Heh. Howard Dean Calls David Broder Inside the Beltway Gossip Columnist, Villager Head Explodes
This is an instant classic. Scarborough asks Howard Dean what he thinks of David Broder's attack on Harry Reid.
See, Broder wrote a column that was, of course, harshly critical of the healthcare bills. (Wars? Go faster! Health care! Wait a minute there, young 'uns!)
Harry Reid (D-Nev.) replied that the Senate shouldn't "focus on a man who has been retired for many years and writes a column once in a while."
Dean launched into a spirited defense of Reid and dismissed Broder, calling him "sanctimonious." He compared the classic "inside the Beltway columnist" to a gossip columnist.
PBS's Martin Savidge, clearly a Very Serious Person, was so upset, he was practically sputtering, and retorted that Broder "a very serious writer." Dean said the Beltway was incestuous and talking to the same so-called "experts" all the time was like writing a gossip column.
Savidge responded indignantly, "We call it good journalism." Yep, just like it was good journalism when Broder was riding Obama for not taking a running leap into the Afghan war.
Classic Villager think. Take a look, it's a textbook example.
Dave Broder is so out of it, his columns should really start with, "Back in MY day.....". Do guys like him never retire?
because once you have taken the first step into hell following them you won't recognize the rest.
Suzie, you said it better than Dean (I wish he had put it your way).
"Broder: Faster on wars, slower on healthcare."
That says it all.
* There are two types of Republicans: millionaires and suckers.
"Mugsy's Rap Sheet": Recording history for those who seek to rewrite it.
Tell me when in the last 9 years anyone in the msm has been anything other then a gossip columnist? Really after 911 all they did was repeat anything the bush cabal told drudge to be repeated over and over by everyone of them. They still do it everyday!
republicanism/conservatism is a mental illness that is killing America!
So once again the media chooses to focus on teh "controversy" instead of what Reid was actually saying.
As Pfc Pyle would say: "Surprise, surprise, surprise."
are worried about the cost of Gov't paid health care?
I DON'T THINK SO!
They're worried about getting sick or injured. These days, a mere broken leg can bankrupt a family. (My broken leg required 2 surgeries and cost about $85K. Really. We paid about $7K because we had a premier policy. Cost us $2,300 per month, so add $55K to that bill. Phew. We managed OK, but still!
I am NOT worried about Public Health insurance costing the government TOO MUCH. That's what TAXES are FOR.
Grrrrr. I hate Broder. I love Dean.
David Broder is SERIOUS BUSINESS
we all have seen how the Washington Post has caved into the right wing stenoghropher beltway corp.
if you disagreed with Bush the last 9 years, you were a terrorist traitor. If you lost the election in 11/08 you are an Murkin overrun by foreign tax'n spend liberal muslims from 'Kenya'.
that's Sputterin' Mort (Zuckerman) not Martin Savidge in that clip.
And boy oh boy does Mort seem angry that his cohorts, ilk, what have you might not be taken seriously on the matters that are so critical to their personal wealth, to hell with our health.
Mort's every bit the inside-the-beltway dumbass that Broder is. Have these people ever left Washington since getting their cushy jobs? Do they know *anybody* who's had to face surgery, an ER visit, or a rash of doctor's appointments without adequate medical coverage?
No, and they don't care. Just don't interrupt their martinis.
What a bunch of clowns. Mort Zuckerman is a douchebage. Why is this tabloid owner even on this show? I guess to repeat all the GOP talking points. Dean crushed all of those idiots. They only like the CBO when they agree with them. And Scarborough is such a turd. To say that he would think most of America agrees with Broader is bullshit! Joe keeps trying to convince the 69 million of us who voted for Obama that we're now all longing for the days when his party trashed this country for 8 long years. He's wrong on that too! It's starting to become clear why Morning Joe has been fininshing in dead last place. 4th behind fox, MSNBC, CNN & HLN.
They used to have david broder on PBS Washington Week in Review all the time, now not so much.
I was never impressed much by him, he tended to use parsed phrases to express what seemed to me to be conservative ideas, which in his mind must make him a moderate liberal; he reminded me of thomas friedman, who also generally leaves me unimpressed.
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
These people write propaganda for the conservative cabal that
is destroying America.
I'd bet that most of the young people who voted for Obama don't even know who Broder is. This piece of waxwork should have been put out to pasture years ago. This people are a lot like of the politicans who've stayed too long. (See Chuck Grassley) The best that can be said of many of these geezer writers and politicans is that their days are numbered.
"...This piece of waxwork should have been put out to pasture years ago..."
Maybe the waxwork man should have been stashed in Wax Museum. Surely D.c. is full of them?
wisdom is so slanted toward the power elite status quo that any position oppossed to that way of thinking appears "radical" to those within.
Broder is so embedded within that mindset that he really doesn't understand just how far from any kind of middle he really is. In this respect he differs very little from other "villagers" - including most of MSN, NYT, NPR, and on and on and on.
Obama was effectively elected from outside the beltway. All the "villager's" attempts at understanding him fall short because they (the "villagers") and everyone else live in two different worlds speaking two different languages.
Healthcare reform will never make sense to the "inside the beltway" crowd as long as they continue to listen to themselves and ignore everything and everyone else. That's why the only true reform that makes sense (single payer) never was seriously considered.
Look how they keep trying to "play" politics as the world (theirs and ours) burns up around us all. They still keep trying to "rule" the universe not realizing that if they don't change their ways or get out of our way there won't be anything left to rule.
We are irrelevent to the "villagers" - somehow we need to make them irrelevent to us for everyone's sake.
that pretty much does it;-)
"talking to the same so-called "experts" all the time"
And the same experts have been wrong on nearly everything for nearly forever.
With that kind of rich history and massive credibility all the
Very Serious PeopleRW media stay clear of any group think - no doubt"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
they would rather get their material from the others in their crowd than have to go out and get the facts.
He must have some kind of family ties that let him continue express some form of opinion. He should stay retired. It's foolish to repeat past mistakes. But, there's no fool like an old fool. He proves it well. A waste of time.
Grampa Simpson:
"We can't bust heads like we used to. But we have our ways. One trick is to tell stories that don't go anywhere. Like the time I caught the ferry to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for m'shoe. So I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt. Which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days, nickels had pictures of bumblebees on 'em. Gimme five bees for a quarter, you'd say. Now where was I... oh yeah. The important thing was that I had an onion tied to my belt, which was the style at the time. You couldn't get white onions, because of the war. The only thing you could get was those big yellow ones..."
:)
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
John Kerry was a mistake.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
And good on Howard, but I wish he'd gone for the jugular and pointed out the Broder never says who these "experts" are, since they were all health insurance industry people. That would have stopped even Mort the Dort from spluttering his factoids.
Not picking on Senator John Kerry but . . .
I always have thought he was like a plain-wrap version of a Kennedy.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
tamed by now, that no one is afraid to give him a personal access, because he'll be a good boy, and print just what they tell him to print. Once he does that, the "powers that be" keep going back to him, since he's proved himself to be harmless. That's how to get access -- and to think, some call that "good journalism." Sickening.
Journalism is in such a sorry state.. they feel compelled to defend one another. Screw the facts or actually reporting them.
One day when they have all lost their jobs and power to infuence (newspapers are dying everywhere), then maybe they'll see the light!
i almost always hear that people are concerned about the cost of reform. i'm also concerned about the cost of health care insurance reform but I'm just as concerned about the cost of doing NOthing. you look at some of the projected health info. that has come out in the popular press: 1) if current trends continue up to 43% of Americans could become obese at a cost of $344 billion dollars by 2018 2) because of the obesity epidemic we can expect a growing demographic of Type II diabetes. PAY now or pay later something has to be done.
... that hagiography of Broder that Politico masked as news that Mika masked as a simple "response" to Reid. Talk about slanted framing ....
As Bill O'Reilly proved, if it's in writing on the screen then it's "factual."
Colbert must really get under their skin.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
"Colbert must really get under their skin."
Or they might like the free publicity enough to actually feed Colbert and Stewart a few items on a platter.
Plus, they would have to actually care about what is true to let the truth get under their skin.
My guess is either way - they are laughing too when they watch Colbert and Stewart albeit an evil contortion of levity.
"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that! " ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )
... that O'Reilly, Scarborough, & Ilk have buttons that are fairly easily pushed - especially O'Reilly. But they also know they are pretty much helpless outside their home field.
Just ask Letterman.
Corruption favors the wealthy.
Funny how the "moderate" Blue Dogs and the "moderate" types like Broder all echo right-wing talking points. They just say the same old crap in polite language, and hope
to gull the fools into an inept world view. Who's the real moderate? Obama.
Now that they don't have to compete with the Wash Times any longer -- it seems to be going down the tubes -- could we have a return to sweet sense.
Ron Brownstein of the National Journal is actually a moderate, and he says the costs are very controlled in the Senate bill. And in the second ten years, the savings will be in the order of $500 billion. But Davy is so heavily invested in his Republican talking points that he's pained when the Republican stock goes down.
Just read this morning that the number-two train wreck among state government is the Republican-led-forever Arizona. What, giving real estate developers the keys to the treasury while you cut taxes means you end up with a huge (proportionally equal to California's) deficit ISN'T the way to the promised land? There's another "moderate" bullshit argument gone down for the count.
We're in a phase now where mediocrity reaffirms and defends mediocrity, particularly in D.C. The best journalism going now tends to be here online among the younger writers/analysts/reporters and some some of the newer writers in places like the Times. WaPo operates at, well, the next level below mediocrity with very few exceptions. The good ones seem to move on pretty fast from the Post!
Good journalism now? Available via a series of mouse clicks, not on the newsstand or in that soggy thing sitting on your front steps.
Okay, okay! And I'm crazy about Howard Dean!
That idiot got his start in the Cleveland OH area on a local newschannel at the time.
He showed up at the scene of an oil tank fire where I was a firefighter on duty with my crew. We were wrapping up when lil' Marty walked up to me and another firefighter and demanded, "Where's your chief?"
I said that I didn't know.
He said,"You don't know where your chief is!?!"
My buddy said, "It wasn't our turn to watch him."
Lil Marty sputtered as we laughed at him and said, "Well, go find him!"
No "please" or "thanks" or anything; my buddy and I had been battling the blaze for hours and looked like hell - and this idiot thinks he's giving orders to the fire dept...
We were tired and silly and we just laughed our asses off at him and my last memory of Lil' Marty is of him standing in the twilight sputtering,"I'll tell your chief about you two!"
Later on at the debrief the chief said, "I understand that a couple of you upset a "Very Important Person..."
and everybody laughed their asses off and went across the street for a beer.
He said retired for a number of years. What he meant to say was retarded for a number of years.
i had to laugh when i saw the headline above of villager heads exploding over dr. dean's comments about healthcare "journalism". all i could think about was my weasel of a senator , holy joe lieberman, and his expected up and coming exploding head over dean's remarks, and and an old firesign theatre quote: "...and there's hamburger all over the highway in mystic, connecticut".
Mort and Joe sat by while Bush fought two wars, off the books, and said nothing.
Typical HACK outing, Washington style. Broder, hence forth, will no longer benefit from the unwatchful eye of the trusting American Public. Broder is no longer a nebulous somewhat moderate journalist. Senator Reid has catapulted Broder into a celebrity status. Dean reinforced it with his commentary being focused, controlled and educated. This left Mort Z. (to turned into a Queen B.)., Joe and his entourage, and undoubtedly Broder himself, having conniptions. Broder's own comments and columns have exposed him publicly for his journalistic deciet masquerading as a moderate. American opinion understands the general consensus that Broder has been officially branded a lock step talking point GOP hack. I think that "nerve" protests too much.
David Broder is a loathsome, right wing stooge. He's the Judith Miller of semi-retired Washington gossip columnists.
Howard Dean should stay away from right wing TV, where Republican ideologues are "moderates," and moderates are "radical left wingers."
Well, you'd see the wheel still spins, but the hamster died years ago.
Everything Dean said about that old fart was true. Broder thinks he's the creme de la creme but in truth he's just the whey of the whey. Media Matters and The Daily Howler have documented just how much of a right wing hack Broder is. The Broder who demanded the resignation of Clinton over a blow job is the same one who endlessly kissed George W Bush's ass for 8 years. When the Republicans werein power, Broder perpetually praised them. BUT when the Democrats come to power Broder demands a "bipartisan" consensus. In Broder's pea-brained mind, "bipartisanship" means, do what the Republicans want. There really is no difference between the brain farts that Broder publishes in the Whoreshington Post and the asskissing poetry to the Communist Party that Yevetshenko penned in Pravda. There is NO Republican ass Broder won't kiss.
Gee...a week ago, I call David Broder a tired old Beltway hack who should permanently retire....and nothing.
Dean does it now...it's news!
Go figure.
"Anyone that makes less than $150K in this country, has no business voting Republican."
Zuckerman owns US News & World Report. He used to own Atlantic Monthly and then decided to ruin US News.
Did I hear correctly? Did Mika say "pissing match"? Did morning shows suddenly loosen standards or something?
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