Lara Logan on Bill O'Reilly: It's so ridiculous. ..you shouldn't have to stoop to address those kinds of issues.
By John Amato Saturday Jun 23, 2007 3:16pm
Lara broke a horrifying story this week on CBS about the nightmare some Iraqi children in an orphanage faced. "Iraqi Orphanage Nightmare." Abu Ghraib came to my mind....She was on CNN's Reliable Sources and talked about the troubles she had trying to get this story cleared within our military and the Iraqi government. I'm sure the Bill Kristol's of the world would say that this is "just an unfortunate incident."
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She also responded to Bill O'Reilly's argument about why he doesn't cover the Iraq war all that much...
LOGAN: Well, I mean, with all due respect to Bill O'Reilly or anyone who takes that line, I mean, I just -- it's ridiculous. It's completely and utterly ludicrous. And how can you -- the media's job is not to serve one side or the other. That's never been our job. We're there to be the watchdog for all sides.
So it's not up to us to say, oh, you know, it doesn't -- it doesn't do well for the war effort if you show how many people are being killed, so we're not going to show it. I mean, what are we talking about? That's not even journalism.
It's so ridiculous. I actually don't think that I should -- I mean, you shouldn't have to stoop to address those kinds of issues.
And also, I mean, where are all of these people who think that we're helping the terrorists' cause? I mean, what about the fact that this is the reality, that these bombings are still taking place, that in spite of the surge, and people are still dying in Iraq, that huge numbers of American soldiers are dying over here? I mean, now we're in the game of hiding, only telling what some people want to hear? That's not what we do.
(graphic via CBS....full transcript via CNN below the fold)
KURTZ: The bad news out of Iraq has been pretty relentless, as anyone with a television set knows. But this week there was a story that reminded us, whatever your feelings about the war, that American forces can accomplish some positive things in this bloody conflict. The circumstances though were just horrifying.
CBS's Lara Logan reported on a military unit that made a gruesome discovery in a building in central Baghdad.
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LARA LOGAN, CBS CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Inside the building, a government-run orphanage for special needs children, they found more emaciated little bodies tied to their cribs, kept this way for more than a month, according to the soldiers called in to rescue the 24 boys.
STAFF SGT. MICHAEL BEALE, U.S. ARMY: I saw children that you could see literally every bone in their body, they were so skinny, had no energy to move whatsoever, no expression on their face.
LT. STEPHEN DUPERRE, U.S. ARMY: Kids were tied up, naked, covered in their own...
LOGAN (on camera): Feces?
DUPERRE: ... waste, feces. And there were just three people that were cooking themselves food, but not for the kids.
LOGAN: In the kitchen?
DUPERRE: Yes, ma'am.
LOGAN: With all these kids starving around them?
DUPERRE: That's correct.
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KURTZ: And joining us now from Baghdad to talk about the story and coverage of the war is CBS's chief foreign correspondent, Lara Logan.
You've seen a lot of war and devastation on your beat. What was your gut reaction personally when seeing the pictures of these young boys?
LOGAN: It was hard to believe. I mean, nobody can look at those pictures and not be absolutely shocked to the core. And I think that that's one of the big problems with this story, because the Iraqis who were there that night, the soldiers who were there and saw how these boys were kept, they understand just how evil it was, what was done to them.
But what you're hearing from the Iraqi government and even from some American officials is that, oh, there was no electricity, that's how it happened, and they were tied up for their own good. And, you know, they're special needs children, they don't -- they are disabled, so they would have been dead otherwise if they hadn't been in this place. And my feeling is, if anyone who can say anything like that hasn't looked at those pictures and hasn't seen those children and doesn't want to see those children -- because to take that kind of line when you know what was done to these boys, I think it's criminal.
KURTZ: How did you get on to this story? Was it an effort by the U.S.
military to generate some good news for a change for the American side?
LOGAN: Now, Howie, you cover the media, so you know that no good journalist discloses their sources. I can't tell you how I came upon the story, but what I can tell you is that it was not an attempt by the U.S. military.
In fact, what you will be interested to know about is how difficult it was for me to tell this story, which the soldiers themselves thought the media was deliberately hiding it. What they didn't know was that the Army hadn't told anyone about this for a week. And I found out through my own private means, and when I did, I went to the military.
I was given a lot of support from the unit, a lot of support from the division. But as it started to go higher up the ranks, to the more political thinkers on the American side, I hit a wall. And I was told that I needed Iraqi government permission from the Ministry of Labor to do this story, because they said the Iraqis had the lead.
That's one of their favorite sayings over here, is the Iraqis have the lead on this. And my response to that was, why do I need permission from the Iraqi government to speak to American soldiers?
And I was told because, you know, the Iraqis were the ones who saved these boys. And I said, "Well, that's very interesting, because I am looking at photographs of American soldiers carrying emaciated boys, and I don't see any Iraqi soldiers in these pictures."
And there was a silence on the end of the phone by someone who was actually trying to help me. And they said, "OK, we'll come back to you." And actually, it's only because I had a two-hour meeting with a top general in this country who gave me his full approval. That was how I broke through the wall and managed to get to do the story.
KURTZ: Boy, it's fascinating that they actually would throw roadblocks in your path.
Now, as you know, in the middle of the week the Iraqi labor minister put out a statement and said, "We totally reject the tricks they use to manipulate and distort facts and show the Americans as the humanitarian party. That could not be further from the truth. Is it just propaganda for their alleged kindness?"
What did you make of that response by the Iraqi government?
LOGAN: You mean besides blind rage on my part when I heard those words?
KURTZ: Right.
LOGAN: That -- I mean, it really -- that was how we all felt, because to say something like that, to make this political, to make this more about politics and about staying in power, and self-justification than about these boys, as I said to you before, I think that's criminal. And it's not only deceitful, it's completely and utterly untrue.
And I don't know how -- I mean, Prime Minister Maliki ordered all the people involved in this incident at the orphanage to be arrested. And yet, the minister of labor stood at that press conference where he made those remarks and had the manager of the orphanage next to him, standing there to publicly defend and justify his actions.
I mean, so that demonstrates to me not only that Prime Minister Maliki either doesn't have control or is not exercising control, and that the ministry -- the minister of labor is, I mean, he's dishonest and he shouldn't be allowed to do this. I mean, but this ministry is what you call a Sadrite ministry connected to Muqtada al-Sadr and Jaish al-Mahdi, and it seems like they are able to do their own thing. And they will try and justify this any way they can.
KURTZ: Right.
Let's talk about the broader issue of war coverage. FOX's Bill O'Reilly says that the other networks -- he did not mention CBS -- are constantly showing bombings and suicide attacks and other violence in Iraq to undermine President Bush, and that this is giving the terrorist what they want.
What's your reaction to that kind of criticism? I know you wrestle with how much violence to show in your regular reports.
LOGAN: Well, I mean, with all due respect to Bill O'Reilly or anyone who takes that line, I mean, I just -- it's ridiculous. It's completely and utterly ludicrous. And how can you -- the media's job is not to serve one side or the other. That's never been our job. We're there to be the watchdog for all sides.
So it's not up to us to say, oh, you know, it doesn't -- it doesn't do well for the war effort if you show how many people are being killed, so we're not going to show it. I mean, what are we talking about? That's not even journalism.
It's so ridiculous. I actually don't think that I should -- I mean, you shouldn't have to stoop to address those kinds of issues.
And also, I mean, where are all of these people who think that we're helping the terrorists' cause? I mean, what about the fact that this is the reality, that these bombings are still taking place, that in spite of the surge, and people are still dying in Iraq, that huge numbers of American soldiers are dying over here? I mean, now we're in the game of hiding, only telling what some people want to hear? That's not what we do.
KURTZ: All right. Got about half a minute.
You reported on Friday that some Iraqi politicians are plotting to topple Prime Minister Maliki through a vote of no confidence. Why haven't we heard more about that story from other news organizations?
LOGAN: You know, I really don't know. I can't speak to other news organizations. I mean, that was an exclusive story, getting those people to speak to us and speak to us on camera, and to talk about this.
I know that other reporters are following it and investigating it, but nobody wants to just report what other people are reporting unless -- and this is complicated. You know, there are rumors all the time over here about different parties forming together to topple the government, but this was much more than rumors.
This is something concrete. And Prime Minister Maliki is now trying to counter that with another movement. But these are difficult stories to tell.
And what people often don't appreciate about serious journalists is that it takes a lot of time and reporting and hard work to be absolutely sure before you go into print or before you go on air.
KURTZ: Right.
LOGAN: And I think that's what some of my colleagues might be doing at this time.
KURTZ: All right. Well you had them on camera. A fascinating story.
Lara Logan, thanks very much for joining us from Baghdad. And please, stay safe
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troubles she had trying to get this story cleared within our military and the Iraqi government.
why would a free press clear this type story?
What have we come to?
And what is with this new comment nightmare?
Having Logan addressing O'Reilly's venomous sniping is like asking Julia Child to explain her kitchen techniques to Jeffrey Dahmer.
This lady has far more balls and true moral compass than almost any other member of the US media. The US mainstream media should all look to this "pretty blonde" for how the job should be done! Are you listening Timmey? Tweety? BillO?
bilge-o is only in reporting his personal careless hygene. news is just another dump to him.
Cut off her mike!
Finnaly a real reporter!
Thank the gods we still have Journalists in this fading Republic.
Oh, come on. So a few orphans have a hard time. A few civilians have died. A few US military have died. This is a war. And without this war, Chemical Ali would never have been caught and sentenced to hang. Finally 9/11 is avenged!!
Ladies and gentleman, the President of the United States ... Georgw W. Bush. [wait for applause]
This lady has far more balls and true moral compass than almost any other member of the US media. The US mainstream media should all look to this “pretty blonde” for how the job should be done! Are you listening Timmey? Tweety? BillO?
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kurtz is a tool of his corporate masters
has he yet apologized for not calling lufa boy on his umpteenth lie regarding ww2
and logan is a news goddess
Lara Logan is a treasure. I'm glad Kurtz has had her on several times. "You mean besides blind rage?" may be my favorite line. O'Reilly is a pathetic, blustering gasbag. Logan is the real deal.
She is an Angel...
I love her
I love her too.
We should send this to KO, he will love her comments about BO.
She "gets it." A true journalist.
God bless her.
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Kurtz is still a putz. O'Reilly, as we know, is completely deranged.
I feel so sad for her to have to report this shit....That this is happening and the lies are continuing...and the hiding of the truth continues,,,i feel like i can almost feel her pain....even if the problems in iraq ended tomorrow,,,there is still Darfur,,,Ethiopia,,,, Somalia,,,Haiti.....
For Lara, who i absolutely love....the pain in her heart must be so great, because it seems like it never ends....
competence is sooo sexy. O'realy and his ilk, not so sexy
ren says...This format sucks
The CBS Report has me in tears. How can anyone treat a child like this? Thank goodness for reporters like Lara Logan. I can't wait to see how BillO will try and spin this one.
BillO will say i respect journalists like Logan but,,,, she is a traitor and aiding the terrorists...
IE...I don't respect journalists,,,i just said that as the setup.....
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ren @ 20:
Yeah, for these reporters to not only have to look the ugly realities of the world square in the eye and report on them, that just isn't enough somehow, because you then also have to answer to assholes who disparage you and the awfully hard-won reporting you've done. That's some f*&^-ed up shit.
Thank God we still have journalists around like Lara Logan. She proves time and time again to be an asset. I'd love to see her on O'Reilly.
Poor Helen Thomas. She just slipped to #2 on the "Mrs. Cobwebhead" target list.
nevermore...
Lara could easily be home with her husband or her family and be like,"Well that shit in iraq is pretty fucked up, but I ain't going the fuck over there to report it and get my head sawed off for some broke dick story"
Yet she does go over there to report the truth......
I heard this story on Friday. The U.S. troops first thought they were all dead since they weren't moving at all. So they threw a basketball into the court yard. Only one kid raised his head and then laid down again.
Flies everywhere.
A stone-cold killer would've played it safe and tossed in a hand grenade. A sadist may have used a flash-bang. The simple act of tossing in a toy is so... decent.
Can't understand anybody in the U.S. military or government wanting to suppress this story. Unless someone's friend of a friend was involved with the orphanage.
Wow a real journalist!...This is what we need more of in coverage.
Laura Logan knows a reporters role so well she reminded me of Edward
R. Morrow himself. Her passion and commitment to telling this awful
story (in the face of political stone-walling) make her a hero.
As for Bill-O...he's is just another wing-nut talking head the farthest thing from
a real journalist. Truth is Laura's right it's stooping pretty low to take Bill-O
opinion on what should be and shouldn't be reported....
LOGAN: Well, I mean, with all due respect to Bill O’Reilly
This much: —>.<—
ren says....
There is a Meet the Press/Hillary post above...Yawn....
Hmmmm,,Lara Logan or Hillary...whom do i want to talk about more?
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One Of Those Feel Bad Stories
Well this did not end up in the update I got about our progress yesterday. I don't wonder why. I will ask the question: How much of this shit will we allow to continue without admitting we have made Iraq a total mess. CSPAN's Washington Journal had Gen. Mick Bednarek,who leads the Muti-national force in Iraq, on for an update on our latest offensives in in Diyala province. The Gen. was supposed to give an honest update, but what he gave reminded me of a carefully orchestrated question and answer session full of "canned" responses. I kept thinking of "Yankee Dottle Dandy" the whole time he spoke. The Journal, who is supposed to be the cream of the fair and balanced crop, only allowed 4 opposing views come through for questions.
One question concerned what percentage was actually Al Qaeda soldiers fighting in Diyala province. He never answered the question,and the host did not follow-up to make him. What he said was Al Qaeda is hidden within the insurgent ranks and the Iraqi people know it. All I could think of was, instead of "happy days are here again," "killing days are here again." The whole offensive amounts to a modern day killing field operation. So much for honesty.
Joseph
Joseph...you are thoughtful and well spoken..
cspan....i love a lot but like the do-do...and like npr......those days are fucking gone brother......
oooh,,the "Enablex" commercial is on again with the bouncy water-ballons that show as a metaphor bouncing bladders that can hold their urine....i love the drug industry....ps anyone see "Sicko" yet
Amazing. This isn't so much a report about a group of badly abused children being rescued, as it should have been. It's a story about a story - a story about the politicizing of a story, of attempts to stifle a story (for whatever reasons), of questioning the integrity of a reporter forced to defend reporting a story...
American MSM has now sunk so low we've reached the point where news has become the news. Extra! Extra! Journalist Reports News! Read All About It! - oh, and a bunch of kids were also rescued, by the way...
Disgusting.
I have not scene "Sicko" yet. Have You?
Will someone tell me what "MSM" means.
Tom Piltoff @ 27:
Jim @ 31:
You know as well as I do that he would cut her mic as soon as she didn't agree with his opinion.
Lara brings into focus so completely the circus clown role that the pundits and many other 'journalists' play. Not the least of which would be B.O. May God and Alah bless that woman, and keep her safe.
Joseph @ 40:
Mainstream Media
MSM = Main Stream Media
yes it was super good.....
Main Stream Media
Joseph @ 40:
MainStream Media, I think
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Sicko..was good for one reason more than any......It showed the human side of how fucked up our health care system is....he goes to Europe and shows their systems and it is day and knight...it is so embarrassing....
I already miss the little yellow thing at the bottom of Haloscan that told me how many posts were up...so i didn't need to refresh for no reason..."Those were the Days"
Jeannie See @ 41:
Or better yet, he doesn't have the balls to go up againt the Lara Logan's of the world (which there are few of :sad:).
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Not to sure about this new commenting section C&L.
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What the hell is that Jeannie?
I am not sure about the
"ren says"
"Jeannie says" crap....
The O'Reillys of the world are not interested in the 'collateral' aspects of their war, murdered children and women are a 'necessary', 'to be expected', effect of the 'war against evil'. It occurs to me that an unbiased 'god' would consider murdered children and women to be an evil, and the perpetrators an evil force.
And there should be a special hell for those who deliberately avoid the truth, and 'spin' the reality of war, in order to continue the evil on false pretenses.
Besides the evil of Bush/Cheney, another problem we have in this country is too many O'Reillys, too few Logans.
You have to stoop if you wish to converse with Rethuglicans.
If you find yourself accepting their arguments it means you have probably become stoopid.
Monday O'Reilly will be calling her a far, far, far, far, leftist with a liberal agenda and his reich-wing twit followers will be parroting is ratings as some sort of way to debunk her facts.
Got a feeling that mrs logan is gonna accidentally get hit by a abram's tank.
I vote for Lara Logan.
After the second world war and the annihilation of the Jewish people by millions, any other torture scenes is mere systematic desensitizaiton. People in reality cringe but are helpless to overcome the menace.
We have lost true patriotism of the past and entering a new era of despotism and communism.
This is a reminder to those who are running the show in the media. You are pandering to the enemy and are accomplice to the mass murder.
I agree with Lara Logan. Women are sensitive to children and this madness must be stopped.
PurplePatriot @ 10:
This person must be among the 41 percent of Americans who still mistakenly believe Saddam was responsible for 9/11 because they probably only watch Faux News. Actually, PP, 15 of the 9/11 terrorists were Saudi Arabians, two were from the United Arab Emirates and one each from Egypt and Lebanon. Yet not only has Bush not done anything to address the predominance of Saudis among these murderers, he even flew members of the Saudi royal family home a couple of days after the attacks. Bet you won't see any of THAT information on O'Reilly's joke of a propaganda show. Thanks to Lara Logan for pursuing and telling the truth. That's a true journalist.
I'm glad that so many of you are able to take comfort in Lara Logan's reporting of the Iraqi orphanage tragedy. However, one thing that I have learned since 9/11/01, is to take EVERYTHING that is reported by the "corporate" media with a grain of salt. Since it was disclosed that the Pentagon had "Psy-Ops" people operating in the newsroom of CNN shortly after 9/11, I have become more skeptical about anything that is presented to us as "news". The fact that Howie Kurtz is involved in this story makes it smell even worse. Why did Ms. Logan have so much trouble getting this story out and, more importantly, why was it ultimately approved? Are we being played again like we were with the Jessica Lynch story? Has the Pentagon or someone in the Iraqi military decided that this type of story will suit their political ends and therefore it needs to be told? I think Ms. Logan is to be commended for the important and dangerous work that she is doing in Iraq but as long as she is working for one of the organizations that helped get us involved in this mess, I regard her reporting with a skeptical mind.
Laura Bush and the twins: Get thee to Iraq and feed and clean those children. George's approval rating would probably go up a point or two.
Bill O'Rielly's name deserves no mention in the presence of Lara Logan. It's like setting out a bowl of magots next to a bottle of Remy Martin
This just made me cry. Our soldiers are so brave. I would have hung the director on the spot! I would have gladly faced the impending court marshall and prison sentence with joy!
The bravest American reporter (Logan) is from South Africa. Long way from Long Island, huh Billo? Figures.
Rufus,
Laura Bush is about to divorce Bush for his adultery and booze. LOL
Laura is humiliated by Condi Rice and G. Bush. Poor Laura has suffered enough than face a major battle in iraq.
Laura Logan is a goddess!
mr.ed @ 67:
The second bravest is from Australia. Michaeal Ware.
American journalism. MIA.
Lara Logan is a braver soul than Billy O any day.
Asked if he would like to do anything for these orphans Billy O said that he would send signed copies of his newest book"Cultural Warrior" to them as a deductable charitable donation.
Asked the same thing, Pat Robertson said that as soon as they can print out some Bibles he would also make a deductible charitable donation.
Oh, I am sooooo synical.
Good day!
It is very informative and has a very good quality in it.
I like it...
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War is not a good event it destroy lives and property
Thank you very much for your time.
OOPS! (cynical)
It is a tragedy that the children are treated like this.
Let's be real. It happens all over the world.
Including the USA.
This story was heartbreaking.
Thank goodness the US Army officers had the decency to throw the basketball to see if the children were alive or not.
I hope these children are now being clothed and fed and -help us - ready to be adopted by DECENT families!
As for the orphanage personnel - hanging is too good for them. How anyone can treat children this way is sadistic and disgraceful!
I guess Donald Rumsfield and the like will just dismiss this story as "stuff happens"!
Could someone please please please tell me when the bastards Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, Rice, Wolfowitz and the other architects of this illegal war are gonna be impeached??? I pray for the day that these mongrels are behind bars!
They are a blight on humanity!!!
She is the real deal, anyway she could deliver the news instead of the lightweight CBS has?
There goes that goddamn liberal media not reporting "good" stories on the war in Iraq again!
I feel really bad for her. I don't think she'll last too long being an honest journalist in this business. It's such a sad time that one man (ruppert murdock) can turn news into entertainment by forcing the laws of supply and demand onto it. And of course there is the chicken or egg question where americans demand more crap news because that's what they are being shown or is it because americans truly wanted it in the first place?
Lara Logan is SO hot. I love her and would watch an entire one hour show if she was the host.
I know that is a shallow thing to admit, but it is just human nature. She's incredibly hot.
The President and his cronies are terrible men. Let's remake the world once they are gone...
I saw this at the gym this morning, please, oh please, oh please C&L follow this one, I want to hear Dickhead O'Reilly's response to Lara. He's probably seething. To have a women show more balls and journalistic integrity....oh man, he's probably going to take it out on one of his poor interns. Hide the falafels, ladies. Comment section feels weird, but HEY! SPELL CHECK! WOO HOO!
Goodonya, Laura! It's about time someone stood up to the Fox propagandists and told them that news is news, not infotainment and diversion.
Parents who have their kids in harm's way, as well as taxpayers who want to know how their money is being spent, deserve to know the truth about what goes on in Iraq!
If Fox had it their way, people would be completely in the dark and just willingly hand their paychecks to Rupert Murdoch and their tax money to Washington, just like they do in other dictatorships.
Carter Admin, attraction is one of the most basic human elements and it is shared by all of the species on earch and is deeply embedded in our existence. It is far from "shallow" as without attraction there would be no life as we know it. So stop flogging yourself and embrace nature as God intended my friend....
Starwberry @ 79:
You forgot to spell check your name ''Starwberry'
:lol:
Miss Kitty, I just said it was cool they had spell check, not that I figured out how to use it yet. HaHa.
Holy Tamole, a RILF! Lara Olberman and the comedy central boys may be the only trusted members of the media these days.
If this is how the boys are treated . . . how are the girls being treated.
Lara Logan and her fake american accent cracks me up, notice how she switches between the two depending on wether she is speaking from the heart or speaking the media mantra.
that aside, what about the fate of the tens of thousands of newly crafted iraqi orphans that are being generated everyday of this ignorant war?
Doncha be messin' wit Lara, Gekke
Right on, Lara. But since you are too professional to do so let us say it: OReilly is not due any respect. He's a meddler. He and Hannity couldn't report on a traffic accident on the street in front of FOX News. When I see a real reporter- like I remember Dan Rather in the fox holes of Vietnam - then see these boys and lipped gloss blonds sitting on their behinds in a studio bubble pontificating and claiming their changing the world, I wish I could......just....I want to see if ONE Disparaging word crosses their lips about this courageous young woman or legends like Helen Thomas who dare to ask the questions I want answered.
Oh, Geke #86
It's amazing to me that the first response that you wanted to share with the world is to make an issue out of nothing!
FdeBear @ 89:
that aside, what about the fate of the tens of thousands of newly crafted iraqi orphans that are being generated everyday of this ignorant war?
is this nothing?
I don't think you're really interested. I think you stated your true concern first.
FdeBear @ 91:
maybe a site better suited too your needs, go to www.isuklimbaugh.com ;)
She reminds me of Dan Rather and Ed Bradley over in Nam.
And I love her take on Billo.
The people like her are the ones who will get our boys out.
And they are the ones we will be watching for years to come.
The lapdogs of this administration will - as during Nam - soon
need to find jobs elsewhere.
Unless Cheney wins with his plan for total clampdown.
That's just it. Agnew never had this much power and the media
in total never showed this much cowardice.
And we never had a network like Fox, who would have identified Jesus Christ as a Far-Left radical.
uncle joe mccarthy @ 13:
Don't you know the proper term of the day?? It's not goddess, it's NILF
The DAILY SHOW / Samantha Bee:
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I'll take the orphans over the blastocysts. Sanctity of human life, indeed.
"Thank God we didn't let these children down," the social worker says. "We leave our own families to look after these kids. If we find one of them upset, we try to talk to them as if we were the parents." Six-year-old Sayif (ph) agrees. He says the orphanage is like a new home to him and the staff are almost like parents. Sayif (ph) is a talented singer. He often sings for his new friend at the safe house, songs about God and the prophets and of hope for a better future. -- CNN Transcript from April 8th, this year on Iraq's orphans.
Lara Logan's Iraqi Orphans report was a very good report. It exposes the American public the cold harsh realites of what going in Iraq. These innocent children haven't done anything wrong and they have to suffer for it. We have to do our jobs to protect the innocent and vunerable in the world. That by itself is the true sancticty of life the culture of life if you want to call this . In war, the major causualty besides the truth is the innocent.
The Bill O'Reilly's of the world may not concern themselves of not showing the bad and shitty things of the war to keep the image that all is well in Iraq and to make Bush and the Crime Family look good. But as Logan stated its ridiculous to keep blasting the rare reports like this in the MSM while in War. Bill O and other live in an alternate universe than we do. Remember this: There has never been a "good" war. While in war there is the good, the bad, the ugly and the really shitty to constantly remind us that War has a profound effect on those involved and how it affects their lives and livelyhoods after the bulletts stop flying. Bill O and his friends over at POX Spews can afford living in La-La land but we can't
Children suffer for our mistakes
Below is a link to an essay "Chernobyl Legacy"
When you get to picture #23, brace yourself it gets bad.
http://todayspictures.slate.com/chernobyl/
Click on interactive essay and menu is on right side of window.
PurplePatriot @ 10:
9/11 avenged? What? Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11 or are you still being spoon fed that shit by your US TV stations? Ignorant idiot.
Reality has a Liberal bias.
Lara Logan is a wonderful human being and a fine journalist.
I am a regular viewer of CBS news because of her fine reporting.
We need more journalists like Ms. Logan reporting on all issues. Besides being dedicated and passionate, Lara Logan is teh hotness!
It can't be said enough...Ms. Logan IS a true journalist...and I too am in love with this brave articulate woman!
Part of my training for military service was to view the horribly graphics of Holocaust victims in WWII. (And some say the extermination did not happen - 5 million people in ethinic groups and 6 million Jews) One was one too many. When I saw the pictures of those naked boys, I immediately thought of the WWII victims - a war my father fought in. I cried for those boys. I cry for the beautiful young people we lose every day in Iraq. In fact, I cry every day now. Thanks George Walker Bush.
I find OReilly thing funny. Reporting helps the terrorists? No, what helps the terrorists is the fact that Bush let them win.
The object of terrorism, as I've said before, is to use violence or the threat of violence to affect political change in a group. In this case the group was the United States. Now that we're in a 'post 9/11 world' where the Constitution doesn't matter anymore, whether you're American or not, I'd say that they'd gotten precisely what they wanted. For the US to turn upon itself and destroy the institutions that we've held up for two hundred plus years.
[...] Damn That Bill O’Reilly Sucks [...]
she surely has got "Thatchers"
btw: this new commenting tool slows my machine up badly. I like the clearer structure, however. Maybe I should do something to my seven year old computer.
Michell and Laura are so darned maod at you Lara.
Bless their little girl panties and tiny little hearts.
Why? Because you are on your way to an anchors
job at CBS or a permanent spot on 60 mins.
You are doing a great job where you are
but you cannot stay there. Do you hear?
Please, isnt there something that can be done for these children, some aide, something, anything!! It is shattering to see what horror man is capable of. Is no agency that can help them at all?
irkthesmirk @ 63:
Not ready to be that cynical (yet).
I agree that you have to check everything. But Laura has been a pretty straight shooter in the past.
The Bush administration does want to get rid of the Maliki government because they aren't going along with the production sharing agreements (oil) like they wanted. So it does help Bush to stain the Iraqi government like this.
That being said; in Iraq, as screwed up as it is, it's very likely that sad travesties go on like this.
I can't stand it... but people need to look at these pictures and start remembering "this is war." It isn't glorious explosions in the sky, and troops meeting bravely for battle. It's a cluster bomb hitting a school. It's displacement and anarchy. It's orphans who have lost their parents and now see a world that doesn't care about them.
My kids are lucky and they were born in a good family. But these could have been my kids. Curled up on a floor, with nobody to care for them, waiting to starve to death. I doubt they are worried about that... life is probably a burden and a torment.
Our troops are also decent people, when they aren't going Rambo and full of PR. That's why I trust Army troops on ideas about war than people in the Air Force and Navy. This is one of those times that they get to understand what happens in war, and you never want one unless you have no choice.
The orphanage situation sounds very much like this country back in the twenties and thirties. Back in the seventies I worked in a Nursing Home that had a large group of mentaly retarded, physically hadicapped, Downs Syndrome, you name it. I was in Highschool at the time. Best job I ever had believe it or not. Anyhow, one of the patients there (Don D.) had both ankles turned in at right angles, he was wheelchair bound. I asked him what had happened to his feet. Seems one of the "orderlies" at the old St. Peter State Hospital (Minnesota) Didn't like Don and once when Don didn't do something he wanted, he broke both of his ankles and left him lying in a shower room for a week or so. Other patients confirmed this story, and had stories of their own, as St. Peters was a large facility and lots of these people had been there at one time or another. Watch your state government, if they continue to NOT fund nursing homes, they will simply warehouse people as they did back then.....
while visiting fort bragg this week, the fayetteville observer ran this story as the soldiers discovering this were from the 325 Airborne infantry Regiment.
Local soldiers stated they seen a lot of folks with birth defects, down syndrome, etc as a side affect of the intermarriage within the tribes.
The tying up, caging, and warehousing of the genetically sick is an approach based on lack of resources, training, cultural acceptance, and ignorance.
They use the same techniques developed at the Bedlam sanitorium from the 1800s
I :heart: Lara Logan.
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