Countdown: When All Else Fails Rudy Blames Bill Clinton
By Logan Murphy Wednesday Jun 27, 2007 1:15pm
Rudy Giuliani spoke at Pat Robertson's Regent University recently and proclaimed Bill Clinton was to blame for not going after Osama Bin Laden and doing more to fight terrorism after the 1993 bombing of the WTC. America's Mayor conveniently forgot to mention that unlike George Bush, under Bill Clinton, the people responsible for that bombing were captured, prosecuted and jailed for their crimes. On Wednesday's "Countdown" Keith Olbermann brought in Wayne Barrett, Senior Editor of The Village Voice and co-author of the book, Grand Illusion, who points out that after the 93 bombings Giuliani didn't do a thing to make the WTC or the city safer from terrorism.








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Rudy Tootie...........Nazi
America’s Mayor conveniently forgot to mention that unlike George Bush, under Bill Clinton, the people responsible for that bombing were captured, prosecuted and jailed for their crimes.
That is exactly what I yelled at the tv when I heard this.
Bubba got his perps, and hauled their ass to court and jail.
Guilianni was before 9-11 too. I he holds Bubba at fault, he also has to hold himself.
I'm sure Guilliani goes to confession alot for that last one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTneO6UgRuM
Whatever... Ghouliani is liar and a fascist, is this a surprise?
I like how he conveniently forgot that W had a memo cross his desk warning of the plot...
Here's what i sent Keith:
Keith,
I'm so sick of GOPers attacking anyone regarding Bin Laden. Who created this beast in the first place? Would you please do a segment devoted to giving the GOP an history lesson.
Bin Laden is the result of Ronald Reagan and George Bush senior funding the mujahideen Muslim guerrillas fighting the Soviet Union in Afghanistan. Got that! He exists as a side effect of past GOPer foreign policy mistakes. We can only imagine the future rewards we'll get for the current lot of GOPer foreign policy disasters.
It fills me with delight that the man who got NYC's emergency bunker (the only way the firefighters—equipped with the no-bid radios he bought them that didn't work—could have been gotten out on time) destroyed because he insisted on building it in the same complex that was attacked in 1993 to do a favor for a campaign donor...
thinks someone else didn't learn the lesson of 1993.
Day after day people ruminate over these MSM pronouncements and wonder what it all means. It all means NOTHING. IT'S MEANT TO CONFUSE YOU!
Rudy Giuliani or Vampire Ghouliani?
What a toad.
He is all mixed up in his sexuality and his grasp of facts.
He skipped over the fact that Clinton left plans on what to do with bin Laden. chimpy refuses to find his friend bin Laden.
How can repugs get away with destroying the US?
nancy get a move on!
repugs the slime of the earth.
Of course, it's all Clinton's fault: 9/11, Katrina, the Tsunami, Watergate, and global warming--uh, wait, no, global warming is not real, is a myth, like evolution. Never mind. Stay the course.
Rudy? Shut up....Just shut the fuck up.... Bill Clinton this, and Bill Clinton that... That boogieman story might fly with a bunch of troglydytes at a place like Pat Robertson U... But it doesn't work in the 'real' world... you're an idiot Rudy......JD
Rudy also conveniently forgets that when Clinton tried to killed Osama, the Republicans were screaming "Wag the Dog" the whole time.
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I've asked this at least a thousand times of the right-wingnuts yet they never answer; what did Bush do in his first nine months that could be considered as fighting terrorism? The Republicans didn't care at all if we were attacked (and they absolutely knew something was coming). The Republicans spent the last two years of Clinton's Presidency caring more about a stained dress than defending our nation. Maybe Clinton could have done more, but the Republicans did nothing (positive).
Rudy:
Dress up like Judy and stay in the race we're all pulling for you Can't imagine an easier repugnaton to beat and with this group of losers that's saying something
The power of the Clinton Presidency is amazing 6 yrs. later they still invoke his name when they need to try wiggling out of some crap heap they've created
Clinton also had no advance warning of any imminent attacks unlike boosh's PDB entitled, "'Bin Laden Determined to Attack Inside the United States."
Smack_dab @ 15:
Mostly he cut counterterrorism out of his budget proposals because he wanted to concentrate on missile systems.
This sums up who are the only ones left supporting Giuliani.
Im was also suprised to see that Giuliani wont be speaking at another upcoming event... the other political front group ..under the guise of religious values. --> The Family Research Council ( remember them --> Justice Sunday )
Currently FRC is also smearing Michael Moore front page... http://www.frc.org
Presenting the Oct. 19 FRC cast...
Dr. James Dobson
Newt Gingrich
Tony Perkins
Sean Hannity
Dr. Richard Land
Chuck Colson
Laura Ingraham
Rabbi Daniel Lapin
Gary Bauer
Phyllis Schlafly
Tony Snow
Dr. Bill Bennett
Alan Sears
Jim Daly
Sen. Mitch McConnell
Ken Blackwell
John Fund
Myrna Blyth
Ted Baehr
Father Frank Pavone
Judge Robert Bork
Michelle Malkin
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When all else fails, blame Clinton. Desperation must be a b*tch, Rudy.
Sounds like he took a page right out of Bill Bennett's play book, the one that custom officials recently mistook for scat porno from Germany. Ole' Rudy might want to turn the rhetoric nozzle dopwn a hair, otherwise he may end up garnering as much respect and GOP authoritative B.O. as Bill. You know about Bill, don't you?
Bill Bennett is used to the skull f-ing monotony. Now fully engaged as captain of a New Zealand commercial chumming boat, he's accustomed to spending months at a time afloat in the Antarctic Ocean, staring at-well, nothing. "Just ice really, lots and lots of ice," said Bennett recently. "Sometimes, not even a seabird or an increasingly growing mass of jetsam and flotsam that threatens South America and other ports o' call." On a particularly calm day in late January, Bennett was tending to a recurring problem with getting his Johnson caught in the various hooks, lures, and fishing lines of his tackle box, each one 2,000 meters long (nearly a mile and a quarter), and sporting up to 10,000 baited hooks, in hopes of a major mud Shark haul, since being ungracellesly dumped by his once loyal party. Suddenly, the calm was shattered-by the sight of a colossal brown squid surfacing and squirting inky fishy smelling splooge, buckets full, near the stern and upon his legendary Cro-Magnon protruding brow. The beast, a 33-foot-long adult male weighing half a ton, had wrapped itself around Bennett's pecker. "It was just this great big brown shape, tha' pecker was, and tha' homer squid wrapped his qwar tentacles 'round it," recalls Bennett, who was watching from the bridge, still pissed about getting nailed for gambling. "It came up right alongside my inseam. Everyone was yelling and screaming - including the ladies." One must take this last statement with a grain of salt, as anyone getting busted for losing extravagent amounts of money playing a pussy gambling device like a slot machine has a tendancy to exagerate in order to attract the ladies. Poor lonely Bill preety much pounds his pud like it owes him money, just like Ralph Reed.
Rudy! It's not too late! Don't let this fate happen to you!
Thanks Sitemonitor
Hey everybody:
Love C&L, the replies, and arguments, but this is preaching to the choir. NOW is the time for everybody here to go to conservative blogs and post fair and balanced (sorry, couldn't resist) replies to their crap. Guiliani is a great example, when he goes out and says something so incredibly stupid as to blame Clinton for his failures. Go to Redstate, go to Blogs for Bush, go to any conservative blog... just go and start fighting back!
We cannot let them get away with this BS!
Yeah, I remember how Bill Clinton sat in that elementary school classroom on that horrible Tuesday, eyes glazed over in pathetic cluelessness, listening to children read a book about a goat. Then, instead of rallying the country, Bill Clinton was whisked off to his hidey-hole to change his drawers and plan a war against Iraq, who hadn't attacked us. Which created more terrorists than Osama could have imagined in his wildest dreams. And Bill Clinton fucked up the whole Iraq adventure to boot. Damn that Bill Clinton.
J² @ 25:
They either require special sign in protocols or delete the comments. I know, I've tried.
links don't work!!!
Rudy has also apparently forgotten that it was his decision to move the emergency command center to the WTC. After '93, because that made so much sense.
I couldn't download the video either.
Anyway,Rudy did everything he could to fight evil in NY pre-9/11.
He simply recognized "evil" as "homeless" and "black".
Perhaps I am forgetful but was Bin Laden ever considered to be part of the 93 WTC bombings? I know that they were Arab terrorists involved, but don't recall Bin Laden being directly involved. He didn't really come into the picture until 1999. I recall there being some links perhaps, but that is about it. The obvious point is that despite this Rudy then decided to put the emergency services in the same building, but I think it got this a bit mixed up.
Am I wrong on this?
pinkobait @ 30:
And porn.
ysbaddaden @ 32:
And pee smell.
Is anyone else getting totally fed up with this crap? Honest to Christ! What the hell's it gonna take to get these frickin' reptiles to accept ownership of the bollocks they've made of the U.S. and the world?! They're like a bunch of school children... losers every single one of these bastards willing to point the finger at someone else.
Enough already! Grow up and accept responsibility for your lies, corruption, and assorted bullshit!
It's a damn shame to realize that the GOP thinks so little of the average American's intelligence. Even worse, most of the time it's a fairly accurate assessment, and most certainly with their base.
I AM SOOOOO GLAD THAT RUDY IS CONFRONTING PIAPS AND CLINTOON WITH THE TRUTH!!!!!!!
[Your last name isn't Wiggums, by chance?]
RALPH @ 36:
Did you create that fine site all by yourself?
You just have to laugh.
Put your finger back in your nose Ralph, and wet yourself, while breaking your Wookie.
"Ralph" is another way of saying vomit, puke, upchuck, etc. How fitting
draw a sqaure under ghouliani's nose and see how well it fits.
Which one is Ralph, and which the Anti-Ralph?
http://www.5bayside.com/images/celebs/Ralph_Malph_B.jpg
Or:
http://www.petitionspot.com/uploads/617-simpsons_warpresident.jpg
RALPH @ 36:
Ouch
Ralph, thanks for the link to your site. The comments were some of the funniest I've read in a while.
RALPH @ 36:
Skillful photoshopping, too. :eyesroll:
Smack_dab @ 15:
TO: #15 Smack_dab.
I'll go even further, what did the bush administration do after receiving a presidential daily briefing entitled "Bin Laden determined to attack inside the U.S.,"?!?!?!?!?
Did he do one single thing? Did he warn the airlines to tighten security? Did he warn any of the major cities to be on the lookout? Did he ask the FBI or CIA for any bit of information they could provide? Did he do ANYTHING?!?!?!?!?!? ...or was he just too busy clearing brush?
[Deleted. Goodbye, Ralph.]
adolf ghouliani @ 45:
And in spite of everything cited above, Busholini was "re-elected"!
"Saint Rudy of 9/11" - Great line.
RALPH @ 46:
Hey Genius, what did your lord and saviour Ronald Reagan do in Lebanon after the Marine barracks were bombed and over 200 of our bravest were slaughtered???
HE CUT AND RAN, you typical hypocritical troll.
Hey Rudy:
Get any of your constituents killed lately?
I mean, besides the 3,000 you got killed on 9/11.
Actually the 9-11 Report told how Clinton destroyed the last of the Al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan. This was dismissed as wag the dog or trying to distract us from more important things like his personal life. Al Qaeda had no training camps after that until boosh left a power vacuum in Iraq, where they have regrouped where they were before then.
Sorry, where they WEREN'T before then.
ysbaddaden @ 51:
I'm afraid we're wasting our collective breath on the brainless souls of the republic (or troll) persuasion. EVERYTHING is Clinton's fault.
You know Rudy, one day you're going to have to realize that we record and film this shit.
RALPH:
Live in the present. we can't do anything about Clinton now can we. But we can take action about where we are now.
There must be some sort of theory that when the right was their back against the wall they start talking about Clinton like that means ANYTHING. Ralph you like being lied to by your heroes, our current administration. Go read "My Pet Goat", just like your hero does every night before he gets tucked in by Uncle Cheney.
miss_kitty @ 44:
I liked the comment that told Ralph that even somebody who sucks at Photoshop should have enough sense not to paste a woman's head on a man's body.
[Deleted. 9/11 conspiracy is not the topic of the thread]
Dr. James Dobson
Newt Gingrich
Tony Perkins
Sean Hannity
Dr. Richard Land
Chuck Colson
Laura Ingraham
Rabbi Daniel Lapin
Gary Bauer
Phyllis Schlafly
Tony Snow
Dr. Bill Bennett
Alan Sears
Jim Daly
Sen. Mitch McConnell
Ken Blackwell
John Fund
Myrna Blyth
Ted Baehr
Father Frank Pavone
Judge Robert Bork
Michelle Malkin
Man, I love that list. Cue the carnival music, it's gonna be like a freakshow midway.
ScrewBush @ 5:
Actually the Carter Administration, under the guiding hand of Zbigniew Brzezinski started it...
Or even more factually, our permanent Government behind the scenes, of which the CIA is a tentacle of, did most of the creating of Al Queada..
Sure RayGun, accelerated it in a RAMBOESQUE fashion... even cutting deals
Fact of the matter is we have a much bigger problem then the typical Left/Right paradigm...
The faster Liberals wake up to that fact the better...i (as Liberals being a tad sharper and more open minded it is usually easier...albeit they are even more vulnerable to the GREED virus then Conservatives... who are "Greedaholics")...
Total Vigilance is required of each of you... no more lazy knee jerk partisanship...
Can you do it?
I think recent history should already show that most Democrats are no better then most Republicans...
rduke @ 59:
The word is "than" not "then".
And, I LOVE IT when the righties try to cozy up to progressives only to decry that the Dems are "just as bad" as the republics -- a summation comprised of a whole six months' worth of the new congressional sesison.
My point in the post was in reference to the topic of terrorism
and the unaswered questions that the 911 Families still have.
Including the questions they have for Guliani.
I also made a a simple reference on topic
of Guliani - and who is funding his presidential run.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/search_donor.asp
The soul of our country is at stake and all americans
need to have a forthright and honest discussion.
Doc Acula;
Yes indeed, not much in the way of a ligitimate response to those marines, (I believe it was 241, but that was a long time ago)...deaths at the time... in Lebanon.. However, I gotta say, that Reagan policies is probably responsible for what did happen next... The U.S. navy got all up in arms and started fucking with....
wait for it, its a tried and true formula for neocon trogs..
We decided to fuck with Quadaffi,
You remember him even if I didnt' spell the name right.. He used to be the boogieman to the U.S. before the new and improved boogieman, Saddam whatisname.. Yep, we crossed that 'line of death' before it was even a line of death... Back then it was just another longitude line on a meritime navigation map... So we sent our jets out to play footies with the Libyans... Now think about that.. Marines killed in Lebenon, so we go after Libya and fuck with them...
Sound familier as a strategy???... Well, it's a fact that summer, I was there, haze gray and underway................JD
Actually the FBI cooked the bomb in 93, it seems like it was a sting operation gone wrong, VERY WRONG, they had an informant in the terror group who was given real explosives to give to the terrorists.I know this sounds likea crazy conspiracy theory but it's actually mainstream news which if you can be bothered to research you would find, no doubt i'll be called a "nut" etc for even suggeting such a thing.
I suppose the MK ULTRA experimnts didn't exist either ? even though the CIA have just admitted in with therelease of there "family jewels".
I've always felt Rudy was the most disgusting person on the planet... wasn't 9-11 under HIS "watch"? Look, terrorism is going to happen, and there's not much we can do about it... but he's a fear-mongerer, and people buy into it. He can't do anything about terrorism... and it just gets boring hearing about it with his "tough talk", like ONLY he can protect us. Terrorism should NOT be an issue in this election. What an asshole. And all the rest of his scandals/baggage (mob ties, crack dealer campaign heads, fake catholicism with multiple wives, the son that won't talk to him, and on and on).... well, the guy is a dick.
ALL rethugs are fearmongers -- what else can they run on? The economy? Jobs? Diplomacy?
NO, NO, and NO!
I am not a religious person but I am praying daily for a tsunami or something to hit during that FRC event.
Look at that list. Now if we could just get Coulter in the audience God just might do something about it.
It's always safe to blame the Clintons. Sheeeet, what would they do if they didn't have the Clintons to blame??
Vote Republican in "08.
Let them finish the job they started.
Sometimes you have to tear a thing down before you can build it back up.
This is what really pisses me off about Rudy's current bullshit. He always opens with the USS Cole crap and says Clinton did nothing, yet it is now a matter of public record that confirmation of who actually did the strike didn't come until six days after Bush had become President.
The Repugs also howled and jumped up and down like a band of monkeys when Clinton did the missle strikes in Afghanistan and Somalia. So first they cry that he did too much and then they try to claim he didn't do enough.
Truth is they were too busy spinning plots about how to dismantle the checks and balances of our Republic to pay attention to the warnings about Al Qaeda they did receive.
excerpt from wikipedia and 9/11 commission report:
"Both the Clinton Administration and the Bush Administration have been criticized for failing to respond militarily to the attack on the USS Cole before September 11, 2001. The 9-11 Commission Report cites one source who said in February 2001, "[bin Laden] complained frequently that the United States had not yet attacked [in response to the Cole]... Bin Ladin wanted the United States to attack, and if it did not he would launch something bigger."[10]
Evidence of al-Qaeda's involvement was inconclusive for months after the attack. The staff of the 9-11 Commission found that al-Qaeda's direction of the bombing was under investigation but "increasingly clear" on November 11, 2000. It was an "unproven assumption" in late November. By December 21 the CIA had made a "preliminary judgment" that "al Qaeda appeared to have supported the attack," with no "definitive conclusion."[11]
Accounts thereafter are varied and somewhat contradictory.
Then-National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice told the Commission that when the administration took office on January 20, 2001, "We knew that there was speculation that the 2000 Cole attack was al Qaeda... We received, I think, on January 25th the same assessment [of al-Qaeda responsibility]. It was preliminary. It was not clear."
Newsweek reported that on the following day, "six days after Bush took office," the FBI "believed they had clear evidence tying the bombers to Al Qaeda."[12] The Washington Post reported that, on February 9, Vice President Dick Cheney was briefed on bin Laden's responsibility "without hedge."[13]
These conclusions are contrasted by testimony of key figures before the 9/11 Commission, summarized in the 9/11 Commission Report. Former CIA Director George Tenet testified (page 196) that he "believed he laid out what was knowable early in the investigation, and that this evidence never really changed until after 9/11."[14] The report suggests (pages 201 - 202) that the official assessment was similarly vague until least March of 2001:
On January 25, Tenet briefed the President on the Cole investigation. The written briefing repeated for top officials of the new administration what the CIA had told the Clinton White House in November. This included the "preliminary judgment" that al Qaeda was responsible, with the caveat that no evidence had yet been found that Bin Ladin himself ordered the attack... in March 2001, the CIA's briefing slides for Rice were still describing the CIA's "preliminary judgment" that a "strong circumstantial case" could be made against al Qaeda but noting that the CIA continued to lack "conclusive information on external command and control" of the attack.[14]
According to Dr. Rice, the decision not to respond militarily to the Cole bombing was President Bush's. She said he "made clear to us that he did not want to respond to al Qaeda one attack at a time. He told me he was 'tired of swatting flies.'" The administration instead began work on a new strategy to eliminate al-Qaeda.[15]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Cole_bombing
I apologize for bringing up Ralph (from above) again, but I just visited his blog and the guy's clearly a satirist like Jesus' General, but WAY more OTT. Haven't laughed that hard in a while.
What a prick! He was low-rated mayor of NYC the day the WTC was deliberately decimated via controlled demolition. He was too busy getting a bikini wax to play kissy face with the Donald in his prettiest dress to even evacuate the twin towers after the first plane hit the south tower. Those folks never had a chance. He even noted to one reporter in broadcast interview that those towers were coming down. Then, he stood around, cupping his crotch, pissing himself, watching 3000+ people die with every other bystander. Sure, Bernard Kerrick led Rotten Rudy around a couple blocks by one arm for that photo-op of him wearing his little mask in the rubble. But, he did nothing after that beyond cheerlead. As if that were not bad enough, he went on to goad that EPA dimwit Christine Todd-Whitman into telling rescue workers, remediation teams, employees, and inhabitants that Ground Zero was safe enough for a HUMAN return just to salvage the remaining days of the post Labor Day tourist season. To date, Rotten Rudy has done NOTHING beyond parrot the GOP 9/11 talking points in that fear-mongering way using as many Armageddon signs and wonders as he can borrow from Falwell and LaHaye. That alone qualifies Count Rudy the rotten for the DEATH Penalty followed by immediately by hell.
IT WAS GEORGE W. BUSH WHO FAILED TO RESPOND TO THE BOMBING OF THE USS COLE!!!! Why do these guys get a free pass from the media when they offer up this prevarication? Besides, had Bush pursued OBL during the first part of his term instead of negotiating with the Taliban for a trans-Afghanistan oil pipeline, it's possible the 9/11 attacks would have been disrupted.
He's a bigger gangster than Bush. Surely no one would vote for him. But.... (just look at America now)
It's official. Rudy is a gigantic asshat.
i resent the fact that this man (guliani) gets paid to do speaking tours, he is an idiot, and people pay for him to speak publically!! or in this case are willing to listen to him for free.. please tell me how his message is in anyway enlightened..
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Someone should check out why all of Rudy's ex-wives turned lesbian apres-marriage to him?
Is he gonna blame that on Clinton, too?
And which one, Bill or Hillary?
Awwwwww---shit! There's a scratch in my left front fender. And it's raining. And the air-conditioner is on the fritz. Must be Clinton's Fault!
Wake up, Rudy-doody! After 6 years of rule by idiots and total failure by same, who's to blame for the way things are NOW??? YOU___DAT'S WHO!!!
Wow. Blaming Clinton never gets old, does it?
A few months ago, I believe Giuliani defended Clinton's policies on terrorism, said not to blame him. Well, so much for that.
A lesser known ancestor of Rudy is the artist Richard Upton Pickman.
Love that picture of Ghouliani! Captured perfectly.
Oh, hell, Clinton will be blamed for climate change, the civil war in Iraq, the genocide in Darfur, the heavy rains in Texas and the drought in California, Paris Hilton only spending a few days in jail. He'll probably get blamed if Cheney shoots someone else in the face. "It's all Clinton's fault."
I guess it would be to childish, nay, evil, to wish for him a return of his cancer ?
[...] http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/0…-bill-clinton/ [...]
So "all" the people involved in the WTC bombings were jailed, and Clinton took care of it? By this logic, we shouldn't be after Osama, since he didn't actually fly one of the planes into a tower. 9/11 shouldn't have even happened, since Clinton solved the problem. Maybe we shouldn't have done anything about 9/11, since all the perpetrators killed themselves in the act, and called it a day. No survivors to prosecute. Is that what you folks are suggesting?
Many of you folks really have no concept of the mindset some of these so-called "Muslims" have. As Golda Mier said “We will have peace with the Arabs when they love their children more than they hate us”. The people you think we should "negotiate" with just simply do not value their life in the same manner as you do - they would willingly die in order to kill you, and be praised as a martyr for doing so. Their faith (or brain-washing, depending on your view) is that deeply rooted.
I don't blame Clinton for everything, but he did drop the ball (more than once: 2 WTC bombings, barracks in Beruit, UUS Cole, etc) on this issue. Syria offered Osama to Clinton when they had him in custody. Why didn't Clinton take them up on it?
viva la revolution
Turk Meister @ 72:
Absolutely true, Bill Clinton left office before 9/11
rage @ 71:
and so is this lame brained bush regime
Whatever @ 86:
But you are a fucking expert.
I'm going to let Clinton speak for himself on this exact issue:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIiUFfP4FBM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_7btZ1cucM
Bill Clinton tempted Eve to eat the Forbidden Fruit!
His.
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