As Health-Care 'Reform' Comes Down To The Wire, The Lobbyists Are Winning.
By Susie Madrak Monday Oct 12, 2009 9:00amIt's pretty clear that any health care "reform" bill will be a sorry compromise between what the New York Times on Sunday so delicately calls "organized interests."
This is important, because as you may have figured out, we're the only non-organized interest. No one is inviting us to the table to have a reasonable discussion (and no, allowing us to leave comments on the White House website is not a "discussion.") That means the proposals that are most likely to cut costs and improve efficiency are least likely to remain, and the ones most likely to remain are the ones that stick it to us.
For now, that seems inevitable. Although Congress does have its inspirational members, the legislative body is still a wholly-owned subsidiary of the banking and insurance industries. We're more likely to see progress in legislative tweaks after the bill is finally passed:
WASHINGTON — As the health care debate moves to the floor of Congress, most of the serious proposals to fulfill President Obama’s original vow to curb costs have fallen victim to organized interests and parochial politics.
Peter R. Orszag, the White House budget director, says containing costs will be a priority as health care legislation advances.
And now the last two initiatives with real bite that are still in contention — a scaled-back “Cadillac tax” on high-cost health plans and a nonpartisan Medicare budget-cutting commission — are under furious assault.
Most economists’ favorite idea for slowing the growth of health care spending was ending the income tax exemption for employer-paid health insurance to make lower-cost plans more attractive. But that would hurt workers with big benefit plans, and a labor-union lobbying blitz helped kill that idea by the Fourth of July.
Lobbying by doctors, hospitals and other health care providers, meanwhile, dimmed the prospects of various proposals to cut into their incomes, including allowing government negotiation of Medicare drug prices and creating a government insurer with the muscle to lower fee payments.
“The lobbyists are winning,” said Representative Jim Cooper, a conservative Tennessee Democrat who teaches health policy.
Total health care costs in the last 20 years have doubled to about 16 percent of the economy, with no signs of tapering. Along with universal coverage, Mr. Obama has made controlling those costs a central pillar of his health care overhaul, calling the current course “unsustainable.” The effort is a pivotal test of his campaign promise to break the stranglehold of special interests.
In his weekly radio address on Saturday, Mr. Obama applauded the bill set for a vote next week in the Senate Finance Committee. “By attacking waste and fraud within the system,” he said, “it will slow the growth in health care costs, without adding a dime to our deficits.”
In an interview, Peter R. Orszag, the White House budget director and the official most associated with the drive to cut costs, singled out the proposed Medicare commission and the “Cadillac tax” as evidence of progress. “A key priority now,” Mr. Orszag said, “is to make sure cost containment holds up as we move through the legislative process."
Neither element appears in any of the other four health care bills on Capitol Hill, and both face dug-in resistance in the House.
Although the bills contain other measures aimed at medical costs, most of the surviving ones do not antagonize any organized interest. Among them are voluntary efficiency measures like encouraging the coordination of medical records, disseminating information comparing the effectiveness of treatments and various pilot projects.
White House officials argue that in any case it is prudent to start with such tests, and that many could be expanded to more comprehensive programs. But their real impact is hard to gauge, and the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office assigns them little weight. (The budget office credited the Finance Committee bill with reducing the federal deficit, but how much it will slow the growth of total public and private health spending is another question.)
The tax on gold-plated insurance plans is the last vestige of most economists’ favorite idea, eliminating the tax exemption for employer plans. The finance bill would impose a 40 percent excise tax on insurance plans that cost more than $8,000 a year for an individual or $21,000 for a family.
The bill has aroused the frantic opposition of labor and business lobbyists who appear to have found friends in the Capitol. On Wednesday, 157 House Democrats — a majority of the party — signed a letter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi opposing the tax.
“It has no legs in the House,” said Representative Pete Stark, the California Democrat who is chairman of the health subcommittee of the tax-writing panel.
The proposed Medicare commission, aimed at providers instead of consumers, is becoming a case study in the political difficulty of reducing medical payments.
The commission was intended to side-step the interest-group pressure that often stymies Congress. Modeled after the nonpartisan commission for military base closings, it would present a roster of Medicare cuts that Congress could block only with legislation.
But along the way, the White House and the Senate Finance Committee have cut deals for political support with lobbyists that may circumscribe the cost cuts, potentially including the recommendations of the commission.








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too much still?
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WHO LOBBIES FOR WE, THE PEOPLE, ANYMORE?
MOST CERTAINLY NOT OUR ELECTED OFFICIAL...
... THEY TAKE BRIBES AGAINST THE PEOPLE THAT ELECTED THEM!
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no kidding...
evidently, we, the people have no representatives
in congress. we have been kicked out by buacus
from the beginning and now the only ones who have
the priviledge of special meetings with obama
are the special interests of the health insurance
corps and pharmaceutical corps.
the American people have been FUCKED AGAIN...
you can die for America but don't ask for help,
NONE IS COMING.
...that so many Congresscreatures don't see anything wrong with dealing with hookers; they are literally whores themselves, selling themselves to "organized interests."
they even bend over and grease
up their own asses for easy access.
Money always talks.
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But we have to empty washington if we are going to have a country!
What's the incentive to fix it? What are you gonna do vote repugnacan?
Might as well diddle around with borrowers rights, shawls worn in public, or the flu. I wonder how it feels to have great aspirations and accomplish so little? Is his only legacy to be that he changed Bush's tone to a more peaceful one, received the Nobel peace prize, and then escalated the adventure in Afganistan?
No guts or no morality? to veto this health care abortion either! We are @^#&ED!
Every last one of these deals has been unnecessary and downright criminal.
Congressional Budget Office (CBO) score's the baucus plan at $829 Billion over a 10 year period, that is paid for. The CBO also states that it will lower the deficit by $80 Billion and it would be much lower if there was a public option.
Criminally corrupt politicians are the reason the U.S. is ranked near the bottom of every catagory when ranked next to other modern, industrialized nations. Time for publically funded elections.
lieberman $12.6M, mcconnell $7.8M, baucus $7.7M, cornyn $6.7M,
kyl $5.6M, grassley $5.4M, ensign $5.2M, conrad $5.1M, cantor $4.9M,
nelson $4.9M, burr $4.8M, boehner $4.4M, hatch $4.4M, lincoln $4.1M,
vitter $3.9M, carper $3.6M were paid by the Medical Industrial Complex to kill Health Care Reform. (Source: OpenSecrets.org, Aug. 09)
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SEMPER FI!
Having a government of for and by the people! Don't you think that would be worth it? I say Vote against the incumbent. Even if you think your rep is doing a good job. It was never ment to be a life long occupation. In the words of Washington, you should reluctantly serve and go back to what you did before.
As long as we allow these people to make life long careers from what was supposed to be doing your civic duty.
They have persuaded some people that you have to be there and have seniority to get anything done. Bullshit!
There was not supposed to be any pension, or health care, unless it is afforded to all it's citizens.
What we have now is nothing but a shell game, pass the buck and the blame.
If we did not let anyone stay more then one term we could soon straighten things up. All we need is about 650 average Americans to step up to the plate every two years and we are in business!
republicanism is a mental illness!
what a surprise. the special interests and lobbyists have been ready for this battle for years. "we the people" have been pushed out of the system (in my opinion) for many years. this has been a catch-22 for president obama/cabinet/congress. having the perfect strategy to beat out the numerous lobbyists and their money is difficult/nearly impossible at best.
Keith Olbermann preaches health care as a human being. Why doesn't Obama propose a crash course in public health and put tens of thousands of unemployed into the health care field? Free clinics are definitely a start but why not an 'army' of entry level medical and psychological volunteers/trainees supervised by trained people that still need a job to get by? The United States of America Public Medical Corp, modeled after that rural area medical outfit that announces free medical care and thousands line up to receive treatment for a 3 day visit.
that would be so easy to implement, work projects similar to the WPA of the 1930s, etc. What is missing is the political will and any sense of responsibility to the electorate.
If the lobbyists were actually winning there would be NO BILL AT ALL!
Yes, because they would just hate for the government to give them more money through this bill.
and they give us the finger. These assholes need to be called out and shamed publicly.
Dear Congress, Whose side are you on?
In a society governed passively by free markets and free elections, organized greed always defeats disorganized democracy.~Matt Taibbi
Merkins deserve what they get.
The insurers say rates will go up if reform passes but yet my rates go up every year.
I had two very passive people tell me this weekend, "it's time for a damn revolution!" It really took me by surprise.
These asshole lobbyist's and congresscritter's won't stop, until they get the guilotine haircut.
And what bullshit from the democratic leadership. The overwhelming majority of democrats want the strong public option, and have written some good bills. But the committee that "matters" is the one being run by a bluedog dipshit, with a history of being a corporate fascist sellout asshole - and they didn't know this could happen?
This little prick from nowhere, should have been told, you ram through the option we were elected to pass, or you will be stripped of this committee chair, and put onto the judging straw hats at the county fair committee. What a total bunch of bullshit!
If the democrats get masscred in the next election, they can thank this stupid little SOB!
Off with their heads.
The finance bill would impose a 40 percent excise tax on insurance plans that cost more than $8,000 a year for an individual or $21,000 for a family."
There is one aspect missing here, and that is retire health costs. The Baucus bill proposes charging older people 5 times as much as younger people, in recognition that older people cost more. In my company, the retire health trust (self-insured employer) is separate from the active employee health trust. The average age for the pre-medicare retirees is about 60. $8000 may be a Cadillac plan for a younger person, but not necessarily an older person. Anyway, I don't understand why this is going to be a flat tax of 40%, as opposed to being passed onto the retiree as imputed income that the retiree would pay at their incremental tax rate. I don't think there is a bracket for personal income taxes that reaches 40%.
Separately, I saw Obama on Letterman, and he was using the same talking points I heard Baucus saying, namely that we're going to reject the solutions used in other countries for a "unique American" way/solution. That solution is, of course, to preserve corporate profits and ensure that Americans continue to pay 50% more for health care than people in other countries. Like Obama says about the Baucus bill “it will slow the growth in health care costs...”.
Real health care reform would reduce our costs, and achieve parity with the costs in the other industrial countries.
If congress passes this suck-ass legislation, we'll get to see whose side Obama is really on.
Obama wins either way. If he can peddle an industry give away bill as health care reform he wins and so does the insurance industry. If he can't sell it he can kill it, and both he and the insurance industry still win because there's little chance his veto would be overturned.
That shows so clearly that democracy in America is a myth.
Thanks to the Senate, we don't have proportional representation. California, with 2 Senators, has a population equal to maybe the least populated 25 states, that would have 100 Senators? I don't know the exact breakdown, but it's something like that. And that's why we hear an awful lot about socialized medicine, but not an awful lot about socialized farming. The gang of 6 that is shaping the legislation represent 3% of the population?
Here they are. Look at the populations of these states.
Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa - Max Baucus, D-Mont.
Kent Conrad, D-N.D. - Mike Enzi, R-Wyo.
Olympia Snowe, R-Maine - Jeff Bingaman, D-N.M.
The Senate renders the Federal government somewhat undemocratic since the Senate can block legislation.
is the American version of the House of Lords, it was created by the founding fathers from that blueprint. They were afraid of the vote of the everyday citizen.
Massive pile of bullshit then he needs to be voted out period. He will go down as the 1st and worst black president in US history. This bill will not only make things worse it will greatly speed up the decay of our heathcare system.
And Please stop with the bullshit arguement of "this is only the start we will make it better later" sorry that hasn't work in a long time.
Obama doesn't have to veto the bill. All he has to do is send it back to the committee with a list of requests. However, if he just goes ahead and signs what is essentially the "Baucus" bill, I'll be just as upset as you are. The bill compels everybody to buy insurance, with the government (the tax-payers) subsidizing those who can't afford the premiums, while offering no meaningful public option that would undercut the insurance companies and create REAL competition.
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