FNS: "Dick Cheney's secured, undisclosed bunker of his mind"
By John Amato Saturday Jun 23, 2007 2:20pm
Even Brit Hume thought the VP's excuses were lame. William the Bloody Kristol tries to shield Cheney as usual...As long as we're bombing things in the Middle East, Kristol will defend Cheney's idiotic attempts to hide information using the argument that he's not part of the Executive branch. Juan Williams says:
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Williams: ...Maybe they have a reason because he stopped complying with the law...emails disappear in this White House and you say well what happened to the emails---oh--no...we have a private account.....This is all a dodge, this is a game in order to I guess to keep Dick Cheney in some kind of a secured, undisclosed bunker of his mind...so that he he can't let the American people know what's going on with their government and how decisions are made...who's visiting his house....who's visiting his office...Scooter Libby is letting people know who is working for the CIA...
The panel laughs, but this is no joking matter....
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When will Richard Cheney FUCK OFF and leave my country alone?
Maybe he could FUCK OFF to Saudi Arabia where his REAL handlers live.
In any case, FUCKING OFF should be his number 1 goal
Bill Kristol is Cheney's whore, as usual, but now even Fox (har har) "news" is saying Cheney's fake argument is fake.
shit-for-brains and chucknut both are declaring they are above and not included in the law shit-for-brains signed covering inclusively all branches and departments of the govt. these bastards are criminals and fascists. congress had better get some balls and do the right thing or come election we need to replace them ALL.
This is the longest I've ever seen Juan Williams be allowed to talk without being shouted down by the wingnuts. Hell, if even BRIT says it's a stupid argument, then why can't everyone see it?
Oops, forgot; Kristol was Quayle's chief of staff. 'Nuf said.
Kristol enjoys being an asswipe for the administration, and always with that pansy-boy smirk on his face. Nobody is exempt from the law, and demanding obedience to the law is not a partisan attack. However, his special pleading defense of Cheney is partisan.
Wouldn't this mean that Cheney can't claim Executive Privilage then?
Cheney's assinine claim that he is not a member of the exectutive branch is so obviously false that he can't be serious.
What he means is, "Fuck you little people, I'm Dick Cheney- Bitch!"
Kristol and Cheney need to be in prison for the rest of their lives...
Kristol especially, that smarmy bastard is one of the most dangerous people in this country, as he enables and encourages the rapid decent we are currently on for the foreseeable future...
No... Electing Hillary, or Obama is certainly not going to change that.
At least this issue is one with serious Gravity... Our government has gone rogue... THAT IS SOMETHING WE NEED TO DEAL WITH!!!
Chrissie Wallace is such a repugnant douchebag; I can barely stand to look at his face.
... in other news - hey, there's a new comment system and it's got a spellchecker! Aww... the trolls will never be the same... *sigh*
baby jesus is not sure about this new format?
Imagine Colonel Klink's reaction if Cliniton and/or Gore had tried this. He was so gungho for impeachment and the 'rule of law' way back then. Gawd, what a contemptible ass.
Do we trust our elected officials?
Hell No!
Can you say contempt of Congress?
I think you can.
Juan Williams. Way to go bro, you carved him up like Zorro. Love it when people know what they are talking about and stay focused.
BTW: John, why was the woman's comment edited out? Sounded like she was going to add to the discussion's direction of Bad Dickie?
The thing is that Cheney is too stupid to realize that this kind of shit WILL come out eventually.
There are no such things as
anymore.
Soon after he leaves office much of this crap will come out and I hope that whoever takes office (most likely of the Democratic persuasion) will "leak" tons of this stuff.
Yes, he can hit delete and fill burn bags all he wants, but nothing in DC EVER goes away permanently.
Bottom line: The man is Pond Scum and it is way past time to clean the swamp.
PS: LOVE the new format. C&L rocks!
Even the Faux News folks are saying this is all bullshit, but Kristol still covers. [deleted--do not advocate violence on this site]
I don't know who makes me want to [deleted--no violence please] out more, Joe LIEberman or Bloody Kristol. It's not even them...it's the media that gives these 2 turncoats the voice to spew their crap.
How about makes me want to "hang a lugie on their forhead" more?
Site Monitor: Gross, unhygienic, but acceptable.
Only Kristol will make an argument of this. It's amazing the secret government is allowed to operate in this manner. If there is top secret information they need to keep secret, fine. If it is secret only to protect their ass, we need to know. This is the most corrupt administration we have ever had. I thought Nixon was bad. These guys have him beat, hands down.
Anyone else having trouble with the video links? I'm using firefox and I just see "
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This Cheney thing has me more scared than angry. This sort of thing is disempowering to all Americans. This is democracy??
Kristol is a PNAC war profiteer and so he should be ignored totally. That said, I have a can of Raid if you would like to use some, as it looks to me there are still bugs in the now comment system! It takes forever for my post to come up!
After William explains to kristol that his answer is just dead wrong; kristol answer is well... Great comeback! And kristol shouldn't look that surprised when he hears the truth.
cheney could be selling or showing our secrets. We know he is involve in the BAE scandal.
I bet some secret documents have a coffee ring on them. cheney is sloppy and sneaky.
cheney is covering his wide, pale stinkin ass.
repugs are terrorist
Did Kristol justify Cheney's
Kristol: "Some things need to be kept secret. And Dick Cheney, I think, was right. Too many secrets have been leaking out. It remains the case that our agencies leak much too much. And it wasn't crazy for Dick Cheney to think we need to tighten up on classified information."
Wow. Cheney didn't tightening up on classified information. He claimed the rules for securing sensitive information doesn't apply to his office. And has Kristol forgot what office leaked information about Plame? Guess you can make any argument once you disassociate yourself from reality. Talk about a lunatic running the asylum.
I would travel to DC, if after a fair trial, Cheney (along with Lynne) was given the Mussolini sweet ending in a most public fashion. Bring on the buzzards. A substantial question exists whether these parasites of death could stomach this fatty piece of vile carrion.
<blockquote>The thing is that Cheney is too stupid to realize that this kind of shit WILL come out eventually.
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There are no such things as <blockquote>Secrets Forever</blockquote> anymore.
Soon after he leaves office much of this crap will come out and I hope that whoever takes office (most likely of the Democratic persuasion) will "leak" tons of this stuff.
Yes, he can hit delete and fill burn bags all he wants, but nothing in DC EVER goes away permanently.
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I disagree.
This is the problem, Cheney is insuring that no one will see this stuff. He already had shredding trucks at his house months ago, so a bunch of stuff is gone. The Supremes ruled that his energy meetings can be secret.
He has his own man-sized safes, he will not let anyone see what is in there. There are no records, there are no copies, there are no emails, there is nothing to leak!!!
The only solution I can see is that either marshals or the FBI needs to get in there and start seizing the safes and servers.
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How about makes me want to “hang a lugie on their forehead” more?
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LOL, Site Monitor you are certainly doing your job! You were quite right on the 1st edit; I TRULY don't advocate violence (even if it it nice to fantasize sometimes, given what these crooks & liars are doing to our country and to the world). But I have to admit, if I were to meet face to face with some of these guys I doubt I would be mannered or "hygienic".
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The only secret document in that safe is a Halliburton datebook with lists of the meetings with mutual clients from the oil cartel and, occasionally, other government contractors that go to Cheney for access to no-bid (read easily lootable) government contracts.
The only other visitors are Condi and The Dummy who comes by once in a while to borrow the office so he can be sodomized by Jeff Gannon.
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Dick Cheney is a criminal rogue entity who has overtaken control of this Administration.
there is a completely unmonitored uninvestigated paranoid psychopath who has had full reign and control on all levers of government and at all levels right up to the so-called “President” of the United States of America from the first day this Administration unlawfully gained access to power.
Will NO ONE — Congress and/or THE PRESS investigate and doggedly pursue this contemptible, sick and perverted hater of Democracy????
I can't wait until the Democrats are Pesident and VP. This is going to be fun. :lol:
I would suspect the Democrats have no inclination of investigating, indicting, charging, etc. etc.. They'll only make a lot of noise about the goings on and seem to be concerned. When they come to power they want the same thing so why not let the Republics hand it to them. Democracy and the rule of law will not be saved or put back on track by elections or voting. You are going to be forced to use your imagination.
In Section IV of Amendment 25 of the US Constitution it specifies how the vice president and a majority of the principal officers can, "...transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President..."
So is it possible to have the vice-president declared unfit, and have his position taken over by the next one in the chain of command, the Speaker of the House?
However, for that to work at all without a new amendment, the president would have to be facing impeachment himself, which presumably would affect his appointment powers.
Dick Cheney is absolutely correct in believing he is above all the laws of this country. Until someone does something about his crimes, he IS above the law and above reproach.
Who is going to hold Dick Cheney accountable???? Who???? Not Nancy Pelosi. Not Harry Reid. Not any of the democrats and certainly not any of the enabler criminal republicans.
So I say again, Dick Cheney is above the law. It is a fact. An undesputed fact. He is completely and absolutely above the laws of these United States and he will remain so, because not one person in our government believes that our government is worth the trouble that it would take to hold him accountable to the law.
Things for Cheney to review in the bunker.
Happy Reading, Dick.
I'm on Safari, and I, too, am seeing [media1] [media2] rather than the videos.
The CPA-ification of our government is complete.
Dick "less" Cheney is now the "Paul Bremer" of Washington's Green Zone, with Dick Cheney (like Paul Bremer and the CPA were in Baghdad) now only accountable to Dick Cheney. No U.S. laws now apply to Dick Cheney. No constitutional law. No U.S. federal law enacted by our Congress. The federal courts? Pshaw. Dick Cheney is above the courts, including the Supreme Court. In Cheney's twisted mind, even Scalia, Roberts, Alito, Thomas and Kennedy can just "Go Fuck Themselves." As can George W. Bush.
Dick "less" Cheney, the Halliburton emissary to our federal government. Dick "less" Cheney, the corporate thug. Dick "less" Cheney, conducting a "hostile takeover" of our democratic government for his fellow corrupt corporatists, for the racists, for the religious fanatics, for the fascist members of the fascist branch of the Republican Party.
Impeach Dick "less" Cheney Now!!!
The journalist, media and all the elected officials have known for 6 years that Cheney was running the government illegally. Even at Libby's trial it was told about the Secret Agency set up by Cheney that made all the decisions made by the United States. Now with the Washington Post story everyone trying to act like this is new. We have elected officials in the Senate, Congress and House of Reps. who knew this was going on and did nothing about it. Yes even Democrats knew about the criminal acts of Cheney but did nothing. Nixon would be proud to see his student Cheney using his criminal play book with such success. Americans have put their heads in the sand for 6 years allowing Cheney to do his corruption and send thousands of soldiers to die for Iraq Oil. Journalist have been on the pay roll and this is the result. The joke is having an unqualified idiot like Gonzales to investigate Cheney as Gonzales has known the plan from day one.
Billy Kristol is a truly despicable human being.
"As long as we’re bombing things in the Middle East, Kristol will defend Cheney"
That's not the key link. Kristol IS A CO-CONSPIRATOR. He loves this Unitary Executive crapola, and he loves his Federalist Society blood-brothers, and will do anything to promote the cause.
HE SHARES THE GUILT.
None of this is new. Kristol has known of the OVP (ODQ, Office of Dan Quayle) for the duration. He's perfectly happy to hand America over to traitors -- he helped DO SO.
I happened to be watching this also.
Juan was filled with the spirit, and he testified! (Well, actually, he was sitting down, but you get it.)
What a great line! a secure, undisclosed bunker of his mind! MUAHAHHAHA!
Cheney will die like Hitler in the bunker with a capsule in the mouth.
Would someone PLEASE impeach Bill Kristol?
Bill Kristol is another one of those silver spooned accidents of birth muddying the airwaves and ruining this country. Without his heritage (double play), he would just still be the nerdy little kid that was pushed into the bushes eveyday by the school bully.
the Pannel is little more then a bunch of America hating Knucleheads
Wouldn't it be just like Fox News to find exposing a covert CIA agent funny. Anyone that finds humor in breaching our security is a traitor, too, just like Scooter Libby.
Toddlover @ 40:
One could only hope.
Would like to hear traitor Bill Kristol's response to the next VP, which will be a Democrat, when this VP refuses to follow the law. Kristol was upset that Monica chose Clinton's cigar over his.
I can't help wondering…
If the clamoring press can track every silent, non-odiferous fart of the British royals, then why can't they do the same for the American royals? If the Prince of Darkness defies the Constitution, pretending he's above (or outside) the law, "shredding" public records (literally and digitally)—then do it yourself, members of the press! Stand tall! Stake him out. Make photos. Take notes. Record names.
Cheney won't tell us who visits his home and office? Cool! Then let's get the paparazzi to tell us. If someone will put up the cash, then the paparazzi will do the job members of the U.S. Congress are too cowardly or perhaps too incompetent to undertake.
No person, no office, is above the Constitution and the law. No person, no office, can be allowed to operate without accountability. If Cheney's insult to democracy, his pissing on the Constitution, flies, then democracy is dead. Period. The word democracy means rule by the demos—i.e., the people. If ours is indeed a democracy, then the people need to assert their authority. Now!
Apparently members of our Congress are unwilling to represent the demos. Members of the MSM press are unwilling even to alert the demos to Cheney's thumbing his nose at the Constitution and his "demotion" of the (non-wealthy) American people to the status of serfs, let alone scream with outrage. Alas. They are all members of the same "inside the beltway" club. They are all sharing in the same closed, mutually rewarding, secret from the public, circle… Blaaaat!!! Rude analogy deleted.
Let's just say that they mutually pleasure one another
So who'll stand up for democracy? Who'll represent freedom combined with accountability? Who'll represent what America is supposed to be about?
wtf is brit hume talking about? a de facto modification?! wtf?!
there has ben this quote circling around my brain for years. While we mere peasants run around in the horror of color-coded terror, the government says to our question:
"PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN"
To these clowns the idea of an elected Government is a joke so to them it is all a laughing matter.
Arrest Mary "Witch" Matalin and make her talk! She knows what goes on behind
closed doors of Cheney's office.
How Many Laws Along The Way Can Can They Make?
The Teflon administration does it again. When is this just going to be against the god dam law? This shit is getting old. Very old indeed. Take your pick; this president and his cronies don't respect the law, the congress, nor the American people. I say enough is enough; no more media misinformation and framing the issues as something to be debated. This shit they are doing is unlawful and we should refuse to take part in third party debate exercises about it.
I see an ugly dysfunctional practice being carried out. I thought no one, and I mean no one, is above the law? So what is going on? At what point does the Democratic congress take on this, not as an oversight, but as laws broken?
This vice president have went behind close doors with the greedy oil companies and worked out a way to turn the pricing structure on its heals and worked out a illegal way to bleed the American people out of Billions of dollars. This same vice president has involved his "old company" in supplying our troops after receiving no bid contracts. Americans have had to sit by and endure our tax paying wealth be loss and unaccounted for, taken without service rendered, and at times in cold, big block on pallets, dollars. I am mad, not angry, and something should be done. Impeach Bush and Chaney together, and if necessary, the whole Republican Party.
Joseph
While I thought that Williams made a good point, Hume is rolling his eyes and Kristol is making hand motions. This is not a serious discourse, the latter two are class clowns.
What a joke...
Juan, JUAN, yours is not the reason why!
But why do you fight the lonely fight?
Night after lonely night.
You do not fight the liberal fight,
You fight for what is right,
And reality has that tendency...
It's all a big joke to these horses' asses.
There is nothing more horrifying to conservatives like Cheney than the truth. Truth is to conservatives what sunlight is to vampires.
Greg Palast has the emails... really
People please learn how to edit your vids before uploading. I'm not one to speak, but anyway...
Kristol is a criminal, along with the rest of this inept, deceitful, arrogant administration. I'd like to whack that stupid smirk off his face.
"...undisclosed bunker of his mind”
Sounds like a chorus from some psychedlic rock song of the 60's.
I think the test for republicans should be to put the shoe on the other foot.
It's 2010, President Clinton claims executive privilege for all correspondence, The DNC supplies the White house staff with private e-mails in which the Dems plot to use the justice department to arrest and charge prominent republicans with a variety of crimes. Meanwhile millions of e-mails mysteriously disappear from Bill Clinton's account with the DNC after it is revieled that he's using government Pc's to solicit donations for the upcoming congressional races. Oh and we invaded Turkey on false pretenses.
Do Republicans think that that behavior would be acceptable? They wouldn't want to ask any questions under oath of any of the principles?
I think not.
Remember Whitewater? Remember Travelgate? Repugs foamed at the mouth every chance they had, Bill Clinton couldn't lose a sock without the Repugs demanding to know what he did with it, while the Pundits called it Sockgate and congress appointed a special prosecutor to find the sock.
Oops. I just puked on Kristol.
Sorry. You doosh.
All the Signs Point to Martial Law! If one Studies the Ancient Roman Emperors After the Fall of the Free Republic Most of them do not Even Come Close to the Kind of Tyranny we are Beginning to See here in this Empire of Fear.
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