who just got back from visiting home for 5 months...
...and they haven't even caught him yet?
now the Pakistani guy knows Eric Holder is looking for him...
Eric Holder would have done better to pretend they were looking for a balding white guy!
(Now Eric Holder and his FBI are gonna have trouble sneaking up on him when they "get real close" and all the "real progress" that Holder has made is gonna come to a stop!
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they're intentionally saying that to mislead us. Maybe they don't want to tip the "real" guy off?
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So, when do we attack Pakistan? Pretty damn inept terrorist.
to draw up the plans.
Some stuff you can't make up!
I'd say sending Drones counts as attacking.
Why would we attack Pakistan if the guy is supposedly from there. This is justification to attack North Korea. Or somewhere.
...isn't it just a little wacky that some people are more interested in who they get to blame than in the fact that someone tried to blow up Times Square?
This is how it will play out. First, the media speculates a lot. Throw enough shit against the wall, and something will stick. This feeds the bloggie crowd, which then posts a bunch of stuff on lefty and righty blogs, speculating even more. Then, someone floats out South Park, and someone else floats out a Tim McVeigh TeaBagger as the culprit. Then, someone claims responsibility, and we all take that as the final truth...sorta like 9/11.
If, having ruled out domestic terrrrism, the right wing noise machine then heaves a sigh of relief, they'll go all out, blaming Obama and Nancy Pelosi for not protecting our national security somehow. This gets carried out into a consolidated meme of how we have some other enemy to fret about, making sure to frame the argument in such a way that everyone responds like Rupert wants us to. John Boehner comes out and criticizes Napolitano or something, and we have a story. Simple as that!
If it does turn out to be domestic, then they'll trot out the lone wolf meme, and how the left are a bunch of meanies, and how it has nothing to do with the IRS.
Either way, wacky is as wacky does...and our national discourse is retarded bullshit, for the most part.
In a closed society where everybody's guilty, the only crime is getting caught. In a world of thieves, the only final sin is stupidity. - Hunter S. Thompson
I guess it was not the bomb-vest type?
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My first thought was South Park. I thought of Time Warner... time square? Then I noticed it was not Time Warner who ran south park. Just from a recent events hunch? :-/
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Wow, this site has really gone down hill over the years. You guys have turned into that which you despise most. The name calling an inability for your side to admit mistakes is immature. I don't think I'm going to come back here too often, there is no more dignity on this site.
"an inability for your side to admit mistakes is immature."
You should read it again?
"I was wrong about it being a teabagger"
Amended: Will you admit your mistake?
Study the symptoms not the virus...
The damage was already done when yesterday I read something to the affect that the bomber was likely a "Beckian" when in fact it turned out to be a Pakistani terrorist. This kind of jumping to conclusions is what I hate politics, and it really turns off people who prefer to be level headed, fair and open minded, and fence mending instead of bridge burning. This site has turned into a full on hate fest, and I don't want any part of it any longer. It is now going to be off of my bookmarks.
-Signing off.
you to pack, or call you a cab?
Thank you for your concern.
The mistake is understandable Susie.
Remember:?
"Texas GOP clown Pete Sessions last made the news when he suggested the doomed Republicans become more like the Taliban."
Study the symptoms not the virus...
...that prejudice and bigotry towards teabaggers is "understandable" because of what a "GOP clown" said??
I'm disappointed in you truth critic...
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Well Libertarians and Republicans seem to be two sides of the same coin for the most part, in my opinion.
Why did Ron Paul become a Republican?
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...repub so he could get in the debates...
since dems and repubs tend to exclude independent type candidates from the big national debates
which I agree...(makes him a bit of a sellout)
but his voting record is very different that of most repubs. (and Dems)
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We all knew the guy in the video looked like Glen Beck. Wow, does this really mean Glen Beck has ties to Al-Qaida? Well that would explain his hatred for America and his lunatic ranting of hate, fear and lies.
I'm going to have to see a lot of proof before I'll believe Beck isn't involved in this plot. If he didn't do it, why doesn't he just come out and say so?
True that, the thing everybody wanted to know (me included) was who was the dude..what was his affiliation to whichever group ...
Still, we are conditioned to this due to our guys on the right wing who blame everything on the left or the Dems. The real problem (aside from folk trying to kill is) is that our society is polarized to such a degree that I would never thought possible. The wingers and teabaggers are fond of the Gadsen flag, "Don't Tread on Me" rather WE should be fond of the other snake flag from our posterity "Unite or die"
and a big thanks to the street vendors who allerted the NYPD of the
smoking car......Perhaps some worthy citizen would help those vendors with the offer of a job.....
Just the Facts ma'am just the facts
how the fuck do these guys do anything right?
plans for bomb making can be found all over the net
you can do it with household items
but fire crackers????
and hey, since no one was killed or injured, can obama now point to himself and tell america that he is keeping them safe?
I threw up a little bit when I read the article posted on here where she insinuated it was a teabagger. This was right after she said how pathetic Limbaugh was for doing it, then she said she was going to jump to conclusions anyways.
You're doing a damn good job of giving liberals a bad name. I hope you don't get paid for this.
Agreed
Couldn't of said it better. I've gotten into the habit of skipping her posts, even when the subject is matter good...
Just because you put up the disclaimer that you're guessing with no evidence doesn't mean you don't have to own up when you're wrong. You blindly speculated that, because the suspect was a white guy in his 40's, 'I'm thinking it's gotta be a Beck patriot'.
You were wrong. Yet somehow you've got to tie it in to bashing the teabaggers.
Not that they don't deserve to be bashed, when approprite. You were just wrong here.
Post = Trash
Political differences aside, last time I checked that bomb was meant for blue and red Americans, hippies and teabaggers, people with a conscience and a people like this author. This is a shockingly tasteless abuse of reporting and commentary and the quickest way I can think of to join the long list of disingenuous journalists. Still worse is this disingenuous half-apology shrouded in partisan mockery.
H-U-M-O-R
And all the posts were humorous except for the priggish ones by people who didn't get it.
If Susie Madrak EVER apologizes for, or even writes an explanation of that post, I'm gonna burn my computer and be done with it. There has to be a line drawn somewhere.
or only post such one day a year, on April 1st.
Along a similar vein, if a comedian has to explain his jokes, either he/she isn't a good comedian OR that the intended audience is collectively far too dense. Susie Madrak doesn't need to apologize for anything she writes, ever. But I certainly do question the Calvinist humorlessness of some of C&L's bloggers ...
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
If anything at all , better to have posted we don't know who , we must wait and see . Period . What purpose does this malarkey serve ?
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Since they don't understand the basic science of explosives or don't watch Mythbusters
...he uses big words like 'particularly' and 'delicatessen.' -- Jack
I am not convinced of anything, especially so soon after the event. Remember....we got pretty well burned not too many years ago, by jumping to the official version of 'things.'
So Pakistani Taliban are going to fight back against American forces killing them in their own country by putting a car bomb in Times Square? Because they know we'll be scared and leave? And not go ape shit and bomb them big time?
Okay, got it!
I can remember back in the day when Islamist radicals could actually make a bomb that worked, or actually had a weapon that could kill instead of paint a tree. But every plot carried out since the "dirty bomb" guy have all been based upon specious "conspiracies" -- either crude drawings of dirty bombs, a bunch of kids with paint-ball guns in the woods, five black guys from Miami with nothing more than a notion, plots of blowing up airports using their fuel delivery pipes, pizza delivery guys who would attack a heavily armed military post with small arms, suicide bombers on planes without real bombs, and now our NYC car-bomber without a real bomb.
The level of ineptitude of our current crop of Islamist radicals defies belief. In virtually every instance, there was a confidential informer or worse, a government "agent provocateur" to (mis-)guide and betray them. It's not as if there hasn't been plenty of time for the USA to have placed under-cover "boots on the ground" all the way from Britain to Yemen. And the only events that have borne domestic violent fruit have been "Islamist radicals" acting on their own, like the attack at Fort Hood -- but we aren't officially calling that a terrorist incident, are we?
Until I know a whole lot more about this Times Square "bomber", I will stick by my prior assessment that these events are contrived political theatre, for the benefit of our Big Brother and the furthering of his agendas.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
if he is not the guy in the video, why doesn't he just come out and say so? Is it because he doesn't want to remind his viewers of his (possible) criminal past? You know, that young girl who was raped and murdered, had her heart eaten. The one Beck refuses to debunk for some unknown reason.
Nope, not until we get some answers from Beck am I going to believe for a minute that this car bomb was set by someone else. Even if that someone else is caught and admits to it.
Using the word "innocent" in a sentence including "Glenn Beck" is just so very wrong -- "crazy" or "bat-shite crazy", well that's appropriate. Innocent? Never.
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"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
...to a "blind squirrel" by this poster qualifies as expert testimony indeed. The original post ranks right up there with another C&L poster who referred to the foiled Detroit airplane attempt as an "alleged" terrorist attempt.
It's obvious that the nutjobs on the right operate based on pure ignorance. I'll keep coming back until I figure out whether this kind of stuff from the left is also simple stupidity, or whether childish naivete is more responsible.
God, this sight has become such a joke...if you don't know, shut your mouth.
"Isn't it just a little wacky that some people are more interested in who they get to blame than in the fact that someone tried to blow up Times Square?
What a monumental hypocrite you are. Rock your world? How could anyone so firmly buried in hardened manure be moved by mere fact?
"Isn't it just a little wacky that some people are more interested in who they get to blame than in the fact that someone tried to blow up Times Square?
What a monumental hypocrite you are. Rock your world? How could anyone so firmly buried in hardened manure be moved by mere fact?
This account is dull.
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