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And the Democrats are doing what, exactly, about this? Do the Republicans want the economy to get worse, hoping it means they'll sweep the mid-terms? (As if we needed any further proof of their sociopathic mindset.)

While this piece is about California, it will apply to other states as well:

Few, if any, unemployed people will be able to get the full 20-week extension in jobless benefits because Congress delayed so long and failed to change a sunset provision, says a California Employment Development Department official.

As a result, most Californians — an estimated 285,000 long-term unemployed — will be able to qualify for only an additional 14 weeks of benefits, says Loree Levy, an EDD spokeswoman.

The legislation, which was approved by the House today, provides 14 weeks of additional benefits to all states. Those states with a jobless rate over 8.5% — California's is 12.2% — get up to 20 more weeks.

But instead of simply tacking on the additional weeks in one new extension, the bill sets up a Byzantine plan that adds two new extensions to the two previous ones before the last extension, referred to as FedEd, kicks in.

Congress previously extended FedEd from 13 weeks to 20 weeks, but included a sunset provision for the end of the year. If Congress doesn't change that provision, FedEd will revert to 13 weeks on Jan. 1.

So even if a person could start collecting on the latest extension today, the calendar will run out before that person can get all 20 weeks of benefits. As currently written, they will get one additional week for the second extension and, because their unemployment will carry into next year, 13 weeks of FedEd, for a maximum of 14 weeks.

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Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

Enact a WPA 2.0.


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

That's the best answer. I'd rather be working for the money than sitting at home. Who knows you might even learn something useful.

We'd all rather be working but, the jobs arent'there. There are so many ignorant people out there who don't have a clue. Let me school you!

We've already worked for that money. I was laid off from my job at Merrill Lynch last year. The unemployment I receive is NO WHERE NEAR the money I was making. I'm getting the maximum amount which doesn't say much. The unemployment insurance that was taken out of my paychecks each week is where my unemployment insurance came from. To say that we're just sitting home is also to ignore the fact that there are now 6 applicants to every available job. Got that? It would be very helpful if the people who know nothing about unemployment would educate themselves! You can't get unemployment unless you've had a job. It's not welfare. It's the insurance they've taken out of your salary. Even if you could find a job that pays less, do you think that your landlord and bill collectors will give a damn that you can't pay your bills because unemployment pays you back less then you made?

are entitled to high paying jobs? It's always been produce or die in this country with the exception of the temporary Clinton Boom.

ysbaddaden's picture
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Now to be fair Hillary did tell Clenis not to eat those beans.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Evet's picture

Roaring 90's . . Wow man . . .

ysbaddaden's picture
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They couldn't afford the meat?

You can't beat the meat.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ysbaddaden's picture
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Maybe that last line should be the Texas Cattlemen Association's new slogan.

I mean, how many decades can you use, "Beef, it's what for dinner?"


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Does your state have a law that requires employees to contribute to unemployment?

Granted, I have not completed a payroll since 2007, but I have done them in three different states, and in each unemployment was paid by the employer. In Florida, the payments by employers are not collected unless and until a former employee files a claim. Then the employer is charged a capped percentage of the total benefit amount.

Regarding Federal payments, the Intuit payroll site says:

Keep in mind that the employee federal tax you (employer) pay includes both employee tax withholding along with employer taxes as your contribution to Social Security, Medicare, and unemployment insurance. New employers are often surprised that they contribute an employer tax that matches the employee tax for Social Security and Medicare.


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Handypants's picture

Always been the same, even when they were in power:

Delay
Deny
Distract
Deceive

This time the delay is costing them GOP votes. Even republicants are in the unemployment lines.


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

Fuck all, pretty much.

It's their standard response...

Donaldd's picture

Unemployment figures were at or near 8% and Bush refused to extend those benefits. Within a few months his Unemployment rate dropped to near 5% and gave Bush a lot of propaganda.

Republicans in congress who are getting a lot of play from High Unemployment numbers are willing to remove people from Unemployment rolls?

Some people will "cut off their noses to spite their faces."


Donaldd

Handypants's picture

"Some people will "cut off their noses to spite their faces.""

Not everybody can be Michael Jackson . . .

(whoop's too mean - sorry)


"I know that there are people who do not love their fellow
man, and I hate people like that!
" ~ Tom Lehrer (1928 - )

ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ysbaddaden's picture
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Diabolus est Deus Inversus

"Just another reason to cut off an ear."

Well said, Einsturzende.


"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper

This only applies to those born on odd days of even months of every leap year. And their applications for extensions should be sent via the DMV on a full moon after 7 PM and before 9 PM of said full moon, and they must document the last ten years of full time employment.

I'm retiring in Nicaragua. This place is FUBAR.


"Someday somebody related to some of these sufferers, these victims, these collaterally damaged souls, may try to kill you. And I have to tell you, I think you’ll have it coming." - Christopher Cooper

Evet's picture

if people are being paid to do or create nothing?

Just wondering

smchris's picture

But there are two ways to look at that if you don't explain where you're coming from:

We could turn the U.S. into South Africa. If somebody is desperate enough to carjack you at a stop sign and blow half your face off, your medical bills will make a _great_ contribution to the GDP. In that case, we could eliminate unemployment completely and boost the economy as much as a good hurricane. [Which is say that unemployment at least keeps people from rioting even if it _isn't_ good for the economy.]

But if you mean WPA 2.0 would be better because we would get people occupied _doing_ something and contributing to the nation's infrastructure, you've got that right and it would be a hell of a lot smarter than this dithering we see. It's really depressing that we see the D.C. beltway still so infused with libertarian Reaganomics that they would rather make some half-assed gesture at giving money away (bread and circuses?) instead of doing something "socialist" like initiate constructive programs to rebuild the country's infrastructure. This country has been a madhouse since Reagan and it's just a wonder when anybody in power will get _serious_ again. The games and illusions are going to have to hit up against a hard wall of reality sooner or later, aren't they?

ysbaddaden's picture
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Actually, I think due to my father having worked in the Texas Unemployment office for years, and my own experience, the solution lays not so much on increased unemployment compensation, but in something like a renewed job corp.

The only problem is some of us aren't suited for outdoor work, like me, and we wouldn't want employers to get so over-dependent on the job corp, like they have temporary services, to stiff-arm those looking for full-time work. Additionally, one can't do so much work for the corp that they cannot look for more permanent work, just enough to maintain their dignity.

There's something sociologists call the Victimization Cycle, and when I studied the subject, it was mostly in texts describing disasters like floods and mine cave-ins, although we discussed the Columbine shooting, and since then there has been Katrina. These are all quite dramatic and traumatic events, but couldn't one count what is in effect an economic disaster?

I'm thinking I might be unemployed soon.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

It's time for investment in the United States. Corporations are being put on notice immediately that the cheap labor outsourcing free ride is over.

But that's not going happen.

When it gets to the point to where Obama-Dem's are putting together a study group during December just to try to see if it's possible to stop the job loss avalanche, it's not a very good omen.

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That will mean higher costs for items that would off-set the gain in employment and dollars, ending up pretty much at the status quo, unless we can limit CEO's compensations. But how much is too much, and how little is too little?

Ultimately, the CEO's themselves might agree to relatively smaller compensations amidst cries of socialism, if they get tax cuts. But then those tax cuts they receive will either be off-set to the smaller home-owner facing increased taxation, or adding it to the deficit, where as it is we're continually pulling money out of circulation every time the government has to make an interest payment, and not even hit the principal.

And if China and Saudi Arabia pull their support, our entire economy might collapse. Or we'll have to accept help from the World Bank, and make even more draconian changes to our existing economic structure.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Evet's picture

Unfortunately the top 1% who got us into this mess are certifiable psychopaths-sociopaths.

ysbaddaden's picture
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Also expect soon to hear cries of the American Worker is so disloyal to the companies (always looking for the better deal and job-hopping), along with cries

That Americans are too materialistic from churches.

But they won't explicitly blame the corporations and CEO's who are so generous with donations.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

Can O Whoopass's picture

that's what those Seattle riots were about 5-6 years ago. The New World Order - the Bush's got their's, where's yours???

miss_kitty's picture

November, 1999. Clinton time. 'Carnival Against Capital' 'N30 Global Day of Action' was what it was, a peaceful protest against the WTO meeting in Seattle. Some halfwits from Eugene, OR calling themselves 'anarchists' organised to turn it into riots, however.

Alice X - Chomsky Nader's picture

I am general very suspicious that anytime so called 'anarchists' appear that they are government infiltrators.

The WTO is the worst thing to ever come along.


statusquObama, change you can only pretend in

miss_kitty's picture

who organise. I mean, these guys had a leader, some old geezer, who stayed behind. Oh the irony! :D

ysbaddaden's picture
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Reg?

He couldn't participate, because he has a bad back.

Solidarity, brother...I mean sibling...


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

ysbaddaden's picture
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Oh yeah, and expect it said by corporations that taxes and regulations are increasing the cost of items and hurting job growth

And from republican politicians that the reason we're so poor is because we're paying too much in taxes to pay for a welfare state.

Even in Texas politics, where I think we jumped from 47th to 45th lowest state in terms of social spending. But incumbents will point to all the employers moving here.


Diabolus est Deus Inversus

The only thing the Modern GOP cares about is power -- their own. I'm not sure there is anything they won't do to try to enhance their chances for a favorable outcome on election day 2010.

Sadly, the American people are ill-prepared to understand the motivation behind Republican actions, so it's entirely possible that we'll watch the GOP do its best to wreck the economy and the majority on election day will reward them with big gains, an outcome so perverse it boggles the mind

Over the past decade it's become increasingly obvious that this country can't fix what ails it without more honest politicians, better informed citizens, and independent, responsible media. The media are a key factor in our ability to hold politicians accountable (by keeping them honest), and ensuring that voters are well- and accurately informed. There no longer appears to be much, if any, hope for our media -- their future looks worse, not better -- which means there is probably no hope for the country. I believe, when the epitaph for this country is written, the American media, led by their chief role model, Rupert Murdoch, will receive and deserve a huge portion of the blame for our demise.

thelonegunman's picture

when will the sheeple wake up and see that they're all slaves to the corporatists?

Samson-'s picture

the best way to stimulate an economy is through unemployment extensions, job creation programs, and food stamps for those that need it.

the worst way is to cut taxes on the most affluent (not to mention capital gains tax cuts, corporate tax havens, etc.)

guess which the GOP supports.

Techn0girl's picture

There will be NO unemployment extensions of any kind what so ever for anyone anywhere in the United States. None. If you are already receiving a 13 or 20 week extension then you will have that until it ends but afterwords - nothing.

According to a Reuters article 7,000 lose their unemployment benefits each day (currently)

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/7000-unemployed...

that's close to a quarter a million each month - with NO lifeline

Those figures can't be getting any better considering the rising unemployment figures.

So Congress will be forced to extend the current Dec 28 cut off date to somewhere into 2010. The only question is when will they do it? Currently 1.3 MILLION will lose all benefits by Jan 1 (according to that article above). Every month past that a quarter million more will go without any benefits what so ever.

How long will Congress take and how long will the Republicans obstruct it this time? Next year IS an election year - should be interesting.

Susie Madrak's picture

This extension was already passed.


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Tax the Rich's picture

......And the ignorant morons in this country will vote the psychotic republican's back into power, as a reward for making their lives increasingly more miserable and hopeless?

U.S.A!, U.S.A!, U.S.A!........,

You can't make this shit up.


If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.

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