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Sunday Morning Bobblehead Thread

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Gee, what are the odds Dick Cheney will once again accuse the Obama administration of making the nation vulnerable to terrorist attack again this morning when he makes a fresh round on the talk-show circuit with an appearance on ABC's This Week?

Fortunately, Joe Biden will also be out there, making two appearances in one day (on "Meet the Press" and "Face the Nation"). Right-wingers love to make fun of Biden, but stacked up against Dick Cheney, just about anyone looks good.

ABC's "This Week" - Former Vice President Richard Cheney sits down with guest anchor ABC News’ Congressional Correspondent Jonathan Karl.

CBS' "Face the Nation" - Vice President Joseph Biden.

NBC's "Meet the Press" - Vice President Joseph Biden, former Rep. Harold Ford, Rep. Aaron Schock, R-Ill., David Brooks, Rachel Maddow.

NBC's "The Chris Matthews Show" - Panel: John Heileman, New York Magazine; Katty Kay, BBC Washington Correspondent; Gloria Borger, CNN Political Analyst; Bob Woodward, Washington Post.

CNN's "State of the Union" - National Security Adviser Jim Jones; Sens. Evan Bayh, D-Ind., and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.

CNN's "Fareed Zakaria GPS" - Paul Volcker, Obama's key economic advisor and former fed chairman, on a crisis even more serious than financial reform. Then, Iran increases its nuclear capabilities - what options are left? Finally, a discussion with South African President Jacob Zuma. 20 years after Nelson Mandela was set free, where does the country stand?

CNN's "Amanpour" - An exclusive interview from Haiti with U.N. Goodwill Ambassador Angelina Jolie. Christiane speaks with Jolie about adoption in Haiti and child trafficking in the midst of the disaster. Iran's Rallying Cry: 31 years after Iran's Islamic revolution there are massive pro- and anti-government rallies. The government vowed opposition protests would be crushed. We look at Iran's Islamic republic at odds with itself.

"Fox News Sunday" - "As Washington recovers from its historic snowfall, a political storm continues to rage over homeland security. Should John Brennan, the president's chief counterterrorism adviser, step down? We'll get reaction from Gen. Jim Jones, White House national security adviser, and Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C."

What piques your interest this morning? Leave your tips in the comments.



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Howard Kurtz did a segment on something I've wanted for a long time: Networks holding people accountable for what they say on our airwaves. A TV Ombudsman.

The more this idea gets out there, the more important it becomes to push it home -- although it would be a real miracle if it did happen. MSNBC did correct Giuliani's lie because it was a lie. Fox News ignored it because of partisanship. Kurtz should stop with the false equivalent comparisons. MSNBC does not promote an agenda for 24 hours seven days a week like Fox does, nor have they promoted a movement to overthrow a sitting president.

UPDATE: Michael Calderone got a response from David Gregory:

Over the weekend, I wrote about some recent criticism of the Sunday shows, along with suggestions such as running a fact-check online or mixing up the regular guests. And the piece prompted a few interesting responses, with more suggestions for utilizing technology better.

The Nation's Ari Melber noted that NBC didn't respond to Jay Rosen's fact-check suggestion that he addressed to "Meet the Press" EP Betsy Fischer a couple weeks ago, but David Gregory responded in a statement for my piece. "That's a big shift from refusing to respond at all," Melber wrote. "And while it's an improvement, it also shows how these programs tend to be more responsive to other members of the media than to their audience."...read on

UPDATE II: Nisha Chittal writes: What the Sunday Morning Shows Need Is A New Media Makeover

What troubled me the most was a quote in Calderone’s piece from Robert Thompson, a professor at Syracuse, who argued that the case for modernizing Sunday shows wasn’t that relevant because young people wouldn’t care enough to watch the shows anyway...

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I fully believe that the Sunday morning talk shows need a new media makeover, and I have a handful of ideas for how they can do so. I admit that I know absolutely nothing about what goes into the making of a political talk show. But what I do know is that my generation wants transparency, participation, and engagement in their political process – and their news. So here are my suggestions on how the Sunday shows might undertake a new media makeover that could finally usher them into the year 2010...read on

Nisha has a lot of nice suggestions, but without fact checking all these innovations are useless. It comes down to the truth. Sure, some things can be debated but not the core issue of a story. When Giuliani said America didn't have a domestic attack under George Bush that was a flat out lie and it needs to be cleaned up immediately and if need be, Rudy should be suspended from TV for a year. Do you think that would help things along? We need the media to do a better job. PERIOD.

CNN has the full transcript:

Kurtz: I talked on this program last week about whether all the Sunday shows and, indeed, all television programs should do more fact-checking of what guests say when politicians come and sit in those seats and make claims, some of which don't always bear that much relation to reality.

I want to play some sound. Senator Jim DeMint, the Republican from South Carolina, went on the "CBS Early Show," MSNBC's "Morning Joe," and he talked with Gloria Borger here on STATE OF THE UNION, making a charge about President Obama and the effort against terrorism.

Let me play that, and you're going to see this from Rachel Maddow's MSNBC program and how she took it on, on a factual basis.

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Sunday Morning Bobblehead Thread

"President" Newt Gingrich on Da Ali G Show

Oh look, President Newt Gingrich is on the Sunday shows. Again. Gosh, I'm so glad that the media is around to tell us just who embodies the change for which we voted. And looking around, it's no better on any other show: former Bush attorney Ed Gillespie on This Week, former governor Mitt Romney on Fox News and every single milquetoasty DINO booked (I'm looking at you, Feinstein and Specter) is paired with a camera-hogging, sound-byte ready (if fact-negligible) Republican like John Kyl, Mitch McConnell or Lindsey Graham. Hello: reality-based community to media--it's 2009, not 2000. Catch the hell up already.

ABC's "This Week" - Sens. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y., and John Cornyn, R-Texas; Ed Gillespie, former Bush White House counselor.

CBS' "Face the Nation" - Sens. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., and Jon Kyl, R-Ariz.

NBC's "Meet the Press" - Pre-empted for the French Open.

NBC's "The Chris Matthews Show" - Panel: Gloria Borger, Dan Rather, John Heilemann, Katty Kay. Topics: Has President Obama solidified a lasting majority for the Democratic Party? How should Republicans respond to Obama, and who are their promising stars? Meter questions: Will Senate Republicans attack Sonia Sotomayor as a liberal or show deference to her? YES: 10 NO: 2; Is Obama winning the national security policy debate with Cheney? YES: 11 No: 1.

CNN's "State of the Union/Reliable Sources" - Sens. Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., Amy Klobuchar, D-Minn., and Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas; Gillespie; Sameh Shoukry, Egypt's ambassador to the U.S.

CNN's "Fareed Zakaria GPS" - In a speech in Cairo this Thursday, President Obama called for a "new beginning" for relations between the U.S. and the Muslim world. Fareed brings together a panel of experts from around the Muslim world and the region to react to and analyze the speech...and what it means for U.S./Arab relations. Plus, author Michael Lewis on the economic crisis and the future of Wall Street.

"Fox News Sunday" - Sens. Arlen Specter, D-Pa., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.; former Gov. Mitt Romney, R-Mass.

So, what's catching your eye this morning?



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(h/t Heather)

While I think it is premature to write an obituary for the Republican Party, it's hard not to watch this clip and not come to the conclusion that the party is in critical condition.

What is a consensus amongst the talking heads is that the GOP is lost today: no leader, no clear idea of what values to champion, no clear idea if it should be centrist or move even further to the right. Of all the things that the Bush administration destroyed in their term of office, their own party is probably the most surprising.

And who is it poised to rise again like Lazarus to prove the divine right of the GOP, according to those Beltway insiders? Newt "Love means never having to say I'm sorry to my other wives" Gingrich. Even Chris Matthews cannot hold back his patented guffaw at the thought.

Ultimately, the group agrees that it remains to be seen whose idea will resonate with the general public, but it appears that no one currently vying for the top role has been able to offer an idea that we haven't seen for the last 30 years. So have I got this straight? No obvious leader, rudderless and no new ideas?

Awwww....couldn't happen to a more deserving party.



The Chris Matthews Show: How Is Obama Different From Bush?

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This is truly a sad statement on the state of journalism in the US today. That the question "How is Obama different from Bush?" even needs to be posed -- much less discussed -- is truly insulting to the intelligence of the waning viewers that these guys get.

Hmmm....let me count the ways: One's a divisive ideologue who has risen to undeserved levels of status given his personal mediocrity and intellectual laziness due to his connections versus one who believes in a post-partisan government that gets things done who has had to overcome many personal obstacles to achieve great levels based on intelligence, charisma and hard work. I can totally see why the public would need this clarified.

The thing that continues to be so frustrating is the continued post facto admissions by the Villagers as to the deficits that we've had over the last eight years with Bush. Sure, now that he is two months away from walking out of the White House for the last time, we can admit that the world hates us and doesn't want to work with Bush, as Katty Kay does, or that he is stupid (to put a more honest term to Woodward and Borger's "intellectually incurious) and finds the whole "understanding other people's points of view" boring.

But where were they for the last four years? Where was their outrage and coverage of this then? How many soldiers' lives could we have saved if the media had been more honest about Bush? How many poor Iraqi civilian lives? Time and time again, the media abdicates their role in presenting context and in this case, their acceptance of the catapulted propaganda has led the country to the brink of ruin. And yet they feel no culpability. Instead, they treat us to these faux-hard hitting dialogues comparing and contrasting Obama to Bush. Brilliant.



Dick Cheney: Flip Flops

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Dick Cheney: tethered to reality?

From Hardball 11/08/05

Remember when Dick Cheney said it was pretty well confirmed before he didn't?

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In '01, Cheney said this on MTP: CHENEY: It‘s been pretty well confirmed that he did go to Prague and he did meet with a senior official of the Iraqi intelligence service in Czechoslovakia last April.

on 6/19/04 CNBC, he said:

GLORIA BORGER, TV SHOW HOST: You have said in the past that it was, quote, “pretty well confirmed.”

CHENEY: No, I never said that. BORGER: OK.

CHENEY: I never said that. BORGER: I think that is...

CHENEY: Absolutely not.

This clip shows the real Dr. Evil. He knows exactly what he said in 01', and as Mikey says: Although I have to say I just was struck watching that Gloria Borger interview juxtaposed with the “Meet the Press” comment.---I mean, it just—it does raise questions about the tether to reality here, which I think is at the heart of much of the controversy about his prewar statements and the role he played in the run-up to war.



Mickey Klaus catches Rush Limbaugh Lying

via The American Street:

"Wow. Mickey Kaus actually paid $49.95 just to find out whether Gloria Borger and Bob Schieffer rather Rush Limbaugh were lying about a Ken Starr quote.

I’ll give you three guesses on who he determined was lying.

Hint: The person is does not work for PBS or CBS news.

Hey Mickey, I could have given you that answer for half the price!"

My friend is too kind. Does Klaus even have to bother asking?