Why Do Right Wing Pundits Accuse Democrats of 'Raping' Americans?
Media Matters points out how conservative commentators such as Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, and Michael Savage like to use rape metaphors when discussing progressives or progressive policies.
Right-wing media are very quick to claim progressives are "raping" Americans:
Beck: "People in New York, you're being raped by your government -- raped." On his November 19 radio show, Beck stated:
BECK: When the people lead, the leaders will follow. And we're building life boats, because, right now, you know it to be true -- and I'm hearing it in New York. People in New York, you're being raped by your government -- raped. California, how are you doing it, man? They just took an extra 10 percent withholdings from you, as a forced noninterest loan. Get the hell off my land. My gosh, how are you doing it?
Well, I'm seeing it in New York. People are just starting to see now what has been done to them in the last six months here in New York. And they're starting to look at it and say, "Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. What the hell -- look at how all of this is adding up?" Well, that's what's going to happen as a collective in this country. I don't how long it's gonna take. It may take three months, six months, a year -- I can't imagine.
Beck: "We're the young girl saying 'No, no, help me,' and the government is Roman Polanski." Discussing health care reform on the November 16 edition of his Fox News program, Beck stated:
BECK: America has spoken clearly, consistently. We don't want this. And for the first time in history, we don't think it's the government's place to give it to us. ... We are -- excuse this analogy, but I feel like it's true -- we're the young girl saying "No, no, help me," and the government is Roman Polanski. In the end, I think we're all going to be cowering in France.
Beck: Health care reform is "good old socialism ... raping the pocketbooks of the rich to give to the poor." On his July 21 Fox News program, Beck stated:
BECK: President Obama has his massive $1.5 trillion health care plan. It's hogging up the news cycle. The Republicans and, you know, a lot of people are starting to say, "Isn't this socialist, here? I mea, this is pretty crazy." The answer to me on that one is really easy: Yep, it's good old socialism -- you know, pretty much raping the pocketbooks of the rich to give to the poor. I think that's socialism.
Limbaugh: Obama ordered his "pay czar" to "rape" bailed out executives. On his October 22 broadcast, talking about Kenneth Feinberg, who was appointed to oversee executive compensation at financial firms that were still holding funds authorized under the Troubled Asset Relief Program, Limbaugh stated:
LIMBAUGH: I think everything about this story, this "pay czar," is blockbuster. It is -- I mean, it's late-night comedy gold. Everything about the story is a lie. ... Every detail about this story has to be a lie. I refuse to believe that Obama didn't know what Feinberg was doing. In fact, the truth probably is Feinberg's following orders. Feinberg is following orders and I guaran-damn-tee you Obama said: "You get up there and you rape 'em. And you make 'em poor. And you make 'em pay. And you let 'em know. Just don't tell 'em that I knew anything about it."
Limbaugh: "Get ready to get gang-raped again, folks." Discussing health care reform on his June 29 broadcast, Limbaugh stated:
LIMBAUGH: Well, isn't this good? Get ready to get gang-raped again, folks. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she will not give the public a week to review the final text of a health care reform bill before it's voted on later this year. And Harry Reid has also declined to commit to giving the public a week to read and consider the final health care bill, despite Obama promising that all legislation would be up for five days on one of his stupid websites where everybody could read it.
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toothpaste, cheese doodles, beer, pickups, etc, . . all the great
products of western civilization.
Because they are all in the closet. After all, they can't come out because the fundie's would abandon them.
That has to be it. Especially Rush. His obsession is way over the top. And he complains how women hate him. I think that Rush hates women.
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haven't you heard? Loves sex with little boys, apparently...
BIG difference...
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...he's just that conservative.
it's something they themselves will never, ever experience. It's very easy to throw words like "rape" around when you don't have the vaguest idea what you're talking about.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
When actual rape happens, Republicans find every excuse in the world to blame the raped.
...nuf sed!
the better part of 3 decades, I don't think it is a fantasy... but just plain projection on their part.
It is as the old maxim goes: a thief thinks everyone around them are also thieves.
It's projection on the part of Right Wing Talking Heads. They look at their wealth acquission as 'raping the system', so anything that would remove monies from them is 'raping them'.
-when a lot of other "scary" words don't bother people as much.
Feminism has helped bring understanding of the actuality of rape -the fear, humiliation and agony of the victim, and the hate & rage-based motives of perpetrator- to the public. If no longer taboo, it is still a highly charged word- probably more than before.
Since it is feminists and liberals who have empowered victims of rape, and demanded prosecutions of the crime, One can imagine how gleefully Conservative Thugs, the real oppressors and pro-rape types like Limbaugh, love to use the word in their constant claims of victimhood.
Please...you're gonna give us images in our heads of Limbaugh leaning over and spreading his ass cheeks.
Let's change the topic.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
It's because all the ugly and lard-ass Reslugs have no problem raping anything.
Look at bush for example!
Why is there an animated pop up ad about fixing Plumber's butt in this thread about Beck and Limbaugh? Hilarious! Cracks me up!
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
don't say crack.
one crack problem in America.
Plumbers, with their pipe dope, invented crack, not the CIA.
me-oww!
they brought it indoors. And it led to the obsolence of that fashionable large flap on the back of men's trousers and overalls.
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
Oh! the humanity!
me-oww!
my poor animated crack ridden plumber has now been snatched away and replaced by a one question WalMart shopping survey.
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
the powerless - demonstrates where they're coming from
Who to blame for the treasonous Becky scoring the best gig ever??
MurDICK and Ailes!!
Beck is an idiot but these two guys give him the platform and at this point I don't even blame Beck. Faux retarded lemmings want hatred of Obama and he gives it to them. Can't blame Beck anymore . .
Rush in the Domincan Republic and Beck with the 9 y/o he raped and killed. They don't deny it.
Why have they not provided evidence that they didn't do it!!
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
It just becomes more obvious every day. If they really were innocent, they'd deny the allegations.
There's always free cheddar in the mousetrap, baby. - Tom Waits
Why? Because these homunculus like to project their own bad habits on others, thats why.
Really they like to use incindiary language to better rile up and anger their ignorant and sycophantic followers.
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
The same way the the most homophobic people secretly fear that they themselves might be gay.
by the hillbillies from Deliverance
wish for something like that to happen, so they wouldn't have to take the initiative themselves.
...or as the GOP calls them "the base." As Sarah Palin calls them "real Americans."
Great, now I got Limbaugh stuck in my head being used in the Ned Beatty role.......except I'm certain fat boy can really squeal like a piggy.
---AUGH! WHAT HAVE I DONE!----
When angry, count four, when very angry, swear.
-Mark Twain-
they would be fired, escorted out of the building by security and permanently blackballed from the business.
sexual fear = need to dominate and not be dominated.
These are the voices of the brainless twits that have been screwing over the minds of the weak and angry right wing in this country.
Is it any surprise that "rape" is their primary verb?
Who (in their right mind) would voluntarily have sex with these slugs? They're so keenly aware of it that "rape" is always on the tip of their tongues.
It's standard operating procedure to accuse your opponent of precisely the thing you yourself have done (ex. C Street and family values).
The Republican's raped America the last eight years so they are very familiar with this type of behavior.
The sad thing is that some of the right wings points are actually valid.
a. Health Care bill is mostly giveaways to corporations
b. Obama administration has bailed out Wall Street by stealing from Main Street
The rights only failing is not looking in the mirror enough.
Are you not quite getting the whole point of this article?
The entire point of this discussion is that using the word "rape" as a metaphor in political or other non-sexual areas of discussion is inappropriate by ANYONE.
Seriously, please don't do this. Even this blog, which I love, had on it one day an animated graphic of an elephant raping a donkey. Nasty, sophomoric, and banal. Not to mention alienating. Particularly ironic, too, given that a left-leaning viewpoint is supposed to be sensitive to these issues.
LOL
this may be one of those "Cornell" incidents waiting to happen.
Seriously. No snark. No criticism. Friendly warning.
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
you'd remember I can only channel his changiness only on days that begin with Wed or Sun.
Chanelling Wed. & Sun. Kinda like Baptist services.
Non-denial 24/7. Should known it was you all along, fan that I am. Why'd ya let me get strung out so lonesome on that last thread. Weighed in kinda late didn't ya?
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
... misinterpreted the comment. It is not joining in the mosh-pit in indiscriminate use of the term, but pointing out the ones ladling out the accusation of 'rape' are, in fact, the rapists.
No, I didn't.
Perverse, deceitful, racist, sexist, homophobic, patronizing, arrogant, demeaning, vile, disgusting, hatemongers...*
Everyone of them...
(*I could go on, but I'm making myself queasy just contemplating their evilness...)
I feel it does disservice to the verb "rape" to use it in any other context than describing sexual violence. It dilutes the ominous portent of the word. These clowns who so thoughtlessly bandy it about are just shameful.
... of the word 'rape' is closely linked to 'rapine,' which is the more general act of plundering wealth and material goods. The connotation/reference to sexual assault is now more generally accepted, since groups known for pillaging and ransacking simply put away their swords and took up accountancy.
I live and work in New York City and this fool certainly doesn't speak for me!!
Come on, Beck, Rush, Savage? Just look at them. Three guys who have never given a woman(or man) a real orgasm.
The female orgasm is a myth, and you know it!
not quite as mythical as "conservative values".
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:)
Because they are projecting.
It's what they know.
They may not be rapists in the physical sense, but I believe they probably have a psychology akin to rapists.
They are relating to it in a way with which they feel totally at ease.
me-oww!
head cases. The more they blame stuff on other people, the more we get a front row seat about how demented and degenerate these a**holes really are. Some of the stuff they come up with is so depraved that only a mind suffering a severe case of sociopathic psychosis could come up with it.
too ugly to visualize.
Because they live in their own little fantasy worlds of prurient, immature notions. Freud had many observations relating to the id (libido) and the acting out of sexual needs and desires in relation to the underdeveloped ego.
These men are immature, deviant personalities. They equate 'rape' with power and violence toward anyone they deem unworthy - women, little children, persons of other races, religions or political leanings.
It is their way of expressing their inner rage - which is really their unconscious rage at themselves. Talking about rape, which in their minds equals dominance and control, makes them feel all powerful and assuages their real feelings of inadequacy.
They are all emotionally ill and none of them should have access to the public airwaves.
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
Nicely put.
Additionally, 'rape' is a loaded term. It conjures a specific emotional cocktail, where we might be inured to 'murder' or other terms like 'ass-kicking' when 'real Americans' watch WWF and MMA matches for entertainment.
has degraded to. How much lower can the standards get?
Think I'll head to the garage and invent something.
Later
...like the rape analogy is because they themselves don't really consider rape to be all that bad.
So many of them have shown a tendency to be mysoginistic and therefore trivializing one of the most traumatic experiences a woman could possibly endure doesn't seem like a big deal.
"Better." It's what we should ask of ourselves and of our leaders.
..Its all for shock value; its all to delegitimize the African-American President. Its more fear-mongering, its stupid and its immature but considering the source, what else should we expect?
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
It clearly because in their delusion filled world, because of their personal financial capabilities which their delusion seems to feed (notice the self-fulfilling prophecy thing here) the drugs they can get there hands on keep getting better and better..This makes their delusion more and more real (to them) and it just keeps getting stranger and stranger - for us.
When fantasy finally engulfs them completely, they'll just vaporize (A Poof moment !) into thin air and we'll go on our merry way. Sure is fun watching them thrash around while their trip gets more intense....
Conservatives tend to be sexually repressed. And the more repressed you are sexually the more perverted references to sex you are likely see bubble up to the surface in their arguments.
Also, sexual repression tends to go hand in hand with authoritarian personalities.
It's all hopelssly entangled however in the ineffably and inextricably intertwined quagmires of human mental emotional and psychologcal states frantically trying to reconcile themselves with more basic [and base] instinctual reactions to the world around us.
and a bit of projection as well. After all, thirty Rapepublican senators voted to protect the rapists of Halliburton/KBR.
..to shun the republican'ts, that puts the icing on the cake.
Mickey: "It was an epiphany. Do you know what an epipany is?"
Keoni: "NOT NOW MICKEY!"
...that they are trying to take away the meaning of the word. Listening to that video, hearing it repeated so often, it briefly lost meaning to me. The more telling thing is what they are trying to link to the vile action; so-called "re-distribution of wealth".
The American Dream dies in the pocketbooks of the rich...
when U.S. Corporations decided 1.9 billion Chinese slaves with a an average per capita income of $325 back in 92 would feel rich with a per capita income of $3,200 per year 15 years later.
their heads thinking where's our jobs?
What better way to escape blame for this country's repeated politically induced catastrophes than to project your individual and political party's guilt upon your enemies. Then, with a unified voice of your partners-in-crime, keep repeating the same message in the echo chamber of the Corporatist MSM. The bigger the lie, repeated often enough, eventually falls under the meme of "common knowledge" -- totally unnecessary and unwarranted to challenge with facts. Hey, the National Socialists of Nazi Germany, under the tutelage of master propagandist Goebbels, proved beyond any doubt that this brainwashing technique works.
Doubt my assertion? Look no further than the well-developed advertising of Madison Avenue. The bulk of both political parties are no more than two different trademark labels from the same vendor -- the Corporatist State. Private profit and socialized risk -- that's fascism, not communism. Labels like liberal, or liberal progressive, or socialist, or communist -- these are all discounted and depreciated under fascism, just like "social safety net" and "trade unions" and "labor unions".
Up is down, black is white, wrong is right, war is peace, patriotism is capitulation, terrorism is dissent, welfare is evil (unless it's corporate largesse), torture is compassionate conservatism, wholesale slaughter of civilians is "collateral damage", and budget deficits don't matter (if it's to feed the M.I.C.). Welcome to 1984 -- we are all National Socialists now -- the Corporatist State is alive and well, and in control.
When the eventual and inevitable blowback to the USA's democratic devolution into fascistic imperialism does arrive, one can only hope that it is personified more by the example of Benito Mussolini, and less by the current and highly unsatisfactory legal status of the Bush/Cheney Crime Family.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
-- John F. Kennedy
it is all about shock.
like emotional junkies, those that tune in to rush and beck NEED to be shocked.
they need that emotional nipple tweak. and, the thing about anything shocking is that you have to continually up the shock-ante. and when claiming that the dems want to "rape ________" (fill in blank w/whatever) becomes less shocking they will need to move on to something even more shocking.
i bet that the new shock line wil be revolve around "skull fucking"
I think skull-fucking will be the final tribute to Ronald Reagan that one of the right-trash talking heads will attempt. They can never do enough dumb shit in the name of that bad actor.
at some point to decorate the clubhouse at Yale with.
what Georgie W and his bud did inside the Skull & Bones place at Yale... no?
"Egotism is the anesthetic that dulls the pain of Stupidity" - Frank Leahy
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George H W Bush has never provided proof that Skull & Bones does not have the skull of Geronimo, and that they don't have sex with it on a regular basis.
Vote GOP and move forward to the 18th Century.
It's just part of the Right's constant demonization and dehumanization of anyone not in their cult / in-group / tribe.
Remember, global warming is a hoax designed to turn America into a socialist nightmare, the Homosexual Agenda is designed to destroy the basic structure of American society, socialized medicine will turn America into Soviet Russia, people who allow abortion will allow any atrocity, public education is unacceptable liberal indoctrination, ACORN will take away all your rights, stimulus spending will bankrupt the nation, Obama's lax efforts in TWOT will result in America being destroyed by fire-breathing Al Qaeda sleeper cells, and the swine flu epidemic is merely a pretext for the national prison complex unveiling and Muslim uprising.
There isn't a single issue that Republican politicians and/or mouthpieces *haven't* turned into a piss-your-pants, this-is-a-moral-issue-and-what-a-coincidence-we're-on-the-righteous-godly-side-of-it frothfest, no matter how dishonest their assertions or illogical their conclusions or how much their attacks are based entirely on baselessly impugning the character of their opponents.
In response, Democratic politicians generally roll over, fall asleep or apologize without knowing what they're apologizing for. Maybe if Democrats made actual moral issues into moral issues in their rhetoric, instead of constantly ceding the moral high ground to Republicans on issues where the Republicans *don't* even have the moral high ground, or where the topic doesn't even have any ethical consequences... if Democrats didn't just let Republicans turn *every* issue into "The Democrats want to take away your freedoms and DESTROY AMERICA!!!", then maybe people's opinions would track reality a little better...
freedom to be an idiot.
It could be they have deep psychological issues when it comes to power (which is what rape is all about). Or if you want a cruder explanation, they fantasize about being bent over the desk by a Jeff Gannon lookalike. Maybe a little of both.
They are demonizing Obama and the Democrats. The GOPers are saying the Big Black man is raping you all with the help of the gay liberals. simple image tricks work with a lot of Americans. Notice when Rep, Grayson hit them back with their own tactic how afraid the GOPers became. They know it works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3BRI7WFYVU
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
A bit o'that all n*****s are over-sexed?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wkd1AceFng&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGX-dXAxZds&fe...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJkHykGRXrw
Diabolus est Deus Inversus
This weird excitement is much more widespread. I've long thought the Bush-era nightmares - Abu Ghraib, Guantanamo, acts of extraordinary rendition - involving dogs, feces, extreme and calculated sadism, prisoners blind and naked hung from the ceiling, waterboarded, bottles shoved up rectums, electrocuted, ETC - signaled just turned on, how AROUSED Bush / Cheney / Rumsfeld were by torture. It was their pornography and they absolutely gorged on it. They were excited by it. The power, the humiliation, the violence. Cheney in particular - pink , sweaty, secretive, defending the most peculiar and twisted techniques. In the name of patriotism and national security.
because the right "raped" america during the BUSH yrs. they're deflecting the BLAME and smearing it onto the dems/obama. alan Greenspan said this in his book......."'the republican congress lost their way". this is all to maintain the two party/dualism.
...fantasies. For these putrefied souls, that fantasy is to be forcibly (somewhat) anally raped by a street gang of dark-skinned, muscular, bad boys. Unfortunately it is an unrequited fantasy as no self respecting gang banger would touch these pasty white @sses with a ten foot pole.
the GOP still is silent on KBR getting away fairly unscathed in their immoral reaction to Tracy Barker's rape by their employees...
when it is REAL rape, the rightwing blames the victims.
My wife was just saying last night how she wished that Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, et al would get raped up the butt until they were dead.
all it takes is all of us
America On Line says we are going too far.....
http://insidetv.aol.com/2009/11/17/is-it-time-to-stop-picking-on-glenn-beck/?icid=main|main|dl2|link3|http%3A%2F%2Finsidetv.aol.com%2F2009%2F11%2F17%2Fis-it-time-to-stop-picking-on-glenn-beck%2F
"That's fu*#ing retarded."
Big City Mayor
the r word so casually, when many, many actual survivors of rape cannot say the r word with feeling sick while doing so, or are suffering terribly because they cannot bring themselves to even say the word and tell someone what happened.
That's of course me wearing my "survivor hat" if you will, when I write that.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
insightful about this subject, btw. It's The Wimp Factor by Stephen Ducat. It has some very interesting theories about the psychologies of right-wing men, and their unhealthy sense of their masculinity.
Part of the theory is that right-wing men are afraid of women, and afraid to themselves be "feminine." Part of this is the idea of being in a submissive position politically or in society. If someone or their political party is dominated politically, he associates it with be feminized, penetrated, etc.
Very interesting.
Doesn't lessen my disgust for these freaks, tho.
"The greatest tyranny is censoring information in order to be better able to control people." - Cristina Saralegui
'cause Nancy's gonna get out that 13' inch strap-on and give you both a lesson you won't forget.
She will be "driving home" a few lessons in civility and the limits of FOS with the main "thrust" being responsible broad casting.
"To me, truth is not some vague, foggy notion. Truth is real. And,
at the same time, unreal. Fiction and fact and everything in between,
plus some things I can't remember, all rolled into one big "thing."
This is truth, to me. "
-Jack Handy
Rev. Charles Morris, 56, Pinner, UK: pleaded guilty to sexually assaulting two young girls between 2005 and 2008. Morris admitted to lying on a bed with two female victims and touching the breasts of one of the girls, 10, over her clothes. The girl is autistic. He denies additional accusations against him. He is a Methodist preacher for 17 area churches. He now must sign the Sex Offenders Register. Source: The Times, 3/9/09
Sentenced:
50 years: Rev. Thomas Teczar, 68, Fort Worth, TX, for raping a boy, 11, in 1990. --Source: Star-Telegram, 3/27/09
12 to 15 years: Rev. Everett Long, Statesville, NC, pleaded guilty to statutory rape. Source:
David Silverman's claim that he cannot assist in his defense against charges of rape and child pornography because he is too devout to look at the photographic evidence has been rejected. Source
"I guess that Satan had a big part in the theft." —Colleen R. Okeson, who admitted she stole $73,000 from her church
Study the symptoms not the virus...
Now Beck is the victim: http://insidetv.aol.com/2009/11/17/is-it-time-to-stop-picking-on-glenn-beck/?icid=main|main|dl1|link2|http://insidetv.aol.com/2009/11/17/is-it-time-to-stop-picking-on-glenn-beck/
What's really scary is to read the comments to this story. So much stupid, so little air time to counter it.
Maybe rape is a code word between he and Limbaugh. Maybe about their time spent together.
that ridiculed his rhetorical excesses by asking the question "Did Glenn Beck rape and murder a young girl in 1990?" (a riff on a Gilbert Gottfried joke about Bob Saget). This meme started as a thread on Fark.com and then became a website that Glenn sued to close - only to be humiliated by the arbiter's decision.
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