Press Release by C&L concerning Brent Bozell's attack on Elizabeth Edwards
MRC issued a press release and I'd like to respond.
Brent Bozell should look close to home when he defends the vile Ann Coulter, who as we all know, speaks for Republicans. When it comes to ugliness and hatefulness, there is nothing that matches Coulter and he knows this all too well. The conservative magazine---the NRO had to fire Ann because of her repulsive columns:
Two weeks after penning a column calling for the United States to respond to terrorists by "invad[ing] their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity," the conservative commentator has been fired by National Review Online.
Apparently, that is appropriate political discourse for the MRC. Rush Limbaugh was the first recipient of the Annual William F. Buckley Award for Media Excellence and I guess they forgot how he made fun of Michael J. Fox's illness (I broke the story on C&L) which angered many families that were touched by Parkinson's and helped propel Claire McCaskill to an upset victory in the Senate---so why am I not surprised that they find Coulter's hate-filled character assasinations to their liking? (here's a list of other great Limbaugh moments.)
Brent writes that it's all a great liberal plot to silence conservative voices, but that is not the case. Elizabeth just asked Ann to tone down the rhetoric, but the MRC tries to spin it into a debate about the Fairness Doctrine, which was a government regulation by the FCC. It was discovered in 2004 that Brent Bozell's group called the PTC filed 99.8% of all complaints to the FCC. Read Jeff Jarvis': "The shocking truth about the FCC: Censorship by the tyranny of the few." Jarvis also lists a litany of frivious complaints filed by the PTC.
The Republicans can't compete in a creative environment so they try to stop free expression, and then accuse us of what they're always doing. It's laughable that Bozell would be so worried about regulation of free speech and government control when he has used it at every turn.
And if he was being honest, he would admit that Elizabeth Edwards merely called in and asked Coulter to stop using personal attacks which lowers the bar of political debate in this country. Is he trying to say that Republicans think it's acceptable to wish death by terrorist attack on a presidential candidate?
Edwards: If she wants to debate on issues...on positions---we certainly disagree with nearly everything she said on your show today, but it's quite another matter for these personal attacks...the things she's said over the years---not just about John---about other candidates----it lowers our political dialogue pricely at the time when we need to raise it. So I want to use the opportunity which I don't get much...Ann and I don't hang out with the same people...to ask her politely....stop the personal attacks.
Coulter made fun of the death of Elizabeth Edwards' son in a vicious column and all she did was ask her to stop. I guess in Bozell's mind that's tantamount to an attack. Brent Bozell's attack on John's wife is just another example of conservative whining that has no basis in facts. I challenge Bozell to watch or listen to the exchange again and tell me where Edwards attacked Coulter? I doubt he will respond. <snark>
Brent Bozo Bozell and Ann the Man Coulter are miserable excuses for human beings, and one cannot help but wonder how in the hell they ever became so vicious and vile. Both Bozell and Coulter will rot in hell.
Who in the hell is Brent Bozell?
The vile ann coulter should be referred to as "republican party spokesperson" in all cases and at all times.
Boswell cannot even spell assassination. A 'journalist' who doesn't know how to use Spellcheck? Rethuglicans can dish it out, but they CAN'T TAKE IT!!! WATB.
Why do Republican mouth-pieces like Coulter equate a request for civility and no use of hate speech in political discourse to a ban on their right to speak? It must be because they view everything they say is hate speech. It's simple logic.
OK, call 'em out on it but, c'mon, these rightwinger publiciy whores are creeps and as disgusting as their remarks and opinions are we have to be much more concerned with the way the administration has stacked the courts (from low-level to District to SCOTUS) with loyal, delusional rightwingers. THAT is where our lives will be truly affected for years or decades to come. It's frightening.
"The Republicans can’t compete in a creative environment so they try to stop free expression, and then accuse us of what they’re always doing."
That pretty much sums up the Republican pundits and Republican politicians perfectly. Just go on a conservative blog, they block you or delete your comment so you don't interrupt their hate spewing fest that consists of blaming everyone except their policy makers (who have been in charge for the past 8 years) and spreading hateful lies.
He's doing just what Ann tried to do. You can't defend what ann says so instead change the subject and try to make it sound like Elizabeth was demanding censorship. Sad try and it won't work. Facts are facts and in this day when everything is on tape anyone trying to make it something is wasn't just looks pathetic and desperate. We know the routine and we aren't buying.
Its like a surge on that crap site to come to the defense of Coulter.
Why pay any attention to Bozell? He's an absolute nobody.
Before Mrs. Edwards came on Mr. Coulter called for the killing of innocent people....as long as they are not ours. What a great Christian pro life attitude.
There is no excuse for what ann said. If she believes what she said, she shouldn't allow anyone to try to excuse her words. She should stick by her guns. She sure as hell shouldn't try to play the victim if she said what she meant.
Anyone trying to make her the victim is also trying to gloss over her original words. There's not enough wax on earth to cover the meaness she spews.
You ever seen a 3 year old cuss?
know what happens? the adults in the room think its funny, they laugh, the kid catches on that its funny. So next time the kid needs some attention, and they arent getting it, that kid is gonna cuss again. get what Im saying? this lady is a child that has been conditioned to spout whatever hate she can come up with so she might be validated.
I have never, ever wanted to put a bullet through someone's head before.
Until I saw Ann Coulter.
I sure as hell don't want to silence her. Let her keep right on talking. If someone wants to listen to her, fine by me. Each time she opens her mouth she makes her party look more and more cruel and foolish. If the Repubs like her as their mascot, I'm okay with that. She's not the person I would choose to represent me, but if they like her let them have her. I don't think she's exactly a plus for their party and I have a feeling a lot of Repubs don't either.
BRING BACK THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE.
The wingers want Dems to run from the Fairness Doctrine, but before Reagan removed it, the required presence of rebuttal on public broadcast channels WOULD HAVE STOPPED MUCH OF THE LIES LEADING TO THE IRAQ INVASION.
And that's a good thing. Why should public broadcasters be free to lie incessantly as if that fulfills their (FCC) licence duty to serve the public good?
Cable/Sat/Internet is another can of worms, but if the major public broadcasters have no constraints, then they will eventually lose track of that public duty.
Don't let the wingers drive liberals away from the regulatory environment that we have all now seen to be CRUCIAL to an informed society.
Another thing that is upsetting about this whole thing is that conservatives defend someone who insults a person about the death of their son, wishes him dead, and calls him a homophobic slur but when a journalist asks Cheney how he justifies his relationship with his daughter and his fascist party (which exploits prejudices in the name of God for political gain) the conservatives are appauled and calling for Democratic blood.
Worldclass asswipes, Bozell, Coulter, Limbaugh, all of them.
Coulter is invading our town in a few weeks or so, much to our detriment. She will be giving a "speech", if what she does can be elevated to that level.
Listen to Annie have a meltdown this morning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDpuo2QuugQ&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fandrewsulli...
This is just another example of how alot of Americans have allowed themselves to be pulled through the looking glass. I honestly cannot believe that people who would otherwise consider themselves upstanding and decent would hitch their wagons to Coulter and her obviously psychotic views. Did any of you see the psychofant psycho fans that were cheering Coulter on? Where do they find these people? It was like watching "Deliverance" "the hills have eyes" and "The Stepford wives" all rolled into one. So I hope everyone is really aware of what is happening to our society. Calling for the assassination of Presidential candidates is ok but asking people to stop using personal attacks to the detriment of the level of discourse amounts to an attack? I mean c'mon...
I simply cannot believe Brent Bozell is behaving in a way that is intellectually dishonest. Unthinkable.
DrToxic @ 14
Had same feeling well over a year ago, so decided that in order to soooooth my
feelings, I had better NEVER, NEVER watch/listen to her again...It has worked because
I have totally boycotted her and she is out of my life...and oh, I feel soooo much better.
If Coulter was CORRECTLY LABELED as a Neo-Nazi, this debate would not occur.
Political advantage, Patricia, does not outweigh the damage to society done by HATE-SPEECH.
She should be fined until she has to wear one of Elizabeth Edwards' hand-me-down smocks. And the broadcasters who give her licence to spread hatred should lose theirs.
I wonder how they would respond if, through some perverted dostortion of reality, roles were reversed? The Republicans can achieve nothing, based on whatever the merits the thing they are trying to achieve might possess. Hence the need to propagandize, lie, manipulate, attack,distort, misinform and use every other dirty trick ever devised.
Ann Coulter is a monkey throwing Poo. And the MSM loves it.
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Excuse me, I have to go take a Coulter.
It is hard to believe that somone was goofy enought to write that "press release." One need only see the video of the conversation to see that the title itself is a bit skewed. I was not aware that you could attack someone via a telephone call. Perhaps they should file assault charges.
I don't know who the MRC is, but clearly they have a nasty case of crazy.
Iwoolf What did she say? What happened? And I hate myself for being interested. PS I have Dial up.
Brent Bozell and ann c are monkeys who eat their own poo.
you can not change the mind of someone whose brains are in the hands of the person who have them up their butts. in ann's case it's two hands clapping.
I sent letters to NBC, MSNBC, and ABC today telling them that I am sending transcripts of Ann Coulter's appearances on their programs to their sponsors and starting boycotts of their products among my family and friends. I included links to youtube videos where she called John Edwards a "faggot" as well. The only way to rid the airwaves of this garbage is to hit the networks in the pocketbook. That's the ONLY reason Imus was let go and it can work in our favor against this piece of human garbage, too.
We do not want to see, hear, or read this kind of hate-filled Neo-Nazi crap any longer.
Just a warning, don't go to the Bozell link and read the comments if you have a weak stomach. The comments deny Edwards was called a f@ggot. (I guess I forgot that conservatives don't do nuance or insinuation, but when you make a statement like: “I was going to have a few comments on the other Democratic presidential candidate John Edwards, but it turns out you have to go into rehab if you use the word ‘faggot,’ so I — so kind of an impasse, can’t really talk about Edwards,” do you have personalized insult Tourette's Syndrome." When a few liberals posted there about this, some of them offered to get the exact quote! I am guessing they wouldn't have or just claimed that since she did not say exactly what she is accused of, she didn't say it.
Nowhere in Mr. Bozell's press release does he mention what Mrs. Edwards actually said to Coulter. He goes on a tangent about the Fairness Doctrine and the stifiling of Republican talk radio as if this was about that. They then remark about how liberal the media is and how any attempts to have Coulter silenced (which they claim was Mrs. Edwards' idea) would be censorship.
If Ms. Coulter has something to contribute to the political discourse that is honest, I welcome her input. If she can prove any of the assertions she made while on Hardball (i.e. we found stockpiles of WMD, Iraq was involved with 9/11, The Edwards campaign used the death of his son to political advantage, etc.), she has every right to. Unfortunately, using the rationale of "that's a fact," over and over and over doesn't cut it. If she is just going to resort to cheap shots with no regard for priniciples or truth or even rational thought, why is she on TV?
Look, I would feel the same way if a Liberal pundit was on television saying these outrageous things. Conservatives, at least on that site, bring up Keith Olbermann as their counterargument regarding personal attacks on the President. It seems to me, that Keith's arguments are at least thought-out, thorough and nuanced. I would give Coulter credit if she used her law degree and argued in such a manner.
Oh, and one more thing, if she is just "kidding" or this is all "satire," why is she on the editorial page on not by Dave Barry?
ohhhh, it's beginning to look alot like christmas....
Imagine how the media would react if a liberal pundit suggested a bumper sticker that read, "Ask me about Dubya's dead sister," and then tried to pass it off as a "joke."
(She died of leukemia, many years ago.)
that letter has desperation written all over it.
I said this yesterday and I think it bares repeating. These people are acting a part. They are playing a caricature of real people. They no more really believe what crap spills from their mouths than you do. It is very much like professional wrestling. Ann Coulter is playing part like other players that go by the name of "Hulk Hogan", "The Iron Sheik", and "Sone Cold Steve Austin". There is big money in playing these unreal, hateful, crazy caricatures. That is why they do it. Its a good living and they have no shame.
Well said. Mrs. Edwards was only offering Ann a chance to stop throwing food at the kiddie table and join the grown ups in serious discussion. And all Ann could do was offer the paranoid screams of censorship. To be fair, if she's incapable of writing anything but disrespectful vitriol, perhaps she should stop writing books.
Listen to Annie have a meltdown this morning.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....c%2Ecom%2F
I listened. So sad - Coulter just hates it when he, er I means "she," gets criticized for using hate speech and personal attacks. It's too hard for her to actually discuss the issues rather than using ad hominem attacks on the time.
Boycott the sponsors of any show she appears on. That'll get her attention.
Wow. You totally owned him. Thanks, you reinforced the reasons why I bookmarked C&L in the first place. :-)
pissed off patricia @ 15:
I agree. Just be sure to prefix her name with the title "republican spokesperson".
PoisAnn Coulter and her fellow rightwing freaks have lost all self control because they can read the writing on the wall.
The Nov '06 midtearms was their official curtain call and they know that their time in the sun has ended. They're also beginning to realize that their failed leader will go down in history as being the Decider when every decision he's made has been wrong.
They're failures and they know it. Everyone knows it. That's why they're freaking out.
Strawberry @ 28:
She said NOTHING on the Scrabrough Country tel. conversation...all I heard was her
"plugging" the five(5) books she has written, so if you'll ready want to know where she
is coming from, see what RayC has to say @ 35.....It is money only..
Correction-
"The Republicans can’t compete in a Democratic environment
:::applause for John!:::
Way to go.
I just don't get it. The majority of talk radio shows are devoted to neo-conservative POV's. Where do these people get the idea that their existence is jeopardized? That's bananas. Elizabeth Edwards is right, and those who have nothing but belligerence do not deserve a platform. People like Coulter have dumbed-down forms of debate.
The msm isn't going to grow IQ points unless we force them too. They don't have the smarts to stop booking Coulter, and so the public needs to drag them all, kicking and screaming, to the 21st century.
Bozell was a boy scout, he rubs Ann's legs together and starts a fire, she gives him something warm and fuzzy to feel.
What do you want, John? Republicans are a bunch of lilly-livered, hypocritical, myopic crybabies. Not mention disrespectful, cruel, stupid, and boring. The idea that these people will ever see reason when there is money to be made or a point to be won, silly band of scoreboard watchers that they are, they will never change their disgusting tactics.
I don't even allow republicans in my home, at least not until the time when the Bushistas are out of office and perhaps the discourse gets cranked back down to a more reasonable level of sniping. Better for now to just chain them up in the backyard and let them bark at the squirrels, because at my friends & family gatherings, they are NOT allowed inside with the adults.
What makes Coulter different from Ayman al-Zawahiri?
Zawahiri wears glasses.
Let's face it, if ann lets go of her hate speech she's toast. That's her only claim to fame and I'm feeling like the spotlight is on her for negative reasons only. She knows that and she's desperate not to lose her only "talent". The elections of last Nov showed the public is fed up with a lot of things and her way of speaking and writing may well be one of them. The party of tough guys, wars, and all things macho is in the minority now. The country is tired of this bs. Realilty is starting to awaken and make itself known. The days of "kill them all and let god sort them out" have pretty much run their course. Along with that so has the popularity of hatred.
Bonkers @ 45:
Better for now to just chain them up in the backyard and let them bark at the squirrels, because at my friends & family gatherings, they are NOT allowed inside with the adults.
Dog gone it....we here in Austin just passed a no chaining/no tethering of dogs ordinance, so looks as if I will have to let the group I had chained go and do their pooping elsewhere.
a nice remake of a classic and patriotic song we should all listen to by a random young guy (all hope is not lost!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZ8ZUdfLLok
ferrarimanf355 @ 38:
Thanks...:-)
intron, that kid has promise. He reminded me of the Peter, Paul and Mary days.
I donated $40 to Ted Rall when he was going to sue her for libel and slander. still, in this case, I think we ought to leave Cuntler alone.
Cuntler is providing a historical record of a particular strain of popular conservative idiocy that would otherwise fall between the cracks.
I just want to make sure we are not trying to silence people because their opinions piss us off, otherwise, we are just like them.
I agree we need to play dirtier than we have in the past, but there needs to be a limit. Trying to silence people we dissagree with--even nazis--is far more damaging to the national discourse than letting them talk.
Heil Cuntler
Crooks and liars can discredit the lying right wing - in just a few posts...
Way to go John.
Similar to the Democrats - who have done more to hold accountable this administration in just a few months ...more than the entire previous years under coverup Republican control.....
A little more on Bozell...
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Brent_Bozell
During the 2004 elections Bozell launched a --> 2.8 million dollar campaign to discredit the "liberal media"
So because the Edwards campaign employed bloggers who apologized and somehow lost those jobs(must've been magic) after people complained about how "hateful" it was when they exercised their right to free speech, Coulter can say whatever she wants, no matter how hateful and nasty, and nobody can complain or expect her to apologize or lose her job. Why am I not surprised these people hate the idea of any sort of "fairness" doctrine?
"We do not want to see, hear, or read this kind of hate-filled Neo-Nazi crap any longer." --drtoxic
That's in the Bible isn't it?
Thou shalt not tolerate Neo-Nazis.
I agree with Yellow Elephant Safari: be sure to keep calling her a Republican spokesperson. Keep tying her to the Republicans every chance we get.
Republican spokesperson Ann Coulter. Let's hang her around their necks.
Media excellence awards began with non other the William F Buckley. I think I need not say more than that
Smiths go to Washington @ 52:
Many thanks for the factual info relating to Bozell. This more fully explains
his recent article and position...being an ultra-conservative, right-wing hack.
The Smiths Go To Washington @ 52:
Indeed! I wish anyone, myself included, who is ever tempted to start dogging the Dems try to remember this fact. Look at all the corruption that is being dragged out into the sun, all the way up the Vice Darth! Never would have happened with the republicans still in control. No way, no how, no hope.
We The People can still pull out of this yet! The republican sheep (the constituents, not the actual GOP politicians; THEY can rot for all I care) can thank us later (prolly with a viscious bite to the ankle, but a rolled-up newspaper across the muzzle will take care of that).
There used to be a name for people like Anne Coulter. They were called Harpys. a mean spirited woman/bird which lived on the lives of other people. That describes her to a T.
I'm going to use a bad, bad word. I hope the context in which it's used will permit the site monitors to leave it intact to preserve my point.
Johnnyboy @31 reports:
My questions is this: if Ann Coulter can say,
and her defenders can parse that to claim that she never actually called Edwards a ‘faggot’, then when I say,
that's all right? No? Oh dear.
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I am a 50 year old white female, former marine and the mother of 2 children serving. This is not the america that i grew up in. Nor is it the america i thought my kids would grow old in. What the hell have we let this country become? People like ann coulter and her ilk have no right to breath the same air as i do. They are what is wrong with this country. They preach hate and intolerance and that is their religion. They are without doubt the most pathetic group of people this country has ever seen. God must have put them here to test us. I’m not sure i can pass this test.
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I would just love to ignore Ann Coulter but I'm finding her more and more disturbing. As someone born in the mid-forties, I clearly remember the sixties (and seventies and the eighties) when it was all-too-common to attempt to murder any public figure with whom you had a disagreement. The successful high-profile assassinations of the Kennedys and Martin Luther King get most of the attention but I also remember George Lincoln Rockwell, Malcolm X, Larry Flynt, George Wallace, Ronald Reagan, Gerald Ford (twice), John Lennon, Bob Marley, etc. This trend has mercifully lessened but the absolute last thing we need is this vicious bitch constantly speaking approvingly of assassinations and other deaths. Coulter apparently has a following, at least some elements of which appear to be quite demented. It's very possible that her words will eventually lead one of her followers to actually kill someone. It is incredibly irresponsible of such shows as Good Morning America and Hardball to continue to give her a chance to encourage murder.
marie @ 62:
Wow. Amen to that.
Every time a right-wing pundit screams about the Fairness Doctrine they lose more support for their position--Reagan said we didn't need fairness rules, that people were fair in their own right (please correct me if I'm wrong, but that is the way I heard the story). Don't forget, these guys have been 180 degrees wrong on everything else--logical people see Wrong Way Feldman and reason the opposite is true. Even the maroons who sometimes read Free Republic or are forced to listen to Limbaugh. Democrats should be pushing the Fairness Doctrine as an antidote to political hit jobs (i.e. the Swiftboaters), because Democrats are trusted more and considered more honest than these nut jobs.
Bring it up loud, bring it up often, BRING BACK THE FAIRNESS DOCTRINE!!
Although I avoid Ann Coulter as much as possible - because, let's face it, she kind of gives you the creeps - I somewhat pity her. You can't really help noticing that this woman doesn't seem very happy. Like a compassionate liberal that I am, I then wonder what demons she struggles with, alone in the dark - what childhood traumas - perhaps a sexual identity crisis of sorts...who knows. Something has led this woman to say the things that she says, to spew the venom that gets her so much attention. Or maybe that's all that it is, a cry for attention!
But I suspect that Coulter also fears that rapidly approaching day when her shelf date will expire (if it hasn't yet) - when the long hair, mini dress and overall twenty-something motif (which is already kind of ridiculous) will get more laughs than attention - this while she finds her books only in the discount bin. Ann knows that she has little time left to spread the hate and vitriol before nobody cares - which could be why her attacks get increasingly desperate and bizarre.
Excellent response, John.
I can only imagine that AC's horrible comments will keep hurting her party by exposing their dark side. Reasonable people will continue to be turned off by her and the GOP in general. DGC
Oh, by the way, Coulter referred to herself as a Nazi today--not because other people are calling her that, but listen to the audio. She said she thinks people are treating her like a Nazi ... most people hearing that are thinking, "hm, the shoe fits ...."
fairness doctrine???
how about busting up the 5 or 6 umbrella media corporations so that the many are not owned by the few
Who in the heck is "bozell"?
The idea that Elizabeth Edwards "attacked" Coulter is inane --
Coulter has been attacking John Edwards and the Edwards Family --
Why anyone tunes in to any of these programs, anyway, is a mystery to me --
Turn the damned TVs off, folks -- !!!
Well said Amato.
I've been to http://newsbusters.org/node/13775 and tried to sign up with no luck. Of course maybe it's because my handle was RegressivesAreidiots.
The "Talking Points" there are amazing to read... It's a real bastion of Regressive crapola.
It always amazes me when anyone (but mostly Regressives) try to find some semblance of minutia to support their convoluted arguments that ally themselves with this arrogant ignorant administration... the idiot inane nits they will pick to make themselves think they are right... cognitive dissonance.
Re: Ann on Morning Joe:
Mr. Coulter's upper crust accent is hysterical in context... it sounds so odd with his obviously male vocal chords.
I agree completely with you entire post...
...and I recommend everyone here try to log in at the site and post to the afflicted...
~albabe
johnnyboy @ 31:
I agree that the Fairness Doctrine by itself will not help much to fix the recent rarefied atmosphere *gack* of our public discourse. Media consolidation has been a failure. New administration, new executive orders. There is a lot to work on in the near future.
Er, maybe the conservatives are totally hamstrung when it comes to debating real issues. Maybe the only way they really CAN debate is to obfuscate the real issues by getting in the sty and throwing mud. Nah. Just listen to the likes of Coulter, Beck, Limbaugh and Savage Weiner. These are guys who really know the value of issue-only debate, right?
Ann Coulter is just another example of the result of the 'Conservative Compassion' policy which turned all our mentally ill out on the streets with no care and no meds.
She just happened to end up in front of a camera instead of on top of a sidewalk grating, or in an alley in a cardboard box. And she seems to have found a source for 'meds', but the ones she's taking are contra-indicated, for those with her bundle of psychoses.
To utter my truest and deepest opinion of L. Brent "Doctor Zaiuss' stunt-double" Bozell would be a grievous insult to vinegar, water and the pouches in which they are frequently combined.
I was actually surprised that the commenters at Newsbusters could see past their eyebrow ridges and work around their bloody, calloused knuckles to work a keyboard, based on the depth and intelligence of their ability to regurgitate the same tired bullshit they always start spewing whenever someone gives them the mistaken notion that someone has pushed their "talk" button
There`s so much to comment on in Brent Bozell lll`s tripe-attack of Elizabeth Edward`s so-called"attack"of Ann Coulter on Hardass-ball,the other day.I find myself wondering if he was watching the same clip that I was.
The following quote from Brent # 3`s press release has me wondering what kind of person #2 was that he spawned such an imbecile."Mrs. Edwards’ attack on Coulter is just another volley in the liberals’ attack on conservative writers and conservative talk radio.”This is an amazing statement from anyone who actually watched the clip.I loved William F. Buckley in his prime,but this guy,Limbaugh,Coulter,and their ilk are small in comparison. I`m sure that Buckley would not have condoned the Swift Boat tactics,but not so of Brent and the other two cretins.
[...] lefts idiocy once again rears its ugly head as well as their hypocritical nature…one example, Crooks and Liars. (The name alone should have warned me that all I would read there is lies, but hey, I held my nose [...]
Well since Bozell compares Amanda Marcotte to Coulter; didn't Marcotte resign? Shouldn't Coulter be held just as accountable for what she says? Shouldn't Coulter resign in her own way?
I suggest a monastery with vow of silence would show a comparable level of contrition.
Now for something completely different. Coming out of right field as it were...
(emp mine)
Yes the Fairness Doctrine. Fairness. As in having the quality and state of being free from bias, dishonesty, or injustice: a fair decision; a fair judge.
As in Fair media.
How will a media free from bias, dishonesty, or justice stop conservatives from "selling their product". Bozell is just acknowledging that conservative talk radio can not compete on a fair playing field.
Do you think Bozell would debate me? Not likely...lol
We're here for yah' John!
Tell Bozell to bring it on!
John Amato @ 82:
Doubt it. Maybe if he gets to write the questions and mike cutting rights.
Love his complaint against the Fairness Doctrine given his reaction to what he saw as bias in Wikipedia. (And if any haven't seen it check out the Lewis Black. Bozell is the joker responsible for Conservapedia.)
Another dolt with a B.A. in History.
P.S. Wouldn't happen to have the 11/30/2006 Olbermann "Worst Person in the World" by any chance?
Sorry about those multiple posts. Thought I was working with haloscan and having them eaten.
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ladies and gentlemen...the wingnut echo machine has been hard at work since mrs edwards confronted coulter on the air...they are going all nutso on the fairness doctrine deal.
lets start off with the big lie...that broadcast ownership programs for ratings and profit
faux news channel lost millions during its start....
most wingnut radio have tiny ratings compared to music and other formats
in fact, very few wingnut hosts have large ratings
wingnuts get syndication deals because they give their shows away, and stations are now in the hands of a very few corporations
air america did not fail because no one wanted to listen, or there wasnt a market for progressive voices...they failed due to a bad biz plan and their insistence on filling the air waves with non radio people
do i believe that there is a need to have a return to the fairness doctrine???
nope....but i believe congress needs to look into the new corporate monopoly that is tv and radio
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[...] needs the numbers. She was on Scarborough this morning - video here - and now Brent Bozell is defending her - saying he hates censorship of any kind. She’ll be fine. I have no idea about the [...]
Good post, John. Wow, the projection, the hypocrisy, the irony is astounding.
As long as we're talking about "the free market," why is it that the National Review and Weekly Standard have been loss-leaders for years? Why do conservative think tanks have such bloated budgets while supporting such mediocre hacks? Why does NewsMax buy Coulter books in bulk and sell them for $5? The entire conservative echo chamber exists in large part in defiance of the free market, heavily subsided by rich, powerful people.
As for Coulter versus either Edwards, really, bring it on. There's no way in hell the vile Coulter lines up against Elizabeth or John and the American people choose Coulter. Even some of the 30% dead-enders don't approve of making fun of the death of someone's child.
When I saw the Hardball segment with Mrs Edwards, I was reminded of the watershed "Have you no shame" moment in the McCarthy hearings that ultimately led to McCarthy's downfall.
The big C (as I like to call her) looked pathetic and vaguely rabid as always but even tweety couldn't stomach her anymore.
"The times, they are achangin" I think Coulter is toast.
I think organizing a movement to boycott advertisers is very good, how about this modification. Write each advertiser on the programs in which the big C appears informing them that for one week, you will not buy or use their product - instead you will try the product of a competitor, just in case it becomes necessary to switch to a new brand entirely because your first attempt to get their attention fails.
I don't have cable, so this would be impossible to do on my own - it would take an organized effort and a listing of the sponsors - but count me in!
mikerobe Says:[Deleted juvenile rant].
The above is a half-degree cooler than Coulter: she attacks others with sociopathic hate-speech unacceptable in civil discourse in order not to deal with the issues. You change the subject in order not to deal with the issue: Coulter's sociopathic hate-speech.
Bozell is vile.
Brent Bozell is one of the biggest mouths that scream about a supposedly "liberal media" On Scarborough Country of May 16 Bozell and Scarborough continue the suppression of the fact that the Army has said that soldiers have committed homicides and gave the false impression that it didn't happen! (note mainstream media has basically not reported the story or severely under-reported it.)
Ann Coulter simply commented on the Edwards' use of their son's death as a campaign strategy. Her pointing out their exploiting of a tragic event doesn't make her responsible for it.
Um, John, Brent Bozell heads something called the PTC, not "the PTL." He's also not married to Tammy Faye.
There's also a great difference between allowing political speech on TV and radio and allowing jiggly titties and the crudest curse words.
To their poor deluded minds a pie in the puss is an act of terrorism.
Ellen @ 68:
Don't mean horseshoe?
Rubink @ 67:
Ann doesn't shave her armpits?
drtoxic @ 14:
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I would never say this on a website for fear of some sort of investigation of threats. Unless of course I was Ann Coulter in which case I could call for the assaination of presidential candidate without fear of reprisal.
Bozell is so deliberately misconstruing Mrs. Edward's remarks and intentions that it's scarey. This sort of screed can only be produced by someone who has no faith in truth, and who puts no value on integrity or concepts like "honor." Mrs. Edwards made no attempt at all to silence Coulter. In fact, quite the contrary, she encouraged Coulter to engage in legitimate debate and to stop the ugly, low brow, and disgusting personal attakcs. Bozell apparently thinks that making jokes about a dead child passes for public discourse, and insulting widows by claiming they don't give a damn about their deceased husbands is high-brow analysis. As long as this person has an audience, this country is in sad and pathetic shape, indeed.
Bozell, of course, has a right, as much as anyone, to lie and dissemble. And Coulter has a right to say heartless, ugly, sadistic and hurtful things about people. Both stoop to lying and insult because they have little else to offer.
mikerobe,
If you want to do something about the welfare class, you have to address the corporate welfare class who are shipping all the jobs overseas. With the best wishes of the Republican party.
How can you expect any American to have life and home, education and work-no matter how hard they try- if there is no possibility of self sustainence?
Stop corporate welfare, and corporate give-aways in the form of favorable tax legislation and you may see some improvement in how people manage to live in this country.
marie says: It’s very possible that her words will eventually lead one of her followers to actually kill someone. It is incredibly irresponsible of such shows as Good Morning America and Hardball to continue to give her a chance to encourage murder.
That's exactly what I was thinking, Marie. Anyone who would be a fan of this twisted harpy must have a few screws loose and may decide one day to act out her murderous fantasies. I truly think the only way to stop this horrible, schriveled-up woman is to hit her in the pocketbook. Boycott anyone who gives her a platform and then her crappy books won't sell because she will finally be silenced. Losing sponsors is what got the awful Don Imus canned.
Jackie @ 17:
It’s very possible that her words will eventually lead one of her followers to actually kill someone. It is incredibly irresponsible of such shows as Good Morning America and Hardball to continue to give her a chance to encourage murder.
Beyond ridiculous. The left ignores the constant cries for jihad from the various extremists that live among us and then latches onto an attempted joke as if it were a death threat. Bill Maher says worse on almost a nightly basis and the left thinks that he is some type of God.
Also, unlike Sharpton, Ann has never actually gotten anyone to commit murder.
drtoxic @ 14:
drtoxic @ 14:
Well, i don't see any hate in Dr.Toxic's post. I look at posts on the left and on the right, and I've seen far some rage/hate/violent posts from the left. If anybody reads this and doesn't agree, then It's Kool-Aid time.
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