Here's the video from my earlier link---although it has much more than his views on Roe v Wade.
He stumbles around big time on gay rights also. He won't even say he's for civil unions.
Thanks to ABC for the transcript
MCCAIN: My record. My record of being a conservative
Republican, of knowledge on national security and defense issues. My
advocacy for less government is the best government, and I think
people should be judged on their record, but also their vision for the
future of the country.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Mayor Giuliani describes himself as both pro-
choice and pro-gay rights. Do you think someone with those positions
can get the Republican nomination and effectively lead the Republican
MCCAIN: I don't know. I know that he's an American hero. I
know that Americans will never forget the magnificent job he did
following 9/11, and I think he would be very favorably looked on by a
lot of Americans.
STEPHANOPOULOS: I know you're not pro-choice. You're pro-life.
Are you pro-gay rights?
MCCAIN: In the respect that I believe that the don't ask, don't
tell policy is working in the military. I don't know how you view
that. I do not believe that marriage between -- I believe in the
sanctity and unique role of marriage between man and woman, but I
certainly don't believe in discriminating against any American.
STEPHANOPOULOS: But on that don't ask, don't tell policy, the
military now classifies homosexuals -- they classify homosexuality as
a defect. Do you agree with that?
MCCAIN: No, I don't think they do that. I'd have to...
STEPHANOPOULOS: It actually is. Yes, they do right now.
MCCAIN: I don't think it's a, quote, "defect," but I do believe
the don't ask, don't tell policy has been very effective. We've got
the best military we've ever had in our all-volunteer force, so I
think the policy is working.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You say you believe marriage should be reserved
for between a man and woman. You voted for an initiative in Arizona
that went beyond that and actually denied any government benefits to
civil unions or domestic partnerships. Are you against civil unions
for gay couples?
MCCAIN: No, I am not. But that initiative, I think, was
misinterpreted. I think that initiative did allow for people to join
in legal agreements such as power of attorney and others. I think
that there was a difference of opinion on the interpretation of that
constitutional amendment in Arizona.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So you're for civil unions?
MCCAIN: No, I am for ability of two people -- I do not believe
gay marriage should be legal. I do not believe gay marriage should be
legal, but I do believe that people ought to be able to enter into
contracts, exchange powers of attorney, other ways that people who
have relationship can enter into.
STEPHANOPOULOS: You threw your support behind Trent Lott to be
Republican whip. He has said that homosexuality is a sin. Is that
what you think?
MCCAIN: I've never heard Trent Lott state that, but, no, that's
not what I...
STEPHANOPOULOS: That's not your position?
STEPHANOPOULOS: One final question on abortion. You're for...
MCCAIN: I just want to point out again, I believe that gay
marriage should not be legal, OK, but I don't believe that we should
discriminate against any American, because that's not the nature of
STEPHANOPOULOS: Does that extend then that you should -- do you
believe then that there should be a law that bans discrimination
against gays and lesbians in the workplace?
MCCAIN: I don't believe we should discriminate against anyone in
the workplace, but I don't think we need specific laws that would
apply necessarily to people who are gay.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me ask one question about abortion. Then I
want to turn to Iraq. You're for a constitutional amendment banning
abortion, with some exceptions for life and rape and incest.
MCCAIN: Rape, incest and the life of the mother. Yes.
STEPHANOPOULOS: So is President Bush, yet that hasn't advanced
in the six years he's been in office. What are you going to do to
advance a constitutional amendment that President Bush hasn't done?
MCCAIN: I don't think a constitutional amendment is probably
going to take place, but I do believe that it's very likely or
possible that the Supreme Court should -- could overturn Roe v. Wade,
which would then return these decisions to the states, which I
STEPHANOPOULOS: And you'd be for that?
MCCAIN: Yes, because I'm a federalist. Just as I believe that
the issue of gay marriage should be decided by the states, so do I
believe that we would be better off by having Roe v. Wade return to
the states. And I don't believe the Supreme Court should be
legislating in the way that they did on Roe v. Wade.
STEPHANOPOULOS: Let me ask you about Iraq. President Bush is in
Vietnam this week, and he says the lesson for Iraq from Vietnam is
"we'll succeed unless we quit." Is that the lesson you draw from
MCCAIN: The lesson I learned from Vietnam is applicable today.
If you're going to do what's necessary to succeed, i.e., the Powell
doctrine, then go ahead and do it. But if you're not willing to, then
And right now, from the beginning, as was acknowledged by General
Abizaid last week, we didn't have enough troops on the ground at the
beginning. Things continued to deteriorate, and we're faced with
very, very tough decisions in Iraq today.
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