Lieberman thinks Iran has 'declared war'
By Steve Benen Monday Jul 02, 2007 7:26amOnce again, Lieberman is out neo-conning the neo-cons.
Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut independent, yesterday called for the U.S. to confront Iran — possibly with militarily force — after U.S. military officials reported that Iran was training Iraqi Shi'ite fighters, reports S.A. Miller of The Washington Times.
"These revelations should be a wake-up call to the United States about the threat posed by the Islamic Republic of Iran, as well as a reminder why Iraq is, in fact, the central front of the global war on terror," said Mr. Lieberman....
"Although no one desires a conflict with Iran, the fact is that the Iranian government by its actions has declared war on us," said Mr. Lieberman, the 2000 Democratic nominee for vice president.
And with that, Lieberman slips just a little bit further from reality.
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CT Voters...you poor, poor bastards...
But remember, they create their own reality.
Can we declare war on CT ?
Send Lieberman's son to the front lines of the Iran war, then see how fast this neocon chickenhawk coward backs down when his own blood is on the line rather than someone else's.
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It's fascinating how the "conservatives" gave Pelosi merciless shit for reaching out to Syria and having a conversation, yet they have nothing to say when Lieberman engages in irresponsible sabre rattling.
exit7a @ 3:
Lieberman IS a WMD, so perhaps declaring war on CT and the voters who thrusted this warmonger on us and the world is not out of the question?
What is truly insane about the beligerence of neo-cons like Lieberman is that there really is a worthy target for their ire:
www.asecondlookatthesaudis.com
Yet they refuse to say a peep about any of this. Consider Liebermans reference to the recent London bomb plots this past weekend. They've already arrested three Saudi-born doctors for participating in the plot, including the alleged ringleader:
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article2730423.ece
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=465481&in_page_id=1770&ct=5
And from the beginning we have known that 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were all Saudi Arabian. Now they're wreaking havoc in Iraq, too.
How much more obvious can this be?
I could say that we should be grateful that he is not the Vice President, however the current reality is much scarier.
Would we have seen this side of Lieberman had he been V.P.?
I once believed that no one was more invested in Israel's well-being than myself. But with every passing day I have to ask myself if Joe Lieberman is a registered agent of the Israeli government.
I want to see Israel prevail in the face of its enemies. But the USA should not wage wars solely to appease Israel.
Mr. Lieberman, chose the nation you want to represent and move on.
Noone believes what the military says about Iran or anyone else for that matter. So statements like these are particularly surreal.
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IMO - this only emphasizes your ignorance - not Lieberman's.
That said, Joe Lieberman has dreck for brains.
When will the Democratic candidates condemn Lieberman for his reckless war-mongering? This is the same Lieberman who led the charge in advocating a military intervention in Iraq. The result: amost 600,000 people have died. This guy is really dangerous.
Does anyone even listen to this bastard any more? He's like a crazy old uncle who just says shit to hear his own voice. Give him a warm cup of milk and ignore him.
The dems need to bounce this guy from their caucus. He does not represent any democrats I know.
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One word for a comment like this: ugly
If the Dems get a big enough Senate majority in '08 they won't ever have to listen to GI Joe again. Let's hope.
Bill in Chicago @ 8:
One report has one of the doctors being Iraqi
On Iraq, our own military says that 4-5% of the insurgency is Al- CIAda!
On Iraq, our msm reports ALL enemy as Al- CIAda!
now, we get this:
U.S. Says Iran Helped Iraqis Kill Five G.I.'s
By JOHN F. BURNS and MICHAEL R. GORDON
A U.S. military spokesman in Baghdad said that Iranian agents and veterans of Hezbollah helped plan a raid in Iraq in which five American soldiers were killed.
earlier thread on gordon shows that people are sick and tired of him doing a judith miller iimitation. once again, anonymous, unsupported nonsense is coming from the 'paper of record'
The neocon's have friends in the NYT LAT and WaPo. During the time Miller was being exposed as a WH operative, it was revealed how the gov't manipulated news agencies even to the point of placement of personnel and influencing editorial policy. If we don't clean it up, we keep what we got.
Hey Joe -- One, two, three, four, I declare a thumb war!
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Do you ever use the "N" word?
turn off your computer. get in the street.
Now, where are the impeachment nuts?
Up and ready to go!
Maybe the cynics should go back to bed.
OK, Joe-sie, I take it back. Brain first, then spine.
pissed off patricia @ 14:
guarantee he'll be on another show on J4 AND next Sunday, spouting his war crap.
And that so-called 30% will listen, unfortunately
Probably a right-winger trying to drop anti-Semitism canards to excuse away the real story of Joe's batshit insanity.
Hey bub, I'm Jewish. You might've heard of people like Feinstein, Boxer, Franken, Feingold, Schumer, Emmanuel, Levin, Cardin, Bernie Sanders, etc. They're the Jews fighting to end this fraud war. And don't forget George Soros.
How many Jews in the wingnut side of Congress? You got Norm Coleman and Arlen Specter, both marginalized, and Holy Joe Liarman.
Sorry dude, a few token Jews in Wingnuttia don't change which side most Jewish people are really on -- the side of reality.
I think the middle east is over reacting to an illegal hostile occupation of Iraq. If Iran occupied Texas because they have WMD we would never fight back or help the Texans get rid of the Iranian invasion. We be civilized after all.
Just barking mad. This idiot is rivalling Cheney.
Oh, and what's this "oil law" the Iraqis are starting to debate today? The MSM ran an article about debating it, but never said what it is. Typical. Must be one more of W's unconcionable policies.
Would that be in the same way we declared war on the Soviet Union in Afghanistan?
And the guy WE trained came right back and blew up a couple of OUR buildings while on OUR payroll!
Training, so what, we do it, they do it, everybody has-is-will do it.
That's not declaring war in any meaning of the phrase.
In the end the people Iran trains, IF they really are training them, will probably end up in Tehran blowing up some shrine in about 10 years. Just like OUR jihadi's did.
So the burning question is:
WTF is that sack of dung LIEberman still allowed to pretend he's a Democrat? And if he's an independent, why the hell does he hold Democrat seats?
Pelosi, you are showing yourself to be quite the idiot with this, first no impeachment for documented high crimes against state and humanity and now by letting this senile war mongering turd pretend his interests lie with America and letting him speak for US.
LIEberman, pick your country already. I would prefer if you left for Tel Aviv personally.
Cspan: I guess Rethuglians love war because as long as you're blowing people up, you don't have to think.
Don't panic over Israel's desperate wishful thinking. The great US of A has never, in the 40 "wars" over the past 60 years, taken on an "enemy" armed with anything deadlier than a pea-shooter in the hands of a starving civilian.
Iran is safe. We know it, they know it and they know that we know. The US may be callous and murderous but suicidal, it is not.
What does Leibermans constituency think of him? I'd like to hear what they think on the issues.
Todd Pope: quite right. Unfortunately, another example of the Dems in D. C. not being able to separate themselves from the rest of the corporate-owned, Dobson-controlled government. Kick Joe off the committees.
Lieberman is having a Wargasm.
You heard him CT. Your elected leader has spoken. Time to suit up CT.
Good luck brave CT.
Bye now.
Have a nice war.
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Fan_of_Man:
You are one ignorant bastard.
Abby is right, Iran has a sophisticated 21st century military. We will not be attacking Iran, no matter how many wet dreams the armchair generals have had about attacking Iran over the past 30 years.
That's Lieberman, CT-Republican..........
Leiberman always spouts the pro-Israel line. Its as if he is their representative in American government.
yeah, whats up with CT? noobs!
I sincerely believe that Lieberman is begging for a veep position on a Repub presidential ticket. Now that McCain is all but gone, maybe he is knocking at the door of Fred Thompson. They sure seem to be birds of a feather. Lieberman knows that to be a hit with the Christian right you must say batshit crazy things and by god, he's becoming a pro at that.
My country is now like a train wreck and I can barely watch what is happening.
Lieberman may be slipping from reality but there is still a tone of uneducated Americans and those the Republicans and their spokespersons (Ann Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, Tucker Carlson, Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity) have willfully kept ignorant who will be eating this up . . .
Eating this up, and beating the drum for war, while they and their's will not walk into a recruiters office and sign up
HAVE YOU HAD ENOUGH, YET.
The time is right for Impeachment. Let the proceedings begin. Cheney, Bush and Gonzalas, all three simutaneously. Don’t forget, Libby can be subpeonaed to testify before Congress. If he lies before Congress he can still be charged again. It won’t be a get out of jail free if Bush and Cheney are under impeachment.
I have rewritten an updated version of our Declaration of Independence for 2007. Ihope you all will take a few minutes to read it and pass it on to friends and relatives. We have to Declare our Independence again.
http://myfightfordemocracy.blo…..-2007.html
pro-israel does not mean pro-iran war. There is a big peace movement in Israel, and only a fraction of the population wants total war with people just because they are muslims. Kinda like the United States!
We surrounded Iran with illegal invasions of both countries it borders Cepan.
I say, anything they do in Iraq to diminish US strength is justified. The way to solve the problem of Iranian support of Iraqi patriots--pull our troops out now.
They are dying for nothing.
Thanks CT voters! America really aprecciates the stab in the back.
Lieberman is a drunk old fool that should be playing checkers in a park somewhere.
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Looks like Michelle Malkin is working on her next book!
Where is Lieberman's M-16 if we are at war?
Cepan, isn't it time for you to serve Joe his egg salad sandwich?
Seele^ @ 45:
Very true.
But unfortunately LIEberman is one of them, and worse he's one of the nuts for BOTH countries.
Hey CT, whats up? You have a bad habit of producing traitors! Why is that? The water maybe?
I am not clear at all about this. Didn't the US, a foreign power, support, arm, and train the Mujihadeen in Afghanistan against an invading/occupying force (the USSR)? How is it that Iran doing the same is so different than that? The egocentricity and ethnocentricity of these people is simply astounding.
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how can lieberman be mossad, when the old buffoon can't even fight his way out of a wet paper bag?
Lieberman is a propoganda monkey.
This is like the BS yellowcake-niger story or the wmd. We need to get them out before they start another war.
Cepan @ 18:
THe anti-American reich-wing scum have been crying for months over Libby. I'm sure you are included that cohort.
lieberman to join cheney in HELL very very SOON,
they've earned all that hatred./\
Senator #1: Joe Lieberman gave a 90-minute speech in the Senate today.
Senator #2: What did he talk about?
Senator #1: He didn’t say.
Liberman is echoing the same manufactured evidence to support attacking Iran that Himmler used to justify invading Poland in 1939.
Throwback @ 53:
It isn't (provided that the claim about Iran is true). The entire Cold War was fought by proxy, which is what the neocons are claiming Iran is doing here. It is just that during the Cold War, each side was much more reluctant to openly confront the other over their interferance, because that would escalate matters to a nuclear showdown. Indeed, this is much the same reason we are willing to pick on Iran (which has no nuclear weapons) but neither Pakistan nor North Korea (which do). This is exactly why Iran wants nuclear weapons -- so it can be part of the "big boy" club.
However, I should point out that this in no way legitmizes Iran's claim for nuclear weapons, nor does it excuse their intervention in Iraq, if that is indeed what they are doing. The fact that "US did it, so they should be able to do it to" does not cut it; that way leads to chaos. The problem is that our administration has such a credibility gap that there is no way to determine what Iran is doing.
Throwback @ 53:
You are quite correct.
There are about a dozen countries the US trained and supplied in the last 50 years.
The hypocrisy is overwhelming.
Cepan is back and he still has Shit Seepan from his brain.
Ron @ 44:
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Walker @ 60:
Actually, what it does is makes it impossible for the US to protest or claim war powers over it.
You can't do one thing and say it's OK, then turn around and declare no one else can do it or it's a declaration of war.
As for Iran's "claim for nuclear weapons", don't be disingenuous.
They have stated their purpose as civilian, and they have the right under the NPT to pursue that goal.
That it "might" be used at a later date for weapons is moot, they do not have nor will they have that capability for quit some time. It is a civilian program until proven otherwise.
Don't be a dupe, OK?
We're arming militias that attack civilians and soldiers in Iraq, in the name of winning the war in Iraq. The government of Iraq, thanks to us is now Shia, the religious faction of Iran. Does booshco even know what they're doing anymore.
The soldiers and cops we train in Iraq, then turn around and kidnap, torture, and kill those in opposing militias. Haven't they ever learned the rule of law like we have?
Uh...scratch that one. Rule of law ceased to exist yesterday.
ysbaddaden @ 64:
Yeah, scratch it with a purple finger.
Connecticut: you have been conned. And by a mad man.
The only reason the crooks would like to hit Iran is to hurt Iran enough to make the theft of Iraqi oil possible. The trickle they are stealing right now is not worth the effort they have put in already and a healthy Iran will never allow the free and unhindered theft of the Iraqi oil as we have already seen.
Cheney needs the Iraqi Oil Bill signed into Law before he leaves office and Iran is standing in the way. Since a Republican dare not speak of attacking another Muslim country at this moment in time, bring on the Fox News "Democrat" Joe Lieberman to make the insanity appear "bi-partisan", 80% of Americans be damned.
"Although no one desires a conflict with Iraq... I mean Iran, the fact is that the Iranian government by its actions has declared war on us,” said Mr. Lieberman.
Here we go again. Saddam 'by his actions' caused the continuing disaster in Iraq. Let us go to war based on perceived actions, those perceived by the Neocon crazies, including Liebermannn.
I am more than willing to send other peoples' children to war for my own vanity.
-Joe Lieberman/Emporer Palpatine
Lieberman is hysterical with fear. He is terrified of Iran. He is scared to death. This is the basis of his reaction. I often wonder if he's the senator from Connecticut or from Tel Aviv.
Some days I think liarman is cheney's evil twin brother.
Lieberman is not afraid. It is not fear talking, it is bloodlust talking.
Jonathon @ 71:
That seems to be the defining mental state of the entire Republican Party and it's adherents.
They are scared shitless and can't for the life of them figure out why we aren't.
It must really chaff their hides that 60% pf America is more bored than scared with this whole drama at this point.
PopeTodd @ 74:
For the same reason why they couldn't understand when the poll numbers indicated that the majority of the country didn't give a shit about the Clinton blowjob, yet the Repubs were running around screaming about "morality", as they jerked themselves off to the Starr Report.
Well I declare...
PopeTodd @ 74:
For the same reason that they couldn't understand why the poll numbers showed that a majority of the country didn't give a shit about the Clinton blowjob, yet the Repubs ran around in a tizzy screaming about "morality" as they jerked themselves off to the Starr report.
Sorry about the dual post.
Lieberman apparently thinks it is ok for the US to arm Sunni insurgents, but Iran cannot arm Shiite insurgents. What the hell is the difference Joe? Oh, right, you are the U.S.A. and you can do anything you want. Might makes right! The US can do anything it wants but other countries cannot.
I am not so sure about that. How about the fact that no option is off the table? That means nuclear weapons! The US could nuke Iran and I would not put it past this administration to do something as crazy as that. The US is the only country to ever use nukes on an enemy (Japan).
If the US did nuke Iran they would definitely be the most aggressive rogue state on Earth. This would be setting a VERY dangerous precedent. The rest of the planet would be forced to place sanctions on the US. China would cash in all its US treasury bonds and US currency thereby destroying the US economy overnight. Another great depression in the works or possibly worse...
the_captain
Can we get Connecticut to secede from the union?
You know what Joe?! You go to war with Iran. We'll sit back and watch. And no flak jacket.
Leprechaun's hatred of Muslims is bigger than you and me.
mossad is what a dirty word? mossad is what a jewish word? why are you so afraid of the word mossad? its a fairly used word >joe is mossad!
scared to hear the word mossad ? who cowed you?
the_captain: Air strikes, war from the safety of 3000 ft, war by pushing buttons at no risk to American lives is a BushCo and cowardly Republican wet dream but don't forget this: The shit does not stop when Iran is in ruins, as they think it does; The shit STARTS after Iran is in ruins.
tyree @ 83:
Mooo...
tyree @ 82:
I think it's that old "can't say anything about Israel because of the holocaust" thing.
Mossad is a despicable organization filled with violent zealots who learned too well the methods of the Gestapo and SS and continually use Auschwitz and Berkinow as an excuse to practice their favorite activities.
The JDL is their civilian arm.
Let the accusations of bigotry fly, they are empty and meaningless in the face of the truth.
exactly pope
That's not just a slip -- that's a whole wardrobe.
Joe Lieberman is such a cute cuddly war mongering codger.
moo urself
Then, let Lieberman don a uniform, grab a gun, and lead the charge of idiot neo-conniving warmongers into Tehran. Otherwise, inform him that no one really gives a crap what he thinks, too stunned that he actually does think. One would think him to be too occupied with swinging by his lips from all that suction he's built on Dumya's jock cup to actually be able to multitask with that much erudition. He's obviously far more politically ambidextrous than we earlier imagined.
It's just AMAZING how these chicken hawks all are lusting for blood, but NONE of thier sons are in the military...
Romney, Leiberman, Rudy...
All have military age sons, hell, Mitt has 5 Sons between 25 and 37...
These guys are real tough, as long as some poor or brown kid is doing the dying....
I see his point. I mean, Iraq declared war on us by being invaded.
The wingnuts should start a third Party - The Batshit Crazy Party. McCain/Lieberman would be their ticket in '08
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PopeTodd @ 64:
As for Iran's "claim for nuclear weapons", don't be disingenuous.
They have stated their purpose as civilian, and they have the right under the NPT to pursue that goal.
That it "might" be used at a later date for weapons is moot, they do not have nor will they have that capability for quit some time. It is a civilian program until proven otherwise.
Don't be a dupe, OK?
Every country threatened by the US would like to have nuclear weapons in order to give them greater bargaining power. The Cold War demonstrated that the existance of such weapons forced all conflicts into one of proxies.
Does that mean that Iran is anywhere near having this capability? No. Does it mean that their current efforts have been towards developing them for anything other than civilian uses? No. Does it mean they will use them if they made them? No.
You are arguing against positions I don't hold.
gene214 @ 94:
Nah..The wingnuts HATE McCain...Campaign Finance Reform did him in. Plus, he actually has a son serving in Bush's clusterf*ck in Iraq
Give em Mitt/Lieberman or Rudy/Lieberman...
Chicken Hawks all, ready to send everyone to die, as long as THEIR sons are safe at home....
BTW, I heard Cheney is working on a lifetime deferment for his new Grandson? Gotta keep up the family tradition of being a coward....
I heard that the London/Glasgow wannabe Al Queda are doctors from Jordan. So, Britain should bomb...ummm... Syria! Or Iran, either one will do.
Walker @ 96:
Every country threatened by the US would like to have nuclear weapons in order to give them greater bargaining power. The Cold War demonstrated that the existance (sic) of such weapons forced all conflicts into one of proxies.
Does that mean that Iran is anywhere near having this capability? No. Does it mean that their current efforts have been towards developing them for anything other than civilian uses? No. Does it mean they will use them if they made them? No.
You are arguing against positions I don't hold.
You did actually proclaim just that.
You said, and I quote:
1) Iran has made no claim for nuclear weapons.
2) The US has no leg to stand on when declaring Iranian support of regional Shiite's out of bounds. That the US did/does/will do it is everything in this war of words. You cannot admonish others committing a crime while simultaneously committing the same crime.
To chaos it may lead, but the US has no standing to call them out on it.
Beside, I think it's a little late to worry about chaos in the region.
The only cure for chicken hawks.
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apishapa @ 98:
Next time any man has a prostate exam, and the doctor says turn your head and cough, it'll make us wonder what they're inserting in our ass.
Sorry, let me fix this:
PopeTodd @ 99:
You did actually proclaim just that.
You said, and I quote:
1) Iran has made no claim for nuclear weapons.
2) The US has no leg to stand on when declaring Iranian support of regional Shiite's out of bounds. That the US did/does/will do it is everything in this war of words. You cannot admonish others committing a crime while simultaneously committing the same crime.
To chaos it may lead, but the US has no standing to call them out on it.
Beside, I think it's a little late to worry about chaos in the region.
tyree @ 90:
I think that's illegal in Texas.
JM @ 25:
I agree with you, J.M. You are totally right.
But AIPAC has a lot of money and clout, and AIPAC wants war with Iran. And I strongly suspect Holy Joe, for reasons all his own, takes his marching orders from AIPAC.
It is unfortunate that so many accept AIPAC's word that it speaks for the Jewish community. It only speaks for AIPAC and a lot of Christian Millennial Fundamentalists.
Iran declares war?
So don't Repondez S'il Vous Plait.
Dooh.
by it actions america and israel has declared war on the rest of the worls
Oh, my. I guess the covert combat ops we been running on Iran for the last 2+ years aren't in themselves an act of war?
Fuck you Mr. Lieberman. Dry up and blow away, ya corrupt, fool.
Well I for one have already called Sen. Reids office and told him how upset I am with Lieberman with his sabre rattling for war with Iran, and his fundraising for republican candidates and asked that he do whatever is in his power to marginalize Lieberman including removing him as chair of the Homeland Security committee; followed with a call to Lieberman's office telling him that he should stop calling himself an independent democrat and instead start calling himself an independent republican or finally come out and announce that he is joining the Republican party so we can finally be rid of him
The_captain said:
The US is the only country to ever use nukes on an enemy (Japan).
How about Iraq, twice and Serbia. Depleted uranium is a nuclear weapon. Ask the USA vets who are dying from it.
Given our track record of supporting insurgencies (e.g., Afghanistan, Nicaragua, Cuba, and who knows where else) it's hard to see where the US can claim the moral high ground here. The only difference here is that we are capable (sort of, anyway) of thumping the other side whereas when we were supporting insurgencies the victims couldn't strike back at us directly for one reason or another.
Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 109:
It most certainly is!
Don't forget their use of it on American citizens as well in the form of dozens of above ground tests and then monitoring of the populations in Utah and Nevada for symptoms of disease.
And more recently the proposed demolition of 400lbs a month of depleted uranium in above ground blast tests designed to test dispersal patterns over those same populations.
America, love it or leave it?
Where is that fuckin door...
I guess we didn't give aid and money to Iraq when Saddam was our buddy and he was busy shooting Iran full of holes. Does Libermann remember that far back?
By all means, spend even more of my tax dollars on another stupid, unwinnable "war."
Invasion is more like it.
God, what a place.
ysbaddaden @ 103:
no i think that about sums up texas!!!!!!!!!!
It's like something out of the Twilight Zone. Lieberman is being controlled
by remote and Cheney is at the controls...and Lieberman likes it. Wonder
how long before we see Lieberman with drawings of nuke sites in Iran like
the ones Powell presented right before we invaded Iraq?
Scary!
Glenn Beck agrees with him.
It must be a neo-con thing.
Chris from Maine @ 116:
Of course Beck agrees with him. Glen is in a constant state of pants-shittery over the Scary Brown People [Middle Eastern Division].
Sen. Joe Lieberman is not american, he works and represents a known
terrorist country israel.
If I just had a penney, no more than that, for all the bullshit to come out of Joe Liebermans piehole in the last couple of years...
Well, I could retire... I'd be rich...JD
Rusty Shackleford @ 117:
ROFLMAO!
Maybe we all send them both a package of Adult Depends, just to make the point clear?
I'm game, any other takers? I'll see if I can find the addresses and we could time this thing to arrive at the same time, like maybe with FedEx or something.
Could we just cut it out with the bullshit-based WWII-Hiroshima/Nagasaki-Nuclear Weapons comparisons, please!?! The use of thermo-nuclear devices in WWII was intended to convince an enemy, who realized the war was lost and that the only 'honorable' course of action was to die in battle no matter how futile, that surrender was more 'honorable' than obliteration in a nuclear firestorm. In addition, the devices used were NOTHING compared to the nuclear warheads we have now.
There is no way to compare the decision then, to a decision to use a nuclear warhead in a tactical strike today!
If Iran has declared war on us by supporting the Shi'a in Iraq, then, by inference, the United -- what's the name of that country again, the one that has supported Israel all these years against, ummm, Jordan, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, Iran, the Palestinians? You know the one. The U.S.! -- yeah, that one! Didn't they, by inference, declare war against the non-Israeli Middle East*? Let's take it to it's crazy-Joe-Lieberman conclusion: US declares war on the Middle East by supporting those who would do harm to the Islamic nations and people. As a direct result, Al Qaeda retaliates against US. OMG!! Is Al Qaeda a disciple of Holy Joe? Or vice versa?
*Except, of course, for the sprawling Bush Family ranch called Saudi Arabia.
Don't you love how he referred to Iran as ' the Islamic Republic of Iran'. Red meat for the xenophobic, deranged, blood-luster's that read the fascist, corporatist, propagandist Washington Times.
Can we all just admit that our government has been usurped by Israeli agents?
They're playing a game of Battleship?
HEh @ 124:
Nein!
tyree @ 114:
We also know our differences.
The following isn't meant as criticism of the site owner or most of the posters on here, but don't you sometimes feel like you are (we are) preaching to the choir? I mean, compiling this useful information on this website is great, but do you link or post to other websites where some "non-believers" might loiter?
Adam @ 128:
Have you ever tried to post on the "non believer" sites as you call them (I call them delusional wingnut sites myself, less religious connotation)?
They delete your post and ban you after about 15 minutes, and in the meantime leave all the nasty ignorant spin filled trash responses to make their buddies feel good about kicking the realist in the head.
Preaching top the choir? Nah. To many different views in this tent to call it preaching.
More like exchanging.
ysbaddaden @ 127:
thank the lord for small favors!
HEh @ 124:
we certainly can more like subverted!
Joe Lieberman can go piss up a rope.
Medical Diagnosis by Video @ 109:
True. Point taken.
I agree with you. However the US government would beg to differ, especially good ole Joe!
the_captain
kaT @ 28:
That would be the PSA's (Production Sharing Agreements) where British and American oil companies get 87% of the revenues from the sale of Iraqi oil. The Iraqis get 13%.
The real reason for this war; stealing oil and the main reason that we are.....
A NATION OF WAR CRIMINALS
Give Lieberman a weapon and send him over. It will keep the idiots in CT that voted for this jerk from being able to screw up our government any worse than it already is.
I wish he'd just move to Israel.
fuck you liebermann, send your family first to fight ,none of this pigs have family members in the armed forces,the only reason you want war with iran is because you are jewish. I am not ,Idont give a fuck about iran.
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breaking news: I just declared war on Mexico
Thank you once again, voters of Connecticut.
As holy Joe slips further down the slippery slope, someone please pass the soap, the oil, the grease and anything else slippery to get this fucking moron off the face of the earth.
Hard Ons For Hypocrisy
Ugh, I fucking hate Joe Lieberman:
Sen. Joe Lieberman, Connecticut independent, yesterday called for the U.S. to confront Iran — possibly with militarily force — after U.S. military officials reported that Iran was training Iraqi Shi’ite fighters...
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