White House Opposes Court Order in Email Case
By Susie Madrak Sunday Jan 18, 2009 9:00amWell, of course they do! You didn't think they were going to start following the laws at this late date, did you?
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Bush administration is aggressively pushing back against a federal court order instructing the most important offices in the White House to preserve all of their e-mail.
In court papers late Friday, the administration argued that a federal court has no authority to impose such a requirement on the offices of President George W. Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney and the National Security Council.
[...] The issue arose Wednesday after U.S. District Judge Henry Kennedy directed the White House to issue a notice to all employees to surrender any e-mails from March 2003 to October 2005.
[...] In the lawsuits over possibly missing e-mails that may number in the millions, two private groups are seeking to force the White House to engage in a recovery effort and to establish an electronic archive for e-mail.
The White House said this week that it had located 14 million e-mails thought to have been missing. But the White House has provided no details to support this assertion.
The two private groups suing the Executive Office of the President are the National Security Archive and Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington.
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Nigerian king...
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I got that same E-mail. Since it was an overseas correspondence the NSA has been wiretapping me ever since.
I'm curious, everytime we call customer service for anything, we generally get someone in India or the Phillipines.
Does that put us on the NSA list?
(Or for that matter even using key words like NSA? Oops, I did it again.)
Seems like since this is between two branches of government, and the clock is ticking, they could fast-track this to the Supremes.
Either that or waterboard booshco.
Afterall, it ain't torture, right?
.....that Nigerian king who is a major stockholder in AIG, Bear Stearns, Bank of America, Countrywide Homes......
The new administration must open investigations to get to the bottom of the cover ups of this crime family. It is absurd that the highest offie in the land refuses to follow the law. These people must be punished for their thumbing their noses at the law of the land they swore to uphold and protect.
I just use my pinky to pick my nose,
Does that make me a pinko?
I presume!
And I use a pizza slicer in surgery.
LMAO! Duh! The arrogance of this white house is staggering. They push for war but then bear no responsibility for the outcome. They out an undercover CIA agent (treason) and then claim she wasn't undercover. They say they don't torture and then admit to torturing. The list goes on and on. Bush/Cheney may try to paint a rosy picture of the last 8 years but history is not on their side. Maybe they'll try to control who writes the history books as well. The last 8 years have shown us that this administration will go to any lengths to control the "message".
the incriminating evidence is in there somewhere. Why fight over it otherwise?
here Glenn Greenwald continues to fight the good fight.
also has a bit to say about being an accessory after the fact.
Pat Leahy still has two days to write some stern letters.
Nothing will be done about this. The "found" emails will be re-lost after Tuesday and America will have had an administration that placed itself above and totally out of reach of the law. A disastrous precedent for the future.
There is no way Obama will sweep this criminal bullshit under a rug. And don't waste my time giving me any links claiming to know what Obama will do before he's sworn in...he's just playing nice...for now.
The truth and subsequent justice is bipartisan.
Well, we should know very soon, right? I would say that if nothing happens within the first 100 days, then nothing will happen.
This will take time. Like it or not, you've got to be patient.
I'm no spring chicken. I still say - if we see no real movement regarding Bush administration lawlessness within the first 100 days then it's unlikely anything will happen. By that point, I just won't care anymore.
....just remember, Obama didn't leave that shit on the living room floor...in fact there's shit he's got to pick up everywhere.
Walrus = long in the tooth! Took me a while. ; )
ps. No spring chicken here, either, and I agree with you. There will be signs within the first 100 days, it seems, if there is to be movement along those lines.
So what's a young vegetarian called?
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There still might be one more:
PARDONS.
Obama's moment with a whole list of scum that he'll forgive. Brace yourselves folks, we've got another bump to hit before Tues AM.
I really can't imagine a president really pursuing this sort of case no matter what their party.
Andrew Johnson was impeached during the contentious days of Reconstruction, and not being hard enough on the South, from which he was from.
Richard Nixon was impeached for a whole laundry list of crimes against the Constitution.
Bill Clinton was impeached for a blow-job.
Once the precedent's been set for no matter how noble a cause, someone else can come along and make the precedent seem ridiculous.
Was admit to Starr that he had had the blow job. Bill should have known that was what Starr was looking for when he began the Whitewater investigation.
All Starr wanted was the truth. And a whole lot of details about the blow job, a ranking of Monica's abilities on a scale of 1 to 10, and whether or not Bill would consider her for blow jobs in the future. But no Bill had to lie.
...Monica's phone number.
There will be zero upside morally or politically for Obama to let these criminals off. It just won't be the major issue of his Presidency.
Everyone in the Cheney administration will walk free and clear 21 Jan 09.
/I have no doubts.
and Georgie Bush are just opposing this because the Judge's last name is Kennedy!
but Elvis has left the building.
Please leave a message at the tone.
A flush?
"In a Sunday morning interview with Fox' Chris Wallace, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi signaled that she's open to backing prosecutions of Bush administration officials that may arise from congressional hearings."
If that happens, it should also include those Democrats that were Bush enablers (like Pelosi).
or it will look like a partisan witch hunt or just revenge. All enablers, both sides of the aisle. Yes.
You might be serious too.
If you listen to the interview, she spoke only about investigating the Justice Department, no other problems that were mentioned. Congress wasn't involved in the JD lawbreaking, so she has no problem with an investigation of them.
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As for the emails, the NSA has copies of all emails anyway. The judge can request them from that agency after January 20, since we know the Bush administration will delete everything it possibly can. Obama can issue a warrant for them under FISA provisions.
Why does it want to be divisive?! The court should look forward, not back and just let Obama be president!
"Coverup is the last thing I'd have expected from this administration.
By this point I just kinda expect Cheney/bush to hold a press conference just to tell everyone "Suck it!"
Since King George has decided to disregard the law (again), he should be impeached. I still do not understand how the President can be above the law. Oh wait. Nixon said the President is above the law, except when the President is a Democrat.
Quit whining and start looking forward not back. Obama will show you how it's done.
We'll put some of you in jail. Wait and see.
Who's going to put em in jail, the Democrats? Rappin Rove is still out there rappin after he thumbed his nose at congressional subpoenas. Bush is on his way to that rich white formerly segregated subdivision in Dallas and Cheney's booking his flight reservations to the new Halliburton headquarters in Dubai. Obama needs to spend some of that political captial going after the crooks, criminals and traitors that got us into this mess instead of just "looking forward". That's called accountability and that's part of the Change We Need and voted for.
Proof positive that even at this late stage, there is absolutely nothing that Bush can't completely fuck up.
I finally figured out why Bush would not let the Obama family stay at Blair House. Because the smell from across the street at 1600 Pennsylvania was overpowering. To quote "Big Daddy" from "Cat On A Hot Tin Roof", "That's the smell of mendacity"--Lies,lies and more lies. It's gonna take Obama years and plenty of Glade Plug-In's to remove that stink.
For the love of God just let it end, already.
…I’m sure Russia and China will be able to supply copies of all of these missing emails. At least the ones that don’t have .gov behind them anyway.
"You want it WHEN?"
No authority??? NO AUTHORITY??
Who the hell do Bush and Cheney work for? What is this a third world dictatorship?
Oh wait, never mind.
A federal court has been rebuffed.
Open Thread
By bluegal Saturday Jan 17, 2009 8:30pm
Sat, 01/17/2009 - 22:07 > http://crooksandliars.com/bluegal/open-thread-71
bush/cheney fucking criminals to the end.
he gives his goodbye speech "ole poor misunderestimated me",
and then as usual stabs the American people and the
Constitution of the United States in the back.
i vote we use extraordinary rendition and send them
both to the Haigh in Germany.
Lessons and Recommendations Relating to the Presidency of George W. Bush
House Committee on the Judiciary Majority Staff Report to Chairman John Conyers, Jr. January 13, 2009
Snip - In 1973, historian Arthur Schlesinger coined the term “Imperial Presidency” to describe a presidency that had assumed more power than the Constitution allows, and had circumvented the traditional checks and balances of our constitutional system. Until recently, the Nixon Administration seemed to represent the singular embodiment of that idea. But today, as the Bush Administration comes to a close, there can be little doubt concerning the persistence of Mr. Schlesinger’s notion. More than three decades later, Mr. Schlesinger himself characterized the Bush Administration as “the Imperial Presidency redux,” > http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/printers/...
Snip - Late Update: HuffPo spotted a Conyers appearance on the Bill Press show, in which the lawmaker suggests that the best forum for investigating Bush administration crimes may be the World Court or another international body.
http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.c...
Indict Karl Rove
Save the 2008 election > See around 5:00min. and See Timothy Griffin at 14:15min. [
Valid]? RE: “caging”http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/327.html
House Committee on the Judiciary Majority Staff Report to
Chairman John Conyers, Jr. January 13, 2009
12. Partisan politics appears to have led to the decline of discrimination cases involving voting rights brought by the Justice Department. Page 70 of 487
See See Timothy Griffin > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Griffin
Snip - "During the Bush Administration, the Department took a series of positions adverse to the right of minority voters, such as advising states to deny provisional ballots to voters without IDs, and asking a federal judge in Ohio shortly before the 2004 presidential election to permit challenges to minority voters based on “caging” tactics banned in other jurisdictions"
http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/printers/...
New Media Communications and GovTech Solutions provided web services for Bush-Cheney ’04 campaign, the US Chamber of Commerce, the Republican National Committee and many Republican candidates. Many of these sites used servers by an affiliate company called SmarTech. In fact, Connell's New Media Communications helped manage nearly 7 million e-mail addresses of Republican faithful.
The Bush White House used SmarTech servers to send and receive email, the use of one of those servers in tabulating Ohio’s election returns has raised eyebrows. Ohio gave Bush the decisive margin in the Electoral College to secure his reelection in 2004. The servers are located in Chatanooga, TN.
The gwb43 domain was used by members of the White House staff to evade freedom of information laws by sending emails outside of official White House channels was hosted on those same SmarTech servers.
We may never find or know where the emails are at this point because Mike Connell died when his plane crashed on its approach to land at Akron-Canton Airport. The Ohio attorney general requested for Connell to have protection because he was subpoenaed to testify in September 08 on the 2004 press election votes tabulation in Ohio.
dadems- The Hague is in the Netherlands, also known as Holland.
Cheney will go to Dubai, no extradition. Bush will leave Texas for Paraguay when things get hot, again, no extradition.
Sad, but I don't think they will ever face justice.
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