Health Officials: Still Wary -- But Hopeful
By Susie Madrak Monday May 04, 2009 12:00pmThis is good news, because I don't think the economy can handle another major blow:
With four Washington area schools closed over the swine flu outbreak and the region bracing for another tense week of flu news, top health officials here and abroad projected yesterday a cautious optimism that the new virus is not as lethal as initially feared.
Genetic analysis has failed to detect in the influenza virus the "virulence factors" seen in the killer 1918 Spanish flu or the avian flu that surfaced earlier this decade, Richard E. Besser, acting director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said yesterday.
Moreover, the new virus may have been more widespread in Mexico than originally reported, which would make the seemingly high mortality rate there a misperception, he added.
"We are starting to see that there was widespread flu in Mexico," Besser said on NBC's "Meet the Press," as he joined two other Obama administration officials in making the rounds of Sunday morning talk shows. "As we learn more about how widespread this is, it may be that the rates of severe disease in Mexico will end up being not different than what we see here."








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..illegal war but we can't make enough Tamaflu for our neighbors.
What a world!
I've been wondering about the people who died in Mexico. Did they live in remote areas where good hospitals were not available? Did they have access to doctors and meds immediately when they became sick? Were they otherwise healthy people at the time they got the flu? Just curious.
had little dogs they contantly spilled off their laps laughing at blog comments
I’m calling shenanigans on you
is home to take the call, but if so, won't give a mulligan.
Okay, just you wait and see. If a shenanigan officer shows up at your door, don't say I didn't warn you. Oh shit, my little dog just fell from my lap. Damn, I don't feel so good.
http://www.h1n1maps.com/
deaths:
13 in Mexico City
3 in Guerrero, Mexico
1 in Oaxaca
The CDC might offer it's own map.
A report from ten years ago indicated the air in Mexico City is so foul that it was equal to smoking a couple packs of cigarettes a day.
that bacon fat has similar properties to olive oil!
There IS a god!!!
that bacon (not Kevin) cures all disease.
mmmmmm Bacon (Kevin).
I don't know if it cures all disease... but it does always make me feel better. :)
Meaning what exactly. I don't get it.
in my household has flu.
We stayed away from trains, planes, and subways. Thanks Mr. Veep.
to equate bacon squeezins to olive oil as far as health benefits are concerned.
But I will continue to eat bacon (not Kevin) because it's delicious.
n/t
disoriented and mistake his can of bacon squeezins for
his sheep squeezins and end up in deep fried caca.
thank goodness for the properties that are NOT similiar.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationw...
At least bacon grease is probably 100% bacon grease ...
Is Monsanto working with swine now?
Didn't they use to shrink people at Disneyland awhile back?
you bastards pull me back in!
wait...
Who used to shrink people at disneyland? Monsanto?
Now...I'm all confused.
And this has NOTHIN to do with mules either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adventure_Thru_I...
Prepare for the Olive flu next.
It's pork free.
That's a lot of coloring books! http://www.time.com/time/politics/article/0,8...
Anyone see buchanan on the mclaughlin group this sunday. Said that if the death toll from the swine flu equals the average annual death toll of the regular flu, it would be a disaster for Obama.
Yes, he used the words average and annual so he's aware and is saying that if the death toll from the swine flu is the SAME as the death toll we get EVERY year in the U.S. from the flu, its somehow a catastrophic tragedy that is Obama's fault.
That's top-shelf conservative reasoning for you.
Edit: btw, the average annual death toll from flu is 35k.
If the flu didn't get as bad as it might have, the President over did the warnings. If the flue gets worse than expected, the President didn't give enough warnings. No matter what this president does, Pat and the rest will criticize him...even if it makes no sense at all.
Obama purposely brought back a rather non-virulent strain of flu from Mexico, so as when it did NOT cause a major epidemic, he would be looked on as a hero. How much ya wanna bet some Fox Fool comes up with this? Maybe I should send it in?
And his name starts with an O too! (looks like a zero!)
I came home this weekend from a stay in the hospital. All the health professionals I spoke with while I was there were upset with the treatment this issue is getting from the corporate media - trying to panic people and make this outbreak into a health crisis for the ENTIRE WORLD!!!
They all said it has been overblown and hyped into something that it is not. They noted that we have always had flu outbreaks and people have always died. They were observing that people WERE becoming panicked -- by design of course.
In Mexico the availability and quality of care for the poor is abysmal. This is probably why so many have died there.
The bright side? We got Sebelius confirmed and money for the pandemic program.
*
... just in case. $92. Goddamn price-gouging pharmacist.
Anyway, I got a phone call from the CDC. Well actually, it was a call from my cousin, who is an MD/PhD research scientist for the CDC (Center for Disease Control, in Atlanta).
She says the worry is not about this current flu -- rather, it is about the third wave of this flu, which is projected to hit sometime next fall. The virus is expected to mutate and come back in a second, slightly worse wave. Then possibly mutate once more, with a potentially killer strain that will be hard to beat.
So anyway, she was worried enough to be calling her relatives and getting them to lay in a supply of Tamiflu while there is still some available. Damn, though -- 92 bucks for a single dose! Now I'll feel wasteful if I don't get to use it ...
http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en...
...sick, or gay, or smell funny, or drive a car that isn't as nice as all the shiny new Volvos and Tahoes out in the church parking lot, or...
Seriously? Sick people should stay away from church? What happened to miracles and healing and all that omnipotence talk I heard so much about as a kid?
I agree that news outlets have one thing in mind: ratings. The more fear they can strike into you, the more likely you are to watch. But this is not to say that there is no reason to be concerned. As with any influenza outbreak, the more you know, the better prepared you are to handle it. However, the media consistently compare the current outbreak with previous pandemics, particularly the 1918 pandemic, and the chances of such a disastrous pandemic are exceedingly slim. When the Vice-President of the United States goes on television and essentially tells people to not go outside and to avoid crowded places, it not only demonstrates his ignorance on the subject, but spreads that ignorance to everyone who listens to his nonsense. This causes undue panic, and makes people think they may die just by getting on a bus, subway or airplane. The truth is, no one really knows how serious this outbreak, or a subsequent winter re-emergence, will be. But to compare it to the 1918 influenza pandemic, largely because they both happen to be H1N1 strains, is ridiculous.
By all estimations, the 2009 outbreak is already a pandemic. However, a pandemic only means that cases have been reported in various countries around the world. It by no means suggests that this disease is going to be as severe as the 1918 virus. It is estimated that between 70 million and 100 million people died in the 1918 pandemic. So far, only 26 people have died worldwide as a result of this virus, 25 in Mexico and 1 in the United States. Compare these figures to the annual death toll caused by “regular” influenza: in the United States alone, more than 36,000 deaths occur annually as a result of influenza, and between 250,000 and 500,000 deaths occur worldwide. Clearly, the 2009 Influenza A(H1N1) virus has a long way to go to reach either of these statistics.
In my professional opinion (I am a virologist), it is unlikely that this virus reaches anywhere near the severity of the 1918 pandemic. First of all, the disease reporting is far better today than in 1918. When cases occur practically anywhere in the world, those cases are reported and everyone around the world knows about it quickly. A disease as severe as the 1918 influenza is not going to sneak up on us. This gives us time to prepare. One of the good things that has arisen from the media firestorm is that people are taking the outbreak seriously enough to go to the hospital as soon as symptoms arise. Early treatment is key to preventing the development of severe complications due to influenza infection. Furthermore, we actually know how to care for patients now, unlike in 1918. A virus would have to be extremely virulent to cause as many deaths as the 1918 flu, and this virus has thus far given no signs of being that virulent. So, we should all calm down and use some common sense when thinking about this. Panic helps no one.
By the way, if you don't take Tamiflu pretty much immediately after symptoms develop, it is not going to help. And, for some people, the side effects are worse than the flu. Not to say it is a bad drug, just a word of caution before rushing out to stockpile this very expensive drug.
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