Why Occupy Wall Street Embodies The Real Values Of The Boston Tea Party
ThinkProgress points out how little the Koch-manufactured tea party has in common with the real thing, and how the Occupy Wall Street movement embodies the real spirit:
1.) The Original Boston Tea Party Was A Civil Disobedience Action Against A Private Corporation. In 1773, agitators blocked the importation of tea by East India Trading Company ships across the country. In Boston harbor, a band of protesters led by Samuel Adams boarded the corporation’s ships and dumped the tea into the harbor. No East India Trading Company employees were harmed, but the destruction of the company’s tea is estimated to be worth up to $2 million in today’s money. The Occupy Wall Street protests have targetedbig banks like Goldman Sachs, Bank of America, as well as multinational corporations like GE with sit-ins and peaceful rallies.
2.) The Original Boston Tea Party Feared That Corporate Greed Would Destroy America. As Professor Benjamin Carp has argued, colonists perceived the East India Trading Company as a “fearsome monopolistic company that was going to rob them blind and pave the way maybe for their enslavement.” A popular pamphlet called The Alarm agitated for a revolt against the East India Trading Company by warning that the British corporation would devastate America just as it had devastated South Asian colonies: “Their Conduct in Asia, for some Years past, has given simple Proof, how little they regard the Laws of Nations, the Rights, Liberties, or Lives of Men. [...] And these not being sufficient to glut their Avarice, they have, by the most unparalleled Barbarities, Extortions, and Monopolies, stripped the miserable Inhabitants of their Property, and reduced whole Provinces to Indigence and Ruin.”
3.) The Original Boston Tea Party Believed Government Necessary To Protect Against Corporate Excess. Smithsonian historian Barbara Smith has noted that Samuel Adams believed that oppression could occur when governments are too weak. As Adams explained in a Boston newspaper, government should exist “to protect the people and promote their prosperity.” Patriots behind the Tea Party revolt believed “rough economic equality was necessary to maintaining liberty,” says Smith. Occupy Wall Street protesters demand a country that invests in education, infrastructure, and jobs.
4.) The Original Boston Tea Party Was Sparked By A Corporate Tax Cut For A British Corporation. The Tea Act, a law by the British Parliament exempting tea imported by the East India Trading Company from taxes and allowing the corporation to directly ship its tea to the colonies for sale, is credited with setting off the Boston Tea Party. The law was perceived as an effort by the British to bailout the East India Trading Company by shutting off competition from American shippers. George R.T. Hewes, one of the patriots who boarded the East India Trading Company ships and dumped the tea, told a biographer that the East India Trading Company had twisted the laws so “it was no longer the small vessels of private merchants, who went to vend tea for their own account in the ports of the colonies, but, on the contrary, ships of an enormous burthen, that transported immense quantities of this commodity.” Occupy Wall Street demands the end of corporate tax loopholes as well as the enactment of higher taxes on billionaires and millionaires.
5.) The Original Boston Tea Party Wanted A Stronger Democracy. There is a common misconception that the Boston Tea Party was simply a revolt against taxation. The truth is much more nuanced, and there were many factors behind the opposition to the East India Company and the British government. Although the colonists resented taxes levied by a distant British Parliament, in the years preceding the Tea Party, the Massachusetts colony had levied taxes several times to pay for local services. The issue at hand was representation and government accountable to the needs of the American people. Patrick Henry and other patriots organized the revolutionary effort by claiming that legitimate laws and taxes could only be passed by legislatures elected by Americans. According to historian Benjamin Carp, the protesters in Boston perceived that the British government’s actions were set by the East India Trading Company. “As Americans learned more about the provisions of the new East India Company laws, they realized that Parliament would sooner lend a hand to the Company than the colonies,” wrote Carp.

If today's infrastructure was in place then the Boston PD would be guarding the boxes of tea and macing the patriots. Anyone who did toss a box of tea into the harbor would have been beaten, arrested, and charged with theft and destruction of property.
Too bad, otherwise we could start tossing banksters into the East River.
Reader, suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself.
while encouraging the colonists to work within the King's legal framework, which is the only sensible solution otherwise god would not have selected him.
Oh, and to get better messaging. Ugh all that unfocused nonsense about taxation without representation, "democracy" (what the fuck is that exactly? A country without a king, that's ridiculous!), etc.
And do they really need to play the flute and drums while wearing those ridiculous 3-point hats? Everybody knows the respectable fashion -if you want to be taken seriously- is all about the bicornes, curly wigs, black ribbons, and silky stockings! Those hoodlums should get real jobs and quit smuggling!
CTHULHU 2012 "Why vote for a lesser evil?"
How dare America celebrate these common criminals as heroes. Shocking.
far left loon >.<
a false flag operation and trying to blame the aboriginals too?
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You should see the looks and stare's I get from Teabircher's and idiot republican's when I explain this to them.
When I tell them that they are modern day Torries - the conservatives who supported the crown and fought against the Founding Father's - and that they are on the side of the same corporate oligarch's today; well..., let me just say the response is similar to the one one might get upon farting in a crowded elevator.
Of course, you never hear this FACT brought up on the librul' MSM.
If I were a psychopath, I would join the republican party, and get in on the gravy train taking the Teabircher morons to the cleaners.
I live in a VERY conservative area. My God they're brainwashed like you wouldn't believe. A co-worker actually said that they didn't think the Country would survive if Obama is re-elected. (Which might not be far off. But not (entirely) due to Obama.) Unfortunately, I don't see anything changing on that front. I was taught (60's) that the first English-speaking colonist arrived at... Plymouth Rock. Can't be taught the truth when it involves a Southern state. Hell I didn't even hear of Jamestown until years later.
bodies, as long as someone spell-checks their signs and their Hitler 'staches are drawn on the koch bros.
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---Southwest Airlines
The original folks at the Boston Tea Party had their share of legitimate complaints not unlike these demonstrators. They didn't want to pay taxes to support a monopoly and, most importantly, they didn't want to have such taxes imposed without having a say about them. It's that no taxation without representation thing. These protesters do have representation. They have elected municipal, state and federal governments. When they demand unilateral changes to laws, that is if they ever get around to letting the ink dry on the manifesto, they are behaving like modern tea partiers and not those old guys. Want to protest: fine. Want to impose your views on your fellow citizens: not fine. That's what elections are for and this isn't Tahrir Square either.
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While we do elect them; are we still considered to have representation if they don't even work for us anymore?
It's a great question. Does my representative fail me when he listens to others and votes their way? Do I have a right to expect him or her to always vote my way? I have lower expectations I suppose and am therefore less likely to be disappointed when they do not. Usually I am satisfied with a reasonable compromise of interests. Some people are not. When purists start talking about second amendment solutions like the tea partiers or they start talking about bringing revolution to the streets that sets off alarm bells for me. I start asking questions like: What do you mean by that? And what are your intentions?
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However, this was overshadowed by the fight against corporate greed, and the outlawing of the Colonial Scrip.
Certainly the founders, slaveholders all, had a financial interest, but by comparison it was more of the David and Goliath story, with the Goliath of the day having captured government.
"No one ever said these people were logically consistent."
- watchdog -
I wasn't there but I do know that the one sure way to get people's attention is to take money out of their pockets so you may well be right.
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of the Stamp Act upon his return from a trip to France, lamenting the notable decrease in living standards and rising poverty.
"No one ever said these people were logically consistent."
- watchdog -
I'm more than willing to concede the Boston crew were doing the rightish thing and more importantly for what I happen to think is the right reason.
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doing the rightish thing and more importantly for what I happen to think is the right reason.
?????
(that's some funny shit, there)
far left loon >.<
In those days a private individual could travel on the roads without a license, unless he was conducting commerce. Driving a horse and wagon for the general store to deliver dry goods, you must have a drivers license. At the end of the day, your son can take the horse and wagon home to feed, and brush the horse, and not need a drivers license.
Why?
Because he was not conducting commerce on the public road. Take your goods to market, no license. There was no right to conduct commerce on the public's roads. There still isn't. In fact 99.99% of the American population admit to being in commerce when they drive to work in their motor vehicle. There are a few people who travel on the public's roads without a drivers license, insurance, or proof of registration. There is also a substantial body of law, and court decisions that concur and affirm their right to travel. After all a right can not be legislated into a privilege if you have a government governed by the rule of law.
When they demand unilateral changes to laws
Is that what they're doing? Enlighten me to this train of thought please.
far left loon >.<
Well, I think part of the problem- or the perception of a problem- here is the twofold:
1). That the process of selecting candidates and electing representatives to the government is vetted by a corporately owned media in much the same way that the Guardian Council in Iran vets candidates for public office, and
2). That the perceived need for financial support in campaigning corrupts those candidates further.
While you're correct, Peter, that we have a government that's republican, representative of the People, de jure, we have a de facto oligarchy.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
No, actually, the Tea Baggers and the Tea dumping colonists were and are very much alike. The participants were rabble and their leaders were rabble rousers. And that's what you have today in the Tea Party. And why did the rabble rousers, rouse the rabble? Because the rabble rousers had a great deal to gain. Kind of like the Koch brothers.
"The Original Boston Tea Party Feared That Corporate Greed Would Destroy America". Please! That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. The whole revolutionary impetus was forced by the greed of the colonial Better Sort. Had they felt they would have prospered more and better under the Crown than by splitting from the mother country there would have been no revolution.
Now, come on, you can dress it up with fancy words, lofty, intellectual expression, and Thomas Payne mumbo-jumbo, but the American Revolution came about because of colonial greed in high places. Kind of like the Koch brothers.
creators, the English Parliament decided to placate the masses by flooding the markets with
cheap Asian goods. Professor Carp argued that too.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
BREACH THEIR DEFENSES is the workable plan. It is a matter of will.
JOHN LONGENECKER
Breach Their Defenses USA
What are your intentions?
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Fortune 500 Magazine has lists. I recommend thoughtful selection. Determine selected priorities. That is important in the short run.
JOHN LONGENECKER
Breach Their Defenses USA
It is about getting it done. It's not about sending a message. It's about doing it. It takes the will to do it. What's at steak? A melting planet / radiation spills at insane water boiling facilities / chemicals pumped into our ground water in search of extracting profitable natural gas resources / clear cut forests / chopped off mountain tops in search of dirty coal deposits / our US Citizens sent off to far flung battles to be killed and maimed / extinct creatures on the face of the earth / our water supply contaminated / sea creatures diminished in ruined oceans all over the world / take a look around / an oil well leak in the gulf / lost wetlands in America. For what? It's not for the US Constitution. It's not for democracy. Not religion / not nationalism / not ideology / not race / not culture / not progressive ideals / not for wing nut free market thinkers. All that is meaningless underbrush. The entire world for over 10,000 years is only about one thing. Only one thing really matters at all. Think about it. The Powerful Wealthy Elite Amassing More Wealth. That is what is really what this world is all about. Not cultures. Not societies. Not nations. Not politics. Not religion. Not belief in something beyond beyond humanity. Not seeking an understanding of a spiritual universe. All underbrush. The only thing that is really going in the world that matters is The Wealthy Powerful Elite Amassing More Wealth.
JOHN LONGENECKER
Breach Their Defenses USA
Over? What, did you say over? Nothing is over until we decide it is.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqC_Gma221M
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have no stated goals and are not reacting to any specific action by their government, I think it is appropriate that we now debate who has the best claim to the spirit of an event which took place 238 years ago.
Let me know who is most entitled to coopt a meme from 1773.
* (plus all those in their late thirties, forties, fifties and sixties who keep getting quoted when articles appear in the MSM which is ignoring the protest)
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
You just basically lifted and reposted nearly the entire post from Think Progress right? It's nice you link to them but you're essentially plagiarizing the story.
I wouldn't know having been run off by "stray dog" rabid Obama supporters who think it's fine to empty the sink on tossing insults at those who don't tow the DLC line.
tossing insults.
“Why would anyone with a functioning brain believe this guy?”
Some guy with an eating disorder
but posting a disagreement with Obama on TP is/was just about the same as being run off of RedState.
But whatever...
Are you really that clueless that you can's tell (a) it is in blockquotes and (b) full accreditation is given to Think Progress for the content inside those blockquotes? You obviously are totally clueless with regards to how content is shared on the net - utterly clueless.
http://www.thealders.net/blogs
Just call me Dazed & Confused
Vis a vis the Tea Party;
"Everything comes around twice, the first time is tragedy, the second time is comedy."
1.) The Original Boston Tea Party Was A Civil Disobedience Action Against A Private Corporation.
It's more complicated than you imagine. There was a civil disobedience, but it was organized by, or for the benefit of a private corporation, the East India Trade Company. I do not believe any more than one or two of the participants knew this.
The Original Boston Tea Party Feared That Corporate Greed Would Destroy America.
False, It was the product of corporate greed. Basicly a corporate take over by the East India Trade Company over the King of England. The East India Trade Co. had the authority to raise armies, and appoint judges within it's trading territory to protect it's monopoly. A right they were given in about 1402 by Queen Elizabeth. They raised the Continental Army, and hired George Washington as it's General.
The Original Boston Tea Party Believed Government Necessary To Protect Against Corporate Excess.
False, The East India Trading Company had a trading monopoly in the 13 Colonies, and acted to maximize profits, by cutting out King George.
The Original Boston Tea Party Wanted A Stronger Democracy.
The dumbest statement of all!!!
The organizers of the Boston Tea Party despised, and had contempt or deep repugnance for trading one tyrant 3000 miles away for 3000 tyrants 1 mile away. They did not create a democracy, but a republic. I don't expect one person here to know the difference between the two.
There were many opinions of the founding fathers. Including opposing opinions. Picking and choosing favorite opinions, and ignoring those that discredit what you want to believe is very seductive.
Elizabeth I wasn't even born until 1533. The rights of the East India Company to build fortresses and raise armies wasn't granted until about 1670, during the reign of Charles II.
That you blundered so with this renders moot any other history lesson you attempt to give.
Don't try to confuse the issue with half-truths and gorilla dust.
The East India Company did hire George Washington as the general of the Continental Army, and he flew the flag of the East India Company over his HQ for first 6 months of the revolution.
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/gb-eic.html
Not even close to the version taught in school. The unseen hand was well established even then. Getting people to work against their own best interests.
"It's more complicated than you imagine. There was a civil disobedience, but it was organized by, or for the benefit of a private corporation, the East India Trade Company. I do not believe any more than one or two of the participants knew this."
I'd like to read about this. Do you have a link?
"The antidote to bad speech is more speech." ~~J.S. Mill
Union involvement should help prepare this movement to stick it out for the long run or at least till the government defaults on its debt. Some serious hard time is coming down the road. Stck up and buy silver.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought that the Boston Tea Party had something to do with the Colonist not wanting to be undercut by the king when it came to local pricing of "Tea". You see King (whats-his-face) decided to "dump" cheap tea on the local market, undercutting the small Ma and Pa operations in the colonies. The locals returned the favor by dumping the kings tea in the harbor. It was about local economics, not so much "taxation without Representation".
WTG with your history rewrite. Fortunately, enough of us have studied history to not buy into your BS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Tea_Party
"he Boston Tea Party was a direct action by colonists in Boston, a town in the British colony of Massachusetts, against the British government and the monopolistic East India Company that controlled all the tea imported into the colonies. On December 16, 1773, after officials in Boston refused to return three shiploads of taxed tea to Britain, a group of colonists boarded the ships and destroyed the tea by throwing it into Boston Harbor. The incident remains an iconic event of American history, and other political protests often refer to it."
"Fortunately, enough of us have studied history to not buy into your BS."
I hear the winner write history?
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